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the posted:Look, the poo poo is totally sloppy. Only a fool would open up the way that you do. Nobody likes the records that you play, alright? It's just completely whack! Face it!
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Dance Move Burglar posted:The gently caress is wrong with my mix? It's completely whacked -- face it! Face it.
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Dance Move Burglar posted:The gently caress is wrong with my mix? You need more experience, alright? You need to work on your mixing more.
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isnemis posted:TheWevels mix? Seriously? I like it, can imagine driving along the coast in a convertible blasting that out and living out all my GTA vice city fantasies. me too!
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jonmitz posted:I'll start of this thread with a year-end mix I did for 2008. ok man im going to be critical about this but dont get me wrong, i have listened to the first hour and it was good in my opinion, but there are quite a few things you can improve on. will give you one or two examples the mix into 6am was verging on a good idea but the keys are horribly clashing to an almost cringeworthy point, id consider changing the key. the metaverse mix i seem to have a gripe with aswell, it only has a 16 bar intro and id reconsider bringing it in a bit later and just droppping it in when the main beat drops at the 17th bar Check out my mix of it a couple of pages back see what you think Loved the mix out but id consider checking your levels to make the vocals more prominent You have the creativity to become an amazing dj but your technique needs alot of work, keep posting your mixes on here, been enjoying this one so far oh yeah one more thing, the sound seems to get a bit grainy on my mp3 player, id consider recording it with the master volume a bit lower next time loved your choice of tracks too, been some of the biggest tunes of 2008 for me too ,guessing your a markus schulz fan While im here i might aswell post a short mix i did on wednesday at a club near where i live http://rapidshare.com/files/213865838/chris_w___the_bedroom_25_03_09.mp3 1.moussa clarke - she wants him (blake jarrells panty dropper mix) 2.the truth- headstrong 3.energy 52- cafe del mar (deadmau5 remix) 4.monogato - miami vibe 5.mr sam -cygnes 6.element one - guanacaste (matt zo remix) 7.heatbeat- paradise garage 8.lemon &einar- anticipation mr smiley fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Mar 30, 2009 |
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Mar 30, 2009 15:38
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mr smiley posted:the mix into 6am was verging on a good idea but the keys are horribly clashing to an almost cringeworthy point, id consider changing the key.
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mr smiley posted:ok man im going to be critical about this but dont get me wrong, i have listened to the first hour and it was good in my opinion, but there are quite a few things you can improve on. will give you one or two examples there is no way this is serious. FIrst of all I want to point out the mix is around 95% in key (I have the keys written down for all of my songs). As for my levels, as far as I'm concerned they are fine, in a five hour mix you're going to have a few blips here and there. I spent so much time in the past setting up everything on my computer's input (I use audio hijack pro in case anyone is interested - it basically has a 10x10 rack for effects and gains/eqs and other nice stuff), it also monitors both the RMS input and peak input, and it's set up so it never clips, so any "vocal" volume problems you've had were either with whatever equalizer you had set up on your mp3 (if you did), the fact that you use some lovely headphones or a lovely mp4 player, or the track itself wasn't mastered well enough for your golden ear. Once I'm done recording the mix I do some post processing to any other minor problems that I find. I honestly think you listened to my mix and tried to find a problem, so you did in your own mind. For the record I'm not a Markus fan - I'm going to assume that his year-end mix shared a lot of tracks with mine or something since you brought it up. I just want to point out that all these tracks were 100% selected by me, I don't use DJ charts or DJ mixes to choose my songs. quote:While im here i might aswell post a short mix i did on wednesday at a club near where i live First of all, just my reading the tracklist I can tell you this is something I wouldnt normally download, simply because half the tracks arent even from 2009 (by my count it is 5? - it could be higher, I'm not going to look all the tracks up). I can see that it is a liveset - so in the future you should try a but harder to make a competitive set (in (at least) two ways): 1. You average just over 6 minutes per song, which is absurd for a live set - in the future I'd recommend practicing mixing faster, and no, it isn't easy. In comparison most of my mixes are around 3-4 minutes per song so it doesn't ever drag on or get boring - for example that 5 hour mix you replied to is about 4 and a half minutes per song - in a 5 HOUR mix. 2. You simply need to play more new tracks. You can't say "well it's a liveset." It's okay to drop an old or a classic song every now and then, but when over half of the songs you're playing are old (and by old I don't mean classics (songs people would recognize) - they're simply just old tracks that arent especially groundbreaking or exciting) you're simply not doing your job as a DJ. Your mixing is really slow, and you don't really do anything interesting (only intro/outro mixing). When you only mix intros and ourtros it doesnt even matter if the tracks are in key. Your beatmatching is acceptable, not particularly good. That's about all I have to say - if you were a DJ in a club here I probably would have left the room not too long after you went on.
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jonmitz posted:there is no way this is serious. dont take critiquing very well, do ya buddy?
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Threatis posted:dont take critiquing very well, do ya buddy? I don't take bullshit well. Point out one good criticism he had. e: if anything this should stand as an example for others as to what is bad/unhelpful/  criticism (mr smiley) and what is good (my post)
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jonmitz posted:I don't take bullshit well. Point out one good criticism he had. he offered really valuable help, and you got all testy.
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I completely disagree with the idea that most of the tracks you play should be from the past year. I try to be as release date-blind with my mixes as I possibly can, although I'll definitely try to throw in a recently-released track that I think people might not have heard yet. Lots of people go to parties hoping to hear their favorite track and it's pretty likely that their favorite track is at least a year or two old. Also, there are a lot of tracks from the past that are very good but for whatever reason never really stuck in people's minds as a classic. It's pretty satisfying when someone says "Hey that track was awesome! Is it unreleased?" And you reply "No, in fact it's ten years old"
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why the gently caress does anyone put that much thought into it? here's what you do: - fill your crate with songs you like. - play them.
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Mar 30, 2009 20:58
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Threatis posted:why the gently caress does anyone put that much thought into it? forget it threatis, it's trance  Click here for the full 799x343 image.
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jonmitz posted:I don't take bullshit well. Point out one good criticism he had. hahahaha are you serious i don't necessarily agree with his criticism but dude chill out
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and you'll never get that opening spot for digweed with that kinda attitude!
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wait, caught a few more things here:jonmitz posted:there is no way this is serious. A. you use a 10x10 for mainroom trance, you master your mixes, you run post processing, then drop it to 128 kbps for download?? who's full of poo poo now? B. new tracks? really? thats your tightest complaint? lame. I didn't listen to either of your mixes to be honest, because i find that type of music a giant loving snorefest, but "new" doesn't seem to mean "different" in either of your respective genre's. C. dude, you're giving him poo poo as a dj for mixing? and only after the fact that he gave you a bit of poo poo? sooooouuuurrrr grapes. i do some mixes that only last 30 seconds and i slap out of them, i still don't think that makes someone a bad dj. Not everyone has gotta rinse it out for 15 loving minutes. D. Lastly:  Stay classy Jonmitz.
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this argument should really end immediately edit: jonmitz was acting like an idiot but c'mon, this thread gets derailed often enough as it is Vernacular fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Mar 31, 2009 |
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ahahahahahaha oh man edit: yes end it now before someone gets hurt! Quincy Smallvoice fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Mar 31, 2009 |
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Here's my mix I did on the college radio station earlier this month. http://www.zshare.net/audio/57949914bf714101/ Ace Ventura vs Lish - The Light (Bluetech's Dancing in the Shadow Remix) Kuba - Let Go Astrix - Touched Shulman - Mia Nihta Mono Den Ftan Shpongle - Molecular Superstructure Younger Brother - Scanner Life Force - Dreamland (Jak Jaxon Tech Remix) Duckbeats - Modern House is Rubbish Yankee Zulu - Bullfrog (Original Mix) Trentemoller - African People Ace Ventura - R.I.S.E. (Rocky Remix) Vibrasphere - Vertical Shpongle - Divine Moments of Truth (Remix) E: link fixed Ben and Stew fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Mar 31, 2009 |
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Vernacular posted:this argument should really end immediately I wouldn't mind an explanation of who he goes through all that trouble, then drops it to a poo poo quality level.
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I wasn't going to reply since I made my point, but I'll answer Threatis's question since he seems so excited to hear itThreatis posted:I wouldn't mind an explanation of who he goes through all that trouble, then drops it to a poo poo quality level. jonmitz posted:it basically has a 10x10 rack for effects and gains/eqs and other nice stuff), it also monitors both the RMS input and peak input, and it's set up so it never clips Go ahead and point out where I said I use it for quality. also it's not too much trouble to click the mouse a few times and adjust some gains so they match up with your mixer To answer the second part of your question, I definitely dont "master" my mixes, whatever the gently caress that means (I don't know where you got that from - mastering isn't for a dj mix). And I'm not going to go into what I do post processing because it isn't important and it's really only for myself - things you wouldn't notice even if I didn't change them. quote:D. Lastly: quote:why the gently caress does anyone put that much thought into it? A DJ maser has been arisen by god himself  you have an extremely pretentious attitude about mixing, and music in general. stay classy, threatis this is over now, don't poo poo up the thread any more. if you still want to be a moron feel free to send me a PM
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Ben and Stew posted:Here's my mix I did on the college radio station earlier this month. Can you upload it again? the link doesn't work for me - it just redirects to the main page vv it's over, no more posts please vv mitztronic fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Mar 31, 2009 |
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Mar 31, 2009 19:38
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 Guys, cut it out, let's all have a big plur hug
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Threatis posted:A. you use a 10x10 for mainroom trance, you master your mixes, you run post processing, then drop it to 128 kbps for download?? who's full of poo poo now? There's a filesize limit because I'm hosting other DJs. Bandwidth ain't cheap!
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lol @ dis Also, if anyone cares, I'm a lazy lazy man and haven't made a mix in a while but as soon as my Xone:22 comes out I'll do another one full of delicious new tracks EDIT: I'm actually not sure if it's out yet or not! This needs some investigation...
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Altoidss posted:Also, if anyone cares, I'm a lazy lazy man and haven't made a mix in a while but as soon as my Xone:22 comes out I'll do another one full of delicious new tracks Let me know how that mixer is, looks really nice. I love the xone filters, but the bigger models just cost too much
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jonmitz posted:you have an extremely pretentious attitude about mixing, and music in general. stay classy, threatis If you wanna drop it, that's all good and I'm sorry, but couldn't we have a place for DJs to shoot the poo poo and discuss the craft bluntly AND have their mixes ignored? I mean, there are people with wildly different DJing philosophies, and I see people say stuff in here that is out of control and just does not vibe with my attitude towards music at all. Can't we dialogue about poo poo like that? And I feel you and other people if they don't feel like this is the place for harsh crits or big differences in opinion. I definitely see how that could stifle the gently caress out of this thread, but it can't JUST be a place for us to pat eachother on the back, right?
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jonmitz posted:Can you upload it again? the link doesn't work for me - it just redirects to the main page Ok fixed the link in the OP
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ManoliIsFat posted:And I feel you and other people if they don't feel like this is the place for harsh crits or big differences in opinion. I definitely see how that could stifle the gently caress out of this thread, but it can't JUST be a place for us to pat eachother on the back, right? I think anyone who uploads their mix to the internet should be prepared to be harshly criticized. That counts for me as much as everyone else. If we turn this into a circlejerk instead of honest criticism it will be bad for all of us as DJs.
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jonmitz i was going to break down your poo poo storm of bitter ranting into a point by point analysis but im just going to rise above it, i didnt post here to start arguing i just wanted to have some discussions with some more experienced djs and maybe get some advice. Its safe to say i wont be taking any of yours and all i can say is i hope you treat club owners with a bit more respect than you do your fellow djs or your career will be a very short one I know my mixing is very stop/pitch/start but this was my first ever live show so thanks for the boost in confidence. oh and one thing quote:
i never insinuated you did, i just noticed youd chosen alot of songs that have appeared in his sets over the past year and thought you might be a fan. You have some serious issues with your conversational skills mate
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Dance Move Burglar posted:
PLUR! Now theres a term that needs resurrection!
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:PLUR! 
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Here's a rough draft of what will eventually be one of my psytrance demos. I just installed mixmeister and holy god is this fun and easy to use. The best part is that I think it's even feasible to do real-time sets with since you can edit the arrangement and automation while it's playing. Shiranui - Morning mix first draft Length: 0:46:52 Quality: 192 kbps Size: 64 Megabytes Software used: Mixmeister http://soda.berkeley.edu/~rfm/morning.mp3 Tracklist: 1. Son Kite - Game & Watch 2. Plasmotek - Bubble Boy 3. Goe vs Enertopia - Jupiter Beach 4. Astral Projection - Nilaya (Melicia remix) 5. Artifact 303 - Energy Waves (Positive mix) 6. Astrix - Techno Widows 7. Ajja - Peripheral Visions 8. Mumbo Jumbo - Weird, Sick and Twisted (Cosmosis mix) Starts with some very uplifting progressive and some "gently caress yeah" fullon, then halfway through switches to deeper psychedelic stuff. The final version of this mix will have a couple more tracks at the beginning (notice the key clash between the first two tracks--I want to start with the son kite track but I'll need some more tracks between it and the next one), as well as a track that I wanted to put on the end but need to find a better copy of (I currently only have a crappy vinyl rip of it). I like how the mix sounds, but what do you guys think? Does it flow well?
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Dance Move Burglar posted:You can only ressurect things that died look around kid
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:look around kid
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Fatboy Slim posted:Drop the hate! Forgive each other! It's been too long since I posted a mix. Here's one I did for an 2009 East Coast Music Awards (ECMA) Radio segment called "Sound art? Sounds eclectic..." back in February. It's just under a half-hour, and it's the "polished" version (meaning they didn't record and host the live mix I did on-air, but instead used the backup CD mix I recorded beforehand). Oh well, you still get the basic idea (minus a lot of the effects I improvised while on air). DJ Dain - "Sound art? Sounds eclectic..." Live Set. Feb. 24, 2009 ECMA Radio 100.1 FM Genre(s)/Style(s): Mash-up/Electro Length: 0:25:41 Quality: 320 kbps Size: 63.8 Megabytes Software used: Ableton Live 7 Download Link Tracklist: 1. DJ Dain - Hustlin Baba O'Reilly (The Who & SebastiAn vs. Rick Ross) 2. DJ Dain - Stand Up for the Poor (One More Time) (Daft Punk & Laidback Luke vs. Ludacris vs. M.I.A.) 3. DJ Dain - Dirrty Ghosts Get The Party Started (Deadmau5 vs. Christina Aguilera & Method Man vs. Pink) 4. DJ Dain - Sometimes We Let It Rock (Les Rhythmes Digitales & Computer Club vs. Kevin Rudolf ft. Lil Wayne) 5. DJ Dain vs. Soulwax(?) - Eleanor Rigby's Dance Tour (The Beatles vs. Kraftwerk vs. Lady Gaga Feat. Colby O'Donis)
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:look around kid I am a kid but PLUR sure doesn't seem dead to me, it just looks like this now. Second, I am (secretly) a huge psytrance fan so thanks for that mix dmb Third, I have looked around all day and I still have no idea if the Xone:22 is released yet or not... and if so where I can buy one in LA? Turntable Lab and Guitar Center both don't stock em, and those are the only places I really know to look.
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Altoidss posted:Second, I am (secretly) a huge psytrance fan so thanks for that mix dmb
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Altoidss posted:Third, I have looked around all day and I still have no idea if the Xone:22 is released yet or not... and if so where I can buy one in LA? Turntable Lab and Guitar Center both don't stock em, and those are the only places I really know to look. American Music & Sound 5304 Derry Avenue #C Agoura Hills, CA 91301 tel: 800-431-2609 e: they are the only authorized distributer in the US apparently
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I'm doing an internet radio show tonight, 7pm PST http://www.sosimplerecords.com/ssss.php techno n house, house n techno I'll try and have some kind of live link to send requests and comments as it comes up.
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