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kdc67 posted:Alright already what's your name on the GSR? You seem to have an.. interesting perspective on them. A lot of people "sign" their posts there. One guy signed his post by typing and had his name in the added signature in addition to his obvious username. Well, this is what it's like browsing any forum that isn't SA.
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quote:There's really two sizes of GS. The GStwins: 250, 300, 400, 425, 450, 500. And the four cylinder bikes: GS550, 650, 750, 850, 1000, 1100, and 1150. I'll drag out the bikes this weekend for comparison shots. Honda has a similar situation. Their parallel twin bikes are about the same size as the GS twins. And their 4 cylinder bikes are much larger. I think kawasaki's twins are larger. Okay, the guy on eBay with the GS450 can't store it for me until I move in May. Unforunately, the auction closes Sunday night, but were it Sunday during the day I'd be able to go pick it up since I have a meeting in DC on Monday and fly in Sunday. But I don't want to get out at 5PM on Mon-Wed, and try to dash three hours up to him, get the bike, and ride an unfamiliar bike back to DC on an unfamiliar route in the dark with a meeting the next morning. It'd all just be too complicated. On the bright side, I think all this advice has given me a pretty good idea of what I'm looking for -UJM twin from Kawasaki or Honda, so GS/CB 350/400/440/450/500 I figure if I keep my eye out for one a week or two before I move, I should be able to find a decent one on CL or eBay. Plus even if it doesn't pan out immediately, there are tons of Tomos mopeds on DC/NoVA CL, so I can probably get a 'ped to sooth my itch for a few weeks, and then once I get the biek I'll have my choice of rides daily.
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Mar 27, 2009 20:01
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^^TTFA: I'm living in DC until the end of July--when are you moving? Checking out a Ninja 500: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/1094700029.html Looks pretty good. It's priced below blue book value. Emailed the guy asking for some background on the bike. I'll probably go look at it this weekend after I go pick up a helmet, jacket, and pants (already have boots and gloves).
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Mar 27, 2009 20:40
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Iniquitous posted:Checking out a Ninja 500: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/1094700029.html Ask him if its gotten its 20k mile maintenance because if I remember correctly, it cost me a couple hundred bucks because they check your valves and everything like that. I'd bet this time of year he probably only got a few offers around 1500 for it, so I'd try and play alittle hardball with him. If it hasn't had its 20k mile maintenance yet then I personally wouldn't pay more than 1800 for it to even out the price. But I'm a cheap rear end.
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Mar 27, 2009 20:44
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Simkin posted:Oh, look, it's a GS450. I wonder if you can still find parts for that...
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Mar 27, 2009 20:58
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Trintintin posted:Ask him if its gotten its 20k mile maintenance because if I remember correctly, it cost me a couple hundred bucks because they check your valves and everything like that. Same price, different color, lower mileage, looks like it's been laid down once.
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Mar 27, 2009 21:19
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Nerobro posted:The GS's all have most of the parts still available. Yes, you can get parts for that 450. The GR650 was the testbed for the GSXR motors. Yes, suzuki used a cruiser to test all the technology for the new GSXR. Oh, come on Nerobro, don't tell me that your sarcasm detector is that broken. I honestly had no idea about the GR, though. TTFA, what do you have against that bike? It fits your needs, looks to be in really nice shape, and won't involve you driving 3 hours to pick it up...
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Mar 27, 2009 23:54
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kdc67 posted:Alright already what's your name on the GSR? You seem to have an.. interesting perspective on them. A lot of people "sign" their posts there. Define interesting perspective? Are you referring to GSR or GS's in general? I know a lot of people sign their names over there, but man BassCliffs is over the top!
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CoolBlue posted:Define interesting perspective? Are you referring to GSR or GS's in general? I know a lot of people sign their names over there, but man BassCliffs is over the top! Thank you for your indulgence, for your upmost concentration whereupon you found my post, where you disregarded other personal responsibilities to scavenge such information that I have brought forth, for your comprehensive reading of thyn post, and for your upmost dedication to the further studies of GS's alike BassCliff In all seriousness, GSR rocks. I reposted a couple threads on stuff I wasn't 100% sure of in my own thread here just to get some different answers from some other people familiar with the bike (I trust you guys I swear!) and they've usually been really helpful. Edit: And the signature/avatar thing isn't really that much different than a lot of other forums. Plus they seem really mature there. Definite asset if you have a GS. MrZig fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Mar 28, 2009 |
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Mar 28, 2009 01:12
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The only thing that drives me nuts about the GSR is if I'm logged in the posts go backwards (most recent first, down to OP). I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or it's supposed to be like this but it drives me nuts. The avatars and signing of posts I can forgive. It's not SA, but it's not nearly as bad as a lot of other sites.
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Mar 28, 2009 03:58
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Bugdrvr posted:The only thing that drives me nuts about the GSR is if I'm logged in the posts go backwards (most recent first, down to OP). I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or it's supposed to be like this but it drives me nuts. I had that too. Go to your user CP options and under "Thread Display Mode" change it to "Linear - Show oldest first"
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Mar 28, 2009 04:14
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AH! Excellent! That did the trick.
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Mar 28, 2009 04:25
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Nerobro posted:UJM's became todays sportbikes, sport tourers, and cruisers. The whole breed took two different paths. One half went chasing harley, the other half went chasing corners. Thats what makes them so interesting. The Japanese were really trying hard to create a supremely capable bike that would be at home in twisties and still be comfortable for cruising. My recent experience riding my KZ650 now that its finished is that they did a really good job of this depending on the model.
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Mar 28, 2009 05:32
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8ender posted:Thats what makes them so interesting. The Japanese were really trying hard to create a supremely capable bike that would be at home in twisties and still be comfortable for cruising. My recent experience riding my KZ650 now that its finished is that they did a really good job of this depending on the model. Yeah, I just don't dig cruisers, partially because they're so popular currently. And not really into sporters since I don't care for the look, and the posture seems less comfortable and with less ability to enjoy the view and keep an eye on traffic. That said, naked sporters (or whatever) like cafe racers or the Thruxton are pretty awesome. If I find a good deal on a cafe racer type bike, I'll be tempted, but otherwise will be keeping an eye out for a UJM. EDIT: Well, here's a UJM gone caff:  CB550, but that guy's 6'3", so I imagine it'd fit me better. EDIT: Alternately I could keep my motorbike plain UJM, and just cafe-up the moped I intend to buy: 
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Mar 28, 2009 05:59
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Nerobro posted:63,000 miles isn't a lot of miles for a GS. Not even ballpark "a lot." I got my 1980 GS550E with 60k+ on it, and it didn't even need swingarm or wheel bearings yet. If you or anyone cares: Today I went to the guy's house to ask about the bike. It's bigger than I expected, and I liked the way it fit me. It started beautifully and ran like a mother. However, neither the tach or speedo worked, and the wheels have only this summer left on them. The paint around the gas cap was flush but flaked, not very pretty, but nothing I'd cry home about, as it's my first bike. The bike appears spotless aside from what I mentioned, and he will fix both the tach and sped if I'm willing to pay him $1100 rather than the $990 I offered. Frankly, the bike is gorgeous and just what I want. I'm looking for nay-sayers at this point. Tell me how bad I suck. edit: the bike in question: http://greenbay.craigslist.org/mcy/1090684886.html DiscoKid fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Mar 28, 2009 |
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Mar 28, 2009 07:15
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Y I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry, so I'll do both and report back later.
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Mar 28, 2009 07:45
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Simkin posted:Oh, come on Nerobro, don't tell me that your sarcasm detector is that broken. MrZig posted:In all seriousness, GSR rocks. I reposted a couple threads on stuff I wasn't 100% sure of in my own thread here just to get some different answers from some other people familiar with the bike (I trust you guys I swear!) and they've usually been really helpful. That's where I learned all my stuff. My entire foothold in motorcycles was due to people on that forum. FirstTimer, EarlFor, JoeNardy... They showed me the ropes. I'm yet to meet someone from the forum that gives me the willies. TapTheForwardAssist posted:EDIT: Alternately I could keep my motorbike plain UJM, and just cafe-up the moped I intend to buy: First off, UJM is an insulting term for a Japanese standard. EVERYTHING was a standard if you go back far enough. To take a Japanese bike and make it into a cafe racer is 100% kosher. To take a Japanese standard and make it a chopper is just as kosher. UJM is just to specific for what you're trying to say. Second, that cafe job done to the moped is terrible. Get clip ons, or cafe bars. Don't half rear end it by turning a standard set of bars upside down. When you see stuff like that you're bound to find things like bubble gum wrappers in the fuse holder. You're better than that. DiscoKid posted:GS1000, first bike... collectable bike... I'm not saying you suck. But you will screw up. You will hurt the bike, and yourself. http://appleton.craigslist.org/mcy/1075430974.html This is a GS550L. But hte owner put on less obnoxious handlebars. 49hp, 110mph.... It's very close to what I learned on. It's also only 480lbs, instead of 630.
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Mar 28, 2009 08:11
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Weren't a shitton of drag bikes based off of the engine from the GS1000, or is that the 1100?
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Mar 28, 2009 08:38
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Yes. And yes. They're the same motor. The GS1000/1100 bottom end is still the basis of many drag bikes.
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Mar 28, 2009 08:49
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Funny, you'd think newer, larger displacement engines would have superseded them by now. Is it just that they're a known quantity, or are they still pretty much the most solid engine to build power out of?
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Mar 28, 2009 08:52
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CoolBlue posted:Define interesting perspective? Are you referring to GSR or GS's in general? I know a lot of people sign their names over there, but man BassCliffs is over the top! To the GSR. I believe you made some remark about they can be complete tools. I'm not really sure who you've been talking to there.  Everyone I've talked to and met (including BassCliff) has been cool, hospitable, and so very friendly to each other. You still didn't answer what your name is there.To get back to the thread.. DiscoKid posted:The bike appears spotless aside from what I mentioned, and he will fix both the tach and sped if I'm willing to pay him $1100 rather than the $990 I offered. Edit: I just realized this is going to be your first bike. Listen to Nero. kdc67 fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Mar 28, 2009 |
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Mar 28, 2009 09:03
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Simkin posted:Funny, you'd think newer, larger displacement engines would have superseded them by now. Is it just that they're a known quantity, or are they still pretty much the most solid engine to build power out of? The parts are easily available to build them up, IIRC Wiseco makes a 1300cc kit for that motor. Not that many Japanese MC engines have that kind of support and following. If you want bike motorcycle power you grab the GS1000 engine, the Wiseco catalog, say good bye to your fiscal responsibility and hole up in the garage for the winter. You don't have to be the pioneer, which saves a lot of time and money. edit-I looked it up, you can sleeve a 84-86 GS1100 engine to 1600cc. Try doing that to a wimpy Honda! Gnomad fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 28, 2009 |
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Mar 28, 2009 16:41
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Simkin posted:Funny, you'd think newer, larger displacement engines would have superseded them by now. Is it just that they're a known quantity, or are they still pretty much the most solid engine to build power out of? Just to add to what Gnomad is saying: They're massively overbuilt, just like a lot of Japanese bikes from around that time.
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Simkin posted:Funny, you'd think newer, larger displacement engines would have superseded them by now. Is it just that they're a known quantity, or are they still pretty much the most solid engine to build power out of? The cranks are virtually indestructible. The gearboxes need just minor undercutting to handle whatever power levels you want. The clutches are big enough for a small car. The crankcases don't fail unless a rod breaks. The Hayabusa is on the same level, strength wise. Most newer bikes have TINY clutches. Just big enough to handle stock power. They have gears designed to be JUST strong enough. They have crank spacing JUST wide enough to accomadate the stock pistons. All of that makes for smaller, lighter motors. Basicly, the GS1000/1100/1150 bottom ends have lots of room to gently caress around. They're wildly overbuilt. They're strong. They're big. They're heavy. And they're easy to work on.
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Wouldn't it just be easier to try to swap in a much larger displacement engine, and then build power from that? Turbo goldwing motor in a small frame? 
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Simkin posted:Wouldn't it just be easier to try to swap in a much larger displacement engine, and then build power from that? Turbo goldwing motor in a small frame?
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Mar 29, 2009 09:14
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I think Chrysler won that game.  But seriously, what about something already ginormous and powerful, like the V-max engine?
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I am a new rider with no experience and am looking for a bike. I have scoured the used market, forums, ads and everything but it seems the used market contains no Ninjas, Sv's, Katanas or any of the usual stater bikes recommend by this forum. This leaves me considering a 600 super sport of some kind, which are plentiful, or a CBR 125. I am looking for opinions on these options, I am leaning toward the 125 but I think it will be very underwhelming but I do not want a 100+hp bike as I know I will end up in trouble. Any other options I should be considering or any opinions on what to buy?
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Mar 29, 2009 19:47
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Where do you live? We can help you search.
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Mar 29, 2009 19:55
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kdc67 posted:Where do you live? We can help you search. Winnipeg, sorry.
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drat, just had a quick boo through the winnipeg CL, and it is pretty spartan. Not much other than snowmobiles, dirtbikes, cruisers, and the odd supersport. Oh, and this. http://winnipeg.en.craigslist.ca/mcy/1072660257.html It seems like most of the free classified stuff is being run through usedwinnipeg.com instead of CL, so give that a shot. I found this on there, but some people in here may consider it too much for a learner (which it probably is). http://www.usedwinnipeg.com/classified-ad/6478077 Edit: Yes, we accept your apology for winnipeg. We're sorry for it as well.
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So I bid on that GS450 on eBay Motors, since it was still really low ($560). I bid something like $1700, since that's slightly more than I can sell my current CB250 for, and because that GS is about exactly what I want. So I bid that, it met Reserve, but I was barely ahead of some other bidder. Like 20min later the seller calls me and says "Whoops, sorry about that, but this guy came by my house and offered cash on the spot for it, so I sold it to him. I went back to my computer and saw that you'd just bid and met Reserve (obligating him to sell it to me), so can you retract your bid so I can cancel the auction?" I thought that was a pretty dick move on his part, but I'm about to head out the door a business trip, and didn't feel like loving around with the issue. And I would feel better about buying a CB or GS if I can check it out in person first, so I'll just keep an eye on the market as I get closer to moving to DC in mid-May.
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Simkin posted:drat, just had a quick boo through the winnipeg CL, and it is pretty spartan. Not much other than snowmobiles, dirtbikes, cruisers, and the odd supersport. Oh, and this. I hadn't seen that Suzuki, it looks not bad I will have to take a look into it. Thanks.
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^^ You're welcome. Go check this out, if only to appease the seller: http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1097486324.html quote:I AM GOING TO LOWER THE PRICE $50 EVERYDAY UNTILL THE PRICE IS SO LOW THAT IT WILL BE MORE FUN TO SET IT ON FIRE AND DANCE AROUND IT THAN SELL IT. Seriously, though, it looks more or less like what you were looking for. Small(ish) UJM, 4-500cc, no mechanical gremlins, and local. Also, that GR650 is still for sale. No interest in it? http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1085388540.html Simkin fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Mar 29, 2009 |
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Simkin posted:Go check this out, if only to appease the seller: Right, but the problem is I'm in Austin now and already have a bike, and am moving to DC in May, where I do not have a bike. Buying a second bike in Austin isn't going to help anything. If I found a bike in Austin that was exactly what I wanted I might consider getting it crated and shipped, since I can fit it into my moving budget my company is giving me. I own almost nothing and they gave me a reimbursable expense allotment I can't possibly use up, so I could conceivably blow $700 or whatever of that on mailing a bike to DC, since it's not my money anyway. That said, not into cruisers, so I'll keep looking for a standard.
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Don't forget to check Kijiji for Winnipeg. Canadians love Kijiji for some reason: Heres a nice one: http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-1982-Honda-Nighthawk-650-W0QQAdIdZ116196516 Okay horsepower for an old 650, not too heavy, and it was the last year of the SOHC engines I believe. They were pretty solid engines. 8ender fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Mar 29, 2009 |
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Mar 29, 2009 20:34
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:So I bid on that GS450 on eBay Motors, since it was still really low ($560). I bid something like $1700, since that's slightly more than I can sell my current CB250 for, and because that GS is about exactly what I want. That's the shadiest loving poo poo ever. Still, there's not much you can do about it, so maybe just call him an idiot and retract your bid? I'm gonna laugh if the other guy's bid is over his reserve.
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Z3n posted:That's the shadiest loving poo poo ever. Still, there's not much you can do about it, so maybe just call him an idiot and retract your bid? I'm gonna laugh if the other guy's bid is over his reserve. ...not only that, I got outbid by another guy right at the end, so now he has to deal with an actual completed auction for $1800, which means eBay automatically deducted their cut as soon as it closed, etc. In fairness, at least on gun auctions (on other sites) it's not uncommon to see "I'm selling this at my shop, so reserve the right to end this auction if it sells in-store first." However, this guy never mentioned that he was selling it on CL or whatever additionally, and if the in-person buyer found him and messaged him on eBay it's kinda shady to cut eBay out of the deal to save closing fees. In any case, his problem not mine. Now I just need to be watching for a GS400/450/500 or CB400/450/500 in the DC area around early May. Plus there are tons of Tomos mopeds on DC Craiglist these days, so I'll probably get one of those to zip around on locally as well.
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Well, I picked up my first bike after reading this thread from start to finish. 1996, 59XX miles, clean as could be. 
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Nice! Another GSer. Welcome to the fold.
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