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As long as previous owners took care of it, no, the miles shouldn't make a huge difference. Judging that, however, is going to be up to your discretion. If I were you, I would try and find someone to look it over for me if you don't have any experience with bikes. Also, I'd offer $700. edit: new page  edit 2: "doesnt like the cold," means "I don't take care of my bike and the carbs are gummed up." Even though cleaning them is a simple procedure, I'd be wary of buying from him if I were just starting out.
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Uh, isn't that 12k miles?
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May 15, 2010 18:03
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the chinaman posted:Found a 98 Ninja ex250 http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1740678718.html That's 12k miles, not 124k. The white digit signifies 1/10ths of a mile. All stock 250s don't like the cold. I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Seems like a good deal at 750$, an ok one at 1000$. Edit: Not a big deal as long as once it gets warmed up it'll idle/rev with the choke off. Z3n fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 15, 2010 |
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May 15, 2010 18:05
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That's what I get for not examining the picture, I even forgot they can't roll over to xxx,xxx 
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May 15, 2010 18:28
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http://dayton.craigslist.org/mcy/1732580477.html I'm looking for a 400sm, but don't know if a bunch of mods should be a turn off. How does it affect gas mileage or reliability? It's going to be my first bike.
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May 15, 2010 21:44
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lwoodio posted:http://dayton.craigslist.org/mcy/1732580477.html It shouldn't affect it significantly. You're still looking at a dead reliable engine. You've probably lost 5ish mpg with the jet kit, but have made up for it with a much better spread of power and throttle response. Could probably still get 50ish mpg out of it with careful riding. Besides that, the rest of the mods are great functional/protective increases. Seems a little on the high side, but a nicely set up bike with a fair number of nice mods. Maybe try and talk him down a few hundred? Besides that, it looks like it's great.
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May 15, 2010 22:04
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lwoodio posted:http://dayton.craigslist.org/mcy/1732580477.html
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May 16, 2010 02:52
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the chinaman posted:Found a 98 Ninja ex250 http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1740678718.html Actually, unless my monitor is dying, that only has 12.5k miles. But I would be more concerned about the "doesn't like the cold" comment and the body damage. That poor bike has lived a hard life. It might be worth checking out, but be ready to walk away. edit: Beaten, many times over. A word to the wise, don't drink and post.
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May 16, 2010 03:19
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Flint Ironstag posted:Actually, unless my monitor is dying, that only has 12.5k miles. A wiser word, don't drink and post then admit to it in a post. 
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May 16, 2010 04:21
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Thanks for the correction guys . I took a look at it yesterday and offered him $700. He's waiting on one more person's offer before he makes a decision. The body was in pretty bad shape, but I figure $700 for a running bike is a pretty good deal, right? I'll find out soon enough if I have something to practice on. Meanwhile, the 2nd day of riding awaits  .
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May 16, 2010 11:29
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So, I got lazy and decided just to sell the ex500 project I picked up. For a $140 profit. After I took parts off, including plastics. 
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May 16, 2010 18:21
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AncientTV posted:So, I got lazy and decided just to sell the ex500 project I picked up. Step 1: Collect motorcycles. Step 2: . . . Step 3: Profit!
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May 16, 2010 19:17
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Tsaven Nava posted:Step 1: Collect motorcycles. Step 2: Perform hundreds of hours of labor Step 3: Profit $100.
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May 16, 2010 19:41
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Weinertron posted:Step 2: Perform hundreds of hours of labor That's what I was expecting, but it worked out to about ~2 hours of labor 
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May 16, 2010 20:01
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Weinertron posted:Step 2: Perform hundreds of hours of labor Yeah you only do this if you're a dumbass like me and take a completely broken down supersport on as a project. Cheap bikes are where it's at, I made more money on a 500$ F2 than I did on a 3500$ ZX6R, in 1/10th of the time.  Lessons learned.
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May 16, 2010 22:50
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lwoodio posted:http://dayton.craigslist.org/mcy/1732580477.html I was looking at this as you posted, as a possible bike for myself. Upon some more research, this is being sold by an ADVrider member, more pics and info available on it here http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=570352.
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May 17, 2010 03:56
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Passed the MSF and got the bike for $700! I took a quick trip around the neighborhood afterwards. drat, this is fun!
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AncientTV posted:edit 2: "doesnt like the cold," means "I don't take care of my bike and the carbs are gummed up." Even though cleaning them is a simple procedure, I'd be wary of buying from him if I were just starting out. Flint Ironstag posted:But I would be more concerned about the "doesn't like the cold" comment and the body damage. Ninja 250s don't like the cold. All of them. It's just how they are. You can futz with the mixture screws to make it better, but they are all cold blooded as hell until you do that.
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That's good to know. Since I'm in Texas, I won't have to worry about that outside of 2 month during the year.
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the chinaman posted:That's good to know. Since I'm in Texas, I won't have to worry about that outside of 2 month during the year. FYI: Cold to a 250 is anything below 70°F.
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May 17, 2010 21:36
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The 500s are almost the same way, but drat 
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May 17, 2010 21:54
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AncientTV posted:The 500s are almost the same way How cold are we talking here? My Vulcan 500, which I understand has basically the same engine as the Ninja 500, seems to be fine on 50 degree mornings.
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I'm possibly about to pick up a 91 DR350 (not S) from a local guy to learn on for $1400. My only concern is that I'm a short dude, 5'4" with a 28 inch inseam or so. The guy who has it right now has the seat all the way up. At that setting, it's about 3 inches too high for me to plant my foot flat. The easy things to do are to lower the seat height and replace the seat. Is that enough to get me 3 inches lower? I see that there exist koubalinks as a backup plan, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort since I can always get some different smaller bike.
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eviljelly posted:How cold are we talking here? My Vulcan 500, which I understand has basically the same engine as the Ninja 500, seems to be fine on 50 degree mornings. It is actually exactly the same engine. It's more that my choke is kind of jacked and I've yet to fix it, but yea, anything below 50 is a play-with-the-idle-screw start. Definitely not anywhere near 70 though, sheesh.
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Oh, I was looking to get an FI bike because mine refuses to start below 42ish degrees, guess I've got it good!
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Cry For More Fish posted:I'm possibly about to pick up a 91 DR350 (not S) from a local guy to learn on for $1400. My only concern is that I'm a short dude, 5'4" with a 28 inch inseam or so. I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam, and I took my MSF on a KLX250SF Motard with a 33.9" seat height - something that I thought was *impossibly* tall when I first sat on a bike last fall. The KLX is 302 pounds, your DR will be a good 50 pounds lighter than that. Leaning the bike over a little, sliding slightly off the seat, and having one knee bent, and the other straight-legged for long stops won't be a problem (That sounds awkward, but it came natural to me after about 3 hours of stop-and-go on the KLX, and now it's second nature.) I'd start with whatever on-bike seat adjustments there are - I'll be that you'll be comfortable enough with your mad skillz that you'll be going back up to the "up" height in a month or two.
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Cry For More Fish posted:I'm possibly about to pick up a 91 DR350 (not S) from a local guy to learn on for $1400. My only concern is that I'm a short dude, 5'4" with a 28 inch inseam or so. Whats also important is making sure you know the proper kickstart routine, and if you are capable of starting the bike up. Early DR350s were complete bitches to kickstart- something about a smaller sprocket on the early models. My '91 was a bastard, and none of my shorter friends had long enough legs or leverage to be able to kick it.
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Jabs posted:I've got about 400 miles under my belt now, and I'm to the point where I'm of the belief that 'flatfooting is overrated'. If you can get the ball of your foot on one side, and the tiptoes of the other while centered in the seat, you'll do juuust fine. DR is about 50 pounds heavier than the KLX250. Also, seat height doesn't tell the entire story...it's measured unloaded, so when you sit on a motorcycle with long travel suspension, you can drop 2-4 inches of seat height just under your weight alone...plus there's the narrowness of the seat to take into account as well.
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Been waiting for a couple months now for a sub-$1000 motorcycle deal to show up on Craigslist. Now there are a couple...quote:'86 Yamaha Radian YX600 - Great Condition, 12Kmi quote:1980 Honda CB750(F/C) The first one is $900 and the second is $700. The Honda needs some "tlc" according to the seller.
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No title, no sale.
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Beware of the mid-80s YamahaHAHAHAHAHAHA electrics.
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Doctor Zero posted:No title, no sale.
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Endless Mike posted:Seriously how do you "lose" a title? Go to the DMV or whatever and get a new one. They SHOULD have proof of you owning it, right? Yeah, unless you are talking about something incredibly rare to make the hassle worth the trouble of straightening it out, just walk away if the paperwork isn't right. The bikes most of us will be buying are mass produced, so even if you have your heart set on a particular year/make/model, there will be another one along soon. Don't fall in love with a machine, at least one you don't own yet.
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http://annarbor.craigslist.org/mcy/1748208764.htmlquote:I have a 1977 Kawasaki KZ400. Its a great little bike. Needs a little work but not much. Battery needs replaced, needs new chain, needs the shifter lever spring replaced, needs new back tire, and needs carbs cleaned and adjusted. It runs great as is but with a little work it will run alot better. I am only asking $750 I reallly need the money which is the only reason I am selling it. Lowballers will be laughed at. Yes I need the money but I know what my bike is worth! If you are intrested please feel free to call or text me at. E-mails will not answered! No spam please. Also please do not waste my time their will be no test ride unless you have money in hand. He offered me a helmet, trickle charger, cover, and transport to my place for $800, but the KBB value for an excellent condition kz400 of this year is only $700, so I am going to offer him $500. What do you guys think?
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How can something run "great" but with a little work run "a lot better"? What's a lot better than great?
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frozenphil posted:How can something run "great" but with a little work run "a lot better"? What's a lot better than great? Excellent.  I think that's a lot of little stuff that will add up. None of them alone would be too worrisome, but all of them? Especially since nearly all of that could be done with little effort on his part. Tells me he might not have taken care of it. Might be worth $500, IF you can see it start up from cold (perhaps with a jump - seriously, putting a new battery in a bike is the easiest loving thing in the world, why doesn't it have one?). The more I think of it, the more there's something that doesn't smell quite right. Maybe if he's willing to do some of that himself, then you can offer him more.
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Doctor Zero posted:Excellent. He said it needs to be kicked, so I guess the battery is no good at all?
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Stoic Commie posted:He said it needs to be kicked, so I guess the battery is no good at all? Ah could be. Still, a battery is like $45 and 5 minutes to put it in. So why hasn't he replaced it? Same with the chain. When easy things are wrong and the seller hasn't bothered to fix them it should give you pause. "All it needs is a battery" can also be code for "Something really horrible is bad with this bike, so I don't want you trying to start it to be able to tell." "Needs carb cleaning" can also be code for "This engine is totally shot, but I don't want you to know that." Having both in the same description gives me the chills. Having said that, sometimes that's all it needs is a battery and a carb cleaning. The problem is it's hard to know if it's true or not until its too late. $500 isn't a bad price to gamble with, in my opinion. Keep in mind that you know for sure that you need a battery, chain, and back tire. I'd call that maybe $300. So right there $750 for a bike in good condition - $300 = $450. That's assuming that there is nothing else horrible with it. Having it started from cold in front of you will go a long way toward reducing your fears.
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Actually, the charging system could be hosed. That'd be easily another 100-200$, and I wouldn't put it past that. This is the downside to kickstarts, they make bikes with torched charging systems appear to work as long as the charging system still puts out enough to fire the plugs (which it almost always does).
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He said he wouldn't go below $675, I said no. The search continues for another summer. I wouldn't have bought it anyway without being able to see that the electric start works.
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