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Mr. Deathy posted:I think it was me who mentioned that. Here's the cover by the way. I think it's from well before the Gedo fight but I'm not sure. Even if he doesn't beat Woli with a new Dempsey Roll, I agree with your theory that this is the last of the non-World Ranked fights.
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L.E. Cheetah posted:Since Ippo is kind of modeled after Mike Tyson, you guys should have expected this decline all along. Soon the Coach will die and a money hungry person with tall hair will take over managing Ippo, and the decline will begin in earnest. Nah, the decline will only start when Ippo buys a tiger for his giant mansion. ...A Naniwa Tiger! 
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pnumoman posted:Nah, the decline will only start when Ippo buys a tiger for his giant mansion. Are you saying Ippo would keep Sendo as his gay love slave? I call bullshit- everyone knows Ippo is a bottom.
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Kind of makes me wonder what the hell the perfected Dempsey Roll would be. What he did against Sawamura is nice and all, but it would tear the loving hell out of his knees and ankles. Is he just magically gonna be able to do that at some point with no chance of injury?
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Geop posted:Kind of makes me wonder what the hell the perfected Dempsey Roll would be. What he did against Sawamura is nice and all, but it would tear the loving hell out of his knees and ankles. Is he just magically gonna be able to do that at some point with no chance of injury? I don't think it will be as much of a problem for him if he does it again since he has built up the muscles in his legs and core to handle the stress of the start and stop Dempsey roll. The coach was saying at that time that he was building up his muscles so that eventually he would be able to do it.
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However, the new Dempsey Roll hasn't been mentioned in about 300 chapters and wasn't even hinted at during the pre-match training. Ippo never wins by pulling new moves out of his rear end; that's reserved for Miyata because he is a ~genius~. If it ever appears at all it will be during the world ranking matches.
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880 is out. http://uploading.com/files/get/dmfd852c/ In this chapter, Mori forcibly tries to remove most his fanbase.
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My early theory for this fight is coming true: Ippo is changing his strategy to "think smaller" i.e. worry less about doing actual damage and more about hitting Woli no matter what it takes. This is somehow going to translate into winning, possibly because Woli can't take hits at all, because he's probably not ever been hit before, even by his old man. I'm going to guess that his composure and focus to crumble once he's nailed. If Ippo was Punch-Out! Woli would have bananas circling his head once he's finally hit. OnimaruXLR fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jan 11, 2010 |
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Gonna read it in the morning. Uploading takes forever for me. But I read the description, and it's really laughable. This manga has shitballed it so fast.
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Oh look. Another chapter without Ippo landing a blow and getting his poo poo pushed in. Gurren Lagann: THIS. loving. SHOW.   Hajime No Ippo: THIS. loving. MANGA.   Honestly where did he go wrong. There is nothing interesting about this fight. He simply created some unassailable genius who is going to lose because his trainer told him to switch from his winning strategy that would have destroyed Ippo. Even AFTER he's switched to a boxing match instead of jumping all over the place he is absolutely wrecking Ippos poo poo in an INFIGHT where he is Grand King Poobah. gently caress this entire fight. Cannot wait till it's over. Infinitum fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jan 11, 2010 |
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Jan 11, 2010 05:59
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The best part of all this is that even if Ippo wins, the other coach can just be like "well, I wasn't expecting to win anyway.  "
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Can everyone at least say about this fight that they'll be very satisfied and entertained when Woli finally takes a massive punch that knocks him the gently caress down and wipes the smug look off his face?
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Mr. Deathy posted:Can everyone at least say about this fight that they'll be very satisfied and entertained when Woli finally takes a massive punch that knocks him the gently caress down and wipes the smug look off his face? Relieved is a better way to put it I guess. Although I would be tickled pink if ippo just loses cuz we aren't expecting it.
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After Ippo loses, he decides that boxing isn't for him and he goes on to run the fishing business which through determination and some luck becomes an empire thats sets him up for life. He sees Woli on television become a world champion, and he smiles -- his will passed along through the jungle boy. The End Epilogue: he gets Parkinsons.
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They could always change the focus of the series to shounen fishing. Of course, the Makunouchi family business isn't so much fishing as it is transporting passengers, but that is a minor problem. They could even keep Miyata as Ippo's rival, only now with a supersonic reeling technique or something (I don't actually know anything about fishing).
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Leonard Leroy posted:After Ippo loses, he decides that boxing isn't for him and he goes on to run the fishing business which through determination and some luck becomes an empire thats sets him up for life. He sees Woli on television become a world champion, and he smiles -- his will passed along through the jungle boy. Epilogue: That was all a dream because he is brain damaged and has to be taken care of by his mother.
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Mr. Deathy posted:Can everyone at least say about this fight that they'll be very satisfied and entertained when Woli finally takes a massive punch that knocks him the gently caress down and wipes the smug look off his face? Mogli will loose because of a rare heart condition and so his coach will have to throw the towel, but Ippo knows he didn't actually won this fight. So he will train harder so he can face Mogli when he gets better
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Infinitum posted:Epilogue: That was all a dream because he is brain damaged and has to be taken care of by his mother. But he's also developed dementia and keeps thinking his mom is Miyata. The dementia makes him think that he's fighting Miyata for the first time again in the gym and keeps beating the poo poo out of his mom. I don't think I've ever ended up disliking a main character as much as I dislike Ippo right now. Even more surprising is that the same things that made me like his character in the beginning is what makes me hate him so much now. I want him to lose this fight so badly, I know he won't but I really do (and he needs to lose again cause he needs a reason to give up his Japanese belt and stop loving around at the national level and move on to the world for real).
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Maybe Kamogawa will throw some bananas into the ring to distract him? Then maybe Ippo can land a punch. ... poisoned bananas.
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One of the major problems with the series now is that Ippo doesn't even seem to want to challenge Martinez. His only goal was to get sweaty with Miyata, and ever since that fell through he has just been treading water with terrible fights. Ippo hasn't been growing as a boxer for the last 1/3 to 1/4 of the manga. Of course, he hasn't grown as a character for much longer than that, but anything on that end is probably dependent on Kumi so I don't care as much. As lovely as this match is, it would become worthwhile if being smacked around and dominated by racist jungle magic fighting got Ippo to move forward a bit.
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gently caress this fight and gently caress whoever thought it was a great idea to give demigod boxing powers to
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ilifin posted:gently caress this fight and gently caress whoever thought it was a great idea to give demigod boxing powers to I'm all cool with Woli as a CONCEPT, but they needed to build him up a hell of a lot more. It would have been a much better fight card if they built up Woli as this undefeated champion who has NEVER taken a hit and dropped the 'found him in the jungle, this is his 3rd match and he is my last son' sctick. Like still keep the 'no footage of monkey man' angle, but have him with like 60 fights in some underground arena and he's only just made his debut to the rest of the world instead of this unopposed genius. Hell during the Bryan Hawk match you could have done some foreshadowing with a "You may have defeated Bryan, but my other son is now gunning for Ippo's title" Then I could understand him being this smug little poo poo with a constant smile on his face. THEN it would be satisfying when Ippo finally starts pounding the crap out of him as opposed to "Oh Ippo finally got a hit in, maybe this fight will end soon." All the Asian Champions have been fairly poo poo to be honest.
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Infinitum posted:I'm all cool with Woli as a CONCEPT, but they needed to build him up a hell of a lot more. It would have been a much better fight card if they built up Woli as this undefeated champion who has NEVER taken a hit and dropped the 'found him in the jungle, this is his 3rd match and he is my last son' sctick. Like still keep the 'no footage of monkey man' angle, but have him with like 60 fights in some underground arena and he's only just made his debut to the rest of the world instead of this unopposed genius.
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Monkey Magic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iUMWy4hqAg
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You see, Woli has never been hit, so when Ippo, half dead, finally manages to smack his cocky monkey face he'll be all "WTF? getting hit hurts? gently caress this poo poo!". Then he will whistle and his pet flying monkeys will carry him to the island of bananas, in the grand line, where he'll live happily for the rest of his life.
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trucutru posted:You see, Woli has never been hit, so when Ippo, half dead, finally manages to smack his cocky monkey face he'll be all "WTF? getting hit hurts? gently caress this poo poo!". yeah you wish seeing how this is going we will find out he was wrestling gorillas all along and is actually The Sturdiest Man alive and takes all of Ippo's punches never losing the and then Ippo somehow gets that green light in his eyes and you hear the theme song even tho it's the manga and starts winning with inhuman power but then Woli turns into a super saiyan and kills everyone and Piccolo has to step in
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The only way this fight can redeem itself is if Ippo goes berserk mode a la Takamura in his Hawk bout. Goes berserk and beats the living piss out of Woli. That would be quite nice  I can see what Mori is trying to do. He's trying to do a parallel to Kamogawa's bout with Sanders, but that was so much better. Sure, it's impossible for Ippo to fight someone who is several weight classes above him, but at least put him against somebody who is a way tougher than he is. Some dude who goes "oh, he hits harder than everyone I've been up against. Buuuut it's not enough!" It's just so aggravating to see Woli dodge EVERY loving SWING.It'd be easier to swallow if Woli wasn't a three-bout newbie. I hate bouts where the regular crew at the gym go "oh well Ippo's going to win so easily because blah blah  " before they even start the fight. I miss the days where Ippo was up against some monster and everyone would just go "lol ur fuked ippo".
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Swamp Zero posted:yeah you wish I'm pretty sure this would be better than whatever Mori has planned. ... but even if it wasn't, I want this to happen anyway.
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Coughing Hobo posted:I'm pretty sure this would be better than whatever Mori has planned. Gonna turn out that Ippo has been holding back. NOW I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO RAISE UP MY POWER LEVELAAAUUUUUGHHHH 
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Geop posted:Gonna turn out that Ippo has been holding back. NOW I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO RAISE UP MY POWER LEVELAAAUUUUUGHHHH But not after two years of training in the hyperbolic time gym.
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I bet the manga will own again once Ippo moves to the world stage. Which should be after this fight. Which will be 40 more chapters.
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tbp posted:I bet the manga will own again once Ippo moves to the world stage. Which should be after this fight. Which will be 40 more chapters. *shakes head sadly* This poor soul has been lost to his delusions. I gotta wonder, do they not get feedback? Of course, the japanese might have completely different tastes and just eat this poo poo up, but I gotta hope and pray that that's not the case. When is the author gonna get a clue?
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He started this thing in 89, I don't think there's much the editors will do about it, since he could probably have an off-yeah and still remain employed.
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LightWarden posted:He started this thing in 89, I don't think there's much the editors will do about it, since he could probably have an off-yeah and still remain employed. Well yeah I doubt the editors would do poo poo but I mean if everyone hates it then obviously he'd get the message. Of course, nerds in japan are probably like nerds here, which means if it blows they keep reading it just to complain.
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DamnGlitch posted:Of course, nerds in japan are probably like nerds here, which means if it blows they keep reading it just to complain. Defend it until the bloody, horribly-told end.See: Naruto
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Geop posted:Some folks just cling to a bad series and have no taste I honestly prefer an evil old bastard slapping Sasuke around while accurately calling him a failure to monkey magic bullshit that never ends. Not that one awesome minor character really makes up for all the problems that series has, but considering how bad HnI has been for the last couple of years it is probably best to avoid comparing them.
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