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frozenphil posted:What do you get with long tubes, full exhaust, 4.10 gears, a Vortech supercharger pushing 7psi, and everything else stock on a 2011 5.0 with an automatic? You get 10s. If he's running on the stock internals we can imagine that this car isn't going to last very long pushing 7 psi. Then again there's been a few people running superchargers on the '11s on some Mustang forums already and I haven't heard of a blown motor yet. I'm really really excited to see the first 5.0 that's running a blower with new internals. 500+ rwhp on a bulletproof setup is really really exciting. I'd like to see how much a project like that ends up costing.
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frozenphil posted:What do you get with long tubes, full exhaust, 4.10 gears, a Vortech supercharger pushing 7psi, and everything else stock on a 2011 5.0 with an automatic? You get 10s. That's pretty excellent.
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kronix posted:If he's running on the stock internals we can imagine that this car isn't going to last very long pushing 7 psi. Then again there's been a few people running superchargers on the '11s on some Mustang forums already and I haven't heard of a blown motor yet. He made 528rwhp with his setup. Whipple's kit was fully OE part tested by Ford at 7psi and passed with flying colors. I don't think the engine will be a problem at these boost levels as long as the tune is done right and keeps detonation at bay. Here's a fun game, spot the difference between the 5.0 rods up top and the GT500 rods below:   Edit: Hint, there isn't a difference in material or forging technique, only the length is different.
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frozenphil posted:He made 528rwhp with his setup. Whipple's kit was fully OE part tested by Ford at 7psi and passed with flying colors. I don't think the engine will be a problem at these boost levels as long as the tune is done right and keeps detonation at bay. I suppose I'm just going by posts I've seen on other forums and this: http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_1003_2011_ford_mustang_gt_50_coyote_engine/index.html I'll be the first to admit I don't know crap about this stuff so my knowledge is pretty much limited to what I read on the internet(aka crap). I'd like to know what you think about this snippet of the article linked above. quote:The Coyote team says the forged. powdered-metal connecting rod is the least robust link in the 5.0 chain. Engineers noted it is absolutely strong enough for its naturally aspirated application in the Mustang, but just absolutely strong enough. It's worth noting that while the Coyote rod shares its big- and small-end diameters plus its center-to-center length with the 4.6 rod, the Coyote rod has been redesigned to more evenly distribute bearing loads and is definitely an improved piece. From what I'm reading, the new 5.0 is much less blower friendly than the outgoing 4.6 and a lot of it has to do with the already high compression ratio. What kind of boost can you push in a daily driven 4.6 and still have the car be semi reliable? The way people have made it sound, I figured it was the end of easy to boost Mustangs. It seemed like the last few years, people were puttering around town in blown mustangs left and right, not just ripping up the strip. It doesn't appear to be as easy in the 5.0.
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kronix posted:I suppose I'm just going by posts I've seen on other forums and this: http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_1003_2011_ford_mustang_gt_50_coyote_engine/index.html That article just states 5.0 Mustang's opinion about the GT rods; they tend to be pessimists about stock parts. The forced induction companies are all using the Ti-VCT system to alter the dynamic compression ratio of the engine. According to a rep from Whipple they can alter the dynamic compression ratio all the way down to around 8.5:1 by keeping the exhaust valve open longer with the Ti-VCT system.
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Also, 5.0 Magazine wouldn't sell many ads for rod manufacturers if they stated that the stock rods are adequate.
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How is Ford coming out ahead financially with the new 5.0? It seems like the better quality parts, manufacturing, engineering, etc. would add a lot to the cost of car. Some of that goes back to buyers in the form of a higher price, but a lot like the engineering costs have to be amortized over time. What I'm really curious/worried about is, will the new 5.0 be like the 5th generation VW GTI/Rabbit which had a strong product at release but cost too much and had to be watered down in its next iteration?
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mod sassinator posted:How is Ford coming out ahead financially with the new 5.0? It seems like the better quality parts, manufacturing, engineering, etc. would add a lot to the cost of car. Some of that goes back to buyers in the form of a higher price, but a lot like the engineering costs have to be amortized over time. What I'm really curious/worried about is, will the new 5.0 be like the 5th generation VW GTI/Rabbit which had a strong product at release but cost too much and had to be watered down in its next iteration? My 5.0 was almost $38k out the door. It isn't exactly an inexpensive car.
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mod sassinator posted:How is Ford coming out ahead financially with the new 5.0? It seems like the better quality parts, manufacturing, engineering, etc. would add a lot to the cost of car. Some of that goes back to buyers in the form of a higher price, but a lot like the engineering costs have to be amortized over time. What I'm really curious/worried about is, will the new 5.0 be like the 5th generation VW GTI/Rabbit which had a strong product at release but cost too much and had to be watered down in its next iteration? My 2003 GT premium was $24,995 out the door, where a 2011 GT premium runs real close to $40k or more depending on options. A $15k increase in 8 years is more than just inflation.
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frozenphil posted:My 2003 GT premium was $24,995 out the door, where a 2011 GT premium runs real close to $40k or more depending on options. A $15k increase in 8 years is more than just inflation.
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Sep 25, 2010 02:53
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If you paid MSRP for a Ford in 1997, you were swindled. MSRP are closer to actual prices now.
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Presto posted:It depends. I dug out the window sticker for my '97 convertible, which had an MSRP of $29,010 with all the options (minus delivery). A base 2011 GT premium convertible lists for $37,845 and has more stuff standard than my old one had as options. So that's less than nine grand after 13 years for a much better car with a much better engine, which is actually slightly less than inflation. You should probably compare your convertible to another convertible as that silly disappearing roof adds a lot to the price of the car.
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frozenphil posted:You should probably compare your convertible to another convertible as that silly disappearing roof adds a lot to the price of the car. 
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Presto posted:I did. I read gud.  Was it a Cobra? The MSRP for the 1997 premium GT convertible was $23,985. How did you add $6k?
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frozenphil posted:I read gud.
Minus $500 for a package discount.
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frozenphil posted:My 2003 GT premium was $24,995 out the door, where a 2011 GT premium runs real close to $40k or more depending on options. A $15k increase in 8 years is more than just inflation. what?? a premium GT with comfort pkg, electronics pkg, 3.73, brembo brake pkg, & HID runs $39,500 MSRP (which is retarded in the day and age of costco auto).. electronics pkg and comfort pkg i could be without easily, since theyre both fuckin useless to me (okay i moved seat now i dont need to move it again especially for $600. Also i dont need loving $2000 sirius radio, and dont need $2000 voice navigation when a $100 garmin will do me just fine once a year when i need it). the GT premium is decked the gently caress out as is, really doesnt need any options. You dont "need" brembo package so you cant draw an equivalency between that and a 2003 GT. The minimum-good-options-but-holy-poo poo-still-blows-the-doors-off-a-2003 GT price stands hair above $35,000, but really $33k. If you compare apples to apples, V6 premium would be the thing to compare. coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Sep 25, 2010 |
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frozenphil posted:What do you get with long tubes, full exhaust, 4.10 gears, a Vortech supercharger pushing 7psi, and everything else stock on a 2011 5.0 with an automatic? You get 10s. I watched the not very exciting "up next video" for that, and then noticed this in the related videos. "2011 Mustang GT vs Camaro SS" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkmUfnBMZDI
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What is the point of that
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I would like to say thank you to the Mustang for providing the new 5.0 V8 for our FPV range over here in Australia. http://www.fpv.com.au/the-new-boss-v8.aspx
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I saw a Mclaren Mustang today, it's my understanding that these were fairly uncommon? Click here for the full 1280x960 image.
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winstor posted:I would like to say thank you to the Mustang for providing the new 5.0 V8 for our FPV range over here in Australia. So your supercharged 32v 5.0 gets roughly the same hp as our naturally aspirated 32v 5.0?
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335 kilowatts is about 450 horsepower and if you look at the torque curve its as flat as a pancake once it reaches 2000 rpm. Evidently, its being intentionally limited.
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Parabellum posted:335 kilowatts is about 450 horsepower and if you look at the torque curve its as flat as a pancake once it reaches 2000 rpm. Evidently, its being intentionally limited. Yeah I figured it was corked, I just wonder why they didn't just use the regular 5.0 in the name of simplicity.
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Imperador do Brasil posted:So your supercharged 32v 5.0 gets roughly the same hp as our naturally aspirated 32v 5.0? Pretty sure this was already gone over earlier in the thread but apparently ford australia likes to publish numbers from rwhp... so its 450hp/420ftlb of torque to the rear wheels. That means its going to make at least 517hp and 483 ft/lbs of torque at the fly wheel. Of course the 5.0 mustang gt seems to be underrated, so im guessing this engine is too. Fuckin crazy stuff.
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Imperador do Brasil posted:Yeah I figured it was corked, I just wonder why they didn't just use the regular 5.0 in the name of simplicity. Branding, for the most part. But its not really the regular 5.0 either. Its got a complete forged rotating assembly by FPV and the blower, of course. We might get the basic 5.0 here at the end of the year for the XR8 FGII.
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Just wanted to say that my Header back exhaust and my 4/10 gears are on the way an next is a tune and getting her ready for winter. I love my car :-) 
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Took the Bullitt out to the track again last weekend. My friend in a modified 330ci only lapped me once in our 20-minute run I bet I can keep up with him with better tires and brakes. Ford Racing now has the GT500 SVT wheels on its site. Tempting!
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:I saw a Mclaren Mustang today, it's my understanding that these were fairly uncommon? My neighbor has one exactly like that, and I see them once in awhile around here so I don't think they're really that rare.
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leica posted:My neighbor has one exactly like that, and I see them once in awhile around here so I don't think they're really that rare. Real ones are apparently really rare: Wikipedia posted:McLaren M81 Mustang Looks like this is an ASC/McLaren, which looks like it's basically just a two-seater conversion?
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leica posted:My neighbor has one exactly like that, and I see them once in awhile around here so I don't think they're really that rare. They're quite rare, actually. Less than 2,500 ASC/Mclaren convertibles were made from '84-'90. And that's including the Capris.
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Huh, must there's just a few around here I guess. I see another red one and a blue one from time to time. I wonder how much they're worth.
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leica posted:Huh, must there's just a few around here I guess. I see another red one and a blue one from time to time. I wonder how much they're worth. Nothing, yet. Give it another 15 or 20 years.
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Oh god, I was lying to myself when I said I wouldn't mod this thing. A guy is selling a 8.8 with 4.10 gears, Trutrac, fox length axles and new drum brake hardware. From what I've read I can just reuse the 7.5 axles and disc brake hardware and be on my way, correct? Also, does this look like a 7.5?  ...and does the exhaust look stock? 
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Bulk Vanderhuge posted:Oh god, I was lying to myself when I said I wouldn't mod this thing. I'm pretty sure the 7.5" axles won't work. Why in the world would you want to reuse the axles anyway? The entire point of upgrading to the 8.8 is to get the beefier axles. Buy some Strange axles that fit your application. quote:Also, does this look like a 7.5? Yes quote:...and does the exhaust look stock? Yes
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frozenphil posted:I'm pretty sure the 7.5" axles won't work. Why in the world would you want to reuse the axles anyway? The entire point of upgrading to the 8.8 is to get the beefier axles. Buy some Strange axles that fit your application. Stock 7.5 and 8.8 axles are the same, both are 28 spline. I'm also assuming the Traction Lok is 28 spline too: http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-transmission-drive-train-Ford-8-8-4-10s-5Lug-TracLok-Mustang-W0QQAdIdZ232544685 I could upgrade to a 31 spline locker and axles but I want the Detroit Tru Trac and they go for $600  That and I might go and pick up that discounted H-pipe now... Edit: poo poo, brother didn't log out Blacksofa fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Oct 1, 2010 |
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I've got a question about my '07 4.0. I'm getting a rubbing/vibrating noise when the car is in neutral with the clutch out, but it goes away completely when the clutch is in. It's quite noticeable when sitting at a traffic light, for instance. It's like opposite of a bad throwout bearing. There's also sometimes a bit of a rattle from the shifter when accelerating in 1st and 2nd gears. I took it to the dealer and they claim that it's normal transmission noise, but with some googling I found other people with the same issue who claim there's a tsb for this. Here, for example: http://www.mustangcollective.com/showthread.php?t=26281 and here: http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1coa0-my-wifes-2006-mustang-bought-new-has-what-sounds Is this really a normal noise? Or do I need to be more insistent with the dealer that it's a problem? Also, would this be covered under the bumper-to-bumper warranty (which is expired) or the powertrain warranty (which is still in effect)?
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I own an S2000 now but ever since the 5.0 was announced I've been in the closet lusting for it. Could you guys point me to some decent mustang forums? From googling there appears to be 50 million of them and I can't seem to find the "main" forum that has all the information. A forum that also has a section for racing (track, autox, not so much drag) would be helpful as well since I'm curious what kind of prep these cars need for the track.
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whiskas posted:I own an S2000 now but ever since the 5.0 was announced I've been in the closet lusting for it. What do you want out of the forum? Mustang forums are all cesspools full of the worst kinds of right wing racists on Earth, mouthbreathing retards whose only exposure to working on cars is via magazines and Internet forums, and scammers posing as legitimate businesses who pay forums owners to ban anyone who dares speak out against them. That said, most sites have a few sub forums where the knowledgeable people gather. In general, https://www.corral.net is the main hub for all things Mustang. Their classifieds can't be beat. If you're interested in the modular engines and how to make more power out of them, https://www.modularfords.com is the place to go. If you like turning your steering wheel and feeling your oxcart suspension skip all over the place sending you careening into the trees, then https://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/ is your place. Even though Corner Carvers isn't a dedicated Mustang site it is, for some inexplicable reason, full of Mustang owners. Word of warning for the above sites, do not, under any circumstances, venture outside of the tech forums on either Corral or Modular Fords. FYAD and BYOB can only hope to aspire to the concentrated retardation that is a Mustang website's general discussion forum. Do not, under any circumstances, ask questions without doing an exhaustive three day search using every keyword you can think of and several keywords you would never think to use on Corner Carvers.
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There's nothing wrong with corral.net. They're the right wing equivalent of everything else on the net that is so far left it comes back around full circle. Twice. They just really didn't like Phil for reasons I can't imagine :dreamy: (military sucks because I can't smoke pot! the south sucks (i'm moving to talledega!)) Yes. I was there for your retardation from 2000ish to 2004ish. :P But yeah, even as a conservative, corral.net made my skin crawl. Eh. Mustang site. It's not exactly high brow. Hooch302 fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 4, 2010 |
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So I just got my call from the dealership, the Mustang just got delivered...a week early. Of course this is the week I'm in Europe so I won't get to pick it up until Thursday....drat it all!. Will post pics later this week.
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