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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Have you considered the Dorsoduro as well? You can consider the 750 Aprilias to basically be grown up SVs, with higher spec components, nice smooth V-twin engines, and gear driven cams, which sound awesome.

The upside to the shiver is the bigger gas tank, the upside to the dorsoduro is longer travel suspension.

Comedy option: Ducati streetfighter.

What rough price range are you looking in? That'll help at least narrow down things a bit :)

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2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Mcqueen posted:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/1965674990.html
Would be loving awesome.

I wont be looking at a new bike until I finish school in a couple months, just kind of getting the lay of the land as far as options go. Would love to hear of thoughts or experiences.

The motor is pretty awesome. All it wants to do is rev and rev and rev. Clutch is freaking heavy though.

Mcqueen
Feb 26, 2007

'HEY MOM, I'M DONE WITH MY SEGMENT!'


Soiled Meat

Z3n posted:

Have you considered the Dorsoduro as well? You can consider the 750 Aprilias to basically be grown up SVs, with higher spec components, nice smooth V-twin engines, and gear driven cams, which sound awesome.

The upside to the shiver is the bigger gas tank, the upside to the dorsoduro is longer travel suspension.

Comedy option: Ducati streetfighter.

What rough price range are you looking in? That'll help at least narrow down things a bit :)

The gas tank on the FZ6 is larger than the Shiver. I do like the specs on the Dorsoduro size wise but its so ugly I would almost rather get a Super Duke or something crazy retarded like that. Zen, I recall you trying out a Harley XR1200R, correct? What did you think of it? Is the sportster model as small as my friend makes it out to be? I'll probably be selling my FZ6 and adding about 4k to that. So what, 7-9k budget?

Good Ship Theseus
Sep 12, 2010

Immortality through endless server backups? Sign me up!
'Sup craxy Cycle goons.

I'm getting my class 6 (BC Motorcycle license) in a week or so and am looking at these fine options:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/mcy/1967015027.html
(My top pick, party for the look and condition, partly for the hardcases and windjammer/fairing.)

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bnc/mcy/1968425500.html
(Cheaper, a bit less pretty, but half the price of the first one!)

And:
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/mcy/1968093169.html
(I'm a sucker for the GS1100's - I dunno why.)

I learned as teenager on my Dad's '81 Maxim 1100, and I'm a big, sturdy guy (230 lbs, 6' even). $2000 is the top of my budget for a bike for now, as I still have to pay for riding gear. I don't have a car (Vancouver's public transit rocks!), and I'd ideally like to take this bike around town and on the odd road trip.

Also: Vancouver biker goons - represent! :canada:

Edit: Answered by Z3n in another thread - thanks!

Good Ship Theseus fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Sep 23, 2010

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Mcqueen posted:

The gas tank on the FZ6 is larger than the Shiver. I do like the specs on the Dorsoduro size wise but its so ugly I would almost rather get a Super Duke or something crazy retarded like that. Zen, I recall you trying out a Harley XR1200R, correct? What did you think of it? Is the sportster model as small as my friend makes it out to be? I'll probably be selling my FZ6 and adding about 4k to that. So what, 7-9k budget?

Yeah, but the Dorsoduro has a really small tank, figure 100 miles if you're riding sedately, less if you ride aggressively.

I've never had the chance to ride an XR1200. :( I'd love to, but just haven't had the chance yet. The sportster is a perfectly acceptable bike, sort of the harley equivalent to the SV, with a lot of hopups and suspension upgrades. I think you'd be let down if you're leaning towards the performance side of things, unless you were buying a heavily modded one.

The super duke wouldn't be a bad option either. There's a lot of potential out there in that budget range.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

Mcqueen posted:

The gas tank on the FZ6 is larger than the Shiver. I do like the specs on the Dorsoduro size wise but its so ugly I would almost rather get a Super Duke or something crazy retarded like that. Zen, I recall you trying out a Harley XR1200R, correct? What did you think of it? Is the sportster model as small as my friend makes it out to be? I'll probably be selling my FZ6 and adding about 4k to that. So what, 7-9k budget?

Have you tried just going 3 teeth up on the back sprocket (or one down on the front)?

It's cheaper than a new bike if you're finding the FZ a bit revvy.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



One of the local Harley dealers is having a demo day this weekend so I'm gonna go see if I can get on an XR1200X for a bit.

ari.gato
Aug 13, 2003
I think I'm in lurve. I want to try out that XR1200X. Would make a SICK cafe bike.

EDIT - Gotta check out the Aprilia Shiver 750 too. Man I love that there are more sport standards available now.

ari.gato fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 23, 2010

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

Mcqueen posted:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/1965674990.html
Would be loving awesome.

I wont be looking at a new bike until I finish school in a couple months, just kind of getting the lay of the land as far as options go. Would love to hear of thoughts or experiences.

I would look for a Tuono if you want a semi exotic that is pretty darn reliable. They've been making the Tuono for ages now and the engine is very proven. You can get one for less than most of the Shivers out there I would guess. I've owned a Falco for a couple of years now and I've had really no issues.

JohnnyDangerously
Aug 3, 2007
Disgruntled
So I'm going to take a look at this bike tomorrow.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/21062/ITEM/REVIT-Ignition-Jacket.aspx?sst=RR|21062

I've done a crap load of research on it, but any first-hand accounts with Triumphs? I'm afraid I have 0, and I hate to be uneducated.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



That's a jacket.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

Endless Mike posted:

That's a jacket.

Research unsuccessful, dammit.

needknees
Apr 4, 2006

Oh. My.

JohnnyDangerously posted:

So I'm going to take a look at this bike tomorrow.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/21062/ITEM/REVIT-Ignition-Jacket.aspx?sst=RR|21062

I've done a crap load of research on it, but any first-hand accounts with Triumphs? I'm afraid I have 0, and I hate to be uneducated.

Gotta love copy/paste mismatches :). At least it was still bike related and not porn!

JohnnyDangerously
Aug 3, 2007
Disgruntled
Wow, I'm an idiot.

http://www.triumphrat.net/triumph-motorcycles-for-sale/138862-2003-speed-four-roulette-green.html

This is the bike.

I'm so glad I didn't link porn.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Personally, I'm kinda let down that you didn't.

JohnnyDangerously
Aug 3, 2007
Disgruntled

Bad Munki posted:

Personally, I'm kinda let down that you didn't.

I mean, I can if you want..

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

JohnnyDangerously posted:

Wow, I'm an idiot.

http://www.triumphrat.net/triumph-motorcycles-for-sale/138862-2003-speed-four-roulette-green.html

This is the bike.

I'm so glad I didn't link porn.

I had never heard of speed fours until you linked to that. How rare are they?

[panic]
Aug 16, 2000

bounce bounce bounce
OK, so I have backed off of that vintage Triumph...just too old and I don't need the issues with my first bike. Here are my options (graduating MSF tomorrow!!) Trying to stick to something with mid-range power that isn't too old.

2003 Suzuki Savage LS650 - $2100
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1957534589.html

2007 Yamaha V Star 650 Custom - $2800
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1957875312.html

2007 Suzuki Boulevard S40 650 - $3000
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1965391483.html

2000 Honda Shadow VLX 600 - $1950
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1964795171.html

2003 Kawasaki Vulcan LTD 500 - $1900
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1972686829.html

2005 Honda Shadow Spirit VT 750 - $2800
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1965739868.html

1995 Suzuki Intruder 800 - $1800
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1971039272.html

I really don't have much preference for any of those over the others (maybe the Boulevard is my favorite just based on looks). Any of those seem especially better or worse than any of the others? Again, this is for my first bike, with a grand total of two MSF days worth of riding experience. Thanks e-friends.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
What type of riding do you expect to be doing? A lot of freeway? A lot of curvy mountain roads?

I'd say if you're doing more curvy roads and around town, the LTD is what I'd lean towards, more freeway and stuff, the VLX.

I wouldn't buy the more expensive ones, just because you're probably going to lose more money in depreciation if you decide that cruisers just aren't up your alley. You could ride that LTD or the VLX for 10k miles and sell it for almost what you've bought it for, which is exactly what you want in a starter bike.

Don't have any commentary on the reliability of those 2 though, they're just what popped out at me. I'd avoid the savage because it's a single.

The intruder could be a good choice too, if it's been well maintained, you talk him down a bit, and you're going to be doing a lot of freeway.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
I'd go the Vulcan 500 either way, myself. The motor's a retuned version of the parallel twin from the venerable Ninja 500, and it'll have different performance characteristics than any of the v-twins.

The Boulevard S40 is the Savage 650, they just renamed it. It's a single, which is not inherently bad - ask any sumo owner - but it may not be the most fun for extended rides.

[panic]
Aug 16, 2000

bounce bounce bounce
Thanks guys. I'll mostly be using the bike around town, some freeway, no mountain stuff at all (though it is hilly out here).

Blaster of Justice
Jan 6, 2007

by angerbot

"[panic posted:

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Thanks guys. I'll mostly be using the bike around town, some freeway, no mountain stuff at all (though it is hilly out here).

Get the V-Star 650. For what you want, this the best bike of what you listed. Period.

Marv Hushman
Jun 2, 2010

Freedom Ain't Free
:911::911::911:

"[panic posted:

"]
Thanks guys. I'll mostly be using the bike around town, some freeway, no mountain stuff at all (though it is hilly out here).

Go with the Spirit--anything on the list will be fine, but the inevitable sale/upgrade will occur later rather than sooner. Agree with Z3n's assessment on flipping the VLX, because I've done it--although I think it was closer to 15K on the clock and I sold it for more. It really is a well-built and unbreakable machine, and I took it everywhere.

Keep in mind that most if not all of these have forward controls, which is not everyone's cup o' tea. Also, if you do change your mind and add more highway to the mix, the VLX's wheelhouse is right in the 65-70mph range--it's like sitting on a paint shaker at anything over that, but it will get up there. Hence my leaning toward the Spirit.

Tigren
Oct 3, 2003
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/1976307450.html

Good enough price? I've finished my MSF, but still need to get my license. This should last me some time, right?

Uncle Ivan
Aug 31, 2001
Any problems/gremlins I should watch out for with a 2004 Triumph Sprint RS 955i? They seem pretty cheap, and besides the ugly styling, I can get most of a Speed Triple, mostly the awesome triple. Anything specific to look for on the used bike inspection? I should be able to get one for a little over $3500 probably.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Uncle Ivan posted:

Any problems/gremlins I should watch out for with a 2004 Triumph Sprint RS 955i? They seem pretty cheap, and besides the ugly styling, I can get most of a Speed Triple, mostly the awesome triple. Anything specific to look for on the used bike inspection? I should be able to get one for a little over $3500 probably.

Not really, no. They're pretty solid.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Uncle Ivan posted:

Any problems/gremlins I should watch out for with a 2004 Triumph Sprint RS 955i? They seem pretty cheap, and besides the ugly styling, I can get most of a Speed Triple, mostly the awesome triple. Anything specific to look for on the used bike inspection? I should be able to get one for a little over $3500 probably.

Make sure it idles nicely. It'll sound like a bag of hammers, but my T595 had fueling issues that were never sorted out and I've heard rumors of that same problem occasionally cropping up on the 955is too, although they were supposedly better.

Jack Black
Nov 6, 2007
Alright, a cherries jubilee and that's it.
So if I were to pick between them, which is the better choice and why? (Before going to look at them, that is, and seeing what shape they are actually in):

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/mcy/1959467200.html

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Jack Black posted:

So if I were to pick between them, which is the better choice and why? (Before going to look at them, that is, and seeing what shape they are actually in):

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/mcy/1959467200.html

The better choice is both of them for 500$ and make one working bike out of 2 non-working ones.

Uncle Ivan
Aug 31, 2001

Z3n posted:

Make sure it idles nicely. It'll sound like a bag of hammers, but my T595 had fueling issues that were never sorted out and I've heard rumors of that same problem occasionally cropping up on the 955is too, although they were supposedly better.

Can you elaborate more on this? A throttle body sync problem or a fuel pump problem?

Besides that, the main difference between the RS and the ST is that the RS is half faired whereas the ST is full faired as I understand it, plus some suspension differences. And the main difference between the RS and the Speed Triple is that the Speed Triple doesn't look like crap.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
It took Triumph a few years to get their EFI mapping properly sorted. But they did stick at it and got most of them sorted, so your best bet will be to check with the owner and see when they last had it at a Triumph dealer. If they haven't, take it in and get them to load the latest map in. Takes 10 minutes, they'll probably do it for $20.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

2ndclasscitizen posted:

It took Triumph a few years to get their EFI mapping properly sorted. But they did stick at it and got most of them sorted, so your best bet will be to check with the owner and see when they last had it at a Triumph dealer. If they haven't, take it in and get them to load the latest map in. Takes 10 minutes, they'll probably do it for $20.

This is what I ended up doing. Unfortunately, the solution was to make it run stupid rich at low RPM to prevent it from stalling. I think that was more limited to the earlier ones though, the later ones should have decent maps.

MidasAg
Oct 28, 2007
The Man of Silver
So, I've been thinking more and more, and if I do get a bike, I'm looking more and more at a DRZ. But what technically is the difference between a DRZ 400 E/S/SM? other than tires/brakes?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
E and s both run offroad rims with smaller front rotors for offroad. The sm has 17 inch wheels, with a larger 270mm front rotor.

The s and the sm are both road legal, the e model is not road legal and has more aggressive cams and a higher compression thanks to a thinner base gasket.

Some people have gotten e models road legal, or you can bring the s models up to e spec with a cam and base gasket swap.

The e also has a bigger stock exhaust and a shorter subframe that doesn't allow for passengers. Everything else is the same.

MidasAg
Oct 28, 2007
The Man of Silver
Awesome, thank you.

[panic]
Aug 16, 2000

bounce bounce bounce
OK, final question (I hope...), thoughts on this bike? It is the Suzuki Intruder 800

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1979549074.html

It seems to be on the powerful side for my first bike, but really not so much more so than some of the others on the list. He will sell for $1800 and says the bike is in near-perfect condition. If it is, is this a good buy? I was really looking for something newer but it seems like a pretty decent deal. Clear title, new tires.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

"[panic posted:

"]
OK, final question (I hope...), thoughts on this bike? It is the Suzuki Intruder 800

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1979549074.html

It seems to be on the powerful side for my first bike, but really not so much more so than some of the others on the list. He will sell for $1800 and says the bike is in near-perfect condition. If it is, is this a good buy? I was really looking for something newer but it seems like a pretty decent deal. Clear title, new tires.

Seems fairly decent, if everything was maintained well, the bike will do the distance.

Hazlen
May 5, 2007
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Ok guys, here's a tough one. I've been thinking about upgrading from my Ninja 250 and I've come across 2 candidates, both are in my price range.

2007 GSXr 600, 4500 miles "showroom condition" -$4000
http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/mcy/1978451615.html

2007 Yamaha R6 11k miles -$4500
http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/mcy/1979707202.html

The guy with the R6 I emailed and already got a response from

"I purchased the bike from the original owner in early 08. It has 11,049 miles on it. It has been down once, low speed and only cosmetic damage. I have since replaced most of the fairing on that side and put a new stator cover on since the old one was scratched. The only evidence of it being down still on the bike is the mid fairing has a small nickel sized scuff on it and the mirror on that side has some small light scratches on the underside of it. It runs great and have never had a problem with it. I have changed the oil every 1500-2000 miles. Since owning it I have only run Royal Purple Motorcycle synthetic oil in it."

He also gave me a hi-res picture but only of the right side, which looks pretty sweet. I'll post it if someone requests it.

I would love to hear your guy's input

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I'd take the GSX-R, if you're looking for a supersport. Cheaper, lower mileage, newer, and not the "base model".

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FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


I'd check out...
http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/mcy/1975037433.html
Given its not a shitfest, the ad certainly sucks. 750's are just better than 600's

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