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leica posted:Tockicos are poo poo. This is from working on tons of Miatas, I've never seen a blown KYB, but almost every Miata I worked on with Tockicos they were either leaking and/or completely blown and we'd replace them with KYB's. that being said, I'd go with Konis if you can afford it they are a much better damper. If you want to go with anecdotal evidence, I blew two rear AGXs in under 1000 miles. However, I was reimbursed for their replacement and haven't had any issues with the replacement dampers so far. Adjuster placement is much better on the AGXs - located at the bottom of the damper as opposed to the top. On the miata, this means to adjust Illuminas, you'll need to remove the metal shield that blocks off the fuel filler from the trunk. Then again, if you talk to FM, they prefer the Illuminas with their springs (but sell them with AGXs, the bastards). Basically, get whatever the hell you feel like, but you'll find anecdotal evidence that all dampers suck.
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Phone posted:You can go the Savington route and get Koni RACE shocks. Not if you'd like to keep the feeling in your cheeks for more than 10 minutes everytime you drive.
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laymil posted:Basically, get whatever the hell you feel like, but you'll find anecdotal evidence that all dampers suck. What other kind of evidence is there if you have no experience with them? I'm just stating what I saw working on Miatas for about two years in a Miata specific shop. With my own two eyes, and the owner of the shop that refused to sell Tockico because of his experiences with them making GBS threads the bed years prior to me working there. For those on a budget we installed KYB AGX's and never had a problem with them. For those that could afford it, we recommended Konis. And I don't think I ever heard anything bad about Konis. I personally had AGX's on my two Miatas and never had issues. So there you go, more anecdotal evidence.
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laymil posted:Then again, if you talk to FM, they prefer the Illuminas with their springs (but sell them with AGXs, the bastards). http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept=12 Schwack posted:Haha, Im sure they're great but they are probably overkill for someone like me. That and they would basically cost as much as my whole little package I've drawn up here. I've got Illuminas and FM sways waiting to go in my car right now. I came to the same "Illumina > KYB" conclusion that you did. FM stopped selling KYB because they believe the damping profile of the Illumina is superior.
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butt terrarium posted:Not if you'd like to keep the feeling in your cheeks for more than 10 minutes everytime you drive. You're just saying that because you don't want your butt to get hurt. Not to mention that your name is butt terrarium.
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Ziploc posted:http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept=12 Well, when I bought my set, they packaged them with KYBs. I was pissed when I called to do the warranty replacement on them and they said "oh we like them with illuminas much better". As for them believing the damping profile of the Illumina is superior, all their testing for their springs was done seat of the pants. They don't have shock dynos for them and didn't care about it when I asked. Their new setup seems to be quite a bit more researched (AFCO).
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laymil posted:Well, when I bought my set, they packaged them with KYBs. I was pissed when I called to do the warranty replacement on them and they said "oh we like them with illuminas much better". FCM has a shock dyno and he told me the same thing. That he likes the damping of the Illuminas better than the KYB.
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Schwack posted:Also, does anybody have any comments on the quality of the bushings I mentioned? They're definitely worth getting considering their price and the next comparable bushing's price.
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My miata and I slid on some black ice in January. While the rest of the roads were clear, this patch was shadowed by trees and hadn't melted yet. The front end hit a telephone pole, pivoted the car and the back end hit the curb. Please have mercy - I know I should have been more careful, and I miss my car dearly. Insurance totaled it, but I bought it back. We haven't put it up on jacks yet and taken the wheels off to get a really good look at it, but at minimum the front DS tire rod and a back DS control arm need replacing. Now that it is finally getting warmer, it's time to really start moving on it. I have been feeling out the wreckage yards, but it seems absolutely no one has wrecked miatas in Ocean County, NJ - or the tri-state area, for that matter. Am I going to have to resign myself to the salvage areas & classifieds of flyingmiata.com, planetmiata.com and miataturbo.com and pay some pricey shipping? Can someone who has dealt with one of these sites tell me how bad or not bad the total cost ended up being? Does anyone have any suggestions other than the listed options? edit: Car is a '93. lionskull fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Apr 1, 2008 |
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Ziploc posted:FCM has a shock dyno and he told me the same thing. That he likes the damping of the Illuminas better than the KYB. Interesting. Note that I'm not advocating either of the dampers; I'm just pointing out that FlyinMiata isn't always the best source of information.
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Schwack posted:Suspension bits edit: Sweet jesus, someone actually bought the -27et Racer-x and is mounting them on their NA over at clubroadster.net  
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lionskull posted:We haven't put it up on jacks yet and taken the wheels off to get a really good look at it, but at minimum the front DS tire rod and a back DS control arm need replacing If you want, I've got both rear hubs/LCAs you can have for free. I think I have an spare (boot might be busted) outer tie rod end as well. You'll have to cut through the bolt that holds the hubs/LCAs together and get it out of there, but you're welcome to it. I'm in South Plainfield. If you need or want wheels, you can have a set of those too. If that doesn't work for you, I've gotten my junkyard parts from bob@fixrim.com/fixrim@aol.com (same guy). He has the cheapest prices I've found by far.
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laymil posted:Free parts, junkyard reference. This sounds fantastic. I've sent you a PM.
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destructo posted:Do you already have Fatcat Motorsports bumpstops? Those FM springs will drop your car about 1/1.5 inches right? The replacement bumpstops will help you retain your original suspension travel and they're fairly cheap. D'oh. I completely forgot to mention that I was also planning on ordering a set of the FCM bumpstops and shock mounts.
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Apr 1, 2008 19:48
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destructo posted:edit: I saw that yesterday, it makes my brain hurt.
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Phone posted:You're just saying that because you don't want your butt to get hurt. Not to mention that your name is butt terrarium. I'm going to call you a Butthead when I call you on the phone
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destructo posted:edit: Link! EDIT: Hahah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjlHH_JCJE Ziploc fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Apr 1, 2008 |
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Apr 1, 2008 20:44
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Ziploc posted:Link! http://tinyurl.com/26v45f I don't know why they must be such ricers.
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re: FM vs. ES bushings http://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18173 mind you - that is the owner of 949 racing commenting, but I'd say his point is probably true. I've got illumina's on Racing Beat springs - and I'm starting to think that I'm dumb for having linear springs instead of variable on my daily driver. They can be real kidney punchers on some potholes.  I did lots of comparison of KYB vs Tockiko on miata.net, and it really seemed half and half - with most everyone complaining about the HP's than the illuminas.
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How likely will a 1997 Miata need new bushings? When do you change them?
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Ziploc posted:How likely will a 1997 Miata need new bushings? When do you change them? It's never "needed", doing them just makes the car handle better. With the age of NA cars i can pretty much guarantee they could almost all use new bushings unless it is extremely low mileage. The stock rubber bushings dry out, crack and loose their stiffness allowing them to flex more. Its up to each person whether poly bushings are worth it or not. They make the ride noticeably harsher but a set of factory bushings will run over $500 bucks. If you don't mind the extra NVH do them when you can afford it/are doing other suspension stuff. I haven't gone to get an alignment yet since i put my bushings in since I'm replacing my tie rods this weekend and still need to tweak the ride height a bit more and didn't want to waste money getting multiple alignments.
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butt terrarium posted:Not if you'd like to keep the feeling in your cheeks for more than 10 minutes everytime you drive. I put like a thousand miles on my car in the last 2 weeks. The ride quality is way, way better than you think it is.
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I've loved my 2000 Miata in Evo Orange for the two and a half years that I've owned it but it's time to move on. If anyone in the phoenix area is interested then call me at 623-670-2504.
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How much do you guys think sounds right for an 02 with 15.5K miles and a hardtop? Edmunds TMV lists about $13,500 from a dealer, but that seems low to me. Most regular miatas in my area are going for about 13.5-14K with similar mileage.
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Illumina vs AGX debate... They both suck, from my experience the AGX suck less and are cheaper. Konis are so much better that no one should buy anything else.\ ClubRoadster isnt all ricers (me)! And my car is Finally back to 100% and ready for the track (except my tires are almost gone again  )
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Dicker posted:They both suck, from my experience the AGX suck less and are cheaper. Please tell us about your experience with both shocks.
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Savin 'dis from the archives to ask a random Miata question. My NA has a ratty exhaust with leaks after the header. I don't know where they are exactly yet, but I've been told that I apparently need to replace quite a bit of it. I plan on doing this on a bit of a budget. I'm not looking for power gains but if the price is right I won't say no to them either. I loved the stock sound. Not too loud, no rasp, sounded like a boat when burbling around and decently throaty when opening it up. Didn't draw any unwanted attention either. However now with the holes it just constantly sounds like a wet fart. And with the roof coming off since summer is fast approaching thats not going to fly. So what are my options? Any recommendations?
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Ziploc posted:I plan on doing this on a bit of a budget. I'm not looking for power gains but if the price is right I won't say no to them either. I loved the stock sound. Not too loud, no rasp, sounded like a boat when burbling around and decently throaty when opening it up. Didn't draw any unwanted attention either. However now with the holes it just constantly sounds like a wet fart. And with the roof coming off since summer is fast approaching thats not going to fly. Find someone upgrading to a new exhaust and get their old one if it's in good condition. I've thrown out two stock exhausts, otherwise you could have my old one.
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miatas make good snowplows This picture was taken this morning w/ my phone. The pile of snow actually looked quite a bit larger in person... the entire front opening was full of snow. When I was driving some of the snow was actually coming up over the hood and hitting the windshield! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Apr 8, 2008 |
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FireTora posted:They make the ride noticeably harsher but a set of factory bushings will run over $500 bucks. If I put in new shocks when replacing the bushings, will I still feel the harshness? Ride is pretty harsh already due to blown stock shocks
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Amir posted:If I put in new shocks when replacing the bushings, will I still feel the harshness? Ride is pretty harsh already due to blown stock shocks The bushings made bumps more defined with my setup. I'm not sure how it would turn out in your case. Over all it would ride much better than now, I do not know how it would compare in harshness to what you currently have.
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FireTora posted:The bushings made bumps more defined with my setup. I'm not sure how it would turn out in your case. Over all it would ride much better than now, I do not know how it would compare in harshness to what you currently have. You had relatively new working shocks prior to doing the bushings, right?
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Amir posted:You had relatively new working shocks prior to doing the bushings, right? I put new Koni Sports with ground controls and FCM bump stops and mounts on in September. Those made a huge change over the stock suspension as well.
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Hay buddies! Can I play in this thread? I just bought my 2003 Special Edition! It's my second car, but my main commuter. My Audi A4 Quattro is daily driven by my wife. Here's a pic!  It's an 03 special edition with 26k miles. Everything is bone stock. I was thinking of a fashion rollbar, and at some point soon I'm going to shove my empeg player in there. yay.
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2D posted:Great looking car, congratulations. On the subject of rollbars, I'm thinking about getting one for my NC. What brand is best?
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I don't think that Harddog has an NC rollbar (yet). You might be SOL for a little while.
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I'm pretty sure Goodwin Racing makes a bar for the NC.
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2D posted:Hay buddies! Can I play in this thread? I just bought my 2003 Special Edition! Please don't get a style bar, they're nicknamed mousetraps for a reason. Otherwise great looking car, very shiny. Even though my miata is orange it's continuously covered in a thick layer of yellow pollen dust. I just washed it today and mere minutes after I finished it was completely disgusting again. AkrisD fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 10, 2008 |
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Nice color 2D, I just picked this up (02 with 15.6K miles):  Edit: I need a better camera
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hell yes. whats the color code on that one? I really want a hardtop!!
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