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2ndclasscitizen posted:Of course it does. He'll be going through a few engines with an 08. Sarcasm, or is there a known problem with them?
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iroc_dis posted:Nah I live in SC. The friend that suggested it said that the dealership would deliver the bike to a parking lot just on the GA side to get around the TN sales tax. I'd end up either registering it in SC under my name or in VA under my dad's name. If you are not a resident of the state you should never pay sales tax in that state.
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n8r posted:If you are not a resident of the state you should never pay sales tax in that state. You'll still pay sales tax when you register it...? UserNotFound fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 21, 2009 |
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Oct 21, 2009 18:34
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UserNotFound posted:You'll still pay sales tax when you register it...? Wouldn't that be property tax?
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iroc_dis posted:Wouldn't that be property tax? Well, according to my BMV, it's called a sales tax, and you can be charged in other states, but you'll end up paying only the 7% Indiana rate in the end: On April 1, 2008, Indiana adopted a seven percent sales tax. State law requires Indiana residents to pay a seven percent sales tax on any newly-purchased vehicle. If a vehicle is purchased from a dealership, the dealer will collect the sales tax. If a vehicle is sold privately, the sales tax must be paid at a license branch when the purchaser titles the vehicle. Motorists who purchase a vehicle from an out-of-state dealer or individual will receive credit for taxes paid in that other state. If the motorist paid less than seven percent they will need to pay the difference to Indiana. Some states will allow a person to purchase a vehicle and not pay taxes on it when taking it out of that state. Other states will tax the transaction. Depending on the percentage of tax paid to the other state, the Indiana resident may be charged or credited the difference between the other state's sales tax and Indiana's sales tax.
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Oct 21, 2009 19:55
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7% drat. Now I understand why the dude I bought my bike from was offering to write down a lower price. IL private-party motorcycle sales are taxed at a flat rate of $25.
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Going to look at an eighty one Suzuki GS450L for 550 dollars in a day or two, and the crappy pics the owner sent don't impart much other than his horrible taste in decals, and a torn seat, but I was wondering if there are any specific things on a bike like this I should look for. Also, under the engine there appear to be a few drops of a green fluid, are there any normally green fluids in a bike, and if it is leaking a little of whatever, could it be a big problem?
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Leaking a little of whatever is ok. No, there is no green fluid in the bike. It's only oil, and gasoline in the bike.
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Nerobro posted:Leaking a little of whatever is ok. No, there is no green fluid in the bike. It's only oil, and gasoline in the bike. Break fluid can be green, and so can synthetic oil.
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Oct 22, 2009 10:02
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Tsaven Nava posted:Sarcasm, or is there a known problem with them? Known problem. It's an issue with the oil channels IIRC, and they burn a lot of oil and need rebuilds at minimum. There are many people who have had 2, or even 3 new motors put in. Honda has fixed it in the 09s, but a lot of the 08s are hosed. I know a few people who have just kicked up a fuss to the head office and gotten new 09 bikes to replace their 08s.
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There's a type of oil used for long term storage thats a bright green. I forget its name now. My KZ650 was full of it when I got it. I have to say though that the magic green oil worked great. Really thick stuff and the inside of my KZ650 looked new despite sitting for 16 years.
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Blaster of Justice posted:Break fluid can be green, and so can synthetic oil.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:Known problem. It's an issue with the oil channels IIRC, and they burn a lot of oil and need rebuilds at minimum. There are many people who have had 2, or even 3 new motors put in. Honda has fixed it in the 09s, but a lot of the 08s are hosed. I know a few people who have just kicked up a fuss to the head office and gotten new 09 bikes to replace their 08s. I'll have to ask my friend if he's having problems with his 08s and how widespread the issue is out here...do they know what actually causes the problem?
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Z3n posted:I'll have to ask my friend if he's having problems with his 08s and how widespread the issue is out here...do they know what actually causes the problem? Something to do with the oil pathways in the head I think. Honda was trying to claim that using 1L/1000km of oil was normal. Here's a story and some info from a guy on another forum whose 08 just went in for a rebuild. Whitey posted:As most of you know i bought an 08 Blade, about June i think, and it is the most fanatastic motorcycle i have ever ridden. It's light, it's powerful, it's easy to ride relatively fast and it burns oil.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:Something to do with the oil pathways in the head I think. Honda was trying to claim that using 1L/1000km of oil was normal. Here's a story and some info from a guy on another forum whose 08 just went in for a rebuild. Huh, weird. I'm curious about his break in procedure. Also I finally got it to send me an e-mail for registration...time to go find that B-King thread 
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Hm, when I swung through the local Honda Powerhouse, the salesman didn't know anything about the 08/09 1000rr engine problem. Hes been selling them like hotcakes and haven't seen any come back.
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iroc_dis posted:Hm, when I swung through the local Honda Powerhouse, the salesman didn't know anything about the 08/09 1000rr engine problem. Hes been selling them like hotcakes and haven't seen any come back. Why, I would have never believed a salesman would say that. (Sorry I'm just jaded, I hate salesmen)
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Tsaven Nava posted:Why, I would have never believed a salesman would say that. I know, I'm not usually big on salesmen either but I've known this guy for a several years now and he has always been cool with me. edit// hrmm, 2007 ZX6r with 3k miles for $4900 
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1997 KLR 650 with just under 11k for $1900? Has some nice mods (front and rear crash bars, saddlebags, tall windshield) and the owner is a mechanic who's been using it as a commuter. Says the bike is cosmetically excellent, going to go look at it this weekend. Would be my second bike, although #1 was just a 125cc 2-stroke I toured on for 7 weeks.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:1997 KLR 650 with just under 11k for $1900? Has some nice mods (front and rear crash bars, saddlebags, tall windshield) and the owner is a mechanic who's been using it as a commuter. Says the bike is cosmetically excellent, going to go look at it this weekend. Sounds like a decent deal. Ask him if the doohickey has been done. Z3n fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Oct 23, 2009 |
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Z3n posted:Sounds like a decent deal. Ask him if the doohickey has been done. Yep, made sure of that. Guy says Saturday or Sunday should be fine to come look at it, pretty excited. If everything looks good and nothing else goes wrong between then and now, might get it as soon as next weekend  Won't be able to ride it for a little while though, taking the MSF/getting a bike are supposed to be my motivation to finish this goddamn thesis and graduate. The effect will probably be more pronounced if I know it's physically sitting at home, waiting for me.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:1997 KLR 650 with just under 11k for $1900? Has some nice mods (front and rear crash bars, saddlebags, tall windshield) and the owner is a mechanic who's been using it as a commuter. Says the bike is cosmetically excellent, going to go look at it this weekend. I found that a 650 was both easier and harder to ride then those Minsks. Easier because the gears, clutch, everything actually works. Harder because a 650 is a lot heavier and a lot more precise in its controls. On a Minsk you could get away with a lot of mismanaging of controls/steering/etc, but with a western bike you need to be a lot more attentive to details. The basics however are still the same, so if you had 7 weeks on that thing through Asia, you will at least be pretty aware of what to do in regards to traffic and maneuvering.
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I am looking to buy my first bike. Just passed the MSF course last week. I really like the Suzuki GS500s. I found a 1994 on craigslist's for 1700USD. It was in pretty much mint condition, but sat for about 2 years so it needed carb work and a new battery. The bike did however start right up once I jumped the battery. The Kelly Bluebook value is 1460, I offered him 1350 but he said no way. What would be a good price for this bike? There is another 1997 GS500 on craigslist going for 1300 which I havent seen yet but the description says some cosmetic damage. Any thoughts? I am going to go look at that one maybe offer 1000-1200 depending on the condition.
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Why is the new KLR650 carbureted? Is there is a reason for this I am unaware of? Because it is single stroke?
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That guy with the 94 is smoking crack if he things that he'll get anywhere near blue book for it, especially now, unless it's immaculate. I'd go with the 97 if you can get it for that cheap...1000$ is a good offer if there's relatively extensive damage, 1200$ is good if it's clean and only has minor damage.
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Cheesemaster200 posted:Why is the new KLR650 carbureted? Is there is a reason for this I am unaware of? It's cheap and they managed to get it to pass emissions?
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Cheesemaster200 posted:Why is the new KLR650 carbureted? Is there is a reason for this I am unaware of? It's single cylinder, four stroke motor. They stick with carburators on old engines because if you change the engine AT ALL you need to go through EPA certification again. EPA certification is a million dollar plus undertaking. Bike mfgs don't make a lot of money per bike... so you can imagine they're not willing to throw cubic dollars at certifying motors. That's why we never got the "new" ninja 250. And our new ninja 250 still has the same motor.
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Cheesemaster200 posted:I found that a 650 was both easier and harder to ride then those Minsks. Mine was actually a pretty nice one as Minsks go; had been owned by a foreign lawyer who had it meticulously maintained at a good shop. Didn't mean it was perfect (especially after me beating on it for almost two months) but it wasn't as bad as other people's who I'd run into. The KLR is supposed to be relatively easy to maintain as dual-sports go but I don't think it'll be anywhere near as straightforward as the Minsk was  I know basically poo poo all about wrenching (but would like to lean) so it'll be an educational experience if nothing else. As far as riding I'm gonna do the best I can to forget everything I know, traffic here and traffic there are two totally different animals, and I've never ridden anything capable of more than 60mph (downhill and unladen).
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Nerobro posted:It's single cylinder, four stroke motor. They stick with carburators on old engines because if you change the engine AT ALL you need to go through EPA certification again. EPA certification is a million dollar plus undertaking. Bike mfgs don't make a lot of money per bike... so you can imagine they're not willing to throw cubic dollars at certifying motors. That's why we never got the "new" ninja 250. And our new ninja 250 still has the same motor. Err.. single cylinder, I meant that 
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Well I finished the MSF course. They put me on a fairly cool Suzuki dual sport (200cc or something) which although I could tell had been abused and was a little jerky in 1st gear was a pretty fun ride. Now that I actually know how to ride a motorcycle I'm a lot more open to exploring different bikes than the ex250. I liked the look of the Hyosung comets.. Maybe something with some more power, as long as the acceleration is smoothish through 1st and 2nd gear.
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soy posted:was a little jerky in 1st gear These two statements do not mix pretty much because any jerkyness was poor throttle control with a low geared bike.
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VTNewb posted:These two statements do not mix pretty much because any jerkyness was poor throttle control with a low geared bike. Could also be a really loose chain, depending on how well the MSF bikes are maintained, it seems to be hit or miss.
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Z3n posted:Could also be a really loose chain, depending on how well the MSF bikes are maintained, it seems to be hit or miss. I think it would have to be absolutely ground draggingly catastophically loose because the 82 XL250 I ride occasionally drops its chain off the sprocket constantly and doesn't jerk.
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VTNewb posted:These two statements do not mix pretty much because any jerkyness was poor throttle control with a low geared bike. It definitely felt less jerky once I was comfortable with the clutch and figured out the motions for the throttle, and the vibration/noise that smoothness gave off. Basically in first gear I figured out if I listen for the lawnmower noise, that is the most comfortable speed in 1st. I kind of felt like there was a bit of a dead zone at the beginning of the throttle on first gear though... I'm not sure if it's the same with all bikes, but it really felt like the first 1/10th of the twist didn't do anything.
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VTNewb posted:I think it would have to be absolutely ground draggingly catastophically loose because the 82 XL250 I ride occasionally drops its chain off the sprocket constantly and doesn't jerk. Possibly. I just remember as a new rider being very concerned with chain slack because it had so much effect on how smoothly I could get on the gas. I do agree with you that throttle control is at the base of the problem though, because good throttle control will help a rider handle any of those situations. I'd avoid the Hyosungs, personally. Their 250 is a sleeved 650, so it is heavy and really misses the point of a 250, which is to be light and maneuverable, and their build quality is absolute crap.
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So after selling my scooter last year I feel as if it is time to buy a motorcycle. I'm looking for a cheap bike, and do not mind doing work on it. Tomorrow I am checking out this ninja http://newjersey.craigslist.org/mcy/1436980493.html because it is only 20 minutes away from my house. I also want to check out this ninja 250 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/mcy/1438324088.html according to the ad it has been sitting for a while and doesn't run. Ideally Id love to think the only issue would be a dead battery or something very easy to fix, but if that was the issue I'm sure the owner would have fixed it. How do these deals look?
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Go for that 250. It's pretty cheap, and if it was running when parked, should just need the carbs cleaned and the old gas flushed out and you should be good to go.
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Thanks for the quick reply Z3n. Im awaiting a reply email, but I will update everyone when I hopefully go check it out tomorrow.
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1436665616.html How hard is it to fix a gas cap? $1k seems pretty good.. I want to get something to ride for the next 3-4 months until I am in a better place to afford something nice. Need practice riding...
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soy posted:http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1436665616.html I'd be very, very wary of that "deal". The gas cap should open no problem, and he's full of poo poo if he thinks it'll do 130...sounds like there could be bigger issues here than just the gas cap. I'd definitely go look at it, but I'd disconnect the petcock and fill the carbs directly to make sure the bike runs. There's a lot of red flags going on here...
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