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My sister introduced me to Cowed, a terrible MMO sort of game where you play as a cow. In armor. The rules are really awful and everyone takes the game far too seriously. They'll ban you for not emoting yourself unsheathing your weapon before you attack somebody, or for actually daring to refer to your character as a cow (Despite the fact that they're obviously cows, you have to pretend they're human). They'll ban you for not using a "medieval sounding" name, for attacking somebody without a clearly defined roleplaying reason, or just because they don't like you. Of course, this makes it even more fun. One of the game modes allows you to choose a class, but there are a limited number of each available. Everyone always makes a mad rush to grab the King, because he can tell people to do things and if they don't he can kill them because he's the strongest class. Of course, this makes him a great target, since everybody on the game is an idiot roleplayer and actually does whatever asinine poo poo the King comes up with. They also included a crafting system that includes building lockable chests, and for some reason the ability to place people inside them. I've spent hours in this game locking people (especially the King) in chests and burying them in the ground, waiting around for the wonderful playerbase (such as ssjmunchlax and Naruto2495) to scream in the out-of-character chat for somebody to come find them and dig them up. The best part, though, is playing as a guard, and leading the king outside away from someone trying to trap him. Of course, just outside the door is another chest lying open for you to stick him in. Getting away with this is surprisingly easy, since the game lets you change your name in between rounds so you can become instantly trustworthy again every half-hour or so. I've even gotten away with blaming these things on other people I don't like and getting them banned, which is always fun.
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Algernon Quazar posted:I've spent hours in this game locking people (especially the King) in chests and burying them in the ground, waiting around for the wonderful playerbase (such as ssjmunchlax and Naruto2495) to scream in the out-of-character chat for somebody to come find them and dig them up.
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It's also great, because on the off chance they do find the tiny plot of land I've buried them in, they don't have the key, and by then I've already ditched it somewhere so they can't loot it off me. There's literally no way to get out of the chest until the round resets.
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This needs to be cross posted, I tried it out and its the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in WoW. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3250591
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FuzzyPickles posted:This needs to be cross posted, I tried it out and its the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in WoW.
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Pitch posted:... what the hell's it do? Just mark other players with an icon? It takes the raid icons, which are normally used to mark attack priority, and instead assigns them to other players, their pets, and targets randomly. You'd be surprised how angry this makes people.
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Zelmel posted:It takes the raid icons, which are normally used to mark attack priority, and instead assigns them to other players, their pets, and targets randomly. You'd be surprised how angry this makes people. I was in a Wintergrasp raid where the leader had this mod and probably 20-30 of the 40 raid members were sat well inside our base, yelling at the raid leader instead of fighting. The raid leader was there too, explaining that he was doing it to confuse the enemies with the rapidly changing marks so they would attack the wrong targets, insisting that they could see the marks (they can't). He was trolling them, of course, and one of the best ways to wind people up is to be deliberately wrong about something.
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Pitch posted:... what the hell's it do? Just mark other players with an icon? That little icon blinking on top of someone's head is enough to drive most pubbies into suicidical fury. People will drop out of groups and eat Deserter debuff rather than have a green triangle on top of their head, or try to start a witchhunt and randomly kick players. Not to mention what happens when someone's carefully assigned target icons start bouncing all across the group.
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Algernon Quazar posted:My sister introduced me to Cowed, a terrible MMO sort of game where you play as a cow. In armor. The rules are really awful and everyone takes the game far too seriously. They'll ban you for not emoting yourself unsheathing your weapon before you attack somebody, or for actually daring to refer to your character as a cow (Despite the fact that they're obviously cows, you have to pretend they're human). They'll ban you for not using a "medieval sounding" name, for attacking somebody without a clearly defined roleplaying reason, or just because they don't like you. Of course, this makes it even more fun.
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The Deadly Hume posted:drat it sounds like SS13 with bovines. Cowed is a BYOND game like SS13. One of the developers (not sure if he's a lead dev or perhaps even the ONLY dev) for Cowed, Android Data, is an oboxious and egotistical professionally diagnosed aspergers kid. He's 19 years old, has a paper route, believes that "socialism" (which is apparently his word for the act of socialising with humans) is a waste of his valuable coding prowess, and fully believes himself capable of superhuman regeneration. Like, he actually explained in great detail how he could regenerate a broken limb completely within a couple of days. Not that he's tried, of course. His massively dysfunctional existence aside, he also used to code for and host SS13 servers, and was massively outspoken against goons. How did we accomplish this tremendous act of grief? We made a better game than his. It's not exactly a conventional definition of grief, really - our team just put some honest work in, kept piling on the features, completely overhauled the graphics - but Data went absolutely ballistic at this. Here's a mirror of a rant he replaced his website with, and a page with some inspirational quotes from the very man himself. His forums are still hilarious anti-goon hotspots, where stories of BAD TIMES ON GOON SERVERS are shared far and wide (and massively exaggerated by Data's hilarious little fanbase). Some of the generalizations you see are terrible, and some come from players that haven't even played on our servers: peanut gallery posted:Always behind'ya, goons make me sick peanut gallery posted:Well I don't hate goons, but I hate just about anyone who'd gently caress with the server if they've had a history of doing so. Unfortunately, most goons do. They've given the good goons, such as yourself, a bad name. Hatin' on Data because one time he said he had Aspergers. Data posted:This is one of the reasons I don't like the goons so much. If the source-code has been leaked, you should work together to produce a game and allow everyone access to it; the goons instead hog their changes for themselves (not somuch a problem) and don't even release host files so the outcasts can host (more of a problem). I'm not really sure quite how well this fits into the much-debated definition of griefing, but it's certainly entertaining to see a kid get disproportionately angry at a bunch of people just because they made something better.
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I mentioned this in the Modern Warfare 2 thread, but I thought it could go in here as well. Last week I was playing MW2 with some friends, and we got 7 people into a free-for-all deathmatch game, so we decided to dick with the one random pubbie that it put with us. The game was on Wasteland, and if you're unfamiliar with the game, the map boundaries are marked by radiation signs. If you go past the signs, you get radiation poison and die. Anyway, we all chose the default riot shield class and the first thing we decided to do was form a phalanx and slowly march toward him. It actually worked really well, and we managed to block off any escape except for past the map boundaries so that he got radiation poison and died. After that, we surrounded him by taking turns tossing stun grenades on him so that he couldn't move. Once we were in position, we closed in so that we encircled him with all of our shields touching, effectively trapping him. He couldn't move or jump out, and he didn't have any semtex that he could use to stick to us. It was amazing. The best part was that his clan tag was G00N. I don't know if he was from SA or not; I asked in the MW2 thread, but no one fessed up. That got me thinking, something I want to try but haven't yet is to get three or so people to make a class that's got riot shield, stun grenades and one man army, then take turns tossing stun grenades on some poor soul while everyone else in your crew uses one man army to replenish their stun grenade supply. You could potentially keep someone stunned indefinitely.
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Pacra posted:griefing data by just "existing" and "doing your thing" is so deliciously, delectably meta. I love the absurdity of that kid, because he's a giant douchebag who nobody with the least modicum of intelligence could stand, he gets ousted from the goon servers permanently. He then goes on a rant about how the goons are super evil because they wont give him the source code to their server because he thinks somehow they owe it to the community to do so because the goonbase is by far the most popular base for SS13. So basically, he loved goon server, acted like a spergin' tard, gets banned, then rages out because the goons "owe it" to him to give him the source so he can steal it and make his new ANTI-GOON SS13Dxx1.3beta server. As was said before, Data basically griefs himself by becoming raged at goons just being goons. Zenodice fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 11, 2010 |
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Puistokemisti posted:That little icon blinking on top of someone's head is enough to drive most pubbies into suicidical fury. Pretty much this. Back when I played I used to make it a point to try to get raid assist or something from anyone in the BG's or WG. I have been given threats to hack my account, reported numerous times ("supposedly"), and even had a few angry children come to my server to make a level 1 just to continue to yell at me. It's an awesome mod, though I used BGIcons. Doing it on heroics is great. Doing it in Pubbie raids because you are off tanking and can is great too. I think the best were the rogues who thought that the enemy could see this ever changing icon over their head.
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To be fair the icon is quite irritating if you are trying to see poo poo, since the game is played in third person. But not enough for me to rage over. If someone was spamming that poo poo I'd just zoom into first person mode.
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Zelmel posted:It takes the raid icons, which are normally used to mark attack priority, and instead assigns them to other players, their pets, and targets randomly. You'd be surprised how angry this makes people. The mod doesn't just give everyone an icon over their head, every second it gives them a new one over and over until its turned off. I've seen someone in a guild raid flip their poo poo over a single static icon placed over their head. I cant even imagine how angry that kind of person gets when its constantly changing and bouncing all over the group.
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Even my RL friends who I played WoW with were prone to giving me poo poo in Ventrilo if I stuck icons over their heads. Something about it really just gets under people's skin and I never understood why. I just know it works and it's hilarious.
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City of Heroes 1. Often when running around the city you'll see civilian NPCs being harassed by enemies. When you defeat the enemies the NPC will run up to your character to say thanks and possibly give a small reward. They will follow you until they get close enough to talk, so using a flying character I slowly drifted though the air rescuing every civilian I saw, staying high enough so that they'd follow me forever and moving slow enough so they didn't leave my sight. After some time I had a huge parade of civilians following me which I could direct onto other players by hovering over them. NPCs and players have collision detection so any player caught by my swarm would be violently shoved around wondering what the gently caress was happening since they couldn't see me up in the sky. I took my crowd to the game's hangout spot where my rescued citizens dogpiled the newbie hero trainer, effectively preventing anyone from leveling up as the NPCs would push everyone away. In addition, because of the sheer number of NPCs running around the game was considerably slowed down and things would flicker in and out of vision since not everything could be rendered. Eventually after enough complaints a GM arrived and I was forcefully teleported down into the crowd where my inventory was instantly filled with junk from all the people I saved. I'm not sure if it's still possible to do this. 2. I made a hero with an ice shield buff that you could only put on other players. People are really anal about their character's appearance in this game so the roleplayers standing under Atlas statue all day become absolutely livid when you encase them in a bunch of protective blue ice cubes. I ran around applying the buff to everyone I saw eliciting tons of hate and death threats until I got bored. Tried to log in the next day to find out I'd been given a 3-day suspension. 3. People also like to show off their super cool black and red emo demon costumes so they hold little costume contests under Atlas statue where they line up along the edge of this pedestal raised above a small pool while a judge decides which character looks the best based on how many horns and belts their costume has. I mentioned before players have collision detection so you can only run around them but if you have the power to teleport you can warp to their exact spot, displacing them. Because everyone is lined up at the edge it's really easy to push people off with this method and they all get super pissed when you do it.
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This is from a while back but if you want a prime example of the perfect grief, this is it: http://looterslair.com/Episodes/E48/Index.html Thats some top tier UO griefing right there.
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fibblins posted:3. People also like to show off their super cool black and red emo demon costumes so they hold little costume contests under Atlas statue where they line up along the edge of this pedestal raised above a small pool while a judge decides which character looks the best based on how many horns and belts their costume has. I mentioned before players have collision detection so you can only run around them but if you have the power to teleport you can warp to their exact spot, displacing them. Because everyone is lined up at the edge it's really easy to push people off with this method and they all get super pissed when you do it. Imagine four comic book nerds standing on the edge of a cliff...
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Second Life Me and a team of six other people infiltrated the most well known "anti-griefing" groups in the grid and dumped this massive wiki they have assembled over the past few years. This group is notoriously hard to get into but we were shocked after carefully instructing our mole he got access to their locked the gently caress down, double password protected wiki within 4 days. We released it to the public on sunday and the drama that is beginning to unfold is amazing. The leader of the group is screaming about DMCA and the people being mentioned in the blog are creeped out because the "anti-griefing" group has been stockpiling people's personal info. This also has lead to great situations like being able to read synopsizes of some of the griefs I have been involved in and the fallout they have caused in their group. When combing through the information we found the GRIEFER INDEX and lo and behold notorious crazy catlady and prolific blogger Prokofy Neva was on it. So of course we sent her that along with the technical docs on their new banlink system. The idea behind "Phantom Zone" is to replace the old banlink system with something that gives them ban/eject powers wherever this system is used and automatically adds names of people they do not like to every sim's banlist that uses their service. http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2010/01/woodbury-and-justice-league-goons-develop-new-larp-ar-vw-rp.html#comments Next we gave the entire archive to another sl blogger. http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2010/01/justice-league-unlimited-secret-wiki-unmasked-by-the-wrong-hands.html#more More to come. Ephrum fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Jan 12, 2010 |
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Ephrum posted:Second Life This is pretty great. I have never been on Second Life, and never plan to be, but it's worth it to see the dude from whatever group you guys irked throw around his fake legal threats. I don't think he really gets the DMCA.
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HelixFox posted:I was in a Wintergrasp raid where the leader had this mod and probably 20-30 of the 40 raid members were sat well inside our base, yelling at the raid leader instead of fighting. One of my personal favorites in battlegrounds was to constantly share quests that no one should have completed when my team got all pissy about losing. It just made things worse really. It got to the point where as soon as someone would say "share the daily quest" in a group I would instinctively share http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Alliance_Needs_Purple_Lotus!. Also over the summer they made the quest log twice as wide so it would take up even more of the screen.
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Ephrum posted:Second Life What the gently caress edit: man i just do not "get" second life
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Francostein posted:One of my personal favorites in battlegrounds was to constantly share quests that no one should have completed when my team got all pissy about losing. It just made things worse really. It got to the point where as soon as someone would say "share the daily quest" in a group I would instinctively share http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Alliance_Needs_Purple_Lotus!. Also over the summer they made the quest log twice as wide so it would take up even more of the screen. I did that with this quest: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=3861 Cluck!
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Drox posted:What the gently caress I was thinking the same thing. It sounds like it's loving awesome, unfortunately I don't "get" the links at all.
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fennesz posted:I was thinking the same thing. It sounds like it's loving awesome, unfortunately I don't "get" the links at all. I mean, it's a great grief because someone is threatening legal action, but I just can't comprehend what there is to be so upset about.
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I dunno if some of this is really griefing, but anyway. Back in the day, I played The Realm which is an MMO released in 1995. Now, one major flaw in this game was that there was no way to trade items securely between players. You simply handed gold/item to another player, and pray they made good on the deal and handed you an item/gold. So to get around this, people used middle-men to do the deal. You hand everything to this person, they make sure it checks out, then hand the stuff to the respective parties. Cue my friend and I taking gross advantage of this system and ripping people off with level 1 characters that we would vouch for as middleman. When they teleported away with the items and gold, we'd pretend we got ripped off, but then later split the booty. Battlefield 1942: My friend and I used to play CTF a lot, especially on El Alamein. Now, there was a trick with the 2 seater German bomber, in that you could get in it simply by holding E as someone flew by. We'd steal it (or just take it if we were German), one person would parachute out and grab the flag and then run to the runway and hold E and get picked up by the plane flying by. Many people got angry. Battlefield 2: Maps with aircraft carriers were the best, as a friend of mine was very good at flying helicopters. I forget the map, but its a MEC vs USA map, and we'd take the MEC chopper and fly all stealthy along the water to the carrier, pop up real quick and destroy the AA on the ship, kill everyone on the deck for as long as we could, then bail out and get in the Blackhawk, positioned so that where people spawn, we were aiming the miniguns. Yeah, we got banned from many servers. Also this was before the days of "no spawn killing" servers, which I find stupid as gently caress. We also got kicked one time because I TV missiled the admins of the server 5 times in a row. Also, I was in GoonFleet. I wasn't very good at scamming when it was legalized for us, but I remember one of my Corpmates scammed something like 4.6 billion ISK in less than a week.
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OH WAIT THERE'S MORE!!! http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2010/01/justice-league-unlimited-attempting-brainiacwiki-coverup.html#more In the picture in the article I am the one with the large eyeball stalk propeller thing. http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2010/01/linden-gteam-and-jlu-improper-conduct.html#more I think we may get some LL game gods fired over this. Here's some chatter on it in an SL related forum. http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/39275-justice-league-unlimited-wiki-leaked.html Ephrum fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jan 12, 2010 |
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Drox posted:I mean, it's a great grief because someone is threatening legal action, but I just can't comprehend what there is to be so upset about. The leaked wiki has tons of proof that these guys are nothing but a lovely bunch of bullies that think the TOS don't apply to them. Oh and the game gods endorsing this behavior and egging them on in their never ending quest to live out power fantasies on the internet. It's kind of a big deal.
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Ephrum posted:The leaked wiki has tons of proof that these guys are nothing but a lovely bunch of bullies that think the TOS don't apply to them. Oh and the game gods endorsing this behavior and egging them on in their never ending quest to live out power fantasies on the internet. It's kind of a big deal. But what does any of this mean to somebody who has never used second life? Why is this a big deal? These guys were sharing and storing information on people griefing the game? I don't see why there's talk of legal action over this. It all seems so harmless and insular.
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Uncle Fumbles posted:But what does any of this mean to somebody who has never used second life? Why is this a big deal? These guys were sharing and storing information on people griefing the game? I don't see why there's talk of legal action over this. It all seems so harmless and insular. From the sounds of it it's personal contact information and data that you'd rather not have a bunch of power hungry jerks having. Sorta like how we're not supposed to be going internet detective on people. Only, you know, they're getting the information from Linden officials.
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Uncle Fumbles posted:But what does any of this mean to somebody who has never used second life? Why is this a big deal? These guys were sharing and storing information on people griefing the game? I don't see why there's talk of legal action over this. It all seems so harmless and insular. In one of those linked articles, it said these guys would message a GM directly whenever they wanted someone banned. One of the GMs was in their pocket and would act on anything they told them, and all of this was documented in their special wiki, along with their reporting tactics. They could basically punish anyone they wanted for any reason. At least that's what I got out of it. Second Life has the touchiest players I've ever seen and it should be the most laid back, carefree game ever. I played it briefly a long time ago, W-Hat was a cool area but the rest of it was all super serious and lame. Most reports should be just responded to with 'its a game deal with it' instead of indulging all the idiots.
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Put up an extra link to the wiki download and/or setup a torrent. I'm sure most of the SL goons and some none SL goons (like me) will help preserve the info. Edit: Actually does this fall under  ?Edit2: Apparently it doesn't, so if there is a running torrent i'll set up a seed for it. FoF fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jan 13, 2010 |
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Ephrum posted:They took down the sharebee downloads but those sucked and were broken, I have some on and off PN working on renaming all the files and linking them all together before we release the torrent. The zshare links on the sharebee links still work so i have a full copy. But I will await the torrent. Code Jockey posted:I'll seed that torrent purely on principle That's basically my point of view. Preservation of files and principle of the matter. FoF fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jan 13, 2010 |
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I'll seed that torrent purely on principle
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It's great, it's like they're the Illuminati of the playground. Impressive, because you're the loving Illuminati, but it's a loving playground. Have fun with your monkey bars.
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Uncle Fumbles posted:But what does any of this mean to somebody who has never used second life? Why is this a big deal? These guys were sharing and storing information on people griefing the game? I don't see why there's talk of legal action over this. It all seems so harmless and insular. It's got stuff like: "WE SUSPECT THIS PERSON IS ABOUT 17, HERE IS HIS PERSONAL INFORMATION INCLUDING HIS FULL NAME, PHONE NUMBER, ADDRESS AND A PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION ALONG WITH A SHITLOAD OF PHOTOS OF HIM. WE ARE PROTECTING THE GRID AS THIS BONY SKINNY KID IS A THREAT IRL AS WELL AS IN SL. WE ARE HEROES *circlejerk*"
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