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vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



My April 2009 Downtempo chart at Beatport: http://tr.im/icVu

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mingster
Feb 1, 2004

the man who sold the world
i posted this in phiz but i guess i'll throw it up here too

dinosaur cheerleader - take her to shadow space (66:58)

http://www.divshare.com/download/6990189-a29

1. Kasper Bjorke - Lost Signal
2. J Dilla - B.B.E. (Big Booty Express)
3. Kanye West - Welcome to Heartbreak (Featuring Kid Cudi)
4. Ivy - Hideaway
5. Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Take You There
6. Air - All I Need
7. Dr. Dre - Nuthin' But A "G" Thang Feat. Snoop Dogg
8. Malvenkemo - Say
9. Jadakiss - Wall To Wall
10. Mary J. Blige - Work That
11. The Game - Too much
12. Jan Hammer - Midnight
13. Clipse - Cot drat (ft. Ab-Liva, Roscoe)
14. RJD2 - Silver Fox
15. Talib Kweli - The Proud
16. Junior Boys - When No One Cares
17. Busy P - Pedrophilia
18. Clinton Sparks feat Mobb Deep - Bidadidat
19. Mellow - Another Mellow Winter
20. Les Rythmes Digitales - About Funk
21. Giorgio Moroder - Pauls' Theme
22. Suicide - Ghost Rider
23. Ivy - While We're In Love
24. Wu Tang Clan - Stomp (The Bloody Beetroots Remix)
25. Chamillionaire featuring Slick Rick - Hip Hop Police
26. De La Soul - Oooh
27. Birdman & Lil' Wayne - Don't Die
28. Dave Hollister - Almost
29. Flying Lotus - Melt!
30. Adam Kesher - Local Girl
31. Takeshi Saitoh - Fallin' Love
32. Inspectah Deck - Big City
33. Tangerine Dream - Charly the Kid
34. Slick Rick - Street Talkin'
35. DaroC - Hypnotic
36. GZA - Shadowboxing
37. Tina Charles - I Love to Love
38. Phoenix - Definitive Breaks
39. Eurythmics - You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart
40. Uncle O - Avanche
41. Royce the 5'9" - Hip-Hop
42. R. Kelly - Happy People
43. Missy elliot - Play that beat
44. Binster - Abandoned Petrol Station (She Has Magic Powers)
45. Hercules and Love Affair - Iris
46. Alan Braxe & Fred Falke - Palladium
47. Mirage - Lake Of Dreams
48. Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five - The Message
49. derek b - good groove
50. 7he Myriads - French Wind
51. Cassie - Is it You
52. liberty x - just a little
53. Black Jack - Go Down Main Street
54. Lil Wayne - Roll On
55. Jay-Z - Girls Girls Girls
56. Mandy Moore - Candy
57. Sebastien Tellier - Fingers Of Steel
58. The Rapture - No Sex For Ben
59. Orange Juice - Rip It Up (The Intermediate Edit)
60. Otis Gayle - I'll Be Around
61. Daft Punk - Something About Us
62. Beyoncé - Crazy in Love
63. LCD Soundsystem - Someone Great
64. CFCF - Claudio
65. Zapp - More Bounce To The Ounce
66. Melee Beats - Made In Italy
67. Annie - Helpless For Love
68. Ludacris feat. DJ Quik - Spur Of The Moment
69. Pino Donaggio - The Erotic Story
70. J Dilla - Rico Suave Bossa Nova
71. Lloyd Ft. Lil' Wayne - Girls All Around World
72. The Chemical Brothers - The Boxer (Feattim Burgess)
73. M.I.A. - Paper Planes (DFA remix)
74. Beastie Boys - Hold It Now
75. Booka Shade - Hallelujah USA
76. The Knife - Na Na Na
77. DJ Benzi And Evil Empire Prese - Crew Deep (Remix) feat. Missy
78. Fleetwood Mac - As Long as You Follow
79. Kirk Franklin - I Like Me (Featuring Da T.R.U.T.H.)
80. Glass Candy - ROLLING DOWN THE HILLS
81. A Forest Mighty Black - Tides
82. Junior Senior - Go Junior, Go Senior
83. Midnight Juggernauts - Worlds Converged
84. Chromatics - Tomorrow is So Far Away
85. The Notorious B.I.G. - Hypnotize
86. Sébastien Tellier - Fantino
87. Junior Boys - Under the Sun
88. Arabesque - Catch Me Tiger
89. Blondie - Rapture
90. The Ting Tings - Shut Up and Let Go
91. Hot Chip - Look After Me
92. Studio - Life's A Beach!
93. Royksopp - Someone Like Me
94. Crystal Castles - Magic Spells
95. Ciara - Cant Leave Em Alone Ft 50 Cent
96. Spiller - Cry Baby (Malselves Memorobilia Remix)
97. Mos Def - Wylin' Out
98. Basement Jaxx - Living Room
99. Mouse on Mars - kompod
100. Sigur Ros - Sæglo´pur
101. The Bug - Freak Freak
102. Friend - Dreams
103. Cassie - Me & U (CFCF Remix)
104. T.I. - Why You Wanna
105. E.S.G. - The South
106. Chic - My Forbidden Lover
107. Tina Turner - We Don't Need Another Hero
108. Keedz - Stand On The Word
109. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - The Message (GlitchBitch Remix)
110. Radiohead - Nude (Amplive Remix)
111. Gaz Nevada - Special Agent Man
112. Ivy - Disappointed
113. Mark Ronson - Ooh Wee
114. Angelo Badalamenti - The Nightingale
115. Brigitte Bardot - Ca pourrait changer
116. Dr. Dre - Bad Intentions
117. Mobb Deep - Survival of the Fittest (Mums Ca Dreamin Remix)
118. Ulrich Schnauss - In Between the Years
119. Lil Wayne - Don't Stop, Won't Stop (Feat. Nikki Menaj)
120. Rufus & Chaka Khan - Ain't Nobody (Frankie Knuckles Hallucinogenic Dub)
121. Inner Life - Ain't No Mountain High Enough

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004

mingster posted:

i posted this in phiz but i guess i'll throw it up here too

dinosaur cheerleader - take her to shadow space (66:58)

http://www.divshare.com/download/6990189-a29

This mix is a total clusterfuck in my ears. You've got doubled vocals and ambiguous chord combinations all over the place. Its not a contest to see how many tracks you can use in an hour. I like a lot of what you have going on but you really need to thin it out.

IanTheM
May 22, 2007
He came from across the Atlantic. . .
New dubstep mix I made, found some cool tracks and couldn't resist. Also, some good practice for my next gig:

Dubalicious Deux - Professor Emperor
36:45
http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/71572/Dubalicious%20Deux.mp3

The Bug - Run Them Red (AFX Mix)
Sully - Phonebox
Ratatat - Mirando
Ital Tek - Tokyo Freeze (Remix)
Redlight - Rock The House
Jakes & Joker - 3k Lane
Lily Allen - The Fear (Duke Demont Remix)
Martyn - Hear Me
LD - Woodblock
Loefah - Jungle Infiltrator
Boy 8-Bit - Bulbs Burn Out
Justice - Phantom (Prof. Emp. Dub)
Kid Cudi - Day n Night (Rusko's Big Trombone Remix)
16 Bit - Ford Fiesta
Matty G Matty's Theme
Chase & Status - Eastern Jam
Uncle Sam - Round The World Girls (Tes La Rok VIP Mix)
El-B - Buck and Bury
Orien -Chasing A Never Ending Dream

MrPeanut
Mar 11, 2005

My word!
Not sure how much Q&A has been going on in this thread, but I figured this would be the best place to ask.

So, I've been networking myself to a lot of bar managers downtown, one bar in particular I like above all others. I did the lucky thing of talking up a friend of the bar owner, who then introduced me when I told him I was looking to DJ, so I have the personable look going, but now I need to make a demo mix of my poo poo.

The truth is I have been a bit premature with my networking, as I haven't actually done a house party at this point (had one set up but got sick =(, however I have been practicing on my home setup. I don't plan to start right away, and will plan on having some house parties before I go real time at the bars, so I don't think this will be an issue. I do have a good sense of beatmatching in general, but have never put together a mix, nor am I sure of what a demo mix should be.

My plan is to mix trance/psy-trance/house/dance music with a drop in of the occasional popular tracks (most likely a popular riff from some hip-hop or top40 club mixes). I was at this bar last night, and the DJ there was nothing of what I would plan to do. He drops in literally 10-20 seconds of any popular song of the last 10 years, then changes it pretty much immediately. He is very good at doing this, but I noticed a lot of people stopping during his transitions until they figured out wtf the song was. However on other nights I have heard some more traditional techno/house/dance stuff there.

So here goes my question,

Being that this is the Saturday heavy-night dj, I'm worried this is what he has come to expect. Quick transitions, popular songs, and genres I will not be mixing.

Since I am going to be making a demo mix, I am trying to figure out how much I should focus on song selection for him to get a sense of what I like, to transitions and effects mixing. Should I be transitioning often? or focusing more on a realistic night of beatmatching and song flow? or somewhere in between? How long should I make the mix?

Rivfader
Aug 1, 2006

Before One

MrPeanut posted:

So here goes my question,

Being that this is the Saturday heavy-night dj, I'm worried this is what he has come to expect. Quick transitions, popular songs, and genres I will not be mixing.

Since I am going to be making a demo mix, I am trying to figure out how much I should focus on song selection for him to get a sense of what I like, to transitions and effects mixing. Should I be transitioning often? or focusing more on a realistic night of beatmatching and song flow? or somewhere in between? How long should I make the mix?

The first and most important advice would be to make a demo that you feel represents the music you want to play/will be playing, not the music he wants to hear. I cannot stress this enough, because that way there will most likely never be any disappointments on either side.

Now, as far as your demo-mix goes, that's actually not all that easy. What you want to do is give him a nice mix that both shows your diversity in styles and your mixing skill. He needs to know you are up to the job of entertaining his guests.

Track-selection is key, especially in bars.

If you give him a demotape that has a really good set of tracks, put together in a good order, then the actual mixing is of lesser importance. Sure, you still need to make sure it doesn't sound like jackshit, but it doesn't have to be 100% smooth and perfect. Most people, including barowners, remember tracks, not transitions. (They will only remember bad transitions, so don't make any of those.) I'd leave effects out, unless you use them in really small amounts to make certain parts sound just that tiny bit more interesting. Too many will kill your demo though, so be careful. Don't use flangers at all.

As to how many songs and transitions you put in, that's completely up to you, just don't do anything you wouldn't normally do when playing out/spinning at home. So if you're used to say 20 songs/hour, then don't do a demo-mix that has 40 songs in one hour. If they then decide to hire you based on your demotape, that's what they'll expect.

Length should be around 60 minutes. That's long enough to show him your style and skill, but not too long he might start skipping through. (Most normal people don't listen to DJ-sets longer than 2 hours).

Don't go out of your way to get this job. If his idea of the music doesn't work with what you feel comfortable playing, don't do it. I've done a bar for some time and at a certain point decided to quit because I simply wasn't enjoying spinning stupid pop-songs all night.

Good luck with it, and feel free to post your demo-tape here, so we can maybe give some more tips.
(And laugh at you on our secret SA-DJ meetings held at secret places with secret people and secret music. :hellyeah:)

Rivfader fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 6, 2009

tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

Time.Space.Transmat.

MrPeanut posted:

Not sure how much Q&A has been going on in this thread, but I figured this would be the best place to ask.

[a bunch of stuff snipped]


some advice:

DO continue to have a nice, outgoing personality and meet bar owners and venue bookers.

DO NOT,DO NOT, DOOOOOOOO NOTTTTTTT try to play 'psy-trance/trance/house' to a crowd expecting to hear top-40 and popular rap hits. Millions of DJs before you have tried that and it 100% a losing proposition. Nobody has a good time, not the bar owner, not the crowd, not you, the DJ. You will fail at this. People offer me these kinds of gigs from time to time and I am always tempted but always come to my senses and turn them down. Sorry, you're going to have to find another situation if you wanna play 'underground' dance music to a crowd. Try and befriend promoters who promote those kinds of parties/nights.

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



tylertfb posted:

some advice:

DO NOT,DO NOT, DOOOOOOOO NOTTTTTTT try to play 'psy-trance/trance/house' to a crowd expecting to hear top-40 and popular rap hits. Millions of DJs before you have tried that and it 100% a losing proposition. Nobody has a good time, not the bar owner, not the crowd, not you, the DJ. You will fail at this. People offer me these kinds of gigs from time to time and I am always tempted but always come to my senses and turn them down. Sorry, you're going to have to find another situation if you wanna play 'underground' dance music to a crowd. Try and befriend promoters who promote those kinds of parties/nights.

This. Stick to house parties if you want to play house techno trance whatever (especially psytrance). Bars will not go for this. I earned some extra money playing at a bar one summer during college and it was pretty much the worst thing ever. Any attempt to mix anything "technoish" in would immediately earn me a few visits from patrons of the bar asking for something they could "dance to." This was the summer that Crazy Town - Butterfly was really popular so I think I played that every weekend. :smith:

I gave up on attempting to do anything clever or interesting and would just bring a book with me and expend the least effort possible on actually mixing. Of course, it didn't help that the DJ booth was literally a small room wedged between the two bathrooms with a window that was barred like a prison, so I could just sit there unseen and be ignored.

If you are ok with dumbing down what you are playing for the sake of a gig and exposure, that's great. Just be aware of what you are getting yourself into or it will only lead to disappointment.

Threatis
Sep 28, 2005

congrats on figuring out how to use a machine with 4 buttons
again, lemme say as someone who crosses over between the "underground" and straight up club music, dont do this. as a fellow dj, it's never fun to see someone almost break into tears as they play trance to an empty dancefloor.

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



Somewhat on topic: Every year a message board I run does a "worst mix" competition. This year's entries are up, if you want to hear the hilarity. The main rule is that they have to be under 30 minutes long.

http://tr.im/ilSe

They're so bad they're good...maybe

ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

vanilla slimfast posted:

Somewhat on topic: Every year a message board I run does a "worst mix" competition. This year's entries are up, if you want to hear the hilarity. The main rule is that they have to be under 30 minutes long.

http://tr.im/ilSe

They're so bad they're good...maybe
I love poo poo like this, thank you.

tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

Time.Space.Transmat.

vanilla slimfast posted:

Somewhat on topic: Every year a message board I run does a "worst mix" competition. This year's entries are up, if you want to hear the hilarity. The main rule is that they have to be under 30 minutes long.

http://tr.im/ilSe

They're so bad they're good...maybe

man I'd be so tempted to enter a straight-up prog/tech-prog/"tech-house for people who like trance" mix of like dubfire tracks and all that crap just to be a dick.

Xesis
Jul 11, 2002

vanilla slimfast posted:

Somewhat on topic: Every year a message board I run does a "worst mix" competition. This year's entries are up, if you want to hear the hilarity. The main rule is that they have to be under 30 minutes long.

http://tr.im/ilSe

They're so bad they're good...maybe

rihanna into smack my bitch up in that first mix is great

Threatis
Sep 28, 2005

congrats on figuring out how to use a machine with 4 buttons

tylertfb posted:

man I'd be so tempted to enter a straight-up prog/tech-prog/"tech-house for people who like trance" mix of like dubfire tracks and all that crap just to be a dick.

what would happen if dubfire played and nobody came?

we found out in ottawa when he played to 6 people a few months ago.

Altoidss
Jun 7, 2007
Curiously Strong

Threatis posted:

what would happen if dubfire played and nobody came?

we found out in ottawa when he played to 6 people a few months ago.

Really??? He always draws massive crowds in LA when he shows up...

hey bones where is your avatar on DMB from? It's incredible. I feel like it has to be Robot Chicken but I could be wrong.

Altoidss fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Apr 7, 2009

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



Altoidss posted:

Really??? He always draws massive crowds in LA when he shows up...

hey bones where is your avatar on DMB from? It's incredible. I feel like it has to be Robot Chicken but I could be wrong.

Yeah, Robot Chicken's second Star Wars special that aired a few months ago.

I'd use it for an avatar here too except it's loving huge for a gif (like 2mb or something). Someday I'll make one for myself here

ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

Altoidss posted:

Really??? He always draws massive crowds in LA when he shows up...

I don't know if that's a good gauge. You just have to flyer at a couple highschools and your LA massive will be filled with 10's of thousands of people, regardless of the lineup :)

MrPeanut
Mar 11, 2005

My word!

tylertfb posted:

some advice:

DO continue to have a nice, outgoing personality and meet bar owners and venue bookers.

DO NOT,DO NOT, DOOOOOOOO NOTTTTTTT try to play 'psy-trance/trance/house' to a crowd expecting to hear top-40 and popular rap hits. Millions of DJs before you have tried that and it 100% a losing proposition. Nobody has a good time, not the bar owner, not the crowd, not you, the DJ. You will fail at this. People offer me these kinds of gigs from time to time and I am always tempted but always come to my senses and turn them down. Sorry, you're going to have to find another situation if you wanna play 'underground' dance music to a crowd. Try and befriend promoters who promote those kinds of parties/nights.


I will say that this place does play techno on occasion so it's definitly not a lost cause, however the Saturday night dj plays top 40.

As a rule of thumb for my current move to the bars, I'm planning on dropping in a few popular techno tracks ie daft punk etc to get the people on the floor, but I'm certainly not trying to play to the typical college bar crowd. Most likely I'll be working the off nights, or the gay bars where techno reigns supreme.

I do appreciate the advice, and will certainly try to make it to some off hour nights to see how my type of music is recieved, but from what I can tell from blasting deadmau5 on the streets from my 2k dollar car system :cool: people definitly like dance techno atleast in moderation.

Fake edit: I'll post that mix whenever I get done with it.

Threatis
Sep 28, 2005

congrats on figuring out how to use a machine with 4 buttons

MrPeanut posted:

I will say that this place does play techno on occasion so it's definitly not a lost cause, however the Saturday night dj plays top 40.

As a rule of thumb for my current move to the bars, I'm planning on dropping in a few popular techno tracks ie daft punk etc to get the people on the floor, but I'm certainly not trying to play to the typical college bar crowd. Most likely I'll be working the off nights, or the gay bars where techno reigns supreme.

I do appreciate the advice, and will certainly try to make it to some off hour nights to see how my type of music is recieved, but from what I can tell from blasting deadmau5 on the streets from my 2k dollar car system :cool: people definitly like dance techno atleast in moderation.

Fake edit: I'll post that mix whenever I get done with it.

ok, you want to play psy/trance/buttrock/whatever? go nuts, but you play it to people that weren't coming out looking for it, and you're going to be disappointed.

Example: I play some straight up "guns in the air/I get money" poo poo, but i wont play it to the white fratboys.

Man vs Child
Mar 21, 2004

by Ralp
Greetings, i'm quite new to mixing but I figured I would post my latest mix here to get an idea what people who know what they are doing think. This is predominantly electro.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZ31S290

Here's the tracklist:

01. It Ain't Love F. Lil Mo - MSTRKRFT
02. Big Money Comin - Crookers
03. Blind Concerto - Mr. Oizo
04. Click Click F. E-40 - MSTRKRFT
05. Culture Prophet Guide to Planisphére - Justice
06. Detonator [Freform Reform Rexix by Freeform Five] - Shinichi Osawa
07. Day 'N' Nite - Kid Cudi vs Crookers
08. Shooting The Stars - Baby Diamonds
09. Stress - Justice
10. Electro411 - Shinichi Osawa
11. Erreur Jean - Mr. Oizo
12. gum - she
13. Happy Up Here (Boys Noize Remix) - Röyksopp
14. Maximum Joy - Shinichi Osawa
15. Human After All (Justice remix) - Daft Punk
16. Knobbers - Crookers
17. Last Days - Shinichi Osawa
18. Pourriture 7 - Mr. Oizo
19. music - she
20. Phantom Pt II (Boyz Noize Remix) - Justice
21. Positif - Mr. Oizo
22. Omen - The Prodigy
23. Pourriture 7 - Mr. Oizo
24. Star Guitar [Armand Van Helden Remix] - Shinichi Osawa
25. Waters of Nazareth - Justice
26. The Read Thread of Death - Baby Diamonds
27. Vuvuvu - MSTRKRFT
28. Stress (live version) - Justice

Any and all criticism is great, this is the first mix that i've made that i've actually felt worthy of posting. A couple of my transitions are off at the beginning and apologies in advance for the volume on Human After All, I somehow knocked it down a few decibels. :) hope you enjoy.

Dance Move Burglar
Oct 2, 2005

by Ozma

MrPeanut posted:

techno techno techno
I don't believe that most of the music you are talking about is actually Techno. Please learn what "Techno" means if you're going to be a DJ

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave

Dance Move Burglar posted:

I don't believe that most of the music you are talking about is actually Techno. Please learn what "Techno" means if you're going to be a DJ

thank you

I just couldnt do it this time

MrPeanut
Mar 11, 2005

My word!

Dance Move Burglar posted:

I don't believe that most of the music you are talking about is actually Techno. Please learn what "Techno" means if you're going to be a DJ

I'm using techno as a general term. Sorry but with all the definitions of dance genres techno has been my goto descriptor.

Again this place does play electronic music made by computers that you can dance to. A Saturday night brings in all kinds so they play top 40, but on other nights they mix it up. These are the nights I'm going for.

Dance Move Burglar
Oct 2, 2005

by Ozma

MrPeanut posted:

I'm using techno as a general term. Sorry but with all the definitions of dance genres techno has been my goto descriptor.
I'm aware of how you are using it. The way in which you are using it is incorrect. "Techno" refers to a specific set of substyles of EDM, not to EDM or electronic music as a whole.

Terrible Horse
Apr 27, 2004
:I
Yeah just call it dance music if you need to be general. It annoys me when people make up their own vernacular and then are confused when no one knows what theyre talking about

Dance Move Burglar
Oct 2, 2005

by Ozma
To be fair, a lot of people outside the EDM scene refer to all EDM (or more narrowly, all 4-beat EDM) as "techno".

However, we are not outside the EDM scene right now.

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



Quincy Smallvoice posted:

thank you

I just couldnt do it this time

I thought about doing it too. Glad to see I'm not the only one

vanilla slimfast fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Oct 20, 2010

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave

vanilla slimfast posted:

lol. I thought about doing it too. Glad to see I'm not the only one

next paycheck I am so buying you a loving avatar gift cert.

Threatis
Sep 28, 2005

congrats on figuring out how to use a machine with 4 buttons
boy golly, sure lovin' this slapfight over the word techo!

why do any of you care what it called? also, if someone called what i play EDM, i'd be pretty mad.

Terrible Horse
Apr 27, 2004
:I
Caus when talking about music it helps to have an agreed upon vocabulary so this discussion doesnt come up every ten seconds. EDM is stupid. Dance music or even house should be enough

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



Terrible Horse posted:

Caus when talking about music it helps to have an agreed upon vocabulary so this discussion doesnt come up every ten seconds. EDM is stupid. Dance music or even house should be enough

House, just like techno, is a specific genre of dance music. You wouldn't go around calling all dance music jungle or dubstep would you?

I know it's a bit pedantic but honestly these different genres have unique identities and histories

ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

vanilla slimfast posted:

I know it's a bit pedantic but honestly these different genres have unique identities and histories
Exactly, and as a DJ, I think you gotta pedantic in that way. I mean, a DJ should be the biggest music snob in the room, right?

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004

Terrible Horse posted:

Caus when talking about music it helps to have an agreed upon vocabulary so this discussion doesnt come up every ten seconds. EDM is stupid. Dance music or even house should be enough

why is "electronic dance music" bad? it's one of the better blanket terms out there, far more acceptable than "techno" and "electronica" at least

Terrible Horse
Apr 27, 2004
:I
^ I dont think thats bad, I just think "EDM", as in saying the letters, sounds kinda lame. Also that terms so broad that its almost meaningless. Better than techno though. Whats up man havent seen you around in a while.

vanilla slimfast posted:

House, just like techno, is a specific genre of dance music. You wouldn't go around calling all dance music jungle or dubstep would you?

I know it's a bit pedantic but honestly these different genres have unique identities and histories

Yeah I know, and I refer to stuff by its correct name. It all came from house though, so for the 'techno' guy who cant be bothered to learn the terms, you could do worse than house as a catch-all term.

Agree that Djs should be snobs. If a mix has more than like 3 tunes I've heard before I'm probably not interested.

Terrible Horse fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Apr 8, 2009

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004
haha 'edm' as it stands definitely has a lame connotation to it, and i guess the term has become sort of meaningless (is modern top 40 hip-hop/Justin Timberlake/MIA electronic dance music? your call) but for DJs who like to mix lots of genres, its a good descriptor (i.e. "I'm an electronic music DJ, I'm not going to play any hip-hop")

i've been pretty good, just finishing up my last quarter of school, DJing at house parties and frats (who actually are pretty down with our brand of music these days) and the like. hopefully i'll have a new mix up sometime soon. how about you? btw, i don't really know what the consensus on pete tong's essential mix is around here these days, but you should really check out tiga's new mix. really cool blend of techno and electro (or whatever you want to call it)

Terrible Horse
Apr 27, 2004
:I
Cool, I'll check it out. I dont listen to much electro these days but Tiga's usually pretty fun. Listening to a lot of dubstep and berghain style techno these days :\ no hooks, no vocals that dont sound like ghosts, etc

ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

Terrible Horse posted:

no hooks, no vocals that dont sound like ghosts
Spectacular name for a mix.

Altoidss
Jun 7, 2007
Curiously Strong
Two things -

I say "techno" when talking about dance music as a whole when talking to average people who aren't really into the whole thing, cause that's what they say and it's easier to just go along with that.

Second -

Just how malleable are average bar crowds? I've never played at one but I feel like if you start out with something that will make people dance, you might be able to guide them a bit. The house music I play is pretty (really) poppy, so might I be able to get away with it if I say, start with Snoop Dogg Millionaire, then dubstep for a little, then into pop crookers/bloody beetroots/steve aoki kind of music? Or do people not want to ever stray outside the usual tempo range?

Candleshire
Dec 16, 2003

weird beard laffo
Xposted with phiz, because well - there's two dj threads.

This is my phiz mix, all electro bangers



GET IT HERE
http://www.zshare.net/audio/583458652a80134f/

Dan Sera - Italiofuker (LAZRtag Remix)
Franz Ferdinand - No You Girls (Zodiac Cartel Remix)
Fake Blood - MARS
Little Boots - Meddle (AC Slater & DJ Skeet Skeet Remix)
Breakdown - Sweat
Sound Factory - Understand This Groove (Tommie Sunshine & Barletta Edit)
LAZRtag - Work Is Play (DJ Barletta Boom Blast Fix)
Mightyfools - Hey Babe (Electric Soulside Remix)
Lorene Drive - Showing Bones (True Psuedo Remix)


http://www.zshare.net/audio/583458652a80134f/


Enjoy!

edit: serato, tech 12s and a ttm56

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ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

Altoidss posted:

Just how malleable are average bar crowds? I've never played at one but I feel like if you start out with something that will make people dance, you might be able to guide them a bit. The house music I play is pretty (really) poppy, so might I be able to get away with it if I say, start with Snoop Dogg Millionaire, then dubstep for a little, then into pop crookers/bloody beetroots/steve aoki kind of music? Or do people not want to ever stray outside the usual tempo range?
You'd think warming dudes up would work, but in my experience it never does. Really, 95% of the time, a top 40 bar/frat crowd will get kinda mad if you play something they haven't heard before, especially anything they perceive as "techno".

And tempo and pacing really doesn't matter at all. I've watched dudes just rewind and bounce between totally different tracks without anyone on the floor batting an eye. This works especially well with hip hop.

But really, this is all part of reading a room. You'll know when all everyone wants to hear is Shake Ya rear end and Juicy.


e: I may be too harsh, because I've been able to get away with playing Daft Punk and Justice and Digitalism and all those acts that were still hot when I still played out. Really, all you have to do is sell the girls. If they're feeling it, the guys will.

ManoliIsFat fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Apr 8, 2009

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