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Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Well, I hate to derail this thread any further with political stuff - but the way I've chosen to deal with it is basically to try to get the word out, like I'm doing here. I've had a few PMs from people who didn't know before and now they do. The lack of information on these practices with other companies doesn't change the fact that when we do have the information, our actions become imbued with more moral weight. One can be fooled, but when ignorance isn't a factor, one is either complicit or not, if you understand what I mean.

And, like I said, since last year I've been paying attention to where I buy from. It isn't as hard as you'd think, the big problem as I remarked is the inability to avoid China. Even excusing business practices which the U.S. and others largely require in order to continue funding China's economy (after all, it wouldn't be nearly as competitive if they had to clean up their environmental practices, etc.)... its history of human rights abuses, outright suppression of information, corruption, labor oppression, etc. make the whole effort a real problem if you can't control for that factor. And on top of that China has the world's second highest prison population, between 300 and 700 people for every 100,000. So a product incorporating Chinese electronics is tough to justify if you're going to try to make purchasing decisions based on some kind of ethical framework.

Oh, but the highest being the U.S. with greater than 700 people for every 100,000, and lately we haven't exactly been moral heroes on the world stage either, so Made In The U.S.A. is better for some reasons, but by no means for all.

Ethics is hard, no doubt about it, I understand why most people just try not too worry too much about it. It's a big game of shoots and ladders made hugely more complex and with drastic implications for our lives and the lives of others. If it was easy everyone would do it.

Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 29, 2009

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Bathos
Sep 20, 2004

ZombiePeanut posted:

So anyway, gear trades. I've still got a little big muff that I never use. I want an EQ pedal or a fuzz I like better (like the cool cat fuzz... speaking of dano). I also need a set of grover standard rotomatics if someone has those lying around.

I've got a DOD FX40B EQ in like new condition with the box and manual if you've still got that Little Big Muff sitting around.

pennywisdom
Mar 21, 2004

Anyone have a strat they want to get rid of?

Fauxshiz
Jan 3, 2007
Jumbo Sized

pennywisdom posted:

Anyone have a strat they want to get rid of?

You've got mail, sir.

For anyone else that is interested:


I've also got a Line 6 Spider 3 75watt that I'd like to upgrade to something that has at least 2 12s in the back and responds well to pedals. I'm willing to trade the amp plus some cash.

Fauxshiz fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Mar 30, 2009

Nelsocracy
Nov 25, 2004
Indubitably!

Nelsocracy posted:

I've got a used Dunlop Jimi Hendrix wah, Boss OD-3 overdrive pedal, and Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9. The OD-3 looks brand new - the wah and tube screamer have some signs of use but all work 100%. Will entertain any trades.

Sorry, didn't include any values in my first post. I paid about 100 for the Tube Screamer and boss pedal, 80 for the Wah so I suppose about 60% that value would be entertained, i'm more interested in trades than money though.

grahm
Oct 17, 2005
taxes :(
Just wanted to make the world aware that I'm selling some Sabian HHX Evolution cymbals for pretty dang cheap over in SAmart: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3037854.

DrChu
May 14, 2002

This will probably be limited in its appeal because I do not want to ship these, but I am trying to get rid of an G&L L-2000 bass and a Michael Kelly Patriot guitar:

L-2000
Patriot

ZombiePeanut
May 11, 2007

by Fistgrrl

Bathos posted:

I've got a DOD FX40B EQ in like new condition with the box and manual if you've still got that Little Big Muff sitting around.

I can't really find too much info about that pedal. Is it true bypass?

Also email me at zombiepeanut@sbcglobal.net

Rashomon
Jun 21, 2006

This machine kills fascists

pennywisdom posted:

Anyone have a strat they want to get rid of?

I like but could be persuaded to part with my strat if the offer was right.



edit: or if you wanted a really cheap strat that is built from mostly Squier and GFS parts but sounds pretty good, that I refinished with a matching headstock (and a Fender logo):


Rashomon fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 30, 2009

Bathos
Sep 20, 2004

ZombiePeanut posted:

I can't really find too much info about that pedal. Is it true bypass?

Also email me at zombiepeanut@sbcglobal.net

Sent you a mail.

For Loop
Apr 12, 2005
The Word on the Street.

DrChu posted:

This will probably be limited in its appeal because I do not want to ship these, but I am trying to get rid of an G&L L-2000 bass and a Michael Kelly Patriot guitar:

L-2000
Patriot

love those michael kelley's. they're one of the few builders that make non-standard designs that I really like.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

DrChu posted:

This will probably be limited in its appeal because I do not want to ship these, but I am trying to get rid of an G&L L-2000 bass and a Michael Kelly Patriot guitar:

L-2000
Patriot

Dammit... I'd love a G&L. Just out of curiosity, how much are you asking?

edit: nm, checked the link. drat good price. Wish I could spring for it :(

DrChu
May 14, 2002

MasterWerk posted:

love those michael kelley's. they're one of the few builders that make non-standard designs that I really like.
I don't know if this is really a non-standard design, its pretty much just a Les Paul with a slightly curved upper bout. I do really like how it plays. The low-profile neck joint makes upper fret access very easy, and while I prefer the clean tones on my Strat to this, for overdriven/distorted sounds I like this a bit better. If it doesn't sell I won't be too broken up about it.

Scarf posted:

Dammit... I'd love a G&L. Just out of curiosity, how much are you asking?

edit: nm, checked the link. drat good price. Wish I could spring for it :(
Its a decent bass, but I just have too much stuff and never really got to bond with it. Those MFD pickups are great though.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

MasterWerk posted:

love those michael kelley's. they're one of the few builders that make non-standard designs that I really like.

Yeah; I'm really in love with the look of that Patriot. Am I right in seeing that it's a very dark purple, or is that just the picture?

For Loop
Apr 12, 2005
The Word on the Street.

DrChu posted:

I don't know if this is really a non-standard design, its pretty much just a Les Paul with a slightly curved upper bout.

they're not, like, bc rich crazy, but they're not aping the les paul design wholesale like some of the esp's or agiles. they're at least doing something that looks somewhat distinct. either way, i wants.

DrChu
May 14, 2002

Hubis posted:

Am I right in seeing that it's a very dark purple, or is that just the picture?
In natural light it looks like a black stain, but with incandescent lights or flashes, its gets a little purple.

Groggie
Aug 4, 2004
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Would anyone be interested in trading their Tele for my Strat?

I've got a Peavey Raptor Plus EXP in transparent red in fantastic condition, and I'm looking for a Telecastor in a "Butterscotch Blonde" finish (or close to it).


Click here for the full 480x640 image.


I suppose I'd be willing to sell, but I'd prefer a trade.

Catastrophe
Oct 5, 2007

Committed to burn twice as long and half as bright
Scarf, you get that Fuzz Factory ok?

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

Couple of things I wouldn't mind trading in for other... things.

* Pair of GFS Little Puncher Tele pickups. The neck is the XL width, which is needed for string spacing wider than 2 1/16". The regular width didn't work out on my MIM. About 6" of lead on the bridge and 12" on the neck. These are the "Modern Vintage" version.

* Alesis SR-16 Drum Machine with power adapter. Has stereo two sets of stereo outputs and a bunch of other features.

* Gibson Pickups - These came from my '97 Doublecut and have no markings on them, but I believe that they are a 490R and a 498T. Both with chrome or nickel tops. These have a metal braided grounding wire, and there isn't that much lead on them. Probably about 5"/8" ground/hot wire on the bridge and 9"/14" on the neck.

* M-Audio Firewire Audiophile 2496 audio interface. Powered by the Firewire bus (which is good because I don't have the power adapter), 2 analog ins, 4 analog outs, MIDI in/out, S/PDIF in/out, and a headphone jack on the front. A great little interface for recording solo music or digitizing records and tapes. The last version of the Mac drivers I used were actually pretty decent and I was using this right up until last month when my iBook died, taking the last working Firewire port in our house with it.

Stuff I'm looking for: Specifically, I'm looking for a hardshell PRS/Ibanez/generic style guitar case, a decent guitar strap, and I can always use more good instrument cables.

an AOL chatroom fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Apr 5, 2009

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Alright, time to fully divest from Dan-o.

Up for sale or trade, along with what they cost me when I bought them before any taxes or shipping.

A Cool Cat Package, all cool cat pedals first gen:

Cool Cat Distortion, cost me $40
Cool Cat Metal-I, cost me $40
Cool Cat Metal-II, cost me $30
Cool Cat Chorus, cost me $50
Cool Cat Pedalboard, cost me $80
And to fill out the 5-space, 5-daisy chain pedalboard,
Fish n' Chips EQ, cost me $30.

Total cost to me for these was $270. I am not looking to get $270 out of them, obviously, but I would like to recoup a fair amount. I'm asking $168 or best offer, cash or trade. All of them except the EQ come in the original packaging with docs intact, and all of them are in superb condition as I really take care of my stuff. The pedalboard fits all of the Cool Cats and the FAB pedals as well. The small food series pedals do not clip down (that includes the Fish n' Chips), but when the pedalboard is closed they do not move around, so it's pretty much just as good. The pedalboard includes the cabling, both audio and power, as well as the adapter that provides the power in the first place. I'd prefer not to part these out, as they form a very solid foundation for someone's sound and the enclosure houses and powers all of them; take any part of the equation out and it's just less useful, in my opinion, but together it's a whole new perspective on tone at what I think is a reasonable price.



The now discontinued Danelectro Wasabi Overdrive, cost me around $40 last go around at Mf. These were normally much more expensive but MusiciansFriend had a round of sales and these came up on clearance a couple times and I bought one each time. This is one of my favorite overdrives and I will be genuinely sorry to see it go but it is a sign of my irresponsibility. I won't ask to profit from it, either, just looking to get close to what I paid for it: $37.

Also discontinued Danelectro Wasabi Distortion, I traded for this one and I don't remember how much it cost. Looking for $48 out of it, or best offer.

I'll let the Wasabi OD and Wasabi Distortion go together for $76. The pair makes an extremely interesting combination with a wide range of sounds. I don't like seeing them go but it's something I've got to do.



Danelectro DD-1 Fab Tone Distortion, which cost me $50, looking for $30. This one's an interesting pedal; it's sort of like a Metal Muff, in a way. Not in how it sounds, mind you, but in its story. The Metal Muff uses the clipping stages of the DOD/Digitech Grunge part-for-part, but uses very different input, output and tone shaping circuitry to achieve a notably distinct tone. The Fab Tone Distortion uses clipping "very similar indeed" to the Metalzone, but has a totally different tone stack and the end result is more like a super high gain fuzz pedal than any kind of focused distortion. On its own, its sound has been used by some pretty cool bands for a big wall of distortion sound, as unlike many distortions it is extremely high bandwidth and so doesn't sound totally compressed even though it is mega high-gain. However, put an EQ after it and you have a really, really versatile pedal that is a total steal.

Speaking of which, the last Dan-o in my posession: another Fish n' Chips EQ, again cost me $30. For $48 I'll give you the Fab Tone and this other Fish n' Chips, which as I just mentioned will give you a knock-out range of high gain tones that people won't believe you're using inexpensive Danelectro pedals to get.



Help me get rid of these, and avoid buying new Dan-o pedals (if you care about their politics, anyway).

I guess since the theme of this is packages, I'll sell the whole shebang together at an even steeper discount. All together, they cost me around $440. I'd do $268 for everything, or best offer - and I'd sweeten the pot with something else, too, depending on if anyone's interested in that offer.

Agreed fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Apr 5, 2009

EvilBeard
Apr 24, 2003

Big Q's House of Pancakes

Fun Shoe

Agreed posted:

Alright, time to fully divest from Dan-o.

Up for sale or trade, along with what they cost me when I bought them before any taxes or shipping.

A Cool Cat Package, all cool cat pedals first gen:

Cool Cat Distortion, cost me $40
Cool Cat Metal-I, cost me $40
Cool Cat Metal-II, cost me $30
Cool Cat Chorus, cost me $50
Cool Cat Pedalboard, cost me $80
And to fill out the 5-space, 5-daisy chain pedalboard,
Fish n' Chips EQ, cost me $30.

Total cost to me for these was $270. I am not looking to get $270 out of them, obviously, but I would like to recoup a fair amount. I'm asking $168 or best offer, cash or trade. All of them except the EQ come in the original packaging with docs intact, and all of them are in superb condition as I really take care of my stuff. The pedalboard fits all of the Cool Cats and the FAB pedals as well. The small food series pedals do not clip down (that includes the Fish n' Chips), but when the pedalboard is closed they do not move around, so it's pretty much just as good. The pedalboard includes the cabling, both audio and power, as well as the adapter that provides the power in the first place. I'd prefer not to part these out, as they form a very solid foundation for someone's sound and the enclosure houses and powers all of them; take any part of the equation out and it's just less useful, in my opinion, but together it's a whole new perspective on tone at what I think is a reasonable price.



The now discontinued Danelectro Wasabi Overdrive, cost me around $40 last go around at Mf. These were normally much more expensive but MusiciansFriend had a round of sales and these came up on clearance a couple times and I bought one each time. This is one of my favorite overdrives and I will be genuinely sorry to see it go but it is a sign of my irresponsibility. I won't ask to profit from it, either, just looking to get close to what I paid for it: $37.

Also discontinued Danelectro Wasabi Distortion, I traded for this one and I don't remember how much it cost. Looking for $48 out of it, or best offer.

I'll let the Wasabi OD and Wasabi Distortion go together for $76. The pair makes an extremely interesting combination with a wide range of sounds. I don't like seeing them go but it's something I've got to do.



Danelectro DD-1 Fab Tone Distortion, which cost me $50, looking for $30. This one's an interesting pedal; it's sort of like a Metal Muff, in a way. Not in how it sounds, mind you, but in its story. The Metal Muff uses the clipping stages of the DOD/Digitech Grunge part-for-part, but uses very different input, output and tone shaping circuitry to achieve a notably distinct tone. The Fab Tone Distortion uses clipping "very similar indeed" to the Metalzone, but has a totally different tone stack and the end result is more like a super high gain fuzz pedal than any kind of focused distortion. On its own, its sound has been used by some pretty cool bands for a big wall of distortion sound, as unlike many distortions it is extremely high bandwidth and so doesn't sound totally compressed even though it is mega high-gain. However, put an EQ after it and you have a really, really versatile pedal that is a total steal.

Speaking of which, the last Dan-o in my posession: another Fish n' Chips EQ, again cost me $30. For $48 I'll give you the Fab Tone and this other Fish n' Chips, which as I just mentioned will give you a knock-out range of high gain tones that people won't believe you're using inexpensive Danelectro pedals to get.



Help me get rid of these, and avoid buying new Dan-o pedals (if you care about their politics, anyway).

I guess since the theme of this is packages, I'll sell the whole shebang together at an even steeper discount. All together, they cost me around $440. I'd do $268 for everything, or best offer - and I'd sweeten the pot with something else, too, depending on if anyone's interested in that offer.

If you can give me a few days to add funds to PayPal, I'll take the whole shebang.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Sure thing, man. I figured if I priced them to move, they would. You'll get a hell of a lot out of these pedals, I certainly did. They'll be considered on hold 'til you let me know, alright?

EvilBeard
Apr 24, 2003

Big Q's House of Pancakes

Fun Shoe

Agreed posted:

Sure thing, man. I figured if I priced them to move, they would. You'll get a hell of a lot out of these pedals, I certainly did. They'll be considered on hold 'til you let me know, alright?

How much for shipping? I need to know when I add the funds. It'll take 2-3 business days for the transaction to clear.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I ship big boxes all the time, this will be a fairly sizeable box though. Hrm. I don't imagine shipping could POSSIBLY be more than $40 for it, insured; I've shipped guitars and they don't usually run more than $25 or so. How about $25 S&H and if it costs more than that I'll pay for it?

EvilBeard
Apr 24, 2003

Big Q's House of Pancakes

Fun Shoe

Agreed posted:

I ship big boxes all the time, this will be a fairly sizeable box though. Hrm. I don't imagine shipping could POSSIBLY be more than $40 for it, insured; I've shipped guitars and they don't usually run more than $25 or so. How about $25 S&H and if it costs more than that I'll pay for it?

works for me, I'll add the funds right now. Should be clear by Wednesday, Thursday at the latest.

Groggie
Aug 4, 2004
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I also have an Ibanez SR-485 5-String bass that I'd be willing to trade for a telecaster. It has a small crack in the body towards the bottom, but still plays awesome. I think I bought it around 2001 new for a pretty penny.

I'd also take recommendations as to what this is worth because I'm not sure what a good asking price is for this.



Here are more pictures:
http://www.groggie.com/ebay/sr485/

PoorPeteBest
Oct 13, 2005

We're not hitchhiking anymore! We're riding!
I have a Digitech RP70 modeling pedal I'm looking to trade. This a fun little pedal, the models sound great and the plethora of drum loops are very useful. It's in basically new condition and comes with the original power supply. I've pretty much been focusing on acoustic/folk instruments for a while now and just never get around to playing electric. I would like to trade this for a decent acoustic D.I. box. Thanks!

Rkelly
Sep 7, 2003
I have a v-amp pro 2 rack. It is tight go check it out. It eats the original pod. It has a nice preamp simulator for voice or bass. Tap tempo on all effects. Can be used as a effects box only with one button press.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfeerZ4AUzc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPeAvhUpSLA

I will trade for good strat pickup sets. Lace sensors, a delay or loop pedal. Cheap midi controller or a old fm or casio cz. or a sparkle drive. It is a great unit to learn on. It has wordclock in too. old midi drum pads.

I still have a 60s Hammond m3 I am trading also. They can be fixed to mint and sold for a few thousand. I Would trade it for any 500dollarish gear. just make an offer.

Rkelly fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 6, 2009

Raze
Aug 13, 2005

I'M GOING HOME.
I'm not really looking for a trade on this, mainly just a bit of cash. I have a Peavey special II 212 that I bought used around November of 2008. It's all in perfect working condition with footswitch, knobs, etc. all intact. I have since gotten a Mesa and no longer need this despite serving me well for such a short time. It's a 3 channel amp with a few different EQ/gain settings on the two distortion channels and a master EQ for both. The clean channel has some good push via the volume and has it's own EQ independent from the dirty channels (I believe). Also good onboard reverb, presence, master volume, etc. The transtube stuff is pretty neat and sounds good to my ears. Anyways, here is a terrible picture I took (I am bad with cameras):

Click here for the full 1001x757 image.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I have half a mind to buy that from you, Raze, I LOVE my Special 212II, one of the best sounding solid-state amps ever. The Boost channel if I remember right is just awesome, really dynamic...

Someone should snap that up, if you ask me, it's a hell of an amp.

Raze
Aug 13, 2005

I'M GOING HOME.

Agreed posted:

I have half a mind to buy that from you, Raze, I LOVE my Special 212II, one of the best sounding solid-state amps ever. The Boost channel if I remember right is just awesome, really dynamic...

Someone should snap that up, if you ask me, it's a hell of an amp.

You're the reason I sought it out/bought it initially! You had suggested one in some old amp thread and I found one at a music-go-round near me. :)
On another note: I have some old distortion pedals I never use anymore and a Rocktron Pro GAP Ultra preamp if you're interested in that sort of stuff, Agreed.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Raze posted:

You're the reason I sought it out/bought it initially! You had suggested one in some old amp thread and I found one at a music-go-round near me. :)
On another note: I have some old distortion pedals I never use anymore and a Rocktron Pro GAP Ultra preamp if you're interested in that sort of stuff, Agreed.

PM me, man, I'll be happy to talk it over. Especially interested in that preamp, I've been really digging old rack pres lately :confused:

ZombiePeanut
May 11, 2007

by Fistgrrl
How much do you want for that Peavey? I might need something loud soon.

Raze
Aug 13, 2005

I'M GOING HOME.

ZombiePeanut posted:

How much do you want for that Peavey? I might need something loud soon.
It gets ridiculously loud, yes. I could rarely turn the master above 1, and that's with the post-gain on the dirt channels around 8. How does 300 sound?
EDIT: I have no idea how much shipping will be, unfortunately. But I do have a nice sturdy (somewhat cat-clawed) box from when Avatar shipped my cab.

Raze fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Apr 8, 2009

For Loop
Apr 12, 2005
The Word on the Street.
kind of geeking out on the Traynor YBA-1. checking to see if anyone has one they'd like to part with for a reasonable price or amp trade.

Alecks
Dec 28, 2005

MasterWerk posted:

kind of geeking out on the Traynor YBA-1. checking to see if anyone has one they'd like to part with for a reasonable price or amp trade.

PM'd you

For Loop
Apr 12, 2005
The Word on the Street.
Anyone interested in a v1 Red Witch Moon Phase?

I recently bought it, but found that, despite its absolute awesomeness, i really don't need a phase all that much. Just not the kind of player who gets a good use of modulation effects.

This is the version 1 model. It has all the same functionality as the new version, but has a chrome case and a mono out, instead of the stereo out option. the new versions for for $299. I'm letting mine go for $150 shipped.

Also, I have the Dan-o Cool Cat Fuzz and Drive pedals I picked up from Agreed. They're cool pedals and sound great (as well they should as they're clones of the Frantone Peach Fuzz and Fulltone OCD), but I'm not vibing with them at all.

I'll do $30 for the fuzz and $25 for the drive. both prices include shipping.

all of these pedals come with the boxes. Holler!

edit: interested in trades as well: need a tuning pedal, an earthbound Super Collider or an Earthquaker Hoof

please take my stuff!

For Loop fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Apr 21, 2009

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.
Gone, thanks.

Kynetx fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Apr 19, 2009

who cares
Jul 25, 2006

Doomsday Machine

Kynetx posted:

I'm looking to sell my FCB-1010 MIDI foot controller.
I've had this board for about 2 years. I was using it to control a Behringer multi-effects system but I've decided to go the route of discrete foot pedals and don't need this anymore. This is an extremely popular device with a fairly large following including custom firmwares and a Yahoo discussion group. This particular board still has the stock firmware. It can be used to control Behringer's line of multi-effects systems, computer software like Reason and Ableton (with a MIDI interface) and anything else with a MIDI interface.
It was mostly used in a practice studio, with maybe 3 gigs under its belt. It has a couple of small scratches but is in otherwise excellent cosmetic condition. I still have the power cable and will throw in a pair of 10-foot MIDI patch cables. I don't have the packaging or manuals but I would be happy to print them off for you and/or burn them to CD.

$100.00 shipped or partial trade for a bass pedals except chorus, DI and compression.

I'm interested in this, sending you a PM.

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ZombiePeanut
May 11, 2007

by Fistgrrl

Raze posted:

It gets ridiculously loud, yes. I could rarely turn the master above 1, and that's with the post-gain on the dirt channels around 8. How does 300 sound?
EDIT: I have no idea how much shipping will be, unfortunately. But I do have a nice sturdy (somewhat cat-clawed) box from when Avatar shipped my cab.

Sorry I kind of flaked on this... I haven't had internet at home for a while due to just moving. It's rather annoying. I'll figure out if I need it for sure within the next few days.

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