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Z3n posted:DRZ400SM. Buy a used one with all the mods already done, the engine's bulletproof. Once you ride it you won't care about sloppy seconds. Regear to 15/41, slap a big bore kit on it if you want more power, and off you go. It'll handle anything you can throw at it, and 15k valve checks I'm torn, I really do like the drz400 but it's not that great of a touring bike. Putting paniers and poo poo on a drz just seems silly and the seat isn't really that comfortable. Anyways, I have a lot of time to think about it. Good news is, I found a dude who is buying my bike for what I paid for it which is pretty good considering I put about 2k miles on it and haven't changed the tires or anything really except checked air pressure and tightened the chain. (I don't love the ho) I'm still pretty set on getting a BMW, mainly because I just watched long way round. Getting a 1200 gs adventure sounds pretty cool, I just need to make some extra money this year and I could maybe afford it somehow.
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soy posted:I'm torn, I really do like the drz400 but it's not that great of a touring bike. Putting paniers and poo poo on a drz just seems silly and the seat isn't really that comfortable. If I were ever planning on riding offroad, there's no way I'd take a 1200 GS. There are riders that can handle it, but I'm definitely not one, my ~300 pound DRZ seems like a handful, I can't imagine what a 500+ pound GS would feel like. Check my last post in the supermoto thread, I've got some video of me on a local road that's half paved and half fairly torn up dirt/rock road. There's no way I'd want to take a GS down there but it's a gas on my DRZ. And I put 1350 miles on the DRZ in 2 days, so I'm sort of biased about it being a tourer. Sure, it's not the best at it but it will get the job done.
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Theres a 1980 CM400 for sale nearby asking $500. Its been sitting for a year and the owner was charging the battery when I visited so they couldn't start it. It just clicked a lot and they didnt seem that keen at my offer to jump it with my truck (I wouldn't trust a complete stranger to hook poo poo up to my bike either i guess). It needs new tires, chain, exhaust is a little too rusted to salvage and its got that oxidised/slightly rusted look of a bike which has sat for a long time. The tank is a bit little rusty but it looks salvageable, as does everything else really. Some of the rubber bits have decayed but the owner has bought replacements and there is a leaky seal somewhere so he bought a bunch of various seals to throw in with it. On the plus side its got a new gauge cluster, fenders and the seat is in good shape. Im after a bike for my girlfriend to ride, and for me to tinker with. I dont mind having it sit for 3 or 4 months while I fix it as I've got my other bike and my girlfriend isnt in a hurry either. Ive seen some of these in running condition go for about the same price (500-1000). So I'm thinking about offering 250-300$ for it as is.. does that sound fair? GanjamonII fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 23, 2010 |
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Tsaven Nava posted:Watching the Long Way Round convinced me NOT to buy a 1200GSA maybe if I had millions of dollars and a support crew
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soy posted:I'm still pretty set on getting a BMW, mainly because I just watched long way round. Getting a 1200 gs adventure sounds pretty cool, I just need to make some extra money this year and I could maybe afford it somehow. Buy a moneypit transalp instead! Sure I'm stuck waiting on $5 parts from the four corners of the earth, but it's pretty.
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soy posted:I'm torn, I really do like the drz400 but it's not that great of a touring bike. Putting paniers and poo poo on a drz just seems silly and the seat isn't really that comfortable.
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soy posted:I'm torn, I really do like the drz400 but it's not that great of a touring bike. Putting paniers and poo poo on a drz just seems silly and the seat isn't really that comfortable. Keep in mind that adding parts to a DRZ, DR, DL, etc is still going to work out cheaper than anything you get from BMW. If you just want the prestige of the BMW that's cool but a DL650/1000 will tour just as well as the big BMW, and a DRZ would destroy a F800 in the dirt unless it's ridden by a very very skilled rider. I think one of the nicer compromises out there is the F650 single, (now the G650 GS) you get fuel injection, a big aftermarket selection, a nice smooth motor and enough space to fit two people on their pretty comfortably. You can also find one with some nice aftermarket bits on it for 5-6K. I think if you're looking for a solid tourer you'd be better off with the 650/1000 V-strom (assuming you can live with the looks). If you can't the Transalp is a beautiful bike and also cheap. If you're stretching to meet the BMW's price you're not going to be happy with the cost of ownership.
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I picked up my first bike today! It's a 2003 SV650S And already did something stupid! I was at the gas station and I put my clutch in and put my kickstand down. The bike stalled out (still getting used to kickstand killing the engine), and figuring the kickstand had to be down, I leaned it over and it fell! I supported it most of the way so there are no marks, but man do I feel stupid. Hopefully that is the drop I had to get out of the way! The bike feels great, there are a few things maintenance-wise (oil, get valves checked) that I will have to take care of, but for $2600 I couldn't turn it down.
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There is a Transalp for sale at a local dealer, 30k miles and looks to be in pretty good shape. They are asking for 2600. It's on Consignment and said the guy would be paying them to do a 'once over' on the bike. They said it needs some TLC and when I sat on it the rear brake was impossible for me to push all the way to the bottom, my foot just wouldn't reach. Sitting on the bike felt great, is that a decent price?
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Ooh, the transalp is pretty attractive. I am very shallow, and I really can't stand how the KLR or the V-Strom look. Thanks for the constructive advice. Zen, have you tried you drz with 2-up? How does it handle? I'd like to know how it would with with like 300lbs of people/gear on it. It's true, watching long way round was a good example of why not to take a huge heavy bike offorads as it seemed like they pretty much lost their poo poo anytime things got bumpy. But they did have good fuel range. Right now I'm probably leaning towards a DRZ, but we'll see. soy fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jul 25, 2010 |
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shaitan posted:There is a Transalp for sale at a local dealer, 30k miles and looks to be in pretty good shape. They are asking for 2600. It's on Consignment and said the guy would be paying them to do a 'once over' on the bike. That seems oddly high to me, but transalps are pretty rare in the US, we don't have much of a market for them. soy posted:Ooh, the transalp is pretty attractive. I am very shallow, and I really can't stand how the KLR or the V-Strom look. Thanks for the constructive advice. I have ridden a DRZ 2 up, it's not bad. It's not good, either, but it's acceptable. If I were going to do a lot of it I would definitely spring for an aftermarket shock with a stiffer spring, as the stock one is on the mushy side of acceptable with just me on it (180 pounds + gear). For distance, you'd also probably need to mod the seat. Honestly, any bike that I would want to ride offroad is going to be poo poo 2 up. If you want to ride 2 up, you're going to need something designed less for offroad and more for onroad riding. Pretty much all of the singles suck 2 up, the F800 or the BMW opposed twins would be fine, but they're also heavy and a handful offroad. This is why I love my supermoto, but also why it's not the perfect bike for everyone...I know my sumo can go just about anywhere I'd want to take it, but it's not particularly fast compared to most other bikes and it's not a 2 up motorcycle. If I wanted that I'd be best off buying a cheap 80s UJM to suppliment my DRZ. Z3n fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jul 25, 2010 |
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Z3n posted:That seems oddly high to me, but transalps are pretty rare in the US, we don't have much of a market for them. The rarity and $2600 made me curious. I don't really have my heart set on owning it but if it was a good deal I'd think about it. A DS isn't my first choice for a bike right now, but eventually I'd like to own one just to see how they feel.
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Z3n posted:stuff Yeah I get you, I'm 215lbs (just lost 20 lbs) and I'd be packing 30-40lbs of gear for trips. I only ask about 2-up because I'd like to be able to take my wife around on it sometimes too but probably not on trips as she's kinda a whiny camper. Once I have a bigger garage space I'll probably get a second bike for dedicated 2-up. It looks like it'll be a drz but I'm still torn as to whether I want to get a used one. Yeah, having all the mods done upfront is nice but I honestly can't stand the idea of some other person having hosed up my poo poo in ways I can't imagine before I get it. I've had several cars and every single used one I've had has had problems and I never really liked them as much as the one car I bought new.
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Tsaven Nava posted:From what I've heard, it's very hard to gently caress up a DRZ in any major way. They're pretty bulletproof. They are bulletproof through and through. It would take an amazing feat of bad luck or neglect to destroy one.
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shaitan posted:The rarity and $2600 made me curious. I don't really have my heart set on owning it but if it was a good deal I'd think about it. A DS isn't my first choice for a bike right now, but eventually I'd like to own one just to see how they feel. You can get a nice dual sport (KLR, early DRZ) for much cheaper than 2600$, and they've got a lot more parts/spares/aftermarket availability than the transalp (not that it's impossible to find parts for it, just that parts for the KLR/DRZ are very plentiful). soy posted:Yeah I get you, I'm 215lbs (just lost 20 lbs) and I'd be packing 30-40lbs of gear for trips. I only ask about 2-up because I'd like to be able to take my wife around on it sometimes too but probably not on trips as she's kinda a whiny camper. If that's the case, go for low mileage. You seriously cannot gently caress up a DRZ in 5k miles unless you utterly, totally, completely neglect it, and that's fairly rare. Tsaven Nava posted:From what I've heard, it's very hard to gently caress up a DRZ in any major way. They're pretty bulletproof. They have some issues that can crop up (like, oh, the countershaft nut which loves to work it's way loose and then spew out oil, waterpump bolts working themselves loose, etc), but most of this can be fixed with a little time. The only other concern is that the waterpump is pretty exposed and only protected with a little piece of plastic so if you get unlucky riding offroad you could hole the water pump. But some JBWeld is usually good enough to fix that.
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shaitan posted:There is a Transalp for sale at a local dealer, 30k miles and looks to be in pretty good shape. They are asking for 2600. It's on Consignment and said the guy would be paying them to do a 'once over' on the bike. Do it Do it Look how pretty they are!   They're heavy and will get stuck if you don't know what you're doing (I don't)  Here's a side by side with sklnds klr. Yes I've recovered my seat since that photo. Word of warning, the plastics are nearly unobtainable in this country, so you're stuck looking for them from europe and australia. I've found a few carb parts, in the US. I'm currently still working on my trying to get it up to spec before putting more miles on it. They're great bikes, and aside from working on it more then I ride it, I love it. $2600 for a well sorted out TransAlp isn't a bad price. I paid a touch more for mine, and still felt like I got a decent deal, though mine had 3,000 miles on it when I bought it, but was just barely running. If you've got any questions I'd be more then happy to talk you in to a bad financial decision. It's 20 year old Honda that is pricier then a KLR, has lower parts availability, and lets be honest, has been outclassed by newer bikes like the DL650. I love mine, and just remember, life is too short to not ride a 20 year old Honda. soy posted:Ooh, the transalp is pretty attractive. I am very shallow, and I really can't stand how the KLR or the V-Strom look. Thanks for the constructive advice. That's because V-Storms and KLRs are stupid. They only graced our shores for two model years, same specs, but there's an easy way to tell them apart. If it's white with the red/white/blue stripes, it's an 89, anything else is a 90. blugu64 fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Jul 25, 2010 |
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The best part about Transalps is that you've got this really awesome set of upgrades you can do...makes it 100 pounds lighter, gives it more options for engine mods, increases parts availability, and increases reliability... All you gotta do is trade it in on a DRZ400.  they are awesome looking but the idea of taking a fully faired bike with unobtanium fairings offroad makes me cry like a little babby
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Z3n posted:The best part about Transalps is that you've got this really awesome set of upgrades you can do...makes it 100 pounds lighter, gives it more options for engine mods, increases parts availability, and increases reliability... A few folks end up actually just buying AfricaTwin fairings and using those. You're still stuck with hunting them down on ebay.de though. Apparently if you get the set and a gas tank, they all bolt up nicely if you modify your seat just a little bit. That and it looks totally awesome. The best part is the fact that nobody has ever heard of them, and if you take it to the dealer, they will A. not know what the gently caress it is, and B. Not have any parts. 
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Spiffness posted:They are bulletproof through and through. It would take an amazing feat of bad luck or neglect to destroy one. Becky is testing this as we speak
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Thanks guys. I think I'll pass on the Transalp since it doesn't sound like a perfect bike. I'm sure it's sweet but since I'm not deadset on a DS right now, nor on a rare bike, I'll wait till I find something I'm dead set on.
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What would be a good bike for a brand new rider who's 6'5", 220 pounds and wants a sport bike that's moderately fast (75+) but won't dump me (unless I do something really stupid), is easy to maintain, is reasonably cheap (3-4 grand or less, preferably less) and looks good?
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FirstPlayer posted:What would be a good bike for a brand new rider who's 6'5", 220 pounds and wants a sport bike that's moderately fast (75+) but won't dump me (unless I do something really stupid), is easy to maintain, is reasonably cheap (3-4 grand or less, preferably less) and looks good? Not sure you're going to find anything that's going to meet those criteria. The closest I can get is a Triumph Daytona 600. Its predecessor, the TT600, is also a decent bet, but probably won't look good enough for you. Pretty much anything will need re-springing for your weight, especially at the back.
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Anything. The additional 40 pounds you have over me isn't going to slow you down any, as a general rule sportbikes are uncomfortable, and you need to go sit on a bunch of bikes (ninja 250, 500, GS500, big singles, whatever) to figure out what is going to be comfortable enough for you to ride. Your weight definitely isn't a concern, your size isn't a concern, how your body is constructed is. Any motorcycle will be plenty fast to start out with.
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FirstPlayer posted:What would be a good bike for a brand new rider who's 6'5", 220 pounds and wants a sport bike that's moderately fast (75+) but won't dump me (unless I do something really stupid), is easy to maintain, is reasonably cheap (3-4 grand or less, preferably less) and looks good? All the usual recommendations, Z3n listed a bunch of 'em. Your height is going to be a bit of a problem, but it depends how you're sized proportionally. You need to go sit on everything and see what fits. Don't worry about something being fast enough. Just about anything will haul you around without problems. *edit* I know you said you're looking for a sportbike, but check out a Supermoto like the DRZ400-SM. Also the KLR650, but it's just a big dirt bike. Supermotos and anything that's dirtbike-like tend to do well for tall people.
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Bad Munki posted:Here are a few bikes: Those 80cc bikes will be like clown bikes unless you are an extremely short person. Unless you want to race or get into motocross do not get a race/motocross 250+cc like the Yamaha yz series, Honda crf-r series, Suzuki RM's, and Kawasaki kx's and you will be fine as they all make a ton of peaky power and have really close gearing from what I understand. I have a Yamaha TTR-225 and it serves me well tooling around in the woods and along logging trails. Looking around online and I see it has an amazing 15 horsepower, but its air cooled. Liquid cooled bikes (250ish cc) will make about twice that and race 250s will do about 50hp. Id get that CRF 250X but its probably going to be more than $1k. This thread will have more info.
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SanitysEdge posted:Those 80cc bikes will be like clown bikes unless you are an extremely short person. Unless you want to race or get into motocross do not get a race/motocross 250+cc like the Yamaha yz series, Honda crf-r series, Suzuki RM's, and Kawasaki kx's and you will be fine as they all make a ton of peaky power and have really close gearing from what I understand. Thanks for the tip(s). Like I said, I have no idea what most of those bikes even look like in person. I'm not surprised that a couple of them are "junior" size or whatever, since thats what a lot of kids around here learn on. Mostly, I'm just looking for something I can spend a minimum amount of money on just so I can see if this is something I want to spend more money on. Of course, ideally, any bike I buy would at least last me the rest of the season, maybe next as well. Although I imagine that the more I enjoy it, the less time the bike will last, capability-wise, just because I'll be more inclined to push myself harder.  I'll check out the other thread. Hadn't noticed it before, so thanks on that. 
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I've been having a nasty riding itch the last few weeks...and have been considering picking up another bike. I came across a dealer that has a 2008 Honda CBR1000rr in Victory Red/Black for 7499. The catch is the bike is a demo with 2200 miles on it. I know demo models are just like buying new warranty wise...but is it worth spending less money on a bike with most likely 2200 rough miles on it?
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Auron posted:I've been having a nasty riding itch the last few weeks...and have been considering picking up another bike. I came across a dealer that has a 2008 Honda CBR1000rr in Victory Red/Black for 7499. The catch is the bike is a demo with 2200 miles on it. I know demo models are just like buying new warranty wise...but is it worth spending less money on a bike with most likely 2200 rough miles on it? Considering I bought a brand new 08 CBR1000 (0 mile) last november for a bit less than that I'd say you could do better... . They still should have a bigass rebate on them. Make the dealer honest. There's nothing wrong with the demo bike but there's no way in hell it's worth that kind of money.
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needknees posted:Considering I bought a brand new 08 CBR1000 (0 mile) last november for a bit less than that I'd say you could do better... Wow that's a steal! The demo is with a 4500 "rebate" on it. I couldn't find an 08 new for anywhere near that around here.
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Been doing a little more reading now that you guys have helped exclude a few bikes. Looking more closely at this 97 RT100 I'm thinking maybe it'd be a good plan. Most of the reviews seem to have what I'm after: "good learner's bike" and "will wheelie in 1, 2, or 3" and "sucks for jumps". That pretty much sounds great. There are a few complaints about the suspension (which I think that last one is related to), I guess maybe the front is fine but the rear is lacking travel? I dunno. I'm 5'10", so the 34" seat height sounds good, I won't feel like my head's totally in the clouds...of course, any dirt bike's going to seem tall coming from a cruiser. Can anyone tell me if this is a patently bad idea? Also if the pricing seems reasonable. http://desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/1841773302.html
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Auron posted:I've been having a nasty riding itch the last few weeks...and have been considering picking up another bike. I came across a dealer that has a 2008 Honda CBR1000rr in Victory Red/Black for 7499. The catch is the bike is a demo with 2200 miles on it. I know demo models are just like buying new warranty wise...but is it worth spending less money on a bike with most likely 2200 rough miles on it? After reading how careful you need to be running in the 08-> Blades I'd run far away. Particularly with their propensity for oval bores.
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It's the wrong answer in every way but I've always wanted one. Especially with the harlequin paint scheme.
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Z3n posted:Heavy, less power than the DRZ, lovely parts availability, and just as expensive? WHERE DO I SIGN UP?!?!?! DRZ makes 50hp? Engine is the same as in the Yamaha MT-03, Tenere, Aprilia Pegaso, and maybe some other stuff too (all of which I'd pick over the MZ). Heavier than one for sure though. Not much isn't. edit: just looked at the specs, it only makes 37hp in MZ trim? That's got to be at the wheel. I know Aprilia tuned theirs for a little more hp, but I thought it was only 2 or 3. Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jul 27, 2010 |
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Linedance posted:DRZ makes 50hp? Engine is the same as in the Yamaha MT-03, Tenere, Aprilia Pegaso, and maybe some other stuff too (all of which I'd pick over the MZ). Heavier than one for sure though. Not much isn't. Nah, they're hideously underpowered. Really sad. It was a consideration for the fiancee's Sumo but got passed over for the reasons mentioned.
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