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Globular Fellow posted:I dunno I thought that whole Ippo being scarier than a guy shooting him was pretty cool The end of the battles even the bad ones tend to be pretty good, or at least... do something. It's the middle part where ippo gets constantly womped by clowns that blows the most chunks.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 00:54 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 16:54 |
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I would've been a lot happier with the idea that Ippo has unintentionally used the one boxing strategy that hasn't been covered so far in the manga because it's a pretty boring way to win a fight: Making the other guy punch himself out. But apparently he is now magic.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 02:34 |
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Honestly at this point im hoping Ippo just punches Woli hard enough that he turns into paste. Hate this fight so much.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 02:46 |
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Zahrkon posted:Honestly at this point im hoping Ippo just punches Woli hard enough that he turns into paste. Hate this fight so much. Woli is gonna fall over before we get to see him get smacked in the face. We all want Ippo to get all Dempsey Roll on Woli's face for about 3 minutes straight, but I'm willing to bet that we'll be lucky to get even one big hit in his smug loving face. I think Woli could almost rival Aizen in smug-face.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 02:57 |
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Going to agree with Cowboy in that I could suspend disbelief for Gedo, but at the same time I decided to look back and take stock of what's gone down since before the Woli fight, because some of it runs together in my memory. Going backwards from before Woli: Mashiba's return - Showed Mashiba trying to fight without fouling and that he still hates Ippo, not that we needed to be told that last point. At the same time though, as much as I like Mashiba, holy hell does he need another thing on top of the short uppercut. That has been plain as day since his defense against Kimura. Itagaki showing off in front of Saeki/that other guy - In case you forgot that Itagaki was the Flash, this is your reminder, as well as stealing the Jolt, but it's otherwise not memorable. Takamura's most recent title defense - funny for the beginning where the crowd forgot it was going to happen, but an ultimately lovely match which wasn't good compared to his other lovely ones (like the one where he tried to do the look away). I'm only mentioning this because I think it was really that terrible. Miyata vs RBJ - I will say that I was getting into the match once it started, but remember hating the last half, or hell maybe even just the ending, at time of reading. Some of that was Miyata-hate, maybe, but this fight was also very long. Maybe it's different when it's not plodding along one week at a time. I want more RBJ. Gedo - Ridiculousness of some moves aside, I didn't mind this fight, and is the closest thing we'll ever have to an Aoki-ish fight against Ippo. I also have a soft spot for these two pages. Short series of fights with Itakagi/Kimura/Aoki/Takamura/Miyata - Alright fights, but they're not why I read (except I do read for Aoki/Takamura fights). Come to think of it, this was a lame Takamura match too (beetle uppercut), but I didn't mind it so much. Scratch J - Good fight, and this is about far enough, 151 or so chapters. Nearly 3 years, not counting off weeks. So, I'd say it's at least been a pretty 'okay' few years with some slow-rear end spots (RBJ, and now Woli). But it's fine, as the 17 years before it are great.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 03:31 |
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Eight-Six posted:
Yeah, the manga could be great again (Morikawa has shown he can do it) the problem is that, as you can see in your fight list, the pattern for the last 3 years is to go for more outrageous moves and techniques which ultimately hurt something that is supposed to be somewhat realistic. If you have an expectation of semi-realism and the matches are suddenly decided by hyper-senses, faster that sound punches or magical leg-killing blows then not only is the writing dumb but you feel cheated. So, instead of Woli losing for being an overconfident bastard, which would be a good, realistic, satisfying way to beat his rear end (that would have been great, a death blow into his loving face) he loses thanks to magic. Big woop.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 05:48 |
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Everyone in Ippo has special moves. The problem is, there are only so many actual distinctive techniques in boxing and the well has run dry. So, we get retarded light speed punches, Itagaki tapping into the speed force, loose gloves as an effective move and of course Woli's magic foreigner jungle body. The best opponents have been people whose special moves were just really good punches.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 10:10 |
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Again, always remember we're ridiculous manchildren and that this stuff is written for kids. Every sports manga ever tries to explain the mechanics of its sport by the "unrealistic" method of having every opponent focus literally on one fundamental of the sport (techniques or speed/agility/strength), barring the inevitable "cheater" opponent. The "godlike" teams/players are always the guys that know how to do everything well.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 11:42 |
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Chapter 890 scan Takamura sums it up brilliantly
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 16:31 |
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I've figured it out Woli was born with a congenital heart defect.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 16:37 |
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I figured out how they're going to elongate the series. At the end of the fight Ippo will have to relearn boxing through the use of flash cards.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 16:40 |
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:I've figured it out Woli was born with a congenital heart defect. He's got a heart murmur. Blood is being flushed back into his lungs. That's why he got tired. No oxygen to his muscles. Soon he will die from pulmonary edema.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 01:12 |
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This page is just beautiful. I can't believe it could finally be over, maybe. Maybe.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 04:41 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:He's got a heart murmur. Blood is being flushed back into his lungs. That's why he got tired. No oxygen to his muscles. Soon he will die from pulmonary edema. Sucks that it looks like this, but that's okay because Gils posted:This page This page. This page. This page. This page. This page. This page. This page. I had to restrain myself from cheering.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 09:18 |
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fivegears4reverse posted:Sucks that it looks like this, but that's okay because ef you I just opened all of those in tabs and was hoping to see a full half chapter's worth of woli getting poo poo canned.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 10:48 |
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Whatever I'm not even happy about it. At this point I'd rather have Woli as the main character.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 11:03 |
DamnGlitch posted:ef you I just opened all of those in tabs and was hoping to see a full half chapter's worth of woli getting poo poo canned.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 13:27 |
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Morikawa: just because you make Takamura point out that this fight is total bullshit doesn't make it less BS. Thanks. (End it already)
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 19:44 |
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trucutru posted:Morikawa: just because you make Takamura point out that this fight is total bullshit doesn't make it less BS. Thanks. (End it already) Well, Takamura's life slogan is: "I never lie about boxing." So somewhere, deep down, Mori knows this fight sucks. But yes, it is almost over, thankfully.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 20:00 |
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trucutru posted:Morikawa: just because you make Takamura point out that this fight is total bullshit doesn't make it less BS. Thanks. (End it already) So essentially we're getting trolled by a manga artist?
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 20:29 |
Cowboy posted:So essentially we're getting trolled by a manga artist?
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 20:37 |
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^^^ He is gonna kick your rear end!Cowboy posted:So essentially we're getting trolled by a manga artist? Didn't you know? Trolling your readers (usually with some sort of character) is all the rage nowadays. Morikawa needs to dump those glasses and get some radical sun-glasses stat.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 23:37 |
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what, those guys are boxers? They all look like nerds
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 02:21 |
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Those are the voice actors for Kimura, Takamora, Ippo and Aoki with the author George Morikawa in the middle. This is one of his boxers, Yuji Yamaguchi.
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 02:48 |
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trucutru posted:^^^ He is gonna kick your rear end! I think we'll see Morikawa wearing some huge uv-blocking sun glasses like Kubo Tite? I think we are seeing the rise of a new Aizen in Hajime no Ippo...
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 05:20 |
Wait, that guy's jeans are skin-tight and have an "a" on them. Japanese fashion
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 13:02 |
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Geop posted:Wait, that guy's jeans are skin-tight and have an "a" on them.
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 15:44 |
alkanphel posted:That's considered very normal and boring there.
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 16:19 |
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Geop posted:Some manga like One Piece and Bleach (from what I recall) will occasionally have some centerfold or some crap with characters in "trendy" clothes. I cringe and laugh every single time Speaking of cringeworthy if you check Bleach nowadays maybe you will notice Orihime wearing some loving dress that has like a circle or something around her arse, on black and white manga pages it looks like she is basically running around flashing that rear end.
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 16:40 |
Bisse posted:Naw that's mostly just Bleach. OP is more on the 'wear a hawaii shirt and ride a flying party elephant' route of things. Maybe dress them up as gangsters/cowboys or whatnot sometimes. I should really get in to OP, but Skypeia is so hard to get through My brother keeps saying DUDE IT GETS AWESOME AFTER THAT but auuughhhh
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 16:58 |
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Geop posted:Hah. I bailed on Bleach after Soul Society ended I hear it introduced a ton of worthless characters and there hasn't been much progression. - Gol D. Roger was on sky island. - A mysterious ghost repairs the Going Merry one night - There is this awesome part where Enel has the best OH gently caress face ever. People call it 'Enel-face' and it is almost worth watching the entire arc just for this face even if it only lasts for 5 seconds. There, now go skip that poo poo and get on to the good stuff.
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 17:04 |
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Geop posted:I should really get in to OP, but Skypeia is so hard to get through My brother keeps saying DUDE IT GETS AWESOME AFTER THAT but auuughhhh It takes a while to get through, but the revelations at the end of Skypeia (not just the ones Bisse mentioned, that dick ) are really worth it. And yes it gets really awesome afterwards.
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# ? Apr 15, 2010 18:47 |
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Geop posted:Wait, that guy's jeans are skin-tight and have an "a" on them. I bet you think that Nomura's designs for square-enix games are crazy as hell and not based on some of the ugly-rear end fashions on many popular Japanese subcultures. They are actually kinda restrained. (that's like the second hit for "japanese male fashion") Morikawa: end this crap soon. The off-topic tangents in here are getting out of hand. Edit: To add something Ippo-related: I hope that Morikawa has the balls to make Ippo lose after all. It is not too late and it will would add a real twist to the story. After all this match is not for the belt so Ippo won't lose it. ... On second thought, that would mean that there would be a rematch against monkey-boy later. Win Ippo, Win! trucutru fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Apr 16, 2010 |
# ? Apr 16, 2010 06:26 |
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Um, are those supposed to be men? Not cross-dressers, just men wearing men's clothing? If so, why is one of them wearing a skirt?
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# ? Apr 16, 2010 09:58 |
Serious Frolicking posted:Um, are those supposed to be men? Not cross-dressers, just men wearing men's clothing? If so, why is one of them wearing a skirt? I was thinking the same thing I was pretty confident in that being a lady! But not I'm not so sure!
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# ? Apr 16, 2010 10:36 |
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Geop posted:I was thinking the same thing I was pretty confident in that being a lady! But not I'm not so sure! Looks like he's wearing Boxers over his pants to me, but who knows with outfits like that.
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# ? Apr 16, 2010 15:03 |
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you know I have a friend who went to japan for a year for some foreign exchange thing. She's asian and into asian guys, but she complained that all japanese men were basically pussies and really effeminate. After seeing that picture, its easy to see what why women would complain.
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# ? Apr 16, 2010 22:07 |
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Zahrkon posted:Looks like he's wearing Boxers over his pants to me, but who knows with outfits like that. Those are kilt pants. They're punk fashion, and in this case, the Japanese took punk fashion and ran with it.
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# ? Apr 17, 2010 09:00 |
God, I'm sorry, but that HAS TO BE a girl
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# ? Apr 17, 2010 14:43 |
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PaleIrishGuy posted:Those are kilt pants. They're punk fashion, and in this case, the Japanese took punk fashion and ran with it. Kilts are supposed to reach your knees.
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