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Serious Frolicking posted:I'm guessing Ippo will stay standing through the entire fight, and then the judges will give him the win on points because he is a japanese champ in Japan fighting a foreigner. this would actually be hilarious and would own, a satisfactory conclusion to this fight
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Sojourn posted:So, is there a decent alternative to this manga out there? I need something with the same general premise (doesn't have to be boxing) to fill the void now that I'm no longer reading it. Shamo is great, but it's basically Kenichi + Berserk. Which makes it amazing, but soul-crushing.
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Sojourn posted:So, is there a decent alternative to this manga out there? I need something with the same general premise (doesn't have to be boxing) to fill the void now that I'm no longer reading it. Holyland isn't terrible. It's about street fighting but the dude writing it seems to have a general idea about combat sports. It's still fresh enough (70 chapters) that the main character can bust some fairly realistic moves so you won't see poo poo like boxers using loving overhand punches when they EVOLVE (rather you get a guy who just punches to branch out and become more of a muay thai fighter.) There's even a bit of grappling in there!
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Feb 12, 2010 02:38
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Ahaha. Kenichi is nice but the fanservice makes me feel dirty just looking at it 
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Ippo's sort of unique in that boxing is a pure sport (with magical monkey powers), and there is virtually no fighting outside the ring. Most martial arts shounen emphasizes fighting over official matches. What little I managed to watch of Ashita no Joe (the other big boxing classic, but painfully archaic) involved Joe beating the living gently caress out of yakuza. Even Prince of Tennis has those hilarious scenes where they take on roving thugs using tennis. I can't think of any other pure sports shounen series that involve fighting, while most fighting shounen series don't have much to do with the sport. It would help if you clarified which you are looking for- sports or fighting manga.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Even Prince of Tennis has those hilarious scenes where they take on roving thugs using tennis. http://www.onemanga.com/New_Prince_of_Tennis/24/08-09/ http://www.onemanga.com/New_Prince_of_Tennis/24/10/ gently caress you eagles!
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page not found posted:Ahaha. Kenichi is nice but the fanservice makes me feel dirty just looking at it Yea but http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/349/17/ http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/349/18/
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      -mouse is the best.
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Kenichi is a hilarious shounen fighting series that only vaguely based on real martial arts. I love it dearly, but it isn't much like HnI when it was good. Kenji is a sort of weird manga about a kid learning chinese martial arts who at one point subs in for his school's boxing club and wins with a dempsey roll (a.k.a. 'shovel hook'). A lot of it is about the philosophy and history of kung fu, though. Also, take that you fuckin' endangered species! You should have known better than to attack a bunch of tennis players.
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There are only a few points in Kenichi where I thought the fights were absolutely incredible. Most of Ippo is on that incredible caliber, for reference. Kenichi usually his full stride nearing the end of major arcs when the poo poo typically hits the fan  Past that, it's pretty drat funny to see how the masters torment Kenichi.
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Cap N' Crunch posted:this would actually be hilarious and would own, a satisfactory conclusion to this fight  Well Ippo hit him once! Yeah but Woli is brown so it counts more!apekillape posted:Shamo is great, but it's basically Kenichi + Berserk.
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Eyeshield 21 is pretty good. It has the same concept except with football.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Eyeshield 21 is pretty good. It has the same concept except with football. Wow, I completely forgot about that. I love the living crap out of this manga, anyone who hasn't gotten a chance to read it I envy you getting to. Get on it asap, it's one of the best.
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Well, I care about football to the exact same degree that I care about boxing (not at all), so it couldn't hurt.
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Forest Fuckery posted:I think i'll start rereading this and hoping the last few fights never happen. You aren't mistaken, Baki is 99 percent ridiculous homoerotic posing, 1 percent entertaining OTT violence. If you think woli is dreadful (he is), you really don't want to know about Pickle  It started with so much promise as well
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Serious Frolicking posted:Well, I care about football to the exact same degree that I care about boxing (not at all), so it couldn't hurt. I dont give a poo poo about basketball or football but Eyeshield 21 and Slam Dunk are loving awesome 
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KoB posted:I dont give a poo poo about basketball or football but Eyeshield 21 and Slam Dunk are loving awesome I love the poo poo out of basketball and football is great too and Slam Dunk is way better than Eyeshield 21.
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L.E. Cheetah posted:I love the poo poo out of basketball and football is great too and Slam Dunk is way better than Eyeshield 21. Well yeah, but it's SLAM DUNK. Haha, it's way unfair, Slam Dunk is better than pretty much everything ever.
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I thought there was some news about this fight being over but instead it's just a bunch of talk about other series. That's ok though, because I am totally going to read Slam Dunk now.
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Slam Dunk is by the guy who does Vagabond right? Really need to give it a read.
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I just wonder, what will happen after this godawful Woli arc? NO YOU'RE NOT READY FOR THE WORLD STAGE YET YOU NEED TO FACE YET ANOTHER STUPID GIMMICK he's real good and was raised by kangaroos And in that matter what if all of the world rankers are one horrible gimmick after another ala Punch Out? page not found posted:There are only a few points in Kenichi where I thought the fights were absolutely incredible. Most of Ippo is on that incredible caliber, for reference. Kenichi usually his full stride nearing the end of major arcs when the poo poo typically hits the fan George Rouncewell fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Feb 13, 2010 |
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Sir Lucius posted:I thought there was some news about this fight being over but instead it's just a bunch of talk about other series. That's ok though, because I am totally going to read Slam Dunk now. Do this, because apekillape posted:Slam Dunk is better than pretty much everything ever.
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Jose posted:Slam Dunk is by the guy who does Vagabond right? Really need to give it a read. Slam Dunk is one of the most classic manga ever, and it's completely earned the title. It's the grandpappy of a lot of sports manga, and it's got a lot of funny cliche tropes, but the thing is that it's kind of the originator for a lot of those. It's like when you see Dragonball now and say "Oh, that's so common in X type of show", but when Dragonball was new it was the first time anyone had seen anything like that. Even having said that, I feel it's only half-true, because I never got sick of reading Slam Dunk or had to give it a pass based on its age. If it came out right this second I think it would still stand up as a truly phenomenal manga. Another one that is so good I wish I could forget it just so I could read it again. Everyone get on it, seriously. ------------ Also: Yeah, think about a guy writing a high school basketball manga and then doing so well with Vagabond. That's how great a writer he is, it's pretty much a completely seamless transition to me. Slam Dunk is just as good as Vagabond and it's a completely other animal.
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Jose posted:Slam Dunk is by the guy who does Vagabond right?
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I've started on Slam Dunk, and while it hasn't really grabbed me it is decent thus far. Considering it actually has an ending I'm sure it will get better eventually.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Considering it actually has an ending I'm sure it will get better eventually. This is actually pretty universally true. I think most of time when I get annoyed/tired of a manga, it's because I have no idea when the author will ever cut to the chase and end the drat. Or if he ever will.
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gently caress, I figured we'd had a surprise chapter out of nowhere and people were reporting in about how Woli's gloves had grown bananas out of the end like some kind of hosed up monkey-katars because he's such a genius. Guess I'll go check out Slam Dunk now that I've seen it get so much praise!
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Serious Frolicking posted:I've started on Slam Dunk, and while it hasn't really grabbed me it is decent thus far. Considering it actually has an ending I'm sure it will get better eventually. I tried reading Slam Dunk and just couldn't get into it. I can't find basketball interesting no matter how hard I try  Eyeshield 21 is pretty cool, though, largely because of the variety of unique characters.
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Ytlaya posted:I tried reading Slam Dunk and just couldn't get into it. I can't find basketball interesting no matter how hard I try
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Ytlaya posted:I tried reading Slam Dunk and just couldn't get into it. I can't find basketball interesting no matter how hard I try I hear ya. I've struggled through 100 chapters of Slam Dunk so far and it is boring the gently caress out of me.
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Serious Frolicking posted:I hear ya. I've struggled through 100 chapters of Slam Dunk so far and it is boring the gently caress out of me. I sincerely do not understand you people.
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Serious Frolicking posted:I hear ya. I've struggled through 100 chapters of Slam Dunk so far and it is boring the gently caress out of me. I'm exactly the same. I just couldn't get in to it
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I think it has something to do with how the rules on fouling are actually being enforced, whereas, say, something like Eyeshield 21 was all about dudes finding ridiculous ways to slam each other onto the ground.
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The fact is it's hard to keep any sports anime or manga exciting over time because authors always try to introduce new elements and strategies into every fight/game and they cant keep it up forever. Once you get to the pinnacle of what makes sense in the real sport, trying to keep thinking up new ideas beyond that goes into lovely gimmick country fast. Morikawa's problem is that he just stretched the manga out way too loving long and has strayed way too far into gimmick country. Ippo certainly did not need as many title defenses as he had before moving on to the world stage and the poo poo that happens in the background with Itagaki and the like isn't very interesting at this point and just serves to further postpone the only plot development anyone truly gives a poo poo about (Takamura and Ippo's fights, to a lesser extent if Aoki and Kimura will ever win a belt). I feel like Morikawa has decided he wants Ippo to be his life's work and is determined to drag the series out for as long as possible in any way he physically can think of to do so.
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I think Slam Dunk is pretty good. What's really nice about it is how easy it is to read. You can polish off 50 chapters in a day easily if don't have much else to do. One thing I really like is how retribution for arrogance isn't harshly punished. I really like that Hanamichi is a self proclaimed genius, and at no point has a struggled with this perception of himself so far. So it's like having a comic where Takamura is the main character, which is awesome. On the topic of Eyeshield, I enjoyed it, but I think they could have made it a lot more interesting in terms of coaching strategy. I know it was supposed to introduce newcomers to American Football, but after they taught the basics it seemed liked the focused more on ridiculous superpowered characters instead things like 3-4 defenses, wildcat formation, flea flickers, etc. Maybe that would be too boring for a lot of people, but I would love to read a football manga that takes itself that seriously.
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