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Slappy Moose posted:Yeah, I've never won a hand. I don't play Texas Hold'em in real life so I don't loving know what the hands are and the fact the game doesn't have any kind of reference page at all really fucks me over. Also, the fact you can't just shoot the winner and take their winnings is retarded. Doesn't stop me from doing it out of spite and annoyance, though. How does a person grow up not knowing how to play one of the two mainstay card games of our day and age? I'm being serious. I mean, if they had thrown Gin Rummy at us or something, I could understand, but it's loving poker. At least the basics of the hands is mostly common knowledge to anyone that grows up in a western country (and if you're not in a western country, then nevermind) but it's really straight forward, at least at the basic hand level, and excluding the table in Blackwater, the poker hands generally are very simplistic, for the most part, on the AI's end. Two pair beats one pair Three of a kind beats two pair Seriously, if you just know that, you can easily flush out the table in Armadillo and Chuparosa. Just don't bet like a maniac when you have lovely cards. That's if you know nothing about the game and haven't learned to predict the AI in the game... if you even just know all the basic hands in poker (there's technically only 9) you can be way more aggressively than that.
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GruntyThrst posted:The best part is when some rear end in a top hat beats your two pair with 3 of a kind on a big pot you can just plug him in the face with your peacemaker. This poo poo gets on my nerves. I'm almost certain now that the computer cheats by changing its own pocket cards because I'll have a crazy hand like a straight flush, a full house, or a three of a kind and the other AI that stayed in and called all of my bets has something JUST high enough to beat my hand. It happens far too often to be mere coincidence. I've shot up many poker tables 
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:This poo poo gets on my nerves. I'm almost certain now that the computer cheats by changing its own pocket cards because I'll have a crazy hand like a straight flush, a full house, or a three of a kind and the other AI that stayed in and called all of my bets has something JUST high enough to beat my hand. It happens far too often to be mere coincidence. That's kinda funny because several times I've been in the same situation and the AI was either bluffing or I JUST beat him out. I've had some hilariously random upsets where I went from having nothing to a flush on the river, and the AI was all cocky with its full house thinking it had won. Goddamn I have far too much fun playing poker in this game. Not as much fun now with (endgame spoiler)Jack, mainly because his Poker commentary loving sucks compared to John's. Also, his voice.
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Houdini posted:Can someone confirm that I'm not alone in not having a clue about how to play poker. I have absolutely no clue how to play, I just exploit the hell out of the AI. I just start raising every turn no matter what and make it go higher and higher until everyone folds and I get the pot. I don't quite get why this works, but I've gotten the "2000 chips" achievement and have won $250 many times over. Just play like a spastic retard who likes to raise and for some reason you'll win pretty easily.
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Fuzz posted:How does a person grow up not knowing how to play one of the two mainstay card games of our day and age? I'm being serious. I mean, if they had thrown Gin Rummy at us or something, I could understand, but it's loving poker. At least the basics of the hands is mostly common knowledge to anyone that grows up in a western country (and if you're not in a western country, then nevermind) but it's really straight forward, at least at the basic hand level, and excluding the table in Blackwater, the poker hands generally are very simplistic, for the most part, on the AI's end. I know some of it, it's just that I don't play cards very often, so I don't bother to remember the various hands. My memory isn't fantastic so I pick and choose what to know about, and card games are not something I care about. Besides that, the AI in the game always seems to read your mind so even if you get good cards they will always fold no matter what. Cowman posted:I have absolutely no clue how to play, I just exploit the hell out of the AI. I just start raising every turn no matter what and make it go higher and higher until everyone folds and I get the pot. I don't quite get why this works, but I've gotten the "2000 chips" achievement and have won $250 many times over. Just play like a spastic retard who likes to raise and for some reason you'll win pretty easily. I'll give this a go.
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LAST MISSION SPOILERS BE HERE During the cutscene right before the final shootout I was telling miself "Okay, go into Deadeye and kill all these motherfuckers." But then when it started it automatically puts you in deadeye mode. I clicked the RS and it turned it off, and I got filled with holes.  And I think people saying "I don't know how to play poker" basically mean "I don't know any of the hands". Come on people, it's not that hard! explosivo fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jun 6, 2010 |
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Jun 6, 2010 20:18
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explosivo posted:LAST MISSION SPOILERS BE HERE You know, someone was asking before, but actually... if you have the Evan's Repeater out, could you theoretically gun down every one of those army guys? I wonder. EDIT: Nevermind, I just remembered they default you to your handgun slot automatically, and there's no handgun with enough ammo to kill every one of those soldiers.
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Fuzz posted:You know, someone was asking before, but actually... if you have the Evan's Repeater out, could you theoretically gun down every one of those army guys? I wonder. I think it automatically gives you your pistol and forces you into Deadeye so you can't actually pull this off. I'm pretty sure I had my repeater out during the whole fight prior to the shootout. Edit: 
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I worked in a casino for a year and still don't really know how to play poker. I have a pretty good idea when I have a good hand but can never remember what beats what. Mostly has to do with it being really boring and un-fun. I like more immersive things like, um, video games.
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spidoman posted:Anyone have any tips on finding big horn sheep? I keep searching the areas marked on the map but they seem to be rarer than anything else. Is there a specific time of day that they come out? This may be a 1000 messages too late but on your map there is a bighorn icon that's kind of obscured by Rathskellerk Fork, right beside a wolf or coyote marker, I shot them before I ever got to tall trees in between Rathwhatever Fork and Twin Rocks. Otherwise look at your map around Tall Trees there are three animal icons all together there, one of them is bighorn. Poker hands best to worst with examples for poker novices. straight flush (all in order and same suit, ex: A,K,Q,J,10 all of clubs; example is the best, the royal flush) four of a kind (duh) full house (three of a kind plus a pair, ex: Q,Q,Q,5,5 = "queens over fives") flush (all same suit, ex: 4,8,2,A,J all hearts) straight (in order, ex: A,2,3,4,5) three of a kind (duh) two pair (duh) pair (duh) PSN ID(PS4): Steamshovel_Dan WiiU: Steamshovel (not playing it ATM) Golgozor fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jun 6, 2010 |
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leidend posted:I worked in a casino for a year and still don't really know how to play poker. I have a pretty good idea when I have a good hand but can never remember what beats what. Order goes: High card (You have jackshit and your hand is based on the card of highest value) 1 Pair 2 Pair 3 of a Kind Straight (Cards all count upwards in order) Flush (All cards are of the same suit) Full House (3 of a kind and 1 pair, read as "[three of a kind face] over [pair face]") 4 of a Kind Straight Flush (Cards all count upwards in order and are all the same suit) Depending on where you play, (specifically with Hold'Em, that is) a Flush sometimes is higher than a Full House. The power of a hand is entirely based on the probability of you being dealt it, which is why with Hold'Em, a Full House's probability is actually a little higher, whereas a Flush's probability actually ends up being slightly lower. In RDR, a Full House beats a Flush. In terms of gauging comparable hands, higher card values win basically always, with the exception being a flush. If they're the same card values, higher suits win. Suit order from lowest to highest is Diamonds, Clubs, Hearts, and then Spades, so a Spade flush always beats a Club flush, regardless of the value of the actual cards involved. If you legitimately end up tying, the pot is split, which I have had happen to me once in this game in Blackwater, so it does actually follow all of the rules. EDIT: And because it's all Hold'Em, it's actually physically impossible for two people to have flushes of different suits, so that exception rule is actually a moot point. This is another reason that Flushes are often considered higher value than Full Houses in Hold'Em. ALFbrot posted:I kind of dig the way you can switch your third-person shoulder orientation by hitting left and right on the d-pad. Yeah, that's something from Uncharted that I seriously wish every game would let you do nowadays. There's really no excuse. In Uncharted 1 and 2 it was actually even easier since you just clicked in R3 to do it, but obviously that wouldn't work in this since that's DeadEye. Fuzz fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jun 6, 2010 |
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Jun 6, 2010 20:34
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I kind of dig the way you can switch your third-person shoulder orientation by hitting left and right on the d-pad.
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Last night I got Sharpshooter Rank 9 in the oddest way. I had already disarmed 2 people, but had yet to shoot the hats off of 2 people (I was planning to head back to Mexico to do that). Instead I completed the challenge during the late game mission where you have to stop the crows from eating the corn out of the silo. It was pretty funny shooting at them and seeing the challenge complete come up. Maybe they had tiny hats on?
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Protip posted:Last night I got Sharpshooter Rank 9 in the oddest way. I had already disarmed 2 people, but had yet to shoot the hats off of 2 people (I was planning to head back to Mexico to do that). Instead I completed the challenge during the late game mission where you have to stop the crows from eating the corn out of the silo. It was pretty funny shooting at them and seeing the challenge complete come up. Maybe they had tiny hats on? Are you sure that wasn't the "Shoot 6 wild animals" one?
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ALFbrot posted:I kind of dig the way you can switch your third-person shoulder orientation by hitting left and right on the d-pad. Me too, although the sperger in me is like "They could've just had a one-button toggle for that and had a whole other button to do something with", although I can't actually think of anything. Oh, maybe a quick map button. Yeah, that'd be nice.
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Crappy Jack posted:Oh, maybe a quick map button. Yeah, that'd be nice.
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explosivo posted:Are you sure that wasn't the "Shoot 6 wild animals" one? Awww, you're right. I guess I had completed the previous challenge without realizing it, I must have done it in the middle of a fire fight. And here I thought the game had glitched in a funny way for me.
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ALFbrot posted:I kind of dig the way you can switch your third-person shoulder orientation by hitting left and right on the d-pad. I never tried this, but does it also change your character's handedness? It'd be cool if a game actually did something like that for left-handed people who would naturally sight with their dominant left eye. On an unrelated note, I noticed some people complaining about Liar's Dice earlier in the thread. I played a round the other day, and not only was it pretty clear how to play but it's also incredibly easy to win. The AI always seems to make the dumbest bluffs (Hmm, you say there's five ones and there are only four dice left? Sure, sounds reasonable) and they call you out for reasonable bets. It doesn't pay worth a drat but it's not difficult at all.
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Tewratomeh posted:I never tried this, but does it also change your character's handedness? It'd be cool if a game actually did something like that for left-handed people who would naturally sight with their dominant left eye. Left-handed people don't necessarily have a dominant left eye. I shoot righty.
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So, is there any purpose for the skins/meat/etc. other than selling them? The first (and so far only) time I jumped on multiplayer, I was invited to a posse that said they were hunting for Sasquatch. Since I had no idea what I was doing, I just got lost and mauled by cougars. I got the distinct impression that I was being hosed with.
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enigmahfc posted:So, is there any purpose for the skins/meat/etc. other than selling them? If you beat the Hunter challenges you get vittles for skinning animals, which act like medicine. And yeah, you were being hosed with.
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Tewratomeh posted:I never tried this, but does it also change your character's handedness? It'd be cool if a game actually did something like that for left-handed people who would naturally sight with their dominant left eye. The only game I've seen that happen in is Infamous. If you do the switch shoulder view thing in that game Cole will switch which hand he's firing electric bolts from.
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END GAME SPOILERS OH GOD Is it just me, or does Jack's model's face always look like it's swollen as gently caress? He literally looks like he got stung by bees/hit with a phonebook over and over. He woulda looked better with less hair too, because the long hair and trailer 'stache make him look like he's supposed to be a little older than his voice gives away, and it's just awkward. So strange that they bombed Jack so hard, judging by the collective public opinion  Also, Spitshine's post Spitshine posted:
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MP Solomon's Folly (PS3 Exclusive Hideout) PVP Protipzzzz:
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Whoa Black Betty posted:END GAME SPOILERS OH GOD Is it just me, or does Jack's model's face always look like it's swollen as gently caress? He literally looks like he got stung by bees/hit with a phonebook over and over. He woulda looked better with less hair too, because the long hair and trailer 'stache make him look like he's supposed to be a little older than his voice gives away, and it's just awkward. So strange that they bombed Jack so hard, judging by the collective public opinion To me it seemed like they were shooting for an Inigo Montoya look as a sort of story reference.
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Obsurveyor posted:You can hit start then A without waiting for the menu and it will immediately show the map. This is actually one of my favorite things about the game  The menu is so drat fast, so easy to fly through the options.
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Any PS3 folks up for forming a posse tonight around 10pm EST? I have been playing SP all week, and miss retarded shenanigans.
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Lumpy posted:Any PS3 folks up for forming a posse tonight around 10pm EST? I have been playing SP all week, and miss retarded shenanigans. If I'm not playing Lost Planet 2 when I get back from the airport to pick up my folks, sure.
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braden posted:This is actually one of my favorite things about the game I love this. Devs need to take note on streamlined menus. I love this about the outfitter too, you can fly though the options if you know where you're going without having to wait for the visual cues.
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Fuzz posted:How does a person grow up not knowing how to play one of the two mainstay card games of our day and age? Because prior to 10 years ago, no one played poker but lowlifes, compulsive gamblers, and men getting away from their abrasive wives for the night. Plus, video games a poo poo. Who wants to learn to play poker when Zelda needs saving.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Because prior to 10 years ago, no one played poker but lowlifes, compulsive gamblers, and men getting away from their abrasive wives for the night. Also when most people think poker they think Five Card Draw and not Texas Hold 'Em.
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Just watching it this game seems really reminiscent of Gun. Which, to be fair, was Activision basically stealing GTA and reskinning it as a western in the first place. But what's striking is it really seems to have more in common with Gun than with Red Dead Revolver, which I really loved but wasn't much of a sandbox. So I wish they released a little more of a successor to Revolver in gameplay as well as "spirit." About all I recognize as a carry-over is the quickdraw.
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I find it interesting that people complain so much about Jack's voice considering most of the bitching on the forums pre-release were focused on John's voice. The social club 100% page sure updates oddly. It still doesn't show the last 6 or 7 missions, but the percentage complete is correct. It also hasn't updated all of the bounty locations and so I'm not sure which ones I have left. Only like 2 remaining.
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ALFbrot posted:I kind of dig the way you can switch your third-person shoulder orientation by hitting left and right on the d-pad. I like that as well, but it keeps loving resetting my view to left, when I always prefer the right. Some sort of setting in options for this would be great, like a "go to left/right view unless obstructed by cover" or something. braden posted:This is actually one of my favorite things about the game Oh my god yes, Rockstar knows how to loving rock and roll when it comes to menus. I hate it when you have to physically wait for the menu graphics to load before you can do anything, and there's a bunch of stupidly slow eye-candy slide/fade in for entering any menu. Slappy Moose fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jun 7, 2010 |
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not going to lie I really don't like John's voice or voice acting
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Mainly because someone pointed out in this thread for a good clip I felt like I was playing a time travelling My Name is Earl.
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KungfooMF posted:The social club 100% page sure updates oddly. It still doesn't show the last 6 or 7 missions, but the percentage complete is correct. It also hasn't updated all of the bounty locations and so I'm not sure which ones I have left. Only like 2 remaining. The only things it doesn't list for me aside from the last couple of missions are the challenges, stranger missions and two outfits. Hopefully they'll be fixed when the patch/DLC comes out.
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Ugh. The second Misc Mexican (Jefe Rocha) is the same as the second to last Misc Criminal (Jesse Lang), just with a different name. Rockstar? e1: That said, I hope we get batches of new characters in future DLC just for the helluvit (as opposed to 1 or 2 at a time, which everyone would then use  ). Some of the random Outfitter characters have neat names that make me wonder what their story is, like Tricky Pat Dempson e2: Oh god, Rockstar should have made the final Legendary Mount a fuckin automobile that three friends could join you in as passengers. How cool would that be? Seems like an appropriate and fun reward for all that grinding too, you know? Gah! Does anybody have any stats on the mounts? I'd like to know what the particulars are between the Hungarian and the American, as well as the bulls and the buffaloes. Whoa Black Betty fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jun 7, 2010 |
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