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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...


In 1977, a brilliant dream team of a cast and crew created Exorcist II: The Heretic, the unforgettable sequel to the 1973 horror masterpiece The Exorcist.

Directed by Academy Award-nominee John Boorman

Starring
Academy Award-nominee Linda Blair,
Academy Award-nominee Richard Burton,
Academy Award-winner Louse Flether,
Academy Award-nominee James Earl Jones,
and Academy Award-nominee Max von Sydow

With a score by none other than Academy Award-winner Ennio Morricone

Here is an official space for goons to talk about this unique achievement in motion picture history.

Exorcist II: The Heretic - Official® Teaser [HD]( https://youtu.be/tAhaXrvos4A)
Exorcist II: The Heretic - Trailer (https://youtu.be/G2S2g-lHJyY)





Let's have Richard Burton have the first comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iKpwkNTzno

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Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Tbh it's not that bad, it's just weird as poo poo and the critics and people at the time had a massive knee-jerk reaction to it because of it being the sequel to an absurdly popular film.

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Do you really want to see cicadas after a 17 year dormant state? It will be tasty for those starving mice in Australia.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
More like Exorcist Poo

Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!

I think we can all agree that Repossessed is the real sequel

Brother Tadger fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Apr 1, 2021

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

I AM PAZUZU

a starchy tuber
Sep 9, 2002

hi yes I'm very normal
I've heard part 3 is really good. Is that true?

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Vintage publicity short from 1977 (lots of "ESP and demonic possession is real" nonsense): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQFibfVOfA

Linda Blair talking Exorcist II in 2018 (gets candid)! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMZPTrCriJA

SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Apr 1, 2021

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
I suppose this is obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8dKnFU5LUE

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

one time I was walkin thru georgetown and my friend pointed and said "the exorcist steps are back there" and I said "cool" and he said "you wanna go see?" and I said "nah"
well thanks for reading my story make sure to like and smash that subscribe button if you haven't already

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

Listen to reason, man. Why make your job difficult?

Nefarious 2.0 posted:

one time I was walkin thru georgetown and my friend pointed and said "the exorcist steps are back there" and I said "cool" and he said "you wanna go see?" and I said "nah"
well thanks for reading my story make sure to like and smash that subscribe button if you haven't already

cani get ur autograph?

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

promising carl posted:

I've heard part 3 is really good. Is that true?

It's extremely good

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

promising carl posted:

I've heard part 3 is really good. Is that true?

It's pretty good as long as you don't mind it being more of a spinoff than a straight sequel. The studio demanded they add an exorcism to the end because otherwise it wasn't Exorcist-y enough.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

promising carl posted:

I've heard part 3 is really good. Is that true?

It has one of the very best jump scares in the history of film, at least.

Nice Guy Patron
Jun 29, 2015

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Tbh it's not that bad, it's just weird as poo poo and the critics and people at the time had a massive knee-jerk reaction to it because of it being the sequel to an absurdly popular film.

I'm having a knee-JERK reaction to your AV.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Cornwind Evil posted:

It has one of the very best jump scares in the history of film, at least.

As well as a great story about hating a fish. I could listen to George C. Scott read a phonebook and would be entertained.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
The porn parody, Sexorcist,

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

Colonel Cancer posted:

The porn parody, Sexorcist,

tee hee your naughty

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013
Its not amazing and pretty boring. But it does have some good scenes in it here and there.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

It's pretty good as long as you don't mind it being more of a spinoff than a straight sequel. The studio demanded they add an exorcism to the end because otherwise it wasn't Exorcist-y enough.

Agreed on the latter part. It doesn't fit with the tone of most of the movie, which is a very low-key detective thriller with paranormal elements. If Promising Carl ends up watching it, I suggest they go check out the (filmed) original ending. It was extremely Coen-esque and it might be regarded as a classic if they'd gone with it.

Exorcist III is honestly a really, really good movie. I really love Blatty's writing style and it translates great to screenplay.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Holy cow I didn't realize the latest blu-ray has the shorter version that Boorman made after the premiere. I've always been curious about it (also I think I might have seen the end of it on TV a long, long time ago, I remember it looking scarier). Too bad I don't have a blu-ray player.

From IMDB:
    The infamous cut version has quite a few changes from the now widely available "Original Theatrical Version." These changes are:
  • Opening credits run over a different, faster piece of music using the same drum part as in Father Lamont's "stoning" scene. Music is also changed in some later scenes.
  • An introduction with narration by Lamont and stills from both movies is shown; it concludes with a shot of Lamont climbing the steps to the chapel in the opening scene.
  • In the opening scene, the moment where Lamont looks at Father Merrin's picture and prays is cut.
    -The first "tap-dancing" scene with Linda Blair is also gone. -Introductory scenes with Father Lamont now play all at once before the story moves to the clinic, instead of alternating with clinic scenes. Most of his early conversation with the cardinal is gone.
  • In the hypnosis scene, Lamont says "I know where she is; help me to find her" in reference to the palpitating Dr. Tuskin. In this version he says only "help me to find her."
  • When describing the hypnosis session, Lamont's line of "horrible...and fascinating" is shortened to "horrible." The rest of his conversation with Dr. Tuskin is snipped out.
  • There are more demonic "we're going flying" voiceovers during Regan's dream.
    A few lines are cut in the scene with Regan and the autistic girl.
    Father Lamont's failed meeting with the cardinal is an alternate, more heated version. Now Lamont accuses the cardinal of secretly believing Lamont's stories of young people with miraculous healing powers, but thinking the world is "incurably sick" and being too cynical to want to bother investigating.
  • The scene showing a communion ritual at the mountaintop church is much shorter. Lamont's subsequent conversation about finding the body in the rocks below has a few cuts as well.
  • Many small snippets are removed from the last twenty minutes or so of the movie, such as Sharon muttering "stupid bitch," Lamont's growled lines at the train conductor and bus driver, and Sharon's telling the cab driver that "someone is dying." Most memorably, when Dr. Tuskin and Sharon drive past the bloody car crash, we no longer see them stop to help the victims (!).
  • Climactic car crash now includes a gory shot showing the fate of the cab driver.
  • After Lamont collapses in Regan's house, Regan's line "let me reach you" is dubbed out.
  • When Regan enters her old bedroom, we're now shown inserts of Linda Blair in "possession" makeup; the shots are recycled from the first movie and its outtakes.
  • The scene where "evil Regan" and Father Lamont have a demonic necking session has been removed; so has the moment when Dr. Tuskin calls "help!" and runs up and down the street.
  • The infamous ending has Father Lamont dying instead of living, which is done simply by removing almost everything after he fights with "evil Regan." The movie now ends only with Regan making the locusts disappear, then sharing a couple of wordless looks with Dr. Tuskin.
  • When the end credits change to a black background, the slow melodic music now changes to an uptempo rock piece.

Lord Decimus Barnacle
Jun 25, 2005


Hell Gem

promising carl posted:

I've heard part 3 is really good. Is that true?

I really like that one. Yeah it’s good

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
The Exorcist was scary, to me, an atheist. Exorcist II wasn’t. Exorcist II wasn’t scary to my atheist parents either. Exorcist II was not scary. It was interesting and not at all bad, but it wasn’t scary. Pazuzu ain’t scary man, I’m like 75% sure he’s in pathfinder or D&D, so automatically not scary.

Halloween Liker
Oct 31, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
I'm so sorry you were murdered, Thomas, I miss you.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Halloween Liker posted:

I'm so sorry you were murdered, Thomas, I miss you.

Lol

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




This movie sucks.

promising carl posted:

I've heard part 3 is really good. Is that true?

It's really good until the studio-imposed "epic showdown" ending that doesn't make much sense. Still worth watching though, some legit scares and creepy imagery that sticks in your head.

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Best Scrooged interpretation ever by both actors.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Reading about the blu-ray and I get to:

Thankfully, Scream Factory opted to put both cuts of the film in their new release, offering a Boorman commentary on the longer one (along with a film historian on a second track) and a fun track from Mike White of Something Awful on the shorter version.
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/10/09/collins-crypt-the-exorcist-ii-is-memorable-but-is-it-good

...who's Mike White? Mike, are you here?

gleebster
Dec 16, 2006

Only a howler
Pillbug
They cut the tap dancing? The tap dancing was the whole story!

Dr. Gojo Shioji
Apr 22, 2004

Rod Hoofhearted posted:

It's really good until the studio-imposed "epic showdown" ending that doesn't make much sense. Still worth watching though, some legit scares and creepy imagery that sticks in your head.

There's a director's cut of sorts, but a lot of the footage was lost so they spliced in dailies and, in some cases, title cards. The result is a bit of a rough cut, but it's fascinating nonetheless.

Ventral EggSac
Dec 3, 2019


Is that Amy Schumer

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side
What make the first film work so well, is powerful and skilled use of editing.

It's done in a very stream-of-consciousness kind of way, and gives the impression that a LOT more time is passing than actually is.

There's suggestive and subliminal stuff, flashes, the dream scene where Karras screams as his mother descends the subway stairs.

It all creates disorientation and a real sense of dread for the viewer, which reflects the demon's will.

Just a small example, if you ask a viewer who's just seen the movie how Father Karras reacted when he found out his mother died, most people will distinctly remember a scene where he has a reaction. But there is no such scene in the film.

This has never been replicated in any of the sequels, or the TV show.

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner

Cornwind Evil posted:

It has one of the very best jump scares in the history of film, at least.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

The Anal Cyst

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
The Exorcist III was legitimately good. Brad Dourif is a loving national treasure.

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

It's pretty good as long as you don't mind it being more of a spinoff than a straight sequel. The studio demanded they add an exorcism to the end because otherwise it wasn't Exorcist-y enough.

Yeah they had that reshoot of the ending, or they just shoehorned that in super quickly. You can tell because it makes no sense at all lol.

Cornwind Evil posted:

It has one of the very best jump scares in the history of film, at least.

Someone has that as their av and it's great.

Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Apr 2, 2021

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

That was good. I've never seen that before.

Here's my favorite. The only complete intro I could find was horrible quality. :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZrYBsDenEo

edit: The Exorcist is my favorite horror movie ever

Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Apr 2, 2021

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!


Pazuzu is a “real” god, and he represents the southerly wind (associated w drought/famine), so this is pretty on point, tbh

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu

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