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Capn Beeb posted:You gotta do the missions to get out of that terrible costume. Goddamnit are you serious? That makes me just not want to even play the loving game anymore, if I have to be dumbass Jack. It was a fun game, but Jesus Christ that just ruins any replayability for me. At least there is still multiplayer for me! I just gotta decide whether to hack my multiplayer save or not. Slappy Moose fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jun 8, 2010 |
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Christ, is ANYONE in Mexico besides Landon Ricketts NOT an enormous, irredeemable rear end in a top hat?
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Is it possible to get a half-white Hungarian half-bred? I know they're supposed to be all-white but I just got the achievement for breaking the three types of horses while on one that I thought was only half-white (not the ugly one, a more rare looking one). But I suppose it's possible it got bitten by a snake while I was hunting or something and I called a different one? I did break the third horse in the dark... I guess I'll try the OJ Simpson achievement and find out. Captain Corduroy posted:Christ, is ANYONE in Mexico besides Landon Ricketts NOT an enormous, irredeemable rear end in a top hat? No. You can count the non-assholes in the whole game on one hand. Kind of depressing... makes you wonder if the R* staff is mentally ok.
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I was kind of mad about Landon Ricketts bitching at me for jumping from one side of the fence to the other, when he was the only dude I'd even done any missions for. I ain't jumping fences, pardner! You're the only loving guy I've talked to since I got here! Personally I think Reyes is not an irredeemable rear end in a top hat. A huge blow-hard, yes, a misogynist, yes. But overall actually pretty brave, loyal, inspires people and comes through on his promises quicker than just about anyone else in the game.
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greatn posted:I was kind of mad about Landon Ricketts bitching at me for jumping from one side of the fence to the other, when he was the only dude I'd even done any missions for. I ain't jumping fences, pardner! You're the only loving guy I've talked to since I got here! (End-game spoiler) There's an article about Reyes in the newspaper after you beat the game that reveals his true character...and it turns out he's a lot worse than he seemed
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greatn posted:Personally I think Reyes is not an irredeemable rear end in a top hat. A huge blow-hard, yes, a misogynist, yes. But overall actually pretty brave, loyal, inspires people and comes through on his promises quicker than just about anyone else in the game.
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Starks posted:(End-game spoiler) There's an article about Reyes in the newspaper after you beat the game that reveals his true character...and it turns out he's a lot worse than he seemed Well, I guess I should have known with his Mexico is mine! proclamation. Although I thought he'd basically be better because what he wanted the most from people was to be loved, not feared. Then again, regarding you end-game spoiler The newspapers in America also said that Allende was making things better in Mexico, which was definitely wrong, maybe they have it wrong about Reyes too with their yellow journalism, anti-socialist agenda
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Do you have to take everyone's chips in Poker for it to count as a "win" (and therefore count toward the 100% completion)? The Social Club website isn't listing me as having completed Poker yet. And, as far as Mexico is concerned, everyone there is a huge jerk.  I especially disliked saving that prostitute by buying her freedom, only to have her get murdered anyway. It's just like, no matter how good you try to be, it's futile.
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My only issue with this game is the fact that it doesn't have a ton of nods to my favorite western movies. I'm having a ton of fun with the game, but the cemetery should have a grave for Arch Stanton, or an empty one with a fresh dead guy (Angel Eyes). I kinda expected obvious homages like The Good The Bad and The Ugly seeing as all the GTA games were full of em. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.
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Lao Tsu posted:I kinda expected obvious homages like The Good The Bad and The Ugly seeing as all the GTA games were full of em. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. Freeing a hanging man by shooting the rope might not be original to The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, but that's what I think of every time I get that random encounter. (And the hanging rescue mission.)
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Tide posted:I think I'm one of the few that doesn't get the Jack hate. END GAME DISCUSSION I think Jack is a good character, and I agree totally about him being more immature and all that. But that's the problem, I don't want to play as immature Jack, I want to be bad rear end John. I think his character is done really well, but it's just not who I spent 30 hours as and who I came to really like. It would be cool if the Jack part was just until you kill Ross, then after credits they just let you be John or Jack and say gently caress continuity and immersion. Houdini posted:Do horses have random stats? I caught this really nice pale cream coloured one in Mexico and it runs a lot faster than the others I've had, but seems to have less stamina. When you first get a horse they don't have as much stamina, because they have to get used to you and become closer to you and all that. Once you ride him a while, the stamina will go up.
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Post-endgame. There's a cheat to play as Jack. Why isn't there a cheat to play as John? Dangit, Rockstar 
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Crows Turn Off posted:Do you have to take everyone's chips in Poker for it to count as a "win" (and therefore count toward the 100% completion)? The Social Club website isn't listing me as having completed Poker yet. I always thought that the "saving" her thing was just a con that she and the pimp would run whenever they came upon someone who looked like a particularly good white knight mark from whom they couldn't get money the usual way. Not that he didn't beat her for real, but the whole "I'll run away and join a convent" was entirely an act concocted by the two of them before hand. Then she comes back, but this time he's a little too drunk and hits her a little too hard, and that's it. But she was always his woman, would always return, devoted and deluded to the end.
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Sco Dylan posted:When you first get a horse they don't have as much stamina, because they have to get used to you and become closer to you and all that. Once you ride him a while, the stamina will go up. Or you buy a contract and then you can summon the horse whenever, and it always has maximum stamina. The whole breaking thing really was made irrelevant by horse contracts... actually if I were to play again, I'd probably go without the contracts, simply because they actually made the game a little too easy.
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Sco Dylan posted:END GAME DISCUSSION Even more end game discussion: I really enjoy playing as Jack. I loved John as a character, but he had to die. The entire game was building to that ending (I actually thought it would be an ambush at his farm directly after the Dutch mission with him finding his family dead or something). For me its the little things Jack always says and if you haven't noticed, they play different music for the tense situations with him. I was pinned down in the bank in Blackwater after an unsuccessful attempt at a robbery and the music became very ominous and Jack blurted out something like, "Come on Jack. Just hold it together." Its little things like that and how he constantly talks about what his dad has taught him. He also reacts much more emotionally while committing crimes. Like saying, "What have I become?" or "I wanted to be writer..." while looting dead women. I guess I just find the contrast between the two characters interesting. Also, Jack's cowboy outfit is WAY better.
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Holy poo poo, I just got the treasure from Treasure Rank 8 in Perdido and just realized something... If I were riding my horse there like I did just now in real life I would seriously be making GBS threads my pants. That is all. Also, is it possible to find the treasure for Treasure Hunter out of order? Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jun 8, 2010 |
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Fuzz posted:The whole breaking thing really was made irrelevant by horse contracts... actually if I were to play again, I'd probably go without the contracts, simply because they actually made the game a little too easy. A lot of things were made irrelevant by horse contracts. Your horse dying, for one, because it takes just a few minutes before you can whip out your contract and whistle for a new horse anywhere in the world. It would've added something to the game to make horse death permanent, and you have to either rustle some poor sap's horse or find a wild one and break it. As it stands, there's no consequence for running your horse to death or losing it to a thief, getting it killed or just plain being stupid. It's the untamed wilderness, things shouldn't be so cushy. But then, it keeps you from having to play the dumb horse-breaking mini-game so much. So it has that going for it.
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Tewratomeh posted:A lot of things were made irrelevant by horse contracts. Your horse dying, for one, because it takes just a few minutes before you can whip out your contract and whistle for a new horse anywhere in the world. It would've added something to the game to make horse death permanent, and you have to either rustle some poor sap's horse or find a wild one and break it. As it stands, there's no consequence for running your horse to death or losing it to a thief, getting it killed or just plain being stupid. It's the untamed wilderness, things shouldn't be so cushy. The A.D.D. children would throw a loving fit if they had to take a few more minutes to fix any mistake they made with their horse.
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Howard Beale posted:Freeing a hanging man by shooting the rope might not be original to The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, but that's what I think of every time I get that random encounter. (And the hanging rescue mission.) The shooting the rope thing was a major plot point in 1954's Johnny Guitar, and the woman being rescued in the film was even sort of similar to Bonnie McFarlane, and had a sort of similar relationship to the one doing the rescuing. I'm sure there are others, I'm thinking it's a well-established trope in westerns. Oh, wait - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShootTheRope Too bad there's no mention of Johnny Guitar, but half the editors on that wiki are 12 year old anime and webcomic addicts, soooo ^^^ Sco Dylan posted:The A.D.D. children would throw a loving fit if they had to take a few more minutes to fix any mistake they made with their horse. What about losing your car/plane/bike in the sticks in San Andreas? No camp to quicktravel from and no way to whistle for a car meant walking for what I swear was sometimes 15-20 minutes. There usually wasn't even any way to kill yourself. moller fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Jun 8, 2010 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:Even more end game discussion: (More post-endgame spoilers) Some of my favorite Jack quotes are when he yells "Do you believe I'm a Marston now?" and "I've got nothing else to live for now." Some other telling quotes, when gunning down lawmen, are "What has the law ever done for me?" I definitely agree that Jack's quips add a lot of characterization to a desperate and lost boy.
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War Pig posted:(More post-endgame spoilers) Some of my favorite Jack quotes are when he yells "Do you believe I'm a Marston now?" and "I've got nothing else to live for now." Some other telling quotes, when gunning down lawmen, are "What has the law ever done for me?" I definitely agree that Jack's quips add a lot of characterization to a desperate and lost boy. I agree. And if anyone is playing Jack as anything other than a pissed off directionless drifter, they're doing it wrong. He was raised by outlaws, and even though John and his wife wanted something better for him, Ross guaranteed that would never be the case, and created another version of the same kind of monster he had set out to destroy in the first place.
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A couple of multiplayer free roam questions: I'm on a Lawbringer challange that has me do a hideout doing only Melee/Thrown weapons. Has anyone tried going in with two people, and killing one person with a throwing knife while other people run in and mop up for you? I had similar success finishing a challenge that said to do Pikes Basin and Twin Peaks (I think) without dying in the same session. I won that challenge by accidentally trotting too close to an active Pike's Basin run. Also, has anyone tried being public enemies and fighting the law from within Fort Mercer? I've been eying the sweet gatling being pointed at the entrance as a means to grind some delicious Mounted Weapons kills, but as I was doing a private game, once I cleaned Fort Mercer of baddies, I tried running away a bit to find someone to get a bounty on me, only to come back and have the hideout fully restocked with baddies. What I'm thinking is, if I and a few guys clear out Mercer, then one of us stays in while the others get in trouble and attract it to Fort Mercer, there would be a lovely hold out within, considering there's only a one way entrance and two ammo boxes (as opposed to Presidio's lack of ammo and flanking side entrance). If anyone would like to do that, let me know. If anyone's tried that already, what came of it?
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moller posted:The shooting the rope thing was a major plot point in 1954's Johnny Guitar, and the woman being rescued in the film was even sort of similar to Bonnie McFarlane, and had a sort of similar relationship to the one doing the rescuing. I'm sure there are others, I'm thinking it's a well-established trope in westerns. My favorite "Shoot the rope" was in Quick and the Dead. It helps that Gary Sinese annoys me though  Man this game will make you feel like dogshit for the most random goddamn reasons. I got rid of my horse cause, well, he sucked, and I activated a horse deed. The horse looks at me, shakes his head, and just trots off into the sunset like "Welp, thanks for riding on my back and spurring me a lot rear end in a top hat, I thought we had something!" Sorry Elmer, I just wanted to go faster  It got worse though, cause right after I get on Pony (the awesomest horse that ever horsed!) he got attacked by a bobcat and died, and then it killed me when I was running away trying to gently caress with my weapons menu to not have Fire Bottle selected.
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So, after finally getting the Buffalo Rifle, I decided to wear it in committing a little bear genocide in Tall Trees to get revenge for how much they killed me during my time there by sneaking up on me like big, furry, one-ton ninjas.
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I know there are differences in stamina, speed, and health between horse breeds. Are there also differences in intelligence or training? Previous horses I had usually came right away when I called, ran right up to me and slowed so I could get on, and would follow behind me like a puppy when I was walking. If I got off, they stood there patiently while I did whatever. I bought the deed to a Kentucky Saddler, and the drat horse seems to either have equine ADD, or he just hates me. If I whistle for that horse, it usually takes a few tries before it even starts to come my way. When it gets to me it tends to run past me in the opposite direction and not stop. If I get off, it almost immediately runs away or wanders off. Even trying to load a bounty on his back I may need to whistle once or twice just to get him to not take off in another direction for no drat reason. On the other hand I learned that you can drag a man to death behind your horse. It takes a very long time, but will eventually kill him. moller posted:no way to whistle for a car...
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Y'know, after beating the game twice now, I think one of my favorite things is reading the newspapers. I just kind of ignored them the first time, had bounties to find and cougars to kill, but the second play though I took the time to read them and man they are great. Did you know Cocaine might be BAD for you? 
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Wow, whoever said they had trouble with Liar's Dice, what the gently caress. The AI is absolutely terrible at this. I just did the high-stakes one in Thieves' Landing, and goddamn. Two other players, both down to one dice, and one guy bets four ones.  What the gently caress, this is pretty much easy money.
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Liar's Dice is easy as hell because when it gets down to the last few dice, the AI players never bet that the guess is spot on. So even if there's 3 dice left and someone bets that there's 2 5's left, instead of doing the logical thing and betting spot on the AI player will instead come back and bet something like 3 6s.
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leidend posted:No. You can count the non-assholes in the whole game on one hand. Kind of depressing... makes you wonder if the R* staff is mentally ok. I suppose it's Rockstar debunking the romance of the old west. The whole picture builds up to a land of selfishness and greed, as well as other little pokes at America - "money and a chance to interfere in affairs that aren't his own - what American could resist?". Almost everyone's out for themselves. Those who aren't and don't fit in are forgotten or sidelined. Look at Landon Ricketts, a hero of the West, nobody knows who he is anymore (except John). It's interesting, because they could have written him as a more bitter character, but they didn't. It makes the "good guys" a lot more powerful as characters. Crows Turn Off posted:And, as far as Mexico is concerned, everyone there is a huge jerk. I love the stranger missions, they do more than just offer interesting sidequests, they colour the story, build the game world and give it a real sense of character, where other games would just leave them as that - side quests. It's incredibly clever how these mini stories of the lives of others that you temporarily cross give you a real feel of the state of the land and the attitudes of the people in it. It's amazingly well done and should be thoroughly applauded.
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IGN has the whole "short film" up. It's really underwhelming.
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liquidypoo posted:So I came across something weird in multiplayer today. Some pubbie was repeatedly blowing himself up with dynamite in Armadillo while I was off loving around with one of the legendary hunt challenges. He eventually showed up and attacked me, as is standard with pubbie idiots. What was weird though was occasionally he would spawn and be completely invisible to me. I'd watch his icon approach me on the minimap, but he was nowhere to be found on my screen at all, not even his tag showing up. He actually ended up suicide bombing me in that particular instance. I had to swtich free roam sessions because you can't Dead Eye knife someone who isn't there Quoting to see if anybody's seen this. Didn't get a response the first time.
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OrangeGuy posted:Also, is it possible to find the treasure for Treasure Hunter out of order? Nope, he has to have a reason to dig into the rock pile. He won't just do it randomly.
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I'm normally a PC gamer. I have a PS3 but I am an absolutely terrible shot when trying to aim with controller sticks (too used to a mouse that I can move fast or slow). Would this game still be enjoyable with such a malady, or should I skip it? (Or is a PC port coming?)
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The Lone Badger posted:I'm normally a PC gamer. I have a PS3 but I am an absolutely terrible shot when trying to aim with controller sticks (too used to a mouse that I can move fast or slow). Would this game still be enjoyable with such a malady, or should I skip it? (Or is a PC port coming?) Not only is there a very helpful auto aim in the game, but the dead-eye feature makes shooting people extremely easy. You'll do fine.
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The Lone Badger posted:I'm normally a PC gamer. I have a PS3 but I am an absolutely terrible shot when trying to aim with controller sticks (too used to a mouse that I can move fast or slow). Would this game still be enjoyable with such a malady, or should I skip it? (Or is a PC port coming?) IntoTheNihil posted:Not only is there a very helpful auto aim in the game, but the dead-eye feature makes shooting people extremely easy. You'll do fine. I play both PC and console, and I find altering your aiming style is useful when using a console. For example, on PS3 I use strafing and timing (waiting for someone to run into the line of sight) to line up horizontally and the right, "look" stick to line up vertically. Tends to make things a little easier.
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Gazmachine posted:I play both PC and console, and I find altering your aiming style is useful when using a console. For example, on PS3 I use strafing and timing (waiting for someone to run into the line of sight) to line up horizontally and the right, "look" stick to line up vertically. Tends to make things a little easier. I just use auto-aim shamelessly for consoles, especially since I don't have a high-definition television and I find it hard to even see who's shooting at me half the time. I tried expert aiming once, and when I wasn't in Dead Eye it just came down to me firing wildly at moving blobs in the distance and hitting nothing except by accident. I guess shootouts with people aren't so bad since you have gunsmoke giving away their position, but I can't hunt with expert aiming unless I want to waste my Dead Eye trying to hit one rabbit.
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I just find it too easy personally with auto aim on. It has its uses in mp free roam in the gang hideouts, though, because those bandits have some poo poo hot aiming.
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 Gazmachine posted:I just find it too easy personally with auto aim on. It has its uses in mp free roam in the gang hideouts, though, because those bandits have some poo poo hot aiming. I usually dislike auto aiming since it feels like a game is just playing itself. With RDR you don't really need to use auto-aiming or even Dead Eye. Except sometimes when you're on horseback and you're being chased by several dudes up close. The aiming is definitely a big improvement on GTA4 in my opinion. Anyway what's up with the highscores in the Rockstar Social Club on the 360? Some retards have something like 2500 million in pretty much everything, either these dudes have the biggest poopsocks ever or there's some major account sharing going on here or what?
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Guys, I found something really weird. Try shooting a random guy (only tried this in SP) in the back with a rifle/repeater/sniper rifle/pistol. Target just a bit above where his belt is. Watch as the guy scrambles back up. Shoot again. Watch him squirm in pain but get up. Shoot again. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Seriously, for some reason the NPCs in the game seem to have this invincible spot in their backs juuust around the waistline. I tried this with at least ten or so characters, none of which would die however many holes I blasted into their lower back. Not even a full clip from the Evans or several Buffalo or Carcano rifle rounds killed them, but it did seem to take their HP down to 1 though, since a shot pretty much anywhere else was a guaranteed kill. Also a knife or a shotgun shot to the back killed them, the shotgun probably because of the spread. Could someone try this, I want to know if this is only my game? The bugs in this game 
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War Pig posted:(More post-endgame spoilers) Some of my favorite Jack quotes are when he yells "Do you believe I'm a Marston now?" and "I've got nothing else to live for now." Some other telling quotes, when gunning down lawmen, are "What has the law ever done for me?" I definitely agree that Jack's quips add a lot of characterization to a desperate and lost boy. I actually really hated that. It's been years, get over it. Playing an emo kid is not a good reward for beating the game. That fact alone made me switch over to multiplayer.
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