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Booga
Aug 20, 2007

Sardonik posted:

Are the tears of the enemy team not twice as delicious? There are plenty of greifey things you can do that help your team in many games, but still make the enemy team very angry. Spawn camping in TF2 for example.

You're not a very good griefer if the moment someone calls you out on it you stop and go quiet as a mouse.

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Rudiger
May 2, 2007

by Fistgrrl
So, I got banned from second life for a day...anyone else have that happen to them?

FAG ON THE FORUMS
Mar 19, 2003

by Fragmaster

Rudiger posted:

So, I got banned from second life for a day...anyone else have that happen to them?

Were you walking around as a naked guy in a non-mature sim? It's kind of important to follow the rules if you don't want to get banned.

Sometimes they ban people just for the hell of it, it seems, but at least you can challenge those ones.

Rudiger
May 2, 2007

by Fistgrrl

FAG ON THE FORUMS posted:

Were you walking around as a naked guy in a non-mature sim? It's kind of important to follow the rules if you don't want to get banned.

Sometimes they ban people just for the hell of it, it seems, but at least you can challenge those ones.

Yep, naked guy. I was just popping around to anywhere that had a few people running around, I guess that guy was telling the truth about his area being PG

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
I haven't seen much about griefing in EVE Online which is surprising since it's one of the most grief friendly games, so I think I'll contribute with that:

In EVE Online griefing is usually done using game mechanics exactly as intended as it's very much a part of the game, but being part of the game doesn't make it any less satisfying when it let's you grief oh-so-much.

Preface if you haven't played EVE:

Wandering around back-end solar systems looking for poo poo to shoot at I ran into this guy in a very small system who liked to mine minerals and ice for a POS (player owned station, SPACE STATION) which he kept in system. It's pretty unusual to see a lone person making a living in lawless space where any huge alliance can come and crush you, but this guy was in a tiny backend system with nothing of interest which was very close to secure NPC controlled safe space. This noble gentlemen hated 'pirates' which is anyone that kills a non-hostile stranger for loot or fun, in lawless space people will kill you without blinking if you aren't friendly so I guess everyone in lawless space is a 'pirate' though they might not consider themselves one.



The first time I ran into him I was probably in a cheap T1 frigate, probably didn't kill anything, and definitely popped the can he was storing the ice he was mining destroying at least a solid hour of work between his 4 alts. But I checked his profile and found the most hilarious and rage-inducing biography where he explained at length how 'pirates' were the scum of the galaxy and were nothing but real-life griefers with no life and social problems that represented the corruption of the real world with only their desire to destroy while noble him strived to create... basically the faggiest, most :rolleyes: profile you can imagine.

I was so amused by how much rage this guy had for people out to destroy that I made a habit of coming by in my cheap-rear end ship and blowing up his can full of ice/minerals on a daily basis. One day he set up a huge ambush, fitting out mining ships to tackle me and take me down with sentry drones from a mining dominix which he placed very far away as not to scare me off. It was a very good plan that probably required hours of waiting on his part, but he certainly did kill my cheap-rear end ship.

The following day I was leading a gang around and thought I'd stop by his little system since our intended targets had vanished, I went in alone and found where he was mining that day then had everyone else jump in and kill him and his mining alts all at once. After that the people in my gang were so amused at the rant in this guys profile that it made it's rounds in Goonfleet and he became a minor celebrity among us.

Not long after that Goonfleet acquired its very first dreadnaught and when FNLN wanted to test his new baby out on something, the POS owned by that crazy dude in the backend system came to mind. Complete with an escort of eager onlookers wanting to see a dreadnaught in action, his POS was smote by a huge fleet. Before he quit he sent me an interesting evemail telling me how I'd never amount to anything in EVE or in life because all I could do was destroy other people's work.

In the end, a lot of EVE Online is about making the game hell for other people until they quit. Also if someone could repost that dudes bio for me that'd be great.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Love alot of these stories. Some of the UO ones are really great.

To contribute, nothing as great as the UO stories but one day my friend and I decided to have some real fun in Halo 3. Now as I'm sure you all know, Halo 3's online crowd is...well its retarded as all hell, so they are very easy to have some fun with.

The games started out with a training area map, complete with pop out brutes and so on. Me and a friend spent the entire round shooting them. Not really greifing anyone you may think. Until we managed to get almost everyone on both teams shooting the equivelent of little cardboard cut out aliens. The people who didnt join in were running around screaming over Voice chat about how everyone sucks rear end and we were all called a large collection of racial and sexual names.

That game was just a warm up, We then teamed up with a few guys from that map, went to the next battle which was spent preaching loudly. From here we were not allowed to fire a shot, as that would anger god. You would be suprised how pissed both teams get when 4 guys are getting more kills using melee than they are.

After recuriting more and more people we managed to have an entire team of pacifist preachers, spending the entire game running up, crouching and yelling bible passages before meleeing the poor 13 year old in the face and finding a mancannon to "assend to the great beyond".

I also played EvE online awhile back, No real stories, just the standard scam, steal, laughing stuff.

MrDutch
Jul 9, 2008

Yes they are shoes made of wood. Nothing weird about it, please stop taking my picture. I am NOT a tourist attraction!
Got myself a horse in second life and wandered into some dudes home, and placed the horse next to his dining table, he left before i could make screenshots, so no action shots :-(

Here i set up the horse infront of his dinner table:

NSFW version: https://wi.somethingawful.com/06/06b56893f3b37ca405ffe31cf6edcb9d29b78d91.jpg

A close up of me sucking the horse off:

NSFW version: https://wi.somethingawful.com/32/32dd383e37440bee626e56114dcdb0b7da911a45.jpg

And a final shot from outside the window:


Oh and the horse also comes with a cum simulator :-(

People get pretty upset if you show up and start blowing a horse in there livingroom, who knew?

1965917
Oct 4, 2005

Rudiger posted:

Yep, naked guy. I was just popping around to anywhere that had a few people running around, I guess that guy was telling the truth about his area being PG

Try not to piss off the big land owners since they prop up the sl economy and therefore call the shots. I always thought it weird that when given a chance to make a brand new world were you can do ANYTHING we simply recreate the one we have complete with the same pecking order.

FAG ON THE FORUMS
Mar 19, 2003

by Fragmaster

1965917 posted:

Try not to piss off the big land owners since they prop up the sl economy and therefore call the shots. I always thought it weird that when given a chance to make a brand new world were you can do ANYTHING we simply recreate the one we have complete with the same pecking order.

I don't think a bunch of overweight, middle-aged, unmarried women run things in the real world, though.

Rudiger
May 2, 2007

by Fistgrrl

1965917 posted:

Try not to piss off the big land owners since they prop up the sl economy and therefore call the shots. I always thought it weird that when given a chance to make a brand new world were you can do ANYTHING we simply recreate the one we have complete with the same pecking order.

Fair enough. Still worth it though, especially after once someone banned me from their property I was still close enough to talk to them, and informed them of that fact. I had "NOOB" spammed into my chat thousands of times before I just teleported off.

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

dolvlo posted:

Spawn camping in TF2 is not griefing in any of its definitions. It's the best loving way to win when half your team is retarded on goldrush.

Well I suppose that's true enough, but some people definitely consider it greifing, and others just think it's a dick move.

Auriga posted:

You're not a very good griefer if the moment someone calls you out on it you stop and go quiet as a mouse.

Pardon?

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
I've never done any large-scale griefing, but I had a little bit of fun recently on TF2 pubbies having a friend go crabwalk spy while I work as her bodyguard, micspamming the Pink Panther theme and killing anyone who comes near. Crabwalking spies can't navigate very well and I let her call the shots, so we'd end up miles from the front with our teammates shouting angrily about how useless we were.

The spy crab is an endangered species! I'm from the World Wildlife Foundation and I am protecting this endangered species! It is not your place to tell this beautiful wild animal how to conform to your human behaviour!

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

InediblePenguin posted:

I've never done any large-scale griefing, but I had a little bit of fun recently on TF2 pubbies having a friend go crabwalk spy while I work as her bodyguard, micspamming the Pink Panther theme and killing anyone who comes near. Crabwalking spies can't navigate very well and I let her call the shots, so we'd end up miles from the front with our teammates shouting angrily about how useless we were.

The spy crab is an endangered species! I'm from the World Wildlife Foundation and I am protecting this endangered species! It is not your place to tell this beautiful wild animal how to conform to your human behaviour!

:downsbravo:

Meil
Feb 3, 2008
Neat!
Almost all of my stories take place in an old Half-Life mod called Natural Selection. The game was aliens vs. marines, but with a RTS twist added in. Marines had a commander who built structures for the whole team. Aliens had builder units called gorges that built with no one person guiding them all.

The Room
On this one map there was a large room that had only two vents connected to it. The vents were impossible for marines to access without jetpacks that let them fly around. Aliens on the other hand would be able to get there right away as their basic unit(a skulk) could stick to walls. Generally we would let the game go on for a while so we could tech up to get jetpacks and grenades. Once we had the amount of resources necessary I dropped a few jetpacks and had my friends fly through the vents into the room and they immediately started to build another base in there. I would then sell everything at our old base and suicide myself so that I would spawn in our new impenetrable fortress. Grenade spam was the most hated thing in this game as there just was no real good way for aliens to counter it, so of course for the rest of the game we would just sit there in our little fortress spamming grenades into the two tiny vent entrances. All the rest of the people on the marine team were brought along for the ride, but I never dropped them anything so they were stuck with the basic gun. The amount of rage this would generate was great as the game was brought to a stalemate. We would do this for hours, and there was just nothing they could do short of kicking us. I wish I still had the screen shots, but this was years and two computers ago.

Peace at Last
One way to grief people was to hop along as a basic marine or a gorge and spam over mic that such and such an area was for peaceful individuals only. The community was pretty small and I had quite a few people there that I was friends with so about half the players playing the game would just walk over and we would start to just screw around and have a good time hopping around on each others back making a giant tower of people/creatures. Of course all the people who had no clue was going on would occasionally wander in and start to shoot us. Everyone in the “peace zone” would then turn on them and gently caress their poo poo up. One time though it took on a life of its own and we ended up making our own third faction and we would just wander around the map and trap people with units from their own team(blocking was way too easy and FF was always off) until they pledged to join us. If they refused, they died. In the end we declared that no team would be allowed to win and we would keep both sides in a perpetual stalemate by destroying their advanced buildings every time they went up. So much rage took place talking about how we were playing the game “wrong” and that we all sucked and were a bunch of noobs. By far that was the most fun I ever had in the game though. In the end we kept that server in limbo for a good two-three hours until an admin got on and kicked me. I sadly never had results as amazing as that one time.

A Hall Full of Flying Rhinos
The alien team had a unit that could fly called a lurk. Quite a few servers out there had “lurk lift” enabled which let them pick up and carry any alien or marine. It led to some pretty funny things such as being able to carry a marine acting as their jetpack and just fly around screwing with the other aliens. The only things you couldn't pick up were the two largest alien units. The aliens also had another unit which was basically a huge mutated rhino called an onos. Onos had an ability called charge which knocked anything away and did a fair amount of damage to them. Normally it could only be used in bursts as it drew from a pool of recharging energy. After a particular patch suddenly not only could you pick up an onos, but if you picked them up right as their charge ran out they were permacharged. Once we figured out the bug me and my friend would fly through the halls knocking marines around. We then taught it to our fellow aliens who joined us. Just imagine an entire hallway filled with flying space-rhinos charging down at you while you hear in your ear the entire alien team yelling “stampede!” in chorus. Unfortunately it got fixed pretty quickly, but it was glorious while it lasted.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


What is "Crab Walking"?

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

tendrilsfor20 posted:

What is "Crab Walking"?

In TF2, if a spy brings out the disguise case, crouches, looks straight up, and walks around, he gets a ridiculous pose.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

tendrilsfor20 posted:

What is "Crab Walking"?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSw9pAnMwZU

It really doesn't look anything like a person doing a crabwalk, but it does look stupid.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

coyo7e posted:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSw9pAnMwZU

It really doesn't look anything like a person doing a crabwalk, but it does look stupid.

Which is the point, isn't it?

Disco Duck
Jul 30, 2004

by mons noobis
In warcraft 3 I created an account named "Santa_Claus" and played random team games. I would pick the blademaster hero, which has the ability to turn invisible. I would then buy powerful items, sneak into enemy bases, and leave the items there, all while spamming "ho ho ho".

There are a few tricks you can pull with night elves in 1v1 games. The elves' town hall is a living tree that can stand up and walk around. It can also eat other trees. At the beginning of the game you can make a path into the trees and hide your town hall there. Then kill all the workers you started out with and type something in chat like "Invisibility Cheat Enabled!" Then just go take a nap or something while your opponent tries to figure out what's going on.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

InediblePenguin posted:

Which is the point, isn't it?
It bugs the pedantist in me to call it a "crabwalk," though.

This is a crabwalk:

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
Someone earlier mentioned the Homeworld resource collecter kamakazie trick. I'd use that, but in Carrier only games, and with a cloak generater. The unit cap on resource collecters was enough to kill a Carrier if they all hit at once, and you could hyperspace them with a cloak generater, so you'd have this ball of cloaked collectors waiting until the Carrier passed over them, then have them kamakazie into the Carrier. If the enemy player didn't build cloak sensors (they almost never did) then they'd have 5 seconds warning and no way to stop you before they instantly lost. If somehow the Carrier survives finish it off with cloaked fighters.

Blackula69
Apr 1, 2007

DEHUMANIZE  YOURSELF  &  FACE  TO  BLACULA

coyo7e posted:

It bugs the pedantist in me to call it a "crabwalk," though.

It's bugs the pedant in me that you made up a word.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

coyo7e posted:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSw9pAnMwZU

It really doesn't look anything like a person doing a crabwalk, but it does look stupid.

If you watch Futurama, it mimic's Zoidbergs crabwalk decently enough. :zoid:

Boyz Scout
Nov 3, 2006

No more pigeon rubbing? Life in the vault is about to change...

Blackula69 posted:

It's bugs the pedant in me that you made up a word.

Are you guys doing this on purpose or what?

FAG ON THE FORUMS
Mar 19, 2003

by Fragmaster

coyo7e posted:

It bugs the pedantist in me to call it a "crabwalk," though.

Lol, I read that as "pederast" for some reason.

When I think of the crabwalk, I think of how Dr. Zoidberg walks, but that's just me v:shobon:v

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

FAG ON THE FORUMS posted:

Lol, I read that as "pederast" for some reason.

8 year olds, Dude.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

FAG ON THE FORUMS posted:

Lol, I read that as "pederast" for some reason.

When I think of the crabwalk, I think of how Dr. Zoidberg walks, but that's just me v:shobon:v
I'm really glad I didn't use the first google image result I got then, which was a playground full of little children crabwalking across a field.. :psyduck:

I guess I just don't watch all those cool shows anymore, so I'm out of the loop. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.. :downsgun:

FAG ON THE FORUMS
Mar 19, 2003

by Fragmaster

coyo7e posted:

I guess I just don't watch all those cool shows anymore, so I'm out of the loop. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.. :downsgun:

It's been off the air for almost five years now, so it's not exactly the hot new thing.

edit: holy poo poo, wikipedia is telling me there are new episodes?

Colin Mockery
Jun 24, 2007
Rawr



FAG ON THE FORUMS posted:


edit: holy poo poo, wikipedia is telling me there are new episodes?

Yes, that's actually true. They made new movies of it and stuff too, it's pretty neat.

Mugmoor
Dec 13, 2006

I had a ruff day at work.
Back to the topic of griefing!

I was playing Rock Band earlier and had a brilliant idea. I would go bass and play normally for about half the song but once it got to a solo or something difficult I would play horribly on purpose so that I'd fail the song. This would cause the rest of the team to have to bring me back by using their overdrive or else we all failed the song. I'd last the rest of the song until the very end, then I'd do it again.

Usually, the entire band failed the song from this and we'd fail it at 99$% complete.

Xazak
May 6, 2008

FAG ON THE FORUMS posted:

It's been off the air for almost five years now, so it's not exactly the hot new thing.

edit: holy poo poo, wikipedia is telling me there are new episodes?

Adult Swim's been running Futurama forever; I don't remember if they're still making new episodes, but they were certainly playing reruns a month ago.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


I'm oh so eager to try and be a cock in SL but every time I try and do something it reminds me what it's like to have 56K. I am on an 11Mbit connection but when I go to a new place I go AFK for 10 mins and it's still not loaded by the time I get back. This redefines lag. That, and it runs incredibly slowly on my ATI 4850.

Sir Sidney Poitier fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jul 11, 2008

I Love You!
Dec 6, 2002

Mugmoor posted:

Back to the topic of griefing!

I was playing Rock Band earlier and had a brilliant idea. I would go bass and play normally for about half the song but once it got to a solo or something difficult I would play horribly on purpose so that I'd fail the song. This would cause the rest of the team to have to bring me back by using their overdrive or else we all failed the song. I'd last the rest of the song until the very end, then I'd do it again.

Usually, the entire band failed the song from this and we'd fail it at 99$% complete.

Some of my favorite griefing involves playing well until everyone has invested a really sizeable chunk of time into the game, THEN destroying everything.

In DOTA, probably the best awful game ever made and thus one that people take unbelievably seriously, there was a patch where a hero called Tiny (a stone giant) could pick up and throw units into an area behind the starting location that was actually inescapable. Thus, any time an ally would die and respawn, or head back to buy/heal from base, you could potentially trap them for the REST OF THE GAME. There were very few ways to escape and most involved huge financial resources which were probably not available at the time, so people were basically out of play for good once this happened.

The key was to wait until the game had been going on for about half an hour, so people were really invested and would be unwilling to leave on the off chance that they would somehow be rescued. Hitting level 10 or 11 and then suddenly turning on everyone before they figured out what was happening... god, it was great.

I once managed to trap all but one of my team members, then run to the opponent's base and trap 2 of them before the game finally collapsed completely.

Uncle Marx
Jan 16, 2006

I've installed Second Life and after getting through the laggy POS mandatory tutorial and having made no preperations I just decided to wander into people's houses and lead friendly conversations with them. I thought people in Second Life were open and outgoing, but people were irritated for a reason???

Some people looked like animals wearing clothes, which intrigued me:



I'm still a bit confused about my identitiy but eager to find out more about this magical 3D wonderland.

Goons in-game (new and veteran), hit up Hobo Hellershanks for grouping or if you're willing to show me some basics (and give me free stuff). Maybe after a few days of learning I'll be able do more than BYOB-quality humor.

Time Machine GO!
May 17, 2008
I used to play TFC\TF2's predecessor QWTF pretty seriously when I was much younger. I was in a well regarded and decently ranked clan and played league matches almost exclusively. This really limited your griefing options because you didn't want to gently caress over your own clan. You could however grief the hell out of the other clan, but it took a lot of creativity to do more than simply dominate them or annoy them. You couldn't even get away with chat-attacks because that would threaten your clan's inclusion in the league. What follows is my fondest memory of the game.

Most of the leagues back then were only playing 2fort5r or Well6 so you got to know the map fast. I was a scout so I could make flag runs on autopilot. One day while pubbing I realized that I could run the entire map facing backwards. I decided to employ this tactic against a particularly annoying clan.

I'm fairly certain my first few captures came about because the image of a player running backwards exclusively during a ranked match was too ridiculous to be taken seriously. I also had a great offense squad on my side. They switched their defense up a bit, which in itself was odd seeing as everyone relied on stable\standard defenses for match play, and managed to put a stop to me for a few minutes. I decided I'd resort to using my weapons. I was what had been loving termed a 'psycho-scout' by the QWTF community. We were supposed to be glorified mail men, running the flag back and forth all day long. No one expected you to go for the kill and it infuriated people when you did.

I'd run down the long hall into the ramp room and, while passing the area, pop a timed concussion grenade directly under the area the demoman waited with his pipebombs. Conc grenades were area of effect and a lot of people didn't realize you could nail someone through walls with them. Many more didn't realize you could nail the demoman from that particular hallway. I'd get to the RR and if I was alone and the soldier was present I'd proceed to reverse-circle strafe him to death. Simply getting killed by a scout was annoying enough, I imagine that it'd be worse if the scout just happened to be running around in circles backwards. Several more caps occurred, 2 were even on the same life.

In open chat the other team couldn't do much more than yelling 'WTF!' and 'KILL THE SCOUT!' to vent their frustration. Their actions spoke louder. They set up a turtle defense, sending only 2 of their 10 on offense. In turn, we left a token 2-3 players on defense. We were winning a shut-out match and wanted to keep it that way. This worked pretty well, but my team was committed to my silly plan of attack and started camping their choke points so that I could continue. The match was over and I decided to attempt the ultimate coup de grace.

I switched to a heavy weapons guy. They're great in TF2 but were useless in QWTF. There were only a few specific maps and situations they could have a positive effect in. Soldiers often used a minor but acceptable exploit called bunny-hopping. It allowed them to reach near-scout speeds but generally only in a straight line. It took extreme control and timing to do anything more than this. A good soldier could build speed in the RR by jumping around in a tight circle before going into the open. I didn't know it was possible until I tried it, but you could switch directions once at speed and maintain your momentum. I made the final capture, a backwards bunny hopping HWG swinging an axe. This wouldn't have been possible without a team of bodyguards but was a hell of an accomplishment either way. We won 7-0.

I was immediately accused of cheating while we reported the match results to the league officials on IRC. They were too angry to consider the fact that we had to record demos as a league anti-cheating measure, apparently. I was cleared of guilt and the demo got around a bit despite the league trying to suppress it's spread. Many players left the other clan after that fiasco and they sunk to the bottom rung of the league ladders before disappearing entirely.

lazer bullet
May 23, 2007

Mr Hobo posted:



Hahaha. That is a wonderful image.

All of this SL stuff has me wanting to play as well. Just out of curiosity, and I know nothing about the game, does previous experience with 3d apps and that sort of business give you a leg up at all when it comes to creating stuff in SL?

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet
LMAO @ the "i think im a spider" and then "you must find out by yourself"

does that game really loving come with a horse sex simulator or what?

Kcow
Jul 4, 2008

Time Machine GO! posted:

QWTF story

That is a great story. I can just imagine the frustration the other team had with 2 very weak classes just making them look terrible. I would be pissed too if a scout was beating us with out looking forward

Penile Dementia
Feb 13, 2006

I Left My Heart in Stamford Bridge
It's kinda hard to grief a game about soccer management, but the amount of people who didn't like the idea of a youth/Under 18s tournament called the, "Gary Glitter Invitational", in the Championship/Football Manager series, is quite amazing. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been called a paedo because of it.

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MrDutch
Jul 9, 2008

Yes they are shoes made of wood. Nothing weird about it, please stop taking my picture. I am NOT a tourist attraction!

lazer bullet posted:

Hahaha. That is a wonderful image.

All of this SL stuff has me wanting to play as well. Just out of curiosity, and I know nothing about the game, does previous experience with 3d apps and that sort of business give you a leg up at all when it comes to creating stuff in SL?

well its a user created mod, the horse sex thing atleast, pretty sure there's more bizarre stuff in it.

Guess experience with 3d apps makes it easier for you to get started, but it really doesnt matter if your just in it for some quick fun.

Do a quick install, the game files themselves arent big, it just takes awhile to load a "level".

I got some goons on my friend list, and im online right now, but nobody returns to second life it seems... With good reason. I heard 80% of people leave at the noob island becouse it sucks so much.

Its basicly a sandbox, you have to make your own fun, its fun to get naked and just do some stupid crap, but that only amuses you for 5 minutes, most people leave after that. The horse blowjob is fun, but i have to constantly need to find new stuff to keep myself amused.

Right now im inside a house listening to 2 chicks on VOIP discussing there family lifes, and they dont know im hiding in there house in a corner where they cant see me, its pretty bizarre...

Edit: oh yeah my name is MrDutch Dezno if you want a teleport, guess these chicks will be online for another hour before the other one has to her laundry... seriously its getting pretty creepy here.

So join in!

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