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Bagleworm
Aug 15, 2007
I has your rocks

TravBot posted:

He also always licks his paws after he scratches himself, which I can't quite explain.

Oh, my three do that too. Yummy ear wax! :3:
I've got a lop (I'm always stunned by how similar their body structure is to each other's) and I always squeal when he's cleaning his ears. Course, he never does it long enough for me to fetch my camera. :(

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ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
I'm amazed that the cuteness levels in this thread haven't reached critical mass and killed us all by now.

How old is Oliver, TravBot?

angelicism
Dec 1, 2004
mmmbop.

Frith does the paw shake too and the first time I thought he was having a fit, because I'd never seen Zen do that. Now she does too, which is weird.

I'm sympathize with everyone who has way too fast and camera shy bunnies. Mine will be doing something really cute and the moment I run to get even my phone (even though my phone camera blows) -- BAM, bounce somewhere else, or back into a boring old meatloaf.

(Zen meatloafs like a pro.)

I did manage to slowly creep up on Frith with his butt in the litter box and his torso hanging out, like the lazy bunny he is, so once I remember to upload those I will certainly post them. He looks so silly.

Mow
Jun 11, 2008
I recently was at a pet store and saw this food, which they were selling for $40. I'm curious if it's the usual crap petstores tend to sell for rabbits. Has anyone fed it to there buns? I feel like I can't really properly evaluate it, so if someone with more knowledge wanted to give me their opinion, that would be great! Bun Bun and Trudy are fed a veggie and hay diet, with a couple tablespoons of pellets twice a week for snacking. I don't really intend on changing this, but I'm ever hopeful for more healthy options for rabbits to recommend to others. Thanks in advance :)

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Mow posted:

I recently was at a pet store and saw this food, which they were selling for $40. I'm curious if it's the usual crap petstores tend to sell for rabbits. Has anyone fed it to there buns? I feel like I can't really properly evaluate it, so if someone with more knowledge wanted to give me their opinion, that would be great! Bun Bun and Trudy are fed a veggie and hay diet, with a couple tablespoons of pellets twice a week for snacking. I don't really intend on changing this, but I'm ever hopeful for more healthy options for rabbits to recommend to others. Thanks in advance :)

As I understand it, most processed bunny food is bullshit. They do perfectly fine on the diet you're giving them (so long as there isn't too much starch or calcium, but again this depends on age). It also sounds like you're doing things right by limiting their pellet intake.

I'm sure Alucinor would put in his ever-helpful input too, but it sounds like you're doing fine so far.

Mow
Jun 11, 2008

ShadowCatboy posted:

As I understand it, most processed bunny food is bullshit. They do perfectly fine on the diet you're giving them (so long as there isn't too much starch or calcium, but again this depends on age). It also sounds like you're doing things right by limiting their pellet intake.

I'm sure Alucinor would put in his ever-helpful input too, but it sounds like you're doing fine so far.

Thanks, though I wasn't really concerned about how I'm feeding them though, just curious how this new food measures up to Oxbow products and the like

TravBot
Oct 10, 2004

If we can hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards Checkmate

Bagleworm posted:

Oh, my three do that too. Yummy ear wax! :3:
I've got a lop (I'm always stunned by how similar their body structure is to each other's) and I always squeal when he's cleaning his ears. Course, he never does it long enough for me to fetch my camera. :(

The trick is to sit watching him with a camera for an hour or so. They're bound to do something cute in that time!

ShadowCatboy posted:

I'm amazed that the cuteness levels in this thread haven't reached critical mass and killed us all by now.

How old is Oliver, TravBot?

Oliver is 6 months old now. A big boy!
This is from when he was littler:


He's filled out since then, and he developed a brown triangle on the back of his neck. You can kind of see it here:

TravBot fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Dec 7, 2008

angelicism
Dec 1, 2004
mmmbop.

Something I'm getting more frustrated with lately: what do you guys give your buns for digging? I have started donating my clothing I don't like anymore (don't worry, just like plain cotton t-shirts and stuff, nothing polyester or beaded they could chew on) into a pile to dig at. That was all well and good but they seem to be tired of it and are now instead picking apart my carpet. Or at my down comforter. And I now have a bite size hole in a sheet.

Is there any way to better reinforce THIS you can dig in, THIS you can't? Suggestions for a more appealing digging pile?

alucinor
May 21, 2003



Taco Defender

Mow posted:

I recently was at a pet store and saw this food, which they were selling for $40. I'm curious if it's the usual crap petstores tend to sell for rabbits.

The nutritional breakdown with regards to fat, protein, and fiber isn't that different from Oxbow. However, they don't list the ingredients on this page. I had to search around to find:

"Ingredients: Derivatives of vegetable origin, cereals, vegetables (min. 10%), vegetable protein extracts, seeds, minerals, FOS, MOS, lecithin (0,2 %), yucca-extract, marigold extract."

Not terribly useful, but maybe it's the language barrier. Is there any hay in there at all in those "vegetable derivatives"? Any evidence of what type of hay it is? Without the inclusion of hay, the fiber particles will only be the short kind derived from veggies, which are far less useful to rabbits than long-strands derived from hay. Hopefully the information is just incomplete.

Also, note the inclusion of "Fructo-OligoSaccharides (FOS) and Mannan-OligoSaccharides". They are prebiotics used to change the gut environment to stimulate the proliferation of certain types of bacteria. However, they haven't been widely studied in rabbits. Their use in rabbit foods is mostly based on a very few studies which show beneficial effects in rats and humans, in bacterial classes also found in rabbits. I am always hesitant in recommending a diet (for rabbits OR humans) which fucks with gut flora, without adequate scientific evidence to demonstrate EXACTLY what effect it has. Their guts are already so sensitive, any imbalance could be deadly. If I had to choose between this and Oxbow, I'd go with Oxbow simply on that alone.

If there really is long-strand grass hay fiber in there, this is by not one of the worst diets I've seen. Certainly in the quantities you are feeding, it doesn't seem like it would be harmful. For now I give it a cautious low-positive endorsement.

Baitu posted:

I think we've talked about this before, how would people rate Zupreem compared to Oxbow?

Again, the nutrition breakdown isn't terribly different from Oxbow, except that instead of wheat and soy, the secondary ingredients are corn. Dried whole corn should NEVER be fed, as it can cause blockages, but I'm not aware of any research saying that the inclusion of ground corn is problematic, apart from the higher carbohydrate content. I wouldn't recommend a Zupreem-heavy diet to rabbits who have a history of stasis, but otherwise it's one of the better brands. Their bird food is the bomb, apparently their monkey food is too, but I'm always skeptical of a specialist who has decided to become a generalist. Usually it just makes you a little worse at everything.

Overall, my ratings are probably Oxbow > Zupreem = Kaytee Timothy Complete (higher carb vs lower fiber makes them equivalent depending on your needs) > Cuni Complete > anything else.

angelicism posted:

Is there any way to better reinforce THIS you can dig in, THIS you can't? Suggestions for a more appealing digging pile?

Only by location, meaning, you just have to prevent access to unapproved materials. :( I can't bring my favorite bun in the bedroom anymore unless I'm sitting on the bed to supervise, because she'll jump up and chew holes. You might have some luck if you restrict the location of approved digging items to ONE location, and barricade all other locations on a case-by-case basis till they lose interest.

With regards to the carpet, one of my adopters came up with the ingenious solution of layering 2-3 grass mats over the areas where they were digging. It doesn't look Martha-tastic, but it's better than losing all the carpet.

alucinor fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Dec 8, 2008

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

TravBot posted:

Oliver is 6 months old now. A big boy!
This is from when he was littler:

Eeeeeeeeeeee! :neckbeard: :swoon:

God buns are amazing. Most animals are loving adorable when they're babies, but usually they lose a good deal of their cuteness once they get older. Buns retain like, 90% of that cuddlyness.

I love them so. :3:

angelicism
Dec 1, 2004
mmmbop.

alucinor posted:

Only by location, meaning, you just have to prevent access to unapproved materials. :( I can't bring my favorite bun in the bedroom anymore unless I'm sitting on the bed to supervise, because she'll jump up and chew holes. You might have some luck if you restrict the location of approved digging items to ONE location, and barricade all other locations on a case-by-case basis till they lose interest.

With regards to the carpet, one of my adopters came up with the ingenious solution of layering 2-3 grass mats over the areas where they were digging. It doesn't look Martha-tastic, but it's better than losing all the carpet.

That's so frustrating. :( I see all the bunny pics everyone keeps posting having them meandering on beds, sitting on top of books, and all I can think of is "Zen eats books" and "Frith tried to dig through a sheet the other day". :sigh:

Bagleworm
Aug 15, 2007
I has your rocks

angelicism posted:

That's so frustrating. :( I see all the bunny pics everyone keeps posting having them meandering on beds, sitting on top of books, and all I can think of is "Zen eats books" and "Frith tried to dig through a sheet the other day". :sigh:

It's alright. We can't let the buns into our bedroom either or they eat the mattress. (They've carved a bunny-sized hole into the corner of our box spring.) We can't leave any books or papers on the floor or they eat the corners, not even my textbooks on the bookshelf are safe.

Hell, we have to keep our coat-closet closed or they eat the door itself.

You're not alone in having destructive bunnies. :(

Mow
Jun 11, 2008

alucinor posted:


Overall, my ratings are probably Oxbow > Zupreem = Kaytee Timothy Complete (higher carb vs lower fiber makes them equivalent depending on your needs) > Cuni Complete > anything else.


Wow thanks! That was really helpful. I definitely don't like the idea of loving up their gut flora, so I'll just keep them on the same pellet. Also, Cuni Complete seems like a huge waste of money in comparison with the healthier alternatives.

Tricknee Hacksaw
Nov 15, 2006

This sky is not pretty at all. It's rough and masculine. Like me.
Well, being that it's that time of year, we figured our rabbits shouldn't be left out of the holiday spirit. So we bought them a box!
A very awesome, three-leveled box, especially made for rabbits to play in, hide in, and chew up.

I took some photos while they were exploring it for the first time and I thought I'd share :)


Hazel quickly found his way to the second level but expressed some hesitancy about the top level.


Kiwi doesn't like levels, so she'll probably be sticking around the ground floor most often.


Discussing the finer points of their new house, or possibly chewing on it.

The new box also came with a fresh shipment of Oxbow hay, which the rabbits celebrated by throwing it all over the cage. Of course!

Also they both seem to be doing better since their medical problems I mentioned a few pages back.. Hazel is starting to eat hay on his own (Hallelujah!) and Kiwi is just as good, or bad, as ever.

TravBot
Oct 10, 2004

If we can hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards Checkmate

Tricknee Hacksaw posted:

Well, being that it's that time of year, we figured our rabbits shouldn't be left out of the holiday spirit. So we bought them a box!
A very awesome, three-leveled box, especially made for rabbits to play in, hide in, and chew up.

I took some photos while they were exploring it for the first time and I thought I'd share :)


Hazel quickly found his way to the second level but expressed some hesitancy about the top level.


Kiwi doesn't like levels, so she'll probably be sticking around the ground floor most often.


Discussing the finer points of their new house, or possibly chewing on it.

The new box also came with a fresh shipment of Oxbow hay, which the rabbits celebrated by throwing it all over the cage. Of course!

Also they both seem to be doing better since their medical problems I mentioned a few pages back.. Hazel is starting to eat hay on his own (Hallelujah!) and Kiwi is just as good, or bad, as ever.

Where did you find this box? Oliver loves climbing, and also likes to chew on stuff, so it looks like it'd be great for him!

Also, I like spoiling him.....

Tricknee Hacksaw
Nov 15, 2006

This sky is not pretty at all. It's rough and masculine. Like me.

TravBot posted:

Where did you find this box?

http://leithpetwerks.com/

Pretty cool store, I recommend!

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Hey boys and girls. This is Jimmy.





Now I should mention that Jimmy does not belong to me, but instead to goonette Liz Con Queso. Since she doesn't have time to give proper introductions, she's given me permission to post about Jimmy on her behalf, because the world needs more cute bunny pictures.

This little guy is a wee netherland dwarf, and is quite possibly the cutest little bun ever. He loves people, and thinks of Liz as his mommy, since when she comes home he's so happy that he'll give her kisses and just won't stop. He's also very calm under pressure and seems to be quite fine with being handled. Just look at how calm and comfy he looks when being held as a baby:





He also loves playing with the dog...





...and playing outside...





...and eating, like all buns.





He loves blueberries too. Liz has mentioned that he's especially fond of blueberries. If he's been good she'll give him a little pile of 'em, and if she looks away for just a second, they're all gone by the time she turns back.

Such a cuddly little fella. :)

Baitu
Mar 6, 2008

Veggie Fiend
We got a "X-Large bunny home" for the trip. I'm going to feel horrible the whole time the bunnies are in it. We actually have to pack their cubes cage in the trailer, which leaves 2 days before we will, but I plan on letting the bunnies have a bathroom during that time.

It took them a couple hours to come out of their cage today, I think the changes in the living room unnerved them. They seem pretty happy right now though, hopping around and chewing on discarded boxes.

TravBot
Oct 10, 2004

If we can hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards Checkmate
In light of all of the cute pictures I recently posted of Oliver, my girlfriend and I are big worriers and I had a couple questions to ask to see if his behavior is normal "I'm reaching adulthood behavior" or "I'm not feeling well behavior." He's not been eating as much, although he is still eating regularly. We even gave him basil (one of his favorites) and he didn't completely devour all of it the way he normally does, but he did eventually finish it in the same day. He also hasn't been nearly as playful. It used to be that when we let him run around the room he would run all over and hop about, but now he's doing much less of that and more hiding where he can hide. He doesn't seem to me to be sick, but it's still weird that he's acting differently. Is this just him settling into adulthood, or should we take him to see the vet?

Another thought is that he might have hurt himself. He recently slipped off our bed (about 1.5-2 feet tall, wood floor) and seemed to recover, but was shaken up. Could he still be recovering? Is he bruised? Is it something worse? He still seems mobile, he just doesn't move around as much as he used to.

He's 6 months old, in case you are wondering

Bonus picture of baby-Oliver, looking at the camera expectantly

Bunway Airlines
Jan 12, 2008

Raptor Face
I would take him to the vet just to be sure. Rabbits can go downhill very quickly with something that starts out pretty minor. My guys eat more the older they get, but it's also seasonal.

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
I doubt it's the fall that did it. My aunt's rabbit once or twice raced down the stairs and WHAM smacked into the opposite wall. He shook it off just fine. They're pretty resilient.

It is unusual that he isn't excitable and humping everything in sight though. How long has he been acting funny?

TravBot
Oct 10, 2004

If we can hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards Checkmate
A few days, 2-4 I'd say. He's neutered, so I don't expect him to hump TOO much, but he doesn't run around as much, which is the worrying bit. He also usually does more jumping up in the air, and he's been staying mostly on the ground more recently.

edit: Not that we're not going to keep an eye on him, but we've been paying some good attention, and he seems to have cheered up. For the moment, the weirdest behavior he's displaying is snuggling up and letting us pat him... He usually only puts up with it for a second but now seems to ask for it! I am optimistic at this point... Thanks for the replies though, I do appreciate it :3:

TravBot fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Dec 15, 2008

projek7
May 1, 2006
twinkie
Few days ago my rabbit showed signs of head tilt, we took him into the vet and found that he has a infection in the inner ear. At one point he was rolling, eyes were twitching and he couldn't tell up from down. He's stable now but still wobbles around and looks like he's having a hard time keeping balance. We've been treating him with antibiotics and TLC. Its so sad to see him with the head tilt and wobbling around trying to get to his food.

Has anyone experienced this? And if so, what can else can we do to help him through this? I know this takes time and we need to be patient but I can't stand to see him like this.

alucinor
May 21, 2003



Taco Defender
Is the vet CERTAIN it's a simple inner ear infection? E. cunniculi is a common rabbit malady with the exact same symptoms, but it's much more serious and can even be fatal (though usually from stasis or secondary causes). More here. Ear infection is usually one of the first diagnoses before EC is discovered, so unless this vet is a board certified exotics expert and EC had been ruled out through diagnostic tests, I'd worry that EC was missed.

The treatment for EC is injectable antibiotics - penicillin derivatives like Bicillin, usually. Yes, penicillin is toxic to rabbit's gut flora, which is why you inject it instead, that keeps it farther from the gut. You'll still need to watch like a hawk for stasis.

Even if he doesn't stasis, he may not be able to eat enough on his own. I'd recommend getting a kitchen scale and weighing him twice daily, and supplementing his regular food with syringe feeding using Critical Care. If your vet hasn't already given you some, get some ASAP and read this. You may also need to provide subcu fluids if the bunny isn't drinking/eating adequate wet veggies, the vet can show you that as well. Check the poops daily, make sure he's still producing, and see if he's eating his cecals. If not, you may have to feed those to him, too. :barf:

For housing, you'll probably want to move him to temporarily smaller quarters, and pad the sides of the cage with towels so he can't poke his eye out during his struggles. Line the floor with more towels and just plan to clean it out daily, if he can't get in and out of his litterbox.

Good luck. EC can be horrible and frightening to deal with, but I've known several buns come through it with little more than a permanent quizzical slant to their heads. :downs:

projek7
May 1, 2006
twinkie
Thanks for the advise. We're still waiting for our buns blood work to come back, but in the mean time he prescribe some medication to fight off parasites + antibiotics. As for food, we've been feeding him critical care and he's been able to drink on his own. I'll try making his home a little smaller and see how he does. Its just sad to see him fall over every time he tries to do something. I'm worried about him damaging his eye, is there anything we can do? The vet gave us artificial tear drops but there's nothing we can do at the moment to avoid eye trauma.

munchies
Feb 2, 2003

new bun, it is about 6 weeks old:


The trio chillin' in the neutral zone:


I'm trying to bond the baby to my other girls. So far it is going well, we did have a little scuffle when I first introduced them and the baby got bit on the ear and the ear was pierced. Since then I've seen grooming, so all is going much better now. Since the ear injury the baby has been holding its ear down, I read online that if the ear cartilage is damaged it will hold its ear down. I've been keeping neosporin on it, and it looks like its healing ok. My question is once the ear is healed will the bun's ear return to "normal"?

Edit: you can see the injury in the picture above.

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
It's funny how communal poopin' brings 'em all together.

And she's loving adorable. :swoon:

GoodApollo
Jul 9, 2005

Baitu posted:

We got a "X-Large bunny home" for the trip. I'm going to feel horrible the whole time the bunnies are in it. We actually have to pack their cubes cage in the trailer, which leaves 2 days before we will, but I plan on letting the bunnies have a bathroom during that time.

It took them a couple hours to come out of their cage today, I think the changes in the living room unnerved them. They seem pretty happy right now though, hopping around and chewing on discarded boxes.

aww... Well My girlfriend and I have to take our bunnies on the road a lot, they don't like it but after awhile they just sort of zone out and deal with it. The only bad part is whoever puts them in their carrier will get snubbed for a few days afterward but they get over it.

Bobblehead Biddy
Nov 6, 2008

Then I will sit here consumed with lust for the rest of the evening!
Ugh, help me PI. Since adding an extension to Houdini's cage, he seems to have completely forgotten that he's litterbox trained. He's pooping and peeing everywhere now. Since the cage is on the floor of my bedroom, I have the bottom and top space where he can jump up lined with old towels. Is this the issue? Or is there any way I can remind him that the litterbox exists? I'm trying to think of a harder surface I can line the cage with, but I'm stuck for ideas.

SpaceMonkey
Jul 11, 2006
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Bobblehead Biddy posted:

Ugh, help me PI. Since adding an extension to Houdini's cage, he seems to have completely forgotten that he's litterbox trained. He's pooping and peeing everywhere now. Since the cage is on the floor of my bedroom, I have the bottom and top space where he can jump up lined with old towels. Is this the issue? Or is there any way I can remind him that the litterbox exists? I'm trying to think of a harder surface I can line the cage with, but I'm stuck for ideas.

Probably just marking new territory, or he's lazy like my rabbits and doesn't want to travel to the litterbox.
Try picking up another box for him to use in the new extension.

Baitu
Mar 6, 2008

Veggie Fiend
Finally moved in and back online!

Everyone did okay during the trip. Our moving truck got held up in the weather, so everyone was stuck in tiny cages for a few days on this side too. At least I was smart enough to bring extra food with us. An upside is that a belonging free home is a pretty bunny safe home and they had lots of fun racing about.

Mocha and Creme will be 2 on the 3rd! We are going to have a bunny birthday/house warming/New Years party in their honor.

I found a magazine called "Rabbits USA" in Borders that was pretty decent. It might be a nice gift for a friend that has rabbits and needs some guidance, especially if they aren't big readers. Some people really need written guidance to reinforce verbal advice.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
I never noticed it at the zoo, since I had tile floors and swept daily to keep scorpions out, but Momo loving sheds BAD. He's a shorthaired lop (little ears = mini-lop?) that I got as a rescue from a friend a few years ago. He does love getting brushed, but is he missing something in his diet if he keeps shedding? The fur is always gray, and he's a brown bunny.

Cowslip continues to ignore me and will take treats, but otherwise would, I suspect, be just as happy if I died and the cat and snakes ate me.

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.
hey guys. I'm really sorry to post this here but I don't want to post on craigslist because I don't want my rabbits to go to anyone who isn't a house bunny fanatic, y know?

I live in Toronto and can't take care of my rabbits anymore. They're the cutest things ever and have been living at my parent's house for the last few months. I miss them dearly but my house isn't suitable for them right now.

they're litter trained and bonded so have to go together. They're free range but have a cage.

this is them:


Paterson


Bitsy

luscious fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jan 3, 2009

alucinor
May 21, 2003



Taco Defender

luscious posted:

hey guys. I'm really sorry to post this here but I don't want to post on craigslist because I don't want my rabbits to go to anyone who isn't a house bunny fanatic, y know?

Contact your local HRS and ask for a courtesy listing on Petfinder. Specify that you will keep them until they are adopted, but you would like permission to use their adoption application to screen potential adopters.

CharlesWillisMaddox
Jun 6, 2007

by angerbeet
Lurking this thread.. I feel if I'm going to get a pet, it'll probably be a bunny. Already got names picked out, Bun B and Pimp C. Although I think its.. strange to name your bunny rabbits after two Southern Gangster Rappers, they are just perfect pet names.

alucinor
May 21, 2003



Taco Defender

CharlesWillisMaddox posted:

Lurking this thread.. I feel if I'm going to get a pet, it'll probably be a bunny. Already got names picked out, Bun B and Pimp C. Although I think its.. strange to name your bunny rabbits after two Southern Gangster Rappers, they are just perfect pet names.

I'd urge you to think really carefully about this (the rabbits, not the names, those are fine). They aren't as easy and fun a pet as this thread makes them seem. Most people own their rabbits less than a year before giving them up. Look at all the rehoming posts in this thread alone.

If you want to give it a shot, I urge you to contact a local chapter of the House Rabbit Society and ask to become a foster home. There are thousands and thousands of rabbits in shelters and rescues right now, mostly surrendered because people no longer had time for them, or no longer had enough money to include pets in their budgets. The rescues are full to bursting and the average wait for a rabbit to get adopted is now over a year. :(

If you foster, you get all the benefit of rabbit adoption without making the final commitment immediately. Best of all, if you change your mind later, you've done so without adding to the population of homeless rabbits, and the rabbits you fostered at least had a good year or so in a home with one-on-one attention.

On a mostly unrelated note, I just had to bring four new rabbits into my Sanctuary. Neither pair has had a single adoption application, and the board finally voted that they're probably unadoptable and just clogging up foster space that we could use for more adoptable animals.



Bess & Bob are a pair of bonded rabbits who were adopted from our rescue in 2006 and returned in 2008 when the owner decided to re-marry her ex, who made it a condition of the marriage that there would not be pets in the house. :rolleyes: Bess is seven or eight, Bob is probably five to seven and has an aggressive liposarcoma in his dewlap. A large portion was removed but the remainder was so vascularized that the vet felt it needed to be left alone. He's probably got less than two years left. Bess is just obese and arthritic and fails at cleaning herself, she'll probably stick around for another four years or so just to spite me.



Wendy & BB are a pair of young, petite, adorable, blue-eyed sisters who we pulled from the local shelter last easter. They were probably bought as cuddly, sweet babies in late 2007, and dumped as soon as they developed their adult personalities. Despite being so physically desirable and adoptable, they have typical rabbit personalities - incredibly destructive, hate being picked up, not overly friendly beyond an occasional head scratch - and every person who has inquired about them has changed their mind after meeting them. I'm going to put them up on Petfinder just in case, but I expect I'll never find someone both rabbit-crazy and masochistic enough to adopt them.

I've had four rabbits pass away in the last year, but this brings my total of unadoptable rabbits back up to 11, and that's it, I'm full. We're not even going to be able to take in any more adoptable rabbits until some of these guys die, because me being full means there's no place for them to go if there's no adopters. :(

Bagleworm
Aug 15, 2007
I has your rocks

CharlesWillisMaddox posted:

Lurking this thread.. I feel if I'm going to get a pet, it'll probably be a bunny. Already got names picked out, Bun B and Pimp C. Although I think its.. strange to name your bunny rabbits after two Southern Gangster Rappers, they are just perfect pet names.

Someone asked a while back what the cons were of owing rabbits, and the general consensus was: everything. They're cute and fluffy but they're TERRIBLE pets and I can't believe we ever thought it was a good idea to domesticate them for that purpose. Whatever it is that makes you want a bunny, you will be able to find it in another animal that is much more easy to take care of and probably twenty times more affectionate.

That said, I don't regret having my bunnies, but having been through this I don't think I would recommend rabbits to anyone unless they were absolutely aware of this animal's temperament and behaviors and financial commitment.

If you decide that you can put up with a bitter, temperamental, expensive, territorial, messy, non-cuddly and destructive pet, all of us here strongly urge you to adopt a rabbit instead of buying from a pet store. Baby bunnies are cute, but with a fully grown and bonded pair you know exactly what their personality is when you get them, as well as them being litter trained and probably neutered already, AND you're helping to curb the demand for these animals... rabbits probably have the highest turnover rate of any other pet, there are always people looking to rehome their rabbits.

Baitu
Mar 6, 2008

Veggie Fiend

alucinor posted:

There are thousands and thousands of rabbits in shelters and rescues right now, mostly surrendered because people no longer had time for them, or no longer had enough money to include pets in their budgets.

I think pets probably suffer the most in recessions/depressions. It looks like a lot of shelters are bursting right now.

alucinor posted:

Despite being so physically desirable and adoptable, they have typical rabbit personalities - incredibly destructive, hate being picked up, not overly friendly beyond an occasional head scratch - and every person who has inquired about them has changed their mind after meeting them. I'm going to put them up on Petfinder just in case, but I expect I'll never find someone both rabbit-crazy and masochistic enough to adopt them.

There are some rabbits not like this? Still I find it worth it most days.

Deceptor101
Jul 7, 2007

What fun is a project if it doesn't at least slightly ruin your life?
I find mine worth it every day :). Annie always wants me to pet her, and if Ben is feeling brave enough he'll nuzzle with me. Sure a cat might do that too, but these guys have character!

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angelicism
Dec 1, 2004
mmmbop.

Baitu posted:

There are some rabbits not like this? Still I find it worth it most days.

Frith spoons with me sometimes! If I'm lying in bed and its his turn out (yes, the kids are still fighting enough that most of their playtimes are one-at-a-time :sigh: ), he might hop up, meatloaf... and then glide into a happy sprawl up against my side/thigh/all the way down by my calf so I have to rearrange him so I can actually reach.

I think the cutest (albeit a little omfg) thing Frith did was recently we had a beautiful day outside so I took the kids out one by one for a little extended run around time. Zen played happily, made faces at the passing squirrels, and made half-friends with a neighborhood dog (there are apparently a lot of bunnies in my apartment complex -- at least two people I've met around say they have bunnies, including the owner of this dog). Frith, however, would not budge from the place I set him, looking terrified and like the world was coming to an end. When I came over to pet him to try to relax him he tried to climb back into my arms. Awwww. Yeah, after 5 minutes I just brought him back inside. No use antagonizing him if he doesn't want to enjoy the weather.

But yeah. They're destructive, frustrating, crazy pets, and sometimes I really wish I'd gotten a cat. And then Zen licks my hand or Frith bowls me over with his whomping ~12 pound self and I'm in love. :)

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