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The Oldest Man posted:name an award winning sci fi author who isn't a crypto sex pest octavia butler unless parable of the sower is too close to a documentary to count as scifi
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The Oldest Man posted:name an award winning sci fi author who isn't a crypto sex pest l ron hubbard
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Apr 4, 2024 19:54
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oh wait he was in the JPL satanic sex cult
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the goon is a large mistress
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The Oldest Man posted:Out of that list, David Brin, Larry Niven, and Kim Stanley Robinson at least all had extremely "this is my kink" type sex poo poo in their books yeah lol like half of the original ringworld is human/alien sex complete with lore and definitions
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All I remember about Heinlein is that scene in starship troopers where the main character busts in on like an alien PTA meeting and drills the whole room with grenades after describing them in an obliquely racist way (gibbering blues or some poo poo)Al! posted:oh wait he was in the JPL satanic sex cult Wasn't he also alleged to be keeping a bunch of young boys on his sex yacht until he died Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 20:25 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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Apr 4, 2024 19:58
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Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:yeah lol like half of the original ringworld is human/alien sex complete with lore and definitions my favorite part of ringworld is the scene where he, immediately after introducing the mind control orgasm beam in the previous scene, says women have mind control beams in their vaginas but theyre too lady-brained to use them to take over definitely not a crypto sex pest this guy also quote:In 2007, Niven, in conjunction with a think tank of science fiction writers known as SIGMA, founded and led by Arlan Andrews, began advising the U.S. Department of Homeland Security as to future trends affecting terror policy and other topics.[18] Among those topics was reducing costs for hospitals to which Niven offered the solution to spread rumors in Latino communities that organs were being harvested illegally in hospitals.[19] 
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Apr 4, 2024 20:15
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I was going to say "ellison wasn't a sex pest he was just a huge rear end in a top hat" but i forgot there was some stuff that came out recently about him being awful to women
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Jubal E. Harshaw, LL.B., M.D., Sc.D., bon vivant, gourmet, sybarite, popular author extraordinary, neo-pessimist philosopher, devout agnostic, professional clown, amateur subversive, and parasite by choice
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The Oldest Man posted:my favorite part of ringworld is the scene where he, immediately after introducing the mind control orgasm beam in the previous scene, says women have mind control beams in their vaginas but theyre too lady-brained to use them to take over dude is a nasty dolt and his "hard" sf is all magic bullshit. some fans worked out the actual math for the ringworld and trolled him at a con with it once.
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Apr 4, 2024 20:24
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Al! posted:oh wait he was in the JPL satanic sex cult no he infiltrated it to reveal their secret machinations to naval intelligence [This is what Scientologists actually believe]
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The Oldest Man posted:
What did he do? He just died a couple weeks ago.
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Wakko posted:octavia butler unless parable of the sower is too close to a documentary to count as scifi she got a lot of kink poo poo about human alien sex in her stories
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There was that time that David Brin was being such an insufferable sexist douchebag to Jo Walton at a con room party that she threw her coke on him:https://ansible.uk/cc/cc138.html to posted:'Well, OK. I did pour coke on David Brin's head at the Tor party. And he deserved it. And it was impulsive and intemperate, and I'm intending to apologise for being impulsive and intemperate, just in case he thinks that I did it because we have a substantive argument about feudalism, Tolkien, the Enlightenment and Romanticism. In fact, I did it because he was being so smugly condescending and patronising and sexist that I couldn't stand it for another moment. I do disagree with him about those things, and I think he's wrong about them in really irritating ways, but I'd have been quite happy to either let it go – we'd disagreed about them at length on a panel earlier in the day – or argue about it in good faith. I'll argue about things with anyone any time. It was his tone that caused me to completely lose it.
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The Oldest Man posted:Out of that list, David Brin, Larry Niven, and Kim Stanley Robinson at least all had extremely "this is my kink" type sex poo poo in their books what was ksr? he strikes me as a very asexual
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Al! posted:l ron hubbard thats right he was an out in the open sex pest
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I haven't heard anything about Bradbury personally but he acted like he didn't understand why anyone would have a problem with harassing and groping women; Bob Packwood thanked Bradbury for supporting him during his difficulties. On the other hand, Lovecraft and Robert Howard were just creeped out by sex. I haven't heard any sex stuff about John W Campbell but he was a huge racist who also opposed government regulations and supported crank science and quackery (he was an early follower of Dianetics). When writer Jeannette Ng won the Campbell Award for Best New Writer, she spent her acceptance speech blasting Campbell and calling him "a loving fascist." The award was renamed and the separate Campbell Memorial Award was discontinued completely. (Unfortunately Ng supported the Hong Kong protests so you are required to hate her.) Maximo Roboto posted:Walter M. Miller. Jr. (Catholicism) I remember a sequence in A Canticle for Leibowitz where a priest tries to convince a woman who's dying of radiation poisoning that's it's better to die slowly and painfully than to commit suicide. You get one guess how Miller died.
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saint leinowitz and the wild horse woman is a deeply strange book but i like it. very different from canticle though.
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Wakko posted:octavia butler unless parable of the sower is too close to a documentary to count as scifi I could feel the sexual energies bubbling in her stories
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Xaris posted:what was ksr? he strikes me as a very asexual Never read Red Mars and particularly the sequels?
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genericnick posted:Never read Red Mars and particularly the sequels?
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norman spinrad seems cool
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Did John Norman of Gor ever do anything irl to anyone? All the threads I've see say he was a nebbish English professor(?) who added the porn and bondage because the books sold immensely more when he did so, so followed the money. These days he'd just be one of 1000's of authors on a porn blog site or paetron with less funders than Sinfest. Same question for Heinlein. And we did get the first Starship Troopers movie that made fun of the books politics. To add to the list of Authors who DID do some awful things- David Eddings and Marion Zimmer Bradley . Comstar has issued a correction as of 06:04 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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Lemniscate Blue posted:There was that time that David Brin was being such an insufferable sexist douchebag to Jo Walton at a con room party that she threw her coke on him: Buy her an account
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lol speaking of david eddings i was recently thinking about what if they made the belgariad into a tv show, imagining the pitch like "okay so all of the characters are white, except for the bad guys who are inherently, racially evil and also mongolian/asian"
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I finally read through Starship Troopers on a flight after first starting it back in... Junior High? and mostly was surprised that the bugs have guns, what the heck Also seems fairly drat fascist (shocker) and it's like 40% extended boot camp hagiography and 40% talking about made up military theory ad nauseum so it's not like there is a ton of action either
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Heinlein does claim that women are flat out genetically superior pilots as compared to men so I guess that balances things out a bit in triangulation land
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Wakko posted:octavia butler unless parable of the sower is too close to a documentary to count as scifi Haven't read Xenogenesis? That book is nothing but a deconstruction of the f'd up sexual politics forced on enslaved/colonize peoples. Just hidden inside an alien encounter story.
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Vox Nihili posted:Heinlein does claim that women are flat out genetically superior pilots as compared to men so I guess that balances things out a bit in triangulation land Ilsa she wolf of the spacestafel is my political ideology too
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Weka posted:Ilsa she wolf of the spacestafel is my political ideology too yass kw88n
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Vox Nihili posted:I finally read through Starship Troopers on a flight after first starting it back in... Junior High? and mostly was surprised that the bugs have guns, what the heck were you surprised when johnny rico busts into a third alien species's pta meeting and firebombs it
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Vox Nihili posted:I finally read through Starship Troopers on a flight after first starting it back in... Junior High? and mostly was surprised that the bugs have guns, what the heck They have guns in Warhammer so this checks out
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The Oldest Man posted:were you surprised when johnny rico busts into a third alien species's pta meeting and firebombs it no, it's part of the opening sequence I read as a kid which btw suggests a lot more action than the book actually contains, probably why I didn't get through it back then. badass speculative fiction shoot 'em up dumps you right off into 100 pages of meandering boot camp ideology sludge
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