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EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Drox posted:

It doesn't capture the voice chat of the person recording, if I remember correctly.

There is a command to let that be possible though.

I remember Announcer Jim saying how he did it.

edit: found it

quote:

Another simple fix. If you want to record your own in-game voice in your demos you need to turn on a certain command; voice_loopback. Voice_loopback does just what it says, it loops back your voice for you to hear and your demo to record.

1) Open console before recording
2) Type and submit "voice_loopback 1"
3) Record your demo!

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Katachresis
Jan 13, 2008

Takin' names and drillin'
Fun Shoe

Vib Rib posted:

I'll try to record a demo or something, since screenshots won't do it justice. What's a good program for that? All I know is Fraps and I dunno if that would be the best option.

Fraps works, but it creates huge files. I've found that the best place to look for info on recording games is the tech support fort on the let's play subforum: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2457316. There's a ton of info there on recording and different free video hosting services.

Jzmisgoo
Sep 15, 2007

Jzm IS goo!!
Kind of lame but you know, in Gears of War you can slap a grenade on to an enemy and they have about 2 seconds to do anything before they explode. Well my friend and I used this to griefing advantages. We would play on opposite teams and one of us would slap a grenade on to the other while the tagged person runs towards their team. Those couple of seconds are the best seconds ever.

:v: :Hey dudes whats up?
:cry: :gently caress DUDE GET AWAY FROM-
:happyelf:
:c00l:

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

EVIR Gibson posted:

There is a command to let that be possible though.

I remember Announcer Jim saying how he did it.

edit: found it

If she's using HLDJ, it probably uses voice_loopback anyway. I know mine does.

cuntrageous
Jun 6, 2008


Mr.Tophat posted:

Company of Heroes is fun to grief on. I usually only do it when a group of players play against computers, because then things get really interesting.

I made an account called "bugasabug", on which I try and make people as snug as possible. I'd mention how snug I am before the game begins. The ideal game to play is to have it on high resources, 4v4, and human players on allies. I always choose American for this. The goal is to prevent friendly units from exited from their buildings, and preventing the British player from moving his HQ by placing down tank traps, sandbags and the like. You just block them off completely by making them snug with pillows and hard beds.

It's absolutely fantastic to see players go mental because their units can't exit the tiny room which the various tank traps and sandbags give them. What's even greater joy is having an absolutely overwhelming enemy bearing down on these players, and then remove the limitation, so then we all have to work together to rapidly build a force up and win.

It's like I allowed the computer ten minutes to get ready to attack us or something. I figure a challenge is needed for these players.

Some days I think this game was literally made for griefing.

The best is when newbies click the 'ready' button when they're the only person on his team in a big game (4v4). Everyone will green up shortly after and the game will start with no delay or chance to pull out.

Moments after the game starts hundreds of builder units are charging into their base with flamethrowers setting everything alight. It's hilarious every time.

Narev
Oct 9, 2005

Something about FIR3 makes me wanna DANCE!
I've tried unsuccessfully to get a goon presence going on Carrion Fields before, and would gladly help anyone who wants to learn the game. The primary difficulty of levelling is that the game is coded such that for gaining optimum exp you must have three players, no more no less. They have added code to make characters very customizable, for example thieves have Stealing, Combat, Poisoning, and Trapmaking paths. You can specialize in a path or create a hybrid, but it's not possible to cherry pick all the best skills.

Since the game is IC and few people will talk OOC with you (There is an OOC newbie channel, though you can only use it through level 10, PK begins at 11) the main hangout is the IRC channel #Dangeroom on DALnet. I'm in there fairly rarely nowadays, but if someone wants to learn the game I'll try to be in there more often. Namedropping me will get a fairly positive reaction (I hope) as I'm one of the oldest players around, though far from the best.

http://www.carrionfields.com is the official page

http://www.qhcf.net is the unofficial page and main forum

-------

Now for a couple more stories.

Ariel was the name of a fairly notorious character who was conceived as a stripper and later a hooker. She was run by one of my first friends within the game, a woman named Andrea. She was a member of the roleplaying and only non-combat cabal (guild) the Heralds. Haralds receive skills to aid in roleplaying. They have expanded text editing abilities, can make unique drinks from behind the bar, and break up fights and expel players within the Inn of the Eternal Star, their home base. This is intended to help hardcore roleplayers stay safe from PK, though a few people have used it to hoard valuable gear.

Anyway, Ariel held a large event for her debut as a stripper, attended by a number of players and Immortal run NPCs. She enjoyed some success as a character before violating the tenants of her religion and eventually fading away. Out of character, Ariel's player generated an incredible amount of drama. She would spin tales, backed up by pictures, of an attractive early 20s woman with a very active sex life. Tales of drunken debauchery were common, and as a virginal teenage mudder I was one of many taken in by them, partially because she maintained this persona for somewhere like four years.

The inevitable meltdown of all this ended up bringing down the main unofficial game website and only forum. There wasn't an official game forum at this time, the MUDs organizers had grown tired of dealing with the countless flame wars and shut it down. Someone posting as Ariel revealed that many of the headshots used were cropped nude pics. They also revealed the fact that she had been stringing along a number of prominent players with her sexual stories and promises of eventual meetings. The forums exploded, doubters and white knights rushing to attack or defend her.

Normally a few bannings and removed threads would have put out this fire. However, Glimo, the guy who ran and moderated the forum, had chosen this weekend to go out of town, trusting that the forum would be okay. Dozens of threads, internet detective work, and fights between Ariel, her friends and supporters, and the many doubters raged out of control. The chaos spread into the game as people made characters to harass Ariel and her known associates, pretend to be alts of Ariel, or just contribute to the general chaos. Immortals surged through the crowds, banhammer swinging, and apparently sending e-mails to Glimo's unattended account saying "Control this or else!"

When Glimo finally returned to witness what was happening, he simply deleted his website and forum. A new forum run by someone else (the current one) sprang up, and was much more tigtly moderated. Eventually the dust settled, Ariel disappeared, and most people got on with their lives. I thought of Ariel as a friend (though I also resented her success to some degree and occasionally worked to undermine her) and generally tried to be supportive over IMs throughout this whole mess. Finally, weeks later, another friend who had done extensive internet detective work, presented me with a large amount of information about Andrea, Ariel's player.

This revealed and proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what you guys have known all along. Andrea Carrey, Ariel's player's supposes name, was the name of a softcore porn star. No one by that name went to her university, or lived in the area she claimed to. There was no sorority matching her descriptions, the school was mostly a commuter school and what sororities there were resembled cheritable organizations and clubs more than drunken sex parties. The person behind all this was a 400 lb lardbag named Russell, who Andrea had said was her boyfriend.

I kept this information to myself, and thought about what to do with it. Finally I presented the evidence to him and demanded that he tell me the truth. He kept up the persona for a while, saying that while he had embellished the stories, he really was a girl and our friendship hadn't been based on lies. Finally, after I said the information would be kept private, he cracked. I logged his confession, and sent it to various people I knew he had strung along over IRC, some of whom were married men with children.

I never saw Russell again, except in game. He had ensnared a bi-curious girl who eventually became an immortal with his girl persona, and used the relationship to gain favoritism. His new character was the high priest of her religion, with several quest items, quest spells, unique titles, leadership of a cabal, and various other perks reserved for the best of the best. I tried to tell the other immortals about the favoritism, and the bi-curious immortal about the fact that he was lying, but they didn't care. After that character, Russell simply faded away. So did the immortal, in time.

Epilogue:
Very few people remember all this, and almost none play the game any more. It was an education for me in "Girl on the Internet" syndrome, and trusting too deeply in general. Russell would have been one of the all time greatest trolls with the chaos he caused, if that's what he had meant. I think he simply liked the attention and got in over his head. Sadly, he wasn't the only fake Carrion Fields Internet Girl, though he caused the most trouble.

TL;DR: A description of the havok wrought on a MUD community by Girl on the Internet syndrome. Sorry it's such a goddamn novel.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

Narev posted:

Anyway, Ariel held a large event for her debut as a stripper, attended by a number of players and Immortal run NPCs.

I've been playing MU* and MMOs since the late Nineties, and this is still the saddest loving thing that I have ever read in relation to any of them. Ye loving gods.

Durzel
Nov 15, 2005


Looks like GamesRadar have been trawling SA for inspiration...

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/gamings-most-evil-pranks/a-2008101694140390076

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
Wow, does micspam really piss people off that much? On my regular server we micspam almost constantly; I'm always trying to come up with game-appropriate background music. (I like playing "Crazy Train" when a match starts on Well, and I have some Offspring for all-Scout gimmick matches, Firestarter for all-Pyro, that Rah Rah Rasputin song for all-Heavy, so on and so forth.)

Actually come to think of it we do get pubbies in who bitch at us about the music. I usually just drugs 'em and let 'em cry.

Glitch
May 7, 2002

zip zip zoom

InediblePenguin posted:

Wow, does micspam really piss people off that much?
Generally only during the round proper when voice communication matters. Most people don't care during setup time or humiliation (which is where I hear most of it anyway).

Drox
Aug 9, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Durzel posted:

Looks like GamesRadar have been trawling SA for inspiration...

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/gamings-most-evil-pranks/a-2008101694140390076

Haha, that article is like a window to the first few pages of this thread.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

InediblePenguin posted:

Wow, does micspam really piss people off that much? On my regular server we micspam almost constantly; I'm always trying to come up with game-appropriate background music. (I like playing "Crazy Train" when a match starts on Well, and I have some Offspring for all-Scout gimmick matches, Firestarter for all-Pyro, that Rah Rah Rasputin song for all-Heavy, so on and so forth.)

Actually come to think of it we do get pubbies in who bitch at us about the music. I usually just drugs 'em and let 'em cry.

A while back, I was playing TF2 with a guy who played the Super Mario star music when he ubered someone, which I thought was pretty awesome. It's mainly irritating when the sound quality is poo poo, in my opinion.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Narev posted:

I played a MUD called Carrion Fields for some years... Serious griefing would get you banned

Poking around on the MUD's website, I'm thinking that Gaping Maw religion seems a lot like faith-based griefing.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse
Micspam only really irritates me when there's three or four people spamming poo poo at once, when someone thinks it's awesome to just leave the mic open and scream (as in "AAAAGHHHHHHHH" over and over, not as in yelling poo poo) for the entire round, or when some 11-year-old kid spends the whole game shouting at people in Dutch at a decibel level and pitch that his lovely Dutch-Wal-Mart microphone can't hope to handle.

Spirit Tree
Jan 22, 2007
Photosynthesising
You can get or make really annoying music, something that seems funny or rhythmic at first but gets annoying at 30 seconds and soul crushing if you continue more. It's not so effective in TF2 since they can just mute you, there used to be ways to avoid being muted though.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Spirit Tree posted:

You can get or make really annoying music, something that seems funny or rhythmic at first but gets annoying at 30 seconds and soul crushing if you continue more. It's not so effective in TF2 since they can just mute you, there used to be ways to avoid being muted though.

I tried out some less blatant micspam, like this, just earlier today in TF2.
I've found it's best if it takes them a while to catch on to what you're doing.
I had a lot of fun with a custom mix I made of TF2 voice files where the Spy and Medic have rough sex and employ such normally-innocuous-but-situationally-obscene phrases as "sorry to POP IN unannounced", "the dispenser goes HERE", and my personal favorite, "oh dear, I've made quite a mess". Plus, right at the end, at the height of passion, they call out each other's names.
SPY!
MEDIC!

But perhaps the best reaction is from when I used a loop of the Disney's Aladdin song "Friend Like Me"
The intro riff. Some people recognize it.
The first lines come up. Some people are getting into it, or at least tolerating it.
Then the vocals begin
YOU AIN'T NEVER HAD A FRIEND
NEVER HAD A FRIEND
and slowly
YOU AIN'T NEVER HAD A FRIEND
NEVER HAD A FRIEND
with every line
YOU AIN'T NEVER HAD A FRIEND
NEVER HAD A FRIEND
the horrible realization dawns on them.
YOU AIN'T NEVER HAD A FRIEND
NEVER HAD A FRIEND

Continue for five solid minutes, never actually breaking into the main song.

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

Vib Rib posted:

YOU AIN'T NEVER HAD A FRIEND
NEVER HAD A FRIEND

Another fun looping micspam is THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST etc.

Spirit Tree
Jan 22, 2007
Photosynthesising

Vib Rib posted:

I tried out some less blatant micspam, like this, just earlier today in TF2.

I've been trying to make some really annoying ones with little success. It's less effective in TF2 as I've said since they removed this exploit where they couldn't mute you, there's still one in CS:S and DoD:S at least. The best ones are things that aren't so openly ear hurting, but something you can't block out subconsciously because it keeps spiking between high and low notes.

There's this good midi file another goon gave me of this old midi song that sounds like "Do you ears hang low/Turkey in a Straw" but it isn't, it's just perfect as it sounds so cheery but keeps going on for like 2 minutes and when you think it's about to end it starts up again. Also been experimenting with looping some bluegrass tunes over and over but the sound quality just makes it sound horrid instead of being just something so cheerfully evil.

The responses tend to progress like:
"haha"
"rofl"
"that was good"
"okay that's enough now man"
"dude stop"
"it's not funny anymore"
"Come on fucks sake stop it"
"loving STOP IT"
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

Mathemagician
Aug 21, 2003

tell me some more

Vib Rib posted:

YOU AIN'T NEVER HAD A FRIEND
NEVER HAD A FRIEND
I think I ran into you doing this once, I remember everyone was completely flipping out and I was just laughing

I kind of stopped playing TF2 recently, like I always do a month after a new patch comes out. The only thing I miss is mic spam :(

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
I like to play numbers stations at them.

Jetsetlemming
Dec 31, 2007

i'Am also a buetifule redd panda

InediblePenguin posted:

I like to play numbers stations at them.
Ooh, that's a good one, I've gotta try it. I've got about two dozen sound samples of those on my computer.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Jetsetlemming posted:

sound samples of those

more here too, http://irdial.hyperreal.org/the%20conet%20project/

Jetsetlemming
Dec 31, 2007

i'Am also a buetifule redd panda

Crime on a Dime posted:

more here too, http://irdial.hyperreal.org/the%20conet%20project/
The Conet Project is exactly what I've got, except I got them from archive.org, which only had the first disc. Thanks!

lohli
Jun 30, 2008

Spirit Tree posted:

The best ones are things that aren't so openly ear hurting, but something you can't block out subconsciously because it keeps spiking between high and low notes.

Chiptunes can be great for that, I downloaded all of the music that 8bitpeoples.com were hosting and some of it is really awful, a lot of it is great, and some of it people actually enjoy having played down the mic in the middle of a tf2 clusterfuck, but there are a select few songs which are near ear-splittingly bad, but tolerable, and you'd never be able to ignore them.

I'll try pulling up a list of such songs later.

e:

The mod Empires can be great to grief, grenadiers get to lay mines, up to 8 of them, if you try to lay a ninth, the first explodes, your mines can chain off eachother, so the natural thing to do is to stack 8 mines on top of eachother, lay a ninth, and watch whatever it is that you just ninemined fly/explode.

Considering that most of the time there is no friendly fire, this can be used to do things like launch friendly vehicles over cliff-faces.

Although I hear that the nine-mine mechanic is going to be patched out pretty soon, despite the game having not been patched in 6monnths(apparently a patch is set to be released in the coming months).

Also regarding the 8bitpeoples chiptune stuff.
Mr. Spastic - QWERTY
Nullsleep - Dirty ROM Dance Mix
Yerzmyey - gently caress Off


Those should do the trick, it'll get a mixed reception which is even better, because some people will beg for you to continue playing it, and others will just piss and moan but not simply turn it off.

lohli fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Oct 19, 2008

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

How is playing music to people who dont want to hear music in TF2 griefing? That's seems to me it's just being an annoying oval office, not a griefer. It's pretty unimaginative. I guess there isn't that much shenanigans you can do in TF2 compared to mmorpgs and SL.

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!
I'm going to suggest a bunch of heavies getting together and doing nothing but sitting in the spawn eating sandviches, telling everyone it's a Heavy Weapons Guy Union-required lunch break and if they want the Heavies to do anything they can take it up with the union.

gucci mangosteen
Feb 26, 2007

hambeet posted:

being an annoying oval office

Isn't that griefing in its rawest form?

whsa
Apr 24, 2008
it's still griefing, it's just not as creative as some of the examples in the thread.

i'm grateful for the mic spam contributions, i encountered the idea of the numbers station for the first time today (except lost, and i didn't know what it was then), which is nice as i'm studing linear algebra and did some coding last week.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Algernon Quazar posted:

Isn't that griefing in its rawest form?

No, being an annoying oval office is being an annoying oval office. Griefing is causing people to completely lose the plot.

I know according to the dictionary they can be used for one and the same, but I'd personally reserve the term griefing for that "special" above and beyond type of mischief.

If you want to use the looser definition, well hell, I'm griefing by playing a spy well in TF2, because I'm sure as poo poo my backstabs would annoy someone I am playing against.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Nyphur posted:

griefing.net

Attempting to go to the forums or links while watching a video adds a "/videos" to the middle of the address and causes it not to work. Also, I can read the admin-only forum as an unregistered user.

EvilMuppet
Jul 29, 2006


Good night catte thread, give them all many patts. I'm sorry,

Hello Sailor posted:

Attempting to go to the forums or links while watching a video adds a "/videos" to the middle of the address and causes it not to work. Also, I can read the admin-only forum as an unregistered user.
I wouldn't normally bother you about it but considering this forums is bout greifing, you need to fix this.

EvilMuppet fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Oct 20, 2008

lohli
Jun 30, 2008

hambeet posted:

No, being an annoying oval office is being an annoying oval office. Griefing is causing people to completely lose the plot.

You'd be surprised at just how enraged someone can get when everything gets drowned out by annoying music, I've had people screaming down microphones for 5 minutes straight over this kinda thing, and then they stay p tetchy for the next hour.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Hello Sailor posted:

Attempting to go to the forums or links while watching a video adds a "/videos" to the middle of the address and causes it not to work. Also, I can read the admin-only forum as an unregistered user.
The forum is also in a frame that I have to scroll. He is giving web designers everywhere a heart attack.
Edit: Maybe he's griefing web designers.

Nyphur
May 28, 2005

Founder of the Goon Hug Squad ♥

Hello Sailor posted:

Attempting to go to the forums or links while watching a video adds a "/videos" to the middle of the address and causes it not to work.
Fixed, thanks.

EvilMuppet posted:

I wouldn't normally bother you about it but considering this forums is bout greifing, you need to fix this.


That's one of those standard posts the forum automatically makes when it's created. I had no intention of using it but hadn't gotten around to deleting that forum yet. Regarding the frame, if there's a better way to do it I'm all ears. I mean I just threw it up in about 30 minutes. Would a direct to the forum link be preferable? Given that it's a griefing forum, I decided not to run it on my own server in case someone DoS's it.

Nyphur fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Oct 20, 2008

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Nyphur posted:

Fixed, thanks.

That's one of those standard posts the forum automatically makes when it's created. I had no intention of using it but hadn't gotten around to deleting that forum yet. Regarding the frame, if there's a better way to do it I'm all ears. Would a direct link be preferable? Given that it's a griefing forum, I decided not to run it on my own server in case someone DoS's it.
Anything other than having it in a frame is good, frames are very 1995. It should be a direct link.

Nyphur
May 28, 2005

Founder of the Goon Hug Squad ♥

Yaos posted:

Anything other than having it in a frame is good, frames are very 1995. It should be a direct link.
Well I did do most of my web-design around 1995 :p. It's a direct link now, if there are any other suggestions please let me know. I'd really like it if we could start using it to organise some griefing action or something.

Rukus
Mar 13, 2007

Hmph.
Most Xbox Live games of Battlefield 2 would dissolve into camping the helicopter spawns, getting team killed, and having the 'copters stolen without any passengers or gunners.

What a friend and I would do is throw a C4 charge right on the tail of the 'copter. This is where the beeping is inaudible to the pilot and not noticeable, and wait for them to take off. Most of the time they'd put the nose close to the ground and move before gaining altitude, and that's when I'd detonate the C4. It would flip the 'copter over, crashing into the ground, gaining the pilot a suicide and team kills if there were riders. Most of the time they'd not know what happened and would we'd keep doing it until the guy quits or stops taking it.

Nyphur
May 28, 2005

Founder of the Goon Hug Squad ♥

Ruklo Burosee posted:

Most Xbox Live games of Battlefield 2 would dissolve into camping the helicopter spawns, getting team killed, and having the 'copters stolen without any passengers or gunners.

What a friend and I would do is throw a C4 charge right on the tail of the 'copter. This is where the beeping is inaudible to the pilot and not noticeable, and wait for them to take off. Most of the time they'd put the nose close to the ground and move before gaining altitude, and that's when I'd detonate the C4. It would flip the 'copter over, crashing into the ground, gaining the pilot a suicide and team kills if there were riders. Most of the time they'd not know what happened and would we'd keep doing it until the guy quits or stops taking it.

On the PC versions of the battlefield games, most servers installed these punishment mods for combatting teamkilling. So instead of blowing the planes up, we jumped in front of them and got killed, then punished the guy in the plane. That and shooting someone down to 1-2% HP were my favourite ways to grief, they'd always teamkill you and get punished.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

hambeet posted:

No, being an annoying oval office is being an annoying oval office. Griefing is causing people to completely lose the plot.

I know according to the dictionary they can be used for one and the same, but I'd personally reserve the term griefing for that "special" above and beyond type of mischief.

If you want to use the looser definition, well hell, I'm griefing by playing a spy well in TF2, because I'm sure as poo poo my backstabs would annoy someone I am playing against.
People get SERIOUSLY upset about numbers stations. They just seem to strike a TERROR chord in the soul. I've had people practically crying over the mic asking me to turn it off, people claiming they were getting physically ill - they turn into absolute pussies when little girls start chanting numbers over music-box tunes, go figure.

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oxy
May 14, 2008

Narev posted:

Carrionfields.

I use to play the poo poo out of this MUD but quit 1.5 years ago. If your still playing I'd like it if you can show me the new gold spots, wands, preps, etc that would really get me back into playing since I dont have the time now to spend 80+ hours exploring with preps.

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