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page not found posted:But if he lost, we'd definitely see Woli again. I don't want that. You are probably right. At this point, I want Ippo to lose. Very badly. While Woli is no exemplary fighter, at least traditionally, he's found every flaw in Ippo's style and exploited it to the fullest. Ippo has been fighting like a dolt for a while now, and not since his very mature Karasawa match did he act like "The Champion." The formula of watching Ippo getting massacred and then somehow throwing a miracle comeback blow should not cut it anymore. Here's hoping Mori breaks his tried-and-true FIGHTING SPIRIT writing style. Jedah fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Feb 28, 2010 |
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Nahxela posted:So who do you think is going to catch the towel when the Coach tries to throw it in?  Either way, Ippo's probably not going to have all his mental faculties about him for the rest of the match.
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Swamp Zero posted:EDIT: haha holy poo poo. Lose? He might loving die in there, for real Sounds good.
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Jedah posted:You are probably right. At this point, I want Ippo to lose. Very badly. While Woli is no exemplary fighter, at least traditionally, he's found every flaw in Ippo's style and exploited it to the fullest. Ippo has been fighting like a dolt for a while now, and not since his very mature Karasawa match did he act like "The Champion." The formula of watching Ippo getting massacred and then somehow throwing a miracle comeback blow should not cut it anymore. Here's hoping Mori breaks his tried-and-true FIGHTING SPIRIT writing style. Dude don't spoiler tag that, its just your personal opinion and this thread has more black bars than a Japanese gay porn film. Also let's be real here, there's no way Martinez can be the big bad guy for this series, he's pretty old and Ippo still has some years to reach him. He'll be retired. They might be prepping Woli for world champ.
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You guys DID see Ippo land a hit, right? Granted, it was blocked, but Woli was completely surprised and thrown back. If Woli lets up again, I think Ippo's figured out his speed. I'm throwing in a prediction for a completely out of nowhere counter punch that destroys Woli in one hit. Ippo's been getting those small taps for a while now. This match still sucks all sorts of donkey balls, but Woli is going to get murdered in 3 chapters or less. Calling it now. This is the last hurrah for optimism.
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If Woli loses now it will be because he makes a mistake. Ippo winning by being a better boxer is flat out impossible now.
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A great ending would be if Ippo manages to land a gigantic bomb of a punch, as his last ditch effort to comeback. Woli takes it, he's rumbly and damaged, maybe even falls, but still presses on, and continues to beats the hell out of Ippo. The Coach tosses the towel. It'd be proof that his strategy of using pure retard strength punching power is not enough. Ippo is back to his old ways of acting like a living punching bag. I feel like we've jumped back in manga history a few years. I'd respect Woli a lot more if we knew about his potential toughness and tenacity for the world stage. I liked Gedo a hell of a lot more when I knew about his history. Gedo could've been a fascinating character if we spent a few chapters exploring his history as a thief, his poverty and hardship, and maybe went into detail about how the gunshot wound permanently tainted him. Mori is excellent at setting up the house of cards for all to see, then knocking them all over very abruptly. He does this by following the same boring story arcs. Mix it up a little, guy. Jedah fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 28, 2010 |
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Latest chapter to be scanlated http://www.onemanga.com/Hajime_no_Ippo/884/
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tazman posted:Latest chapter to be scanlated Really? Is that the big game-winning logic that Ippo has reached? "Wait, he's right in front of me, so I can hit him!"
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An Outland Dish posted:Really? Is that the big game-winning logic that Ippo has reached? "Wait, he's right in front of me, so I can hit him!" LET HIM CUT YOUR FLESH SO YOU CAN SHATTER HIS BONE!!1
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Remember the Looney Tunes cartoons where Daffy Duck played Robin Hood but kept hitting trees? That's this fight! Alright lets do this! *WHAM* Ahlrrright letsh do thish! *WHAM* Arrghhllllriiiteee leszzz fo fishhh! *WHAM* allllllllrigghhhheeeeee fezzzzzzzz fo bishhhhhhh! *WHAM* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMNnZ5TRHsM
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Only good part was the coaches reaction at the end. Could easily apply to the progression of this fight. 
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I've never read Ippo, I want to though!, but after randomly reading that latest chapter, I have to wonder what the hell is going on. Ippo is like poking him with his fist while Woli is smashing his face in every drat page. How long has Ippo been putting up with this? Why is he not dead? And why does Woli have no emotion while he bounces around the ring? This poo poo is weird.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Ippo is like poking him with his fist while Woli is smashing his face in every drat page. How long has Ippo been putting up with this? Why is he not dead? And why does Woli have no emotion while he bounces around the ring? This poo poo is weird. Too long. This is the low point.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Ippo is like poking him with his fist while Woli is smashing his face in every drat page. How long has Ippo been putting up with this? Why is he not dead? And why does Woli have no emotion while he bounces around the ring? This poo poo is weird. Seriously for the first 600 chapters the manga is golden.
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Ahh, you people just don't understand. Woli is simply a fall character for the next boxer ippo will have to face, a paraplegic thalidomide baby who loves boxing even more and is a GENIUS. Mori's genius knows no bounds! Lamebot fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Mar 1, 2010 |
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Guyver posted:Seriously for the first 600 chapters the manga is golden.
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Right after Sawamura vs Mashiba, the manga truly took an enormous dive. While I am totally grateful for Mori's golden days of consistent high quality and story arcs, it's painful to see what the manga has become now. That's why I hope Ippo loses right now. It would mark a complete and utter end to this retarded trend of matches lately. Mori could re-invent his current path for Ippo's character from the ground up ,and maybe next time he steps into the ring he wouldn't be a complete fool.
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Jedah posted:Right after Sawamura vs Mashiba, the manga truly took an enormous dive. While I am totally grateful for Mori's golden days of consistent high quality and story arcs, it's painful to see what the manga has become now.  , he typically ends up looking the same in a couple of fights  I remember how earlier on Coach is all GOTTA WORK ON YER DEFENSE. CAN'T GET BEAT UP SO MUCH and nothing happened about it. Back to getting sledgehammered in the head for a dozen rounds 
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Personally I don't think the series has ever truly been the same after Ippo's second title match. Think about the title defenses he had directly afterwards. A boxer who was a DOCTOR who could analyze his injuries mid-fight. A fisherman who took you "under the sea." Certainly there were patches of solid fights inbetween, such as Takamura vs. Hawk, or Kimura vs. Mashiba, but it just never reached the peak of Ippo vs. Sendou.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:I've never read Ippo, I want to though!, but after randomly reading that latest chapter, I have to wonder what the hell is going on. You should give it a read. Ippo has been going on for a long time, and it is very good for most of it. It's just recently that things have gone downhill. As for this fight, we've got Woli, a racist caricature monkey-man, whose new to boxing. Using his monkey powers, and "talent" he's beating the crap out of Ippo, who appears to have completely forgotten what boxing is. Of course, our protagonist will probably come back in contrived manner. O. and Woli can levitate for some reason.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:I've never read Ippo, I want to though!, but after randomly reading that latest chapter, I have to wonder what the hell is going on. Ippo is an excellent series if you pretend it is over. Read issues 1 through 720, and then walk away. It won't be hard, the only reason you'll know that 720 isn't the last issue is because wherever you'll be getting it will probably have a 721. You'll have read a long, complete story full of pretty good fights, and you will be happy. Do not follow us into anger and hatred. I can barely remember how much I used to enjoy Ippo, and yet I can't stop reading it. It's like a hateful cancer. Don't join us! Be free!
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I hope this fight is all an elaborate dream cooked up by a brain damaged Ippo, its the only way that it would make sense.
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aaaaalllllllllllllllllllliihhhhhhhhhhfffeeeeeeeeooooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhh *WHAM*
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Morikawa is depressed and Ippo's about to take a fatalistic turn. Its gonna be some Zeta Gundam poo poo. Ippo will lose this fight and be so disheartened that he quits boxing. A bridge falls on Kumi. The naturally talented dark monkey boy country will invade Japan and be racist as hell and put Aokimura into a gulag or something.
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Well, if y'all still care at this point, chapter 885 is translated: http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/ If that Woli comment with the stool is supposed to be foreshadowing, then this is even worse than I imagined. No way those lame body blows have done any real damage, not buying it. Jedah fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Mar 2, 2010 |
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Jedah posted:Well, if y'all still care at this point, chapter 885 is translated: http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/ I just came in to post this. What a bunch of poo poo.
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Jedah posted:Well, if y'all still care at this point, chapter 885 is translated: http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/ *Edit:right-handed people tend to spring off their left leg more putting more stress on it
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Jedah posted:Well, if y'all still care at this point, chapter 885 is translated: http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/
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Hmm, did you BRUSH ME WITH THE STOOL?  Next chapter *massive internal haemorrhaging caused by Ippo* 
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Looking at it now, I wonder if his ankle got tweaked when the Ref tackled him. But Ippo getting the upper-hand due to dumb luck like that sounds off for the manga. On the other hand, his body blows haven't done anything. This is probably just raw fatigue. Remember that this guy only has three matches under his belt and has never broken a sweat. He's probably not used to noticing wear on his body in the ring.
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Haha the loving ref is doing more damage than Ippo
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Does the author have any idea of the backlash for this fight? I assume the japanese are equally pissed off and they can atleast communicate with him.
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tazman posted:Does the author have any idea of the backlash for this fight? I assume the japanese are equally pissed off and they can atleast communicate with him. Lord knows if he'll react to the fanbase. Lots of idiots (us) still read it, regardless of its poo poo quality as of late.
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tazman posted:Does the author have any idea of the backlash for this fight? I assume the japanese are equally pissed off and they can atleast communicate with him. I would be curious as to the break down of happy people who paid for it (IE people he gives a gently caress a bout) and angry people who basically steal it (IE whiny ungrateful bastards like us). People like poo poo. Look at Garfield. I would be very surprised if paying customer's reactions were anything approaching ours. page not found posted:Someone mentioned earlier that 2chan at least is pissed as hell about this, evidently Yeah but 2chan much like 4chan hates everything. They poo poo their pants over a goddamn episode of Gurren Lagann afterall.
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There's no reason to be pissed at this so much. Woli might be a bit gimmicky, but in essence he's just very fast, very fit, very VERY confident, and has good spatial awareness. All the gimmicky poo poo was just icing with no real meaning. He's winning because he can consistently avoid punches, while landing his own through every single defense gap, without second guessing himself ever. So yeah he's just that good, and Ippo is gonna lose because he's honestly pretty bad, and the world is as it should be.
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Swamp Zero posted:There's no reason to be pissed at this so much. You know, I honestly think this fight could be redeemed depending upon how they deal with the aftermath. Whether Ippo wins due to luck or loses, it's clear Woli is flat out better than him. They'll have to make some sort of change in the way he trains. Stuff like speed is hardly some innate talent (though it's possible a large portion of Japan might think it is), and there's no reason he couldn't become better at dodging punches or throwing his faster, or improving his footwork. What will be irredeemable is if Morikawa tries to somehow have Ippo "legitimately" win due to his guts or something. I have a bad feeling about this, largely because it seems like a large portion of Japan believes in the sort of video game "strength at the cost of speed" false dichotomy.
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I think it's pretty obvious how Ippo is going to win this. I've had the feeling for a few chapters but this one made it even more obvious. Woli can't take punches for poo poo. You don't make a character without weaknesses. Especially in a manga like Ippo, a character who is just god mode-ing every aspect and has no weaknesses is straight up poo poo. So if you look at Woli, he's got ridiculous speed, godlike reflexes and can make up moves and tactics on a whim. On the other hand he has no physical toughness at all. When Ippo barely scratched his face at the start of the match he was so shocked he fell over. When his coach touched him with the chair it disturbed him a lot. So basically this fucker has dominated for 20 chapters but when Ippo finally manages to land one, single, clean blow, he's going to get knocked out cold in a snap. That's how Ippo is going to win - he just needs to overcome Woli's overwhelming offense and defense to knock his weak face out with one hit.
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page not found posted:Someone mentioned earlier that 2chan at least is pissed as hell about this, evidently There is a big difference between reading this poo poo and buying it. If someone can find if the the number of copies of Ippo sold have taken a nose-dive then the author might do something. Swamp Zero posted:Woli might be a bit gimmicky, but in essence he's just very fast, very fit, very VERY confident, and has good spatial awareness. All the gimmicky poo poo was just icing with no real meaning. He's winning because he can consistently avoid punches, while landing his own through every single defense gap, without second guessing himself ever. He is good at boxing because he spent all his time playing with monkeys! That gave him true monkey powers like defying gravity. When a punch is about 15 cm away from hitting him he, somehow, can retract the arm he's punching with and hit Ippo with his other arm before the hit connects. He has gimmicky super monkey powers. ... and he jumps around like the idiotic monkey-man caricature he is (and loves bananas)
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Oohhh, so that's what was up with the chair thing. I think you're right about that indicating that he's a total puss about getting hit with anything.
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