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ChiTownEddie posted:Whatcha guys think for a newbie... It's an old bike, but if it starts, runs, rides well and doesn't leak any fluids, it should be fine for a beginner bike. My wife started on a 500cc Magna, which looks remarkably similar to that, except it has a VF instead of a [straight four? twin?]. I imagine they used the same frame several of their lightweight cruisers; Magna VF500, that Nighthawk, and the Shadow VT500. If the way the Magna handles is any indication, it should be a great learner bike in practice. Low seat height, light weight, easy handling, not enough power to get you into a ton of trouble. A bike that age is going to need some regular wrenching, and with the age vs. displacement, you will probably outgrow it quickly. I'd be happy to see 1 season on that one before I start looking for the next (newer, more dependable) one. clutchpuck fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jul 14, 2010 |
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That seems like a decent deal. I'm not sure which bolt he's talking about, but if you can post some pictures or a better description, that might help. Is he talking about the chain adjustment?
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Jul 14, 2010 20:11
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I msg'ed the guy and will be checking it out on Saturday. Holy crap at the chance I might own a bike so soon!
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Jul 14, 2010 21:00
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Z3n posted:That seems like a decent deal. I'm not sure which bolt he's talking about, but if you can post some pictures or a better description, that might help. Is he talking about the chain adjustment? Just checked with him, it's the rear set for the shifter, not the axle. He said it just gets loose every couple weeks.
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Jul 14, 2010 21:37
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lordofokra posted:Just checked with him, it's the rear set for the shifter, not the axle. He said it just gets loose every couple weeks. Some locktite probably would sort that out then. Or he doesn't get that it's reverse threaded and you need to tighten down the locknuts. Either way, not a big deal.
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So I wasn't expecting to reply to this thread so soon, but a bike in my theoretical price range just popped up. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/1843440518.html I might be overreacting from everyone's constant overpricing of bikes here. It's obviously been down since he says "cosmetic damage". Just wondering if this looks like a good deal to the more experienced or if I should hold off on cashing out some vacation time and setting my savings account back by several months.
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Jul 15, 2010 06:30
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PlasticSun posted:Nice sounds like the first one's been well taken care of. And it will be rode home tomorrow evening!
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Jul 15, 2010 07:02
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clutchpuck posted:I know, right? I told her if she's going to ride behind me, she's going to have to disable the headlight modulator. Of course the psychedelic array of lights and beeping noises could come in handy if you need to communicate with a passing spaceship.
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Jul 15, 2010 09:36
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clutchpuck posted:And it will be rode home tomorrow evening! Congrats! I'd suggest doing a fluid change, including the gear oil, but other than that it should be ready to go for a long while.
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Jul 15, 2010 14:54
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I agree. We pick it up tonight and it comes with a manual so we shouldn't have any trouble with the fluid change.
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Wolfsforza posted:So I wasn't expecting to reply to this thread so soon, but a bike in my theoretical price range just popped up. $1200 for a 2004 Ninja 250 with new tires and less than 12k miles is a pretty good deal, so it's probably already gone. 
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frozenphil posted:$1200 for a 2004 Ninja 250 with new tires and less than 12k miles is a pretty good deal, so it's probably already gone. Is $1800 for a 2005 with 1600 miles still a good deal? I'm still unsure on prices for the ninja 250s although I've been watching the market for a bit.
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lordofokra posted:Yeah, I did some reading on the GS500 and a lot of people said for the money you might as well get an SV650. Yesterday, a 2003 SV650 popped up on my local Craigslist. 12000 miles with minor cosmetic damage for $2600. I went and checked it out, aside from a couple scratches (dropped once), a loose gear shift footrest, and something about a rear bolt needing tightened once in awhile (something with the wheel, do you know what I'm talking about? I'm new to bikes) it looked great. He's holding it for me and I should be picking it up next weekend! I got my '03 SV recently for $2,300 with 9,600 miles. It had been dropped and has a small dent in the tank, and the (bent) handlebars were replaced with a 3rd-party drag bar. Try to negotiate the price down if you can (new tank = $600, rear plastic fairing = $125/side, for examples). If you get the SV for sure, I'd suggest you get sliders or radiator bars. If there's no protection there, you're sure to gently caress up the radiator upon a drop, like the P.O. of my bike did. He installed a set of radiator bars so I'm completely secure now. When you get it, I'd suggest you start focusing on practicing low-speed maneuvers. The SV's torque curve can be a bit difficult to handle at those low speeds. See this thread: http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=128609 (I love my SV to death)
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I've wanted an 06-07 CBR1000 for a while now, even though I've never even ridden one  I love the looks and the power and the fact thats it's a Honda. I'm seriously starting to look now and I really want a Repsol, but I'd settle for a red or black one. Anyone have advice on these bikes? How does this look for a deal? It's in LA so it's a few hours away  http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/1841234718.html email: "Up until two weeks ago, the bike was like brand new. I was moving it literally from my garage to the outside patio and laid it down lightly... the damage is truly minimal and it is only on the plastic. in the pictures I've provided you a shot of the damage." I'm not sure what a premium the Repsols should get over a regular 06-07 CBR1k I'm looking at this bike tomorrow, located a lot closer, hopefully I'll get a test ride to see if I actually like these things http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/mcy/1843895374.html quote:Hey,
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I honestly wouldn't buy one. They're fine bikes, but the 08+ CBRs are just better across the board. The repsol replica is just a paint job, if you really wanted one I'd probably buy an ebay fairing kit and sell the OEM stuff, you could make money on it. Get the rims PC'd/painted orange and off you go. I wouldn't pay more than 5k for one, period, and even that is pushing it. People have this obsession with HONDA and how they hold their value and all of this crap and it's just really undeserved...no one rides the bikes long enough for it to matter anyways. I've ridden the 04-05 and the 06-07 and the 08+ and while the earlier generations are fine motorcycles, the 08 is the only one that's really made me go "holy poo poo, this is an amazing motorcycle". Couple that with people asking absurd amounts for even older ones, and I'm just not a fan in general. You're gonna like the bike when you test ride it regardless because it's a literbike, but I'd recommend riding a modern GSX-R and the 08+ CBR1000RR before you buy one.
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I really have had good luck with Honda and bad luck with Kawi and Suzuki. And the 08+ CBR is just hideous IMO. Considering the level of rider I am (very mid-range) I don't think I would appreciate the slight advantages of anything else enough for it to matter. Plus I'll admit it, I'm really wanting the 06-07 for almost purely aesthetic reasons
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aventari posted:I really have had good luck with Honda and bad luck with Kawi and Suzuki. I'd say that you should at least ride the 08 plus. I've ridden with you, I know you'd notice the difference, it's just a matter of if it matters enough to you to sway the asthetic side of things. The earlier generation is much better looking though, I agree on that front.
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Z3n posted:You're gonna like the bike when you test ride it regardless because it's a literbike, but I'd recommend riding a modern GSX-R and the 08+ CBR1000RR before you buy one. haha just test rode the black 07 and drat you are correct. I love it. so much power it's insane. Makes my F4i feel like a squishy Ninja 250 now :-/
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aventari posted:haha just test rode the black 07 and drat you are correct. I love it. so much power it's insane. Makes my F4i feel like a squishy Ninja 250 now :-/ Yup, literbikes have that effect.  Honestly, if it makes you smile you should buy it. I'm sure you'd notice the difference in power on the newer bike, but it's also about having something that makes you smile when you look at it in the garage. The older 1000RRs aren't bad bikes, in fact, they're very good bikes...it's just that the newer bikes are another step forward.
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aventari posted:haha just test rode the black 07 and drat you are correct. I love it. so much power it's insane. Makes my F4i feel like a squishy Ninja 250 now :-/ Well that first Repsol you listed was about 7200$, I think i've seen a few 08 models around the bay area with less than 4000 miles running for as low aw 7800$, and as Z3n said it's a pretty amazing motorcycle, compared to the previous gen. I haven't ridden a literbike and the rather absurd cost of insuring one keeps me from getting one, even though it seems like people are selling their literbikes for the same price as a 600CC supersport around here, it almost makes me think "Well why don't I just get a 1000CC instead?" Also I agree with Z3n I don't get why Hondas seem to have higher resale value, i've already replaced 2 regulator/rectifiers ! Also I kind of want a 954RR, that headlight just looks awesome
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aventari posted:haha just test rode the black 07 and drat you are correct. I love it. so much power it's insane. Makes my F4i feel like a squishy Ninja 250 now :-/ Putting  on aventari buying a litrebike in the next month.
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I've had many long drawn out conversations (sprinkled with "so when are you going to get a trackbike?  ) about literbikes with a variety of people. I bought a 08 CBR1000 last fall and I absolutely love the loving thing. If I had to do it all over again I would have NEVER bought it. Honestly they're just too, too much. Everywhere. In most any situation, street or track. They're too much for the street in the way that if you're using a small amount of their very exploitable power you're breaking so many laws it's not even funny. Let alone the hazards of riding like a jackass on the street. I will say it's nice to have power/torque available to you at moderately sane revs... but you're going to want to cane it every now and again. Be honest with yourself  . The riding position is very compromised on modern bikes. Yes, you can do long rides on them and live. But there's also much more It's also too much for the track. I got SERIOUSLY bit by the trackday bug and have logged close to 1100 miles on the track since April 10 of this year, all on my ridiculous literbike. It's stupid fun. It can also get you into trouble in a hurry. Not to mention its insatiable lust for tires... granted, I still have one fresh rear left and a set of street tires that have a lot of miles left in them that I've been swapping around with track tires, but since I started trackdays in April I've spent 950 bucks on tires alone. Not to mention mounting/balancing and me eventually breaking down and buying a tire changer so I could "save some money"  . NOT SAVING ANY MONEY IF YOU'RE EATING THROUGH AN EXPENSIVE REAR TIRE EVERY COUPLE TRACKDAYS, rear end in a top hat!!! *sigh* It's harder to learn on at the track as well. They're just so quick it's easy to get going too fast for your comfort level/skill on straights, panic, overbrake, and coast through corners way the gently caress too slow. Yes, you too can be "that guy" on a literbike! I'm sure I pissed a lot of people off when I first started riding track, now I do the majority of my passing in corners  . It's nice when you're carrying more speed through turns AND have retarded power at tap for straights! Be careful with that right wrist though, because you have that retarded power on tap if you're hamfisted with the throttle you're in for a rude awakening. And guess what! Since the bikes are so powerful and you're going faster, not only do you chew up tires faster you also are harder on brake pads and fluid! And sprockets! And chains! Basically it comes down to what you want. I thought I wanted a literbike because goddamnit they're awesome. And they are awesome. But too much awesome is a bad thing . It's senseless for the street and compromised for the track unless you're one of the very few people who can actually use the additional power over a 600 you're not. neither am I.But, if you adore the bike and can live with its shortcomings? Buy the drat thing. They're amazingly capable machines and their power is intoxicating. ...until you look at your tire bill. This is ONE DAY on a fresh Dunlop D211GPA medium/hard rear.   
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I'm really thinking my ideal bike setup is having a Speed Triple as a streetbike/daily ride, my current F2 as a trackwhore, and a DRZ400SM for the weekends.
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Do they really get sub 30mpg when you're tracking it? How about for everyday street riding? I think i'm going to settle for a nice new TV over a another bike this year ^^ I think the F2 is nice enough for everyday street use, I think it's when Honda started making the RR series that things got a little less comfy.
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No doubt my F2 is comfy...for a sportbike. A FuzzyWuzzyBear fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Jul 17, 2010 |
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FuzzyWuzzyBear posted:No doubt my F2 is comfy...for a sportbike. A A Speed Triple isn't a streetfighter.
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infraboy posted:Do they really get sub 30mpg when you're tracking it? How about for everyday street riding? I always reset my trip meter, fuel gauge, and econ at the beginning of a trackday because it's neat to see how many miles you put on at the track. I get between 23 and 25mpg flogging the piss out of it. They're pretty thirsty  Normal riding gets me 39-41 depending on what kind of riding I'm doing. The worst I've seen on the street was ~35.
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Buy litrebikes you immense softcocks. They be the poo poo.
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Can anyone give me some opinions on riding a DL650 vs a DL1000GT? I can't get a Wee for a rental in the UK as they're all out, but I can get a 1k. However, there isn't one around here I can go look at in person. I've not ridden the Wee, but of all the bikes I can get (and afford), I've sat on the Wee and like it best. Thanks.
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Everything I've heard about the Vee indicates that it's pretty similar to the Wee, except heavier and the motor's less refined. (On the plus side it goes faster and the front suspension's apparently better.) The Wee is a wonderfully friendly bike and I can't imagine the Vee would be too much different.
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How's the economy on the Vee though? The SV1000 (same motor) isn't exactly known for it's frugality and the Vee's got more bulk to haul around.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:A Speed Triple isn't a streetfighter. Uh, yeah it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Speed_Triple Sportbike with handlebars and no fairings. Yes, technically streetfighters are faired sportbikes that have them removed, but it's a factory streetfighter. Edit: Also http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2006/07/triumph-speed-triple-mean-mutha.html and http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2009-streetfighters-shootout-aprilia-tuono-1000-r-buell-1125cr-triumph-speed-triple-87798.html FuzzyWuzzyBear fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Jul 18, 2010 |
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FuzzyWuzzyBear posted:Uh, yeah it is. There is no such thing as a factory streetfighter, but even if there was, there's only two bikes that would fit the description: RSV Tuono and K1300R. The Speed Triple hasn't ever been based off a sportsbike. It's just a nakedbike. 2ndclasscitizen fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jul 18, 2010 |
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2ndclasscitizen posted:There is no such thing as a factory streetfighter, but even if there was, there's only two bikes that would fit the description: RSV Tuono and K1300R. The Speed Triple hasn't ever been based off a sportsbike. It's just a nakedbike. I...uh... what?  Ducati Streetfight... I assure you it exists
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Spiffness posted:I...uh... what? I know it exists. Ducati can call it whatever they like, but it's not a fighter.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:I know it exists. Ducati can call it whatever they like, but it's not a fighter. Because? A fighter is a bike you build yourself out of a sport bike you've ruined? Wheres the definition your using coming from. Stripped sport bike chassis with handlebars. The Ducati streetfighter is very much that. The triumph speed triple is very much that. Is there some better definition I don't know about?
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Spiffness posted:Because? A fighter is a bike you build yourself out of a sport bike you've ruined? Wheres the definition your using coming from. From the definition that's been used to describe what a streetfighter is for the past 20-odd years since London couriers started stripping back slabbies. Spiffness posted:Stripped sport bike chassis with handlebars. The Ducati streetfighter is very much that. The triumph speed triple is very much that. Is there some better definition I don't know about? Stripped with handlebars, and then fitted with lazier steering and a longer swingarm. And what sportsbike was stripped to make a Speed Triple? 2ndclasscitizen fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Jul 18, 2010 |
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By that definition the Ducati Streetfighter is exactly that. It's a 1098, with lazier rake, handlebars and a longer swingarm. I think you are getting a bit to hung up in the step by step 'how to make a street fighter' and not so much that it's a style of bike now. You can argue the speed triple is just a standard. The Tuono is very much a streetfighter, so is the Ducati,they exist. They are awesome. You don't have to make your own now, though you should because they are way awesome when they are scrapped together in some shed.
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Spiffness posted:By that definition the Ducati Streetfighter is exactly that. 2ndclasscitizen posted:From the definition that's been used to describe what a streetfighter is for the past 20-odd years since London couriers started stripping back slabbies. Built not bought. And where in that sentence did I mention making it longer or lazier?
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