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Silly Burrito posted:How could something so important seem so small 24 hours later? I know, it is a big deal. But Jesus Christ. It means the Dems are in charge of cleaning up today's mess. Suddenly it doesn't seem so small any more, right?
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NYT has him at +0.61% which pushes it outside of recount territory. Yeehaw!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It means the Dems are in charge of cleaning up today's mess. Suddenly it doesn't seem so small any more, right? I hope Merrick is taking a hell of a lot of notes.
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StandardVC10 posted:I'm sure everything will go right back to being poo poo soon enough, but at this moment, it's funny as hell that the Republicans managed to gaslight themselves into losing two Senate seats. Also mad props to Stacey Abrams and her crew ...for the record, I wasn't expecting this soon
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I don't know what you're talking about, you had several hours.
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Honestly it lasted about as long as New Year Hope usually lasts
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StandardVC10 posted:...for the record, I wasn't expecting this soon I thought Warnock had a chance of winning but not Ossoff. I am amazed that this state has turned purple. Though the real test will be for the governor seat in 2022.
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Pick posted:I don't know what you're talking about, you had several hours. Ok that's a lol.
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BrianBoitano posted:Honestly it lasted about as long as New Year Hope usually lasts You're talking like yesterday erased flipping Georgia's senate seats.
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Grape posted:You're talking like yesterday erased flipping Georgia's senate seats. It certainly took a dump in the hallway during the party but ultimately it's a momentary distraction. We'll get that cleaned up and the party's still on.
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This week was like watching the end of Independence Day and Georgia shows up screaming, "Sorry I'm late, MR. PRESIDENT" to defeat fascism, but then it smash cuts to Schindler's List.
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Loeffler concedes to Warnock in Georgia Senate racequote:Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.) has conceded to Raphael Warnock in their Senate race that most networks called Tuesday night for Warnock.
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Has Perdue not conceded yet?
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His campaign put out some statement like "once all the votes are counted we're confident we will win" even though Ossof's margin is now outside of automatic recount territory and Perdue would have to pay for it himself. So we'll probably get something that wastes everybody's time and keeps Ossof from being seated on the 21st.
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What is quite significant to me is, though it was a squeaker, it was not nearly as much of a squeaker as anyone had anticipated. It was quite decisive the night of.
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Pick posted:What is quite significant to me is, though it was a squeaker, it was not nearly as much of a squeaker as anyone had anticipated. It was quite decisive the night of. It's two things: Firstly, there was the last week of the race with Trump and McConnell clashing over COVID relief and Democratic promises for $2000 checks if they won the Senate. That probably convinced a lot of Republican voters to stay home, if not actually vote for the Democrats. Secondly, Georgia has a lot of recent experience counting ballots.  If Trump hadn't made it the issue of the moment by coming out for $2000 relief (because, let's be honest, most congressional Democrats didn't support it before then either) or McConnell had gone along with it, the races probably would have been a lot closer.
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Pakled posted:It's two things: Trump denigrating the electoral process and the state's Republican leadership, most especially the Secretary of State that oversees those elections, absolutely was a factor too.
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Oh, absolutely. To the extent that I can't quite figure out the logic of their approach. Oh well, I'm glad they hosed it up, I wanted the Democrats to get the Senate and they did. A trifecta in 2019 was unthinkable, and it took 2020 for that to materialize… I guess some of 2021 as well!
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The market seems to have baked in 2000$ checks https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1347627160283058177
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As someone who watches the stock market quite a bit, it's usually incorrect to attribute any specific thing happening any specific day to whatever the hell is going on in the market. Essentially, you can think of the stock market as 7000 gerbils, and every gerbil has a number written on it, and then as the gerbils run around, every time that a gerbil hits a particular other gerbil, you calculate random multiplier of the number of the gerbils, divided by the number of gerbils grooming, and that's how much the market moved that day.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Has Perdue not conceded yet? Guess so lol owned https://twitter.com/jessbidgood/status/1347630400869429249
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“We won but then lost” No my man, you failed to win, and then lost
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Would love to understand the thought process behind the 19,000 Warnock/Perdue ticket-splitters. (According to the NYT's latest count, the difference between total votes for both races was only 57, so probably only a few dozen people voted for Warnock and skipped Ossoff vs. Perdue; those remaining ~19k likely actively voted for both Warnock and Perdue) edit: grammar SousaphoneColossus fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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Admittedly, out of 4.5 million people, that's honestly not very many.
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I can pretty much guarantee that whatever the thought process was, knowing it would not prove satisfying.
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Bad Munki posted:I can pretty much guarantee that whatever the thought process was, knowing it would not prove satisfying. "Wait, there's more than one race? Whos this guy? Huh... Perdue... I liked those Perdue chicken nuggets shaped like dinosaurs when I was a kid. Raowrr! ahahaha.... Yeah, this guy." Grayly Squirrel fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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The answer could be as simple as "moderate Republicans who just think Kelly Loeffler is awful." It would not surprise me to learn that was a strong contingent.
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I'm just glad Ossoff was capable of learning and improving after his House run. If he'd kept the same "throw money at consultants forever, do nothing else" strategy he'd have bombed this one just as hard.
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SousaphoneColossus posted:Would love to understand the thought process behind the 19,000 Warnock/Perdue ticket-splitters. I thought there would be more Warnock/Perdue splits tbh. Going in, I thought Warnock would win as no one likes Loffler but Perdue would pass as respectable enough in George
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I thought there would be more Warnock/Perdue splits tbh. Going in, I thought Warnock would win as no one likes Loffler but Perdue would pass as respectable enough in George There probably were a decent amount of those splitters as well. We can only know the net difference.
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Remember that Purdue had actually won election in the state before and Loeffler had only ever held the seat via appointment. It's going to be a higher mental hurdle to ditch someone you've personally voted for in the past vs not.
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I wonder if the threat of the intense dysfunction of a GOP Senate under Biden and the fact Democrats could win at most 50 seats, making Manchin the lynchpin, made any divided government preferers comfortable instead voting for unified government. I noticed Ossoff did 1% better than the Dem nominee for DoT. e; Also haven't yet seen anyone point out the Georgia Senate outcome as an analog for life - the privileged white kid who did worse gets a 6 year term, the cool black guy who did better only gets 2 years. e2; Still don't understand how it is Georgia was even allowed to hold a regular Senate runoff in January, normally those are done in December to ensure the certification is done in time for the new congress. I checked and sure enough, the consequence is David Perdue is no longer a Senator, his term having expired. Kemp doesn't get to make him a Senator for 6.02 years or 6.05 years or some arbitrary number that's not 6. But still, I've only ever heard of contested races like 2008 Minnesota Franken vs Coleman dragging on and resulting in a vacancy, but that was with an election occurring *on* election day, not the plan being to outright hold the election after the Senate term is over and there's a vacancy, like Georgia did. Strikes me as some lazy poo poo I'm surprised the courts went along with, citizens having a right to representation and all. Eregos fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Eregos posted:I wonder if the threat of the intense dysfunction of a GOP Senate under Biden and the fact Democrats could win at most 50 seats, making Manchin the lynchpin, made any divided government preferers comfortable instead voting for unified government. I noticed Ossoff did 1% better than the Dem nominee for DoT. In fairness going into the election the runoff was seen as the easier win and therefore more desirable dem nomination, despite the shorter term.
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I fully believe that Ossof's turn towards 2k, along with exceptional grassroots funding and activism, is responsible for him outstripping Bidens margin and other Dem pols, except for Warnock.wjo had the same idea
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Shageletic posted:I fully believe that Ossof's turn towards 2k, along with exceptional grassroots funding and activism, is responsible for him outstripping Bidens margin and other Dem pols, except for Warnock.wjo had the same idea He deserved to win. He really worked his Ossoff.
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Here's a weird coda: because neither man had held public office before, the tiebreaker for who is the 'senior' senator goes all the way to 'last name alphabetically'. Congrats to the senior senator from Georgia, Jon Ossoff.
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Edward Mass posted:Here's a weird coda: because neither man had held public office before, the tiebreaker for who is the 'senior' senator goes all the way to 'last name alphabetically'. Congrats to the senior senator from Georgia, Jon Ossoff. No, the tiebreaker in this case is the length of term they were elected to. Ossoff won the 6-year term, so he is the senior senator from Georgia.
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