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How? How do you book a team like that and not even tape it? This is now second on the list of awesome stuff I'd kill for but will never get to see, first one being the Skayde vs Mistico mask vs mask match. guuuuuuuuuhhhh
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HulkaMatt posted:Over at F4W they are posting scans from a lot of old Puro Mags. They've posted some really great ones. An angry kobashi drives the world quote:Also, I enjoy them using dan quale's spelling advice.
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HulkaMatt posted:Look at the intent in his eyes. Completely ready rip Dr. Death's head off.
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Grainbarn posted:Look at the intent in his eyes. Completely ready rip Dr. Death's head off. That's not intent. That's a blind Hansen trying to see his target.
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With the 'one thread' match pimping idea clearly a failure, I will now do said pimpings ITT. Here's the now-dead match thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3224126 I'll give a week for catch-up, and get back to posting next week!
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Why are Japanese fans crazy for Hayato jr? He looks like an escaped mental patient.
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Because his dad is a literally retarded MMA fighter, and because he can show fighting spirit while stiffing people.
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http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2010/01/14/puroresu-pulse-issue-162-a-preventable-decline/ NOAH 
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Ditch posted:http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2010/01/14/puroresu-pulse-issue-162-a-preventable-decline/ There is a link in that article entitled RIP. Its a list of dead wrestlers this decade and from 2000 to 2009 the lists get larger and larger. \
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Ditch posted:http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2010/01/14/puroresu-pulse-issue-162-a-preventable-decline/ I really liked reading about why NOAH is dying, it's weird, it's liked it's the x-division only with ugly guys who are worse on the mic. Sure, they can bust out good matches every so often, but they don't have the ability to have a company based around them. And the linked list of best matches is great, I loved the author explaining his top 24 choices.
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Not sure what you mean, I make it clear that with better booking they had a decent chance of staying good and keeping the fans.
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Ditch posted:Not sure what you mean, I make it clear that with better booking they had a decent chance of staying good and keeping the fans. You made the point about when booking hosed up, but it was clear from reading to me, that NOAH has always had a large problem of having too few reliable main eventers and few prospects for the future.
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Wazzu posted:You made the point about when booking hosed up, but it was clear from reading to me, that NOAH has always had a large problem of having too few reliable main eventers and few prospects for the future. Hm, you know I wonder if having too few main eventers is a result of...bad booking? Naw, couldn't be. 
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Captain Charisma posted:Hm, you know I wonder if having too few main eventers is a result of...bad booking? Naw, couldn't be. Some people just will never be main eventers. Mr. Afro, most of the guys NOAH recently released, even KENTA will likely never be a main eventer. NOAH can both have a dodgy talent base and bad booking, can't we agree?
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Rikio was a worse wrestler after his title win than he was before. Ditto Morishima. If they both got BETTER, and were thus more over and more able to lead stables and kick rear end on small shows, the company would be in much better shape. If you expand booking to include overall management, Misawa and Akiyama both needed to take significant time off at some point in the last few years and never did. If they had, Misawa would be alive and Akiyama wouldn't be a wreck. If NOAH had Rikio, Morishima and Akiyama as regular headliners, plus Marufuji as a threat (from his 2006 win), Sugiura and Shiozaki as rising stars, Misawa around for a shot every couple years, and one or two outside challengers a year, NOAH would be set. Now, Akiyama is out of the picture, Rikio sucks, Morishima is too fat to have a good reign, Misawa is gone, and that leaves Sugiura and Shiozaki. I struggle to think of a single decent challenger for NOAH to use after Sugiura beats Makabe. Sugiura being challenged by IWGP junior champ Marufuji would be awkward, and Sugiura being challenged by a recently-dethroned IWGP junior champ Marufuji would be even more so. Takayama lost three big singles bouts in the last few months and will have to wait until at least late summer before they'd have him put over Sugi. Taue is beyond salvaging. Saito? Yone? Rikio? Sano? Ugh please no. Wait, there's Sasaki. Okay. So they do Sasaki in April, then...... Bison? Then Takayama? Okay that gets you through summer, and maybe then you can put the belt on Marufuji. Meanwhile there's a 99.99% chance NOAH doesn't go that route and instead books one or two Sugiura defenses from the Ultra Suck Crew. Blah.
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NOAH always struck me as Misawa's playground. With him gone, I don't think the company will last much longer.
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SIGN KAWADA YOU STUPID DINGBATS
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coconono posted:NOAH always struck me as Misawa's playground. With him gone, I don't think the company will last much longer. Dragon Gate is a different market. There's nothing to compare it to in the US as far as how there's a wall between it and other promotions. Lots of 'regular' wrestling fans in Japan despise DG, and DG fans stick to DG.
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They really just need to establish some clear units again now that the dead weight is gone. - Hero, Bison & Walker seem to be the new gaijin fixtures (hopeully Claudio gets some more tours as well). Have them actually team together on a permanent basis, with Hero as the singles threat. - Is the Rikio / Kotaro / Genba / Yone heel unit even still around? DO SOMETHING WITH THEM - Give Go some unit support, maybe make him the patron saint of the last dojo generation or something. I simply don't buy the "NOAH has random booking and that's just how it's done" mindset. Because they had no trouble establishing units and conflicts between them in the early years. Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 15, 2010 |
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Burning vs Sternness was the best stable feud anywhere in the entire decade. Burning vs Kensuke Office was swanky in 2008. One thing that's vital, though, is having 4 man units to create a variety of 6-man pairings. NOAH doesn't have enough good wrestlers to create more than two good stables. One is tempted to say that the stronger parts of a stable will cover for the weak, but my experience with 6-mans in Japan is that a match is only as good as the worst wrestler in it. Masao Inoue and (more recently) Taniguchi have been the death of many potentially great bouts. Meawhile, Kensuke Office is apparently on good terms with Yoshie. ATTN NOAH: GET ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
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They also need to have yearly event like a tournament or some such. Those seem to draw pretty well.
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By that I assume you mean singles tournament, as opposed to tag. In which case I heartily agree.
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Milano Collection AT is retiring due to an eye injury 
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HulkaMatt posted:Wow sad news just keeps on coming and shows no signs of stopping.
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The differences in the current main event situations between US and Japanese promotions is fascinating. When it comes to US promotions, there's a wealth of talent people want to see pushed to the main event and given chances to become draws, which rarely happens, but in Japan it seems like it's the oppsoite. In the WWE the wrestler getting the biggest push right now is Shaemus, which is nepotic in nature, and both WWE and TNA half rear end and cock up most pushes, but they both have wrestlers that can have the potential to be big stars in the future. Tanahashi is the only wrestler I can think off the top of my head that has recently become a draw for a big promotion in Japan. Why is it that, for NOAH in particular, there doesn't seem to be many wrestlers that are on the verge of breaking through, or becoming big draws? Is it poor booking or lack of talent?
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Alpskeen posted:Why is it that, for NOAH in particular, there doesn't seem to be many wrestlers that are on the verge of breaking through, or becoming big draws? Is it poor booking or lack of talent? I'm going to guess that MMA is robbing puro of viable heavyweight talent. Also, NOAH's booking is pretty old guard-centric. Other than Shiozaki and Morishima(lose some weight, rear end in a top hat), their main eventers are guys you've seen for over a decade. When your old guys can't go anymore and you haven't been making new stars along the way, it leaves you with a main event that no one's excited about.
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Alpskeen posted:Why is it that, for NOAH in particular, there doesn't seem to be many wrestlers that are on the verge of breaking through, or becoming big draws? Is it poor booking or lack of talent?
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Alpskeen posted:Why is it that, for NOAH in particular, there doesn't seem to be many wrestlers that are on the verge of breaking through, or becoming big draws? Is it poor booking or lack of talent? All Japan has been doing a fair job with Suwama putting him against top guys and letting him look good. of course he has already held the Triple Crown before but having a sixty-minute draw with Taiyo Kea and an awesome match w/Nishimura didn't seem to bring stardom. Plus Hama is moving fast in terms of importance, he's way beyond any other rookie level wrestler i can currently think of.
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Big Japan put over more new guys in the last two years than most of the other bigger companies combined but I guess that depends on your definition of what a big draw is.
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 This is getting ridiculous Go Shiozaki is hurt. C/P translation: "He broke a floating bone in his right hand/wrist and I believe has some damage to his UCL(Ulnar Collateral Ligament) in his elbow." 
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...and NOAH's hosed. Literally all their draws are on the shelf. Super Delfin better step it up a notch.
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HulkaMatt posted:NOAH needs to stop for a while. Granted that might happen regardless...
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