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Star War Sex Parrot posted:My coworker just explained to me that his biggest gripe about RDR was all of the time spent riding to destinations. I just realized a couple minutes ago, like 48 hours into the game, that I can take cover behind stuff by clicking the right bumper.
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"Yeah roaming around looked awesome, but gently caress it took forever."
"Wait...you can fast travel?"
"Didn't you ever try the campsite?"
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Saint Sputnik posted:I just realized a couple minutes ago, like 48 hours into the game, that I can take cover behind stuff by clicking the right bumper. It's pretty much always better to just crouch behind something instead of "taking" cover. You can aim, shoot, move, whatever much more quickly without being glued to it. It's not like Mass Effect 2 where enemies automatically hit you no matter what if you're not in cover.
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Dec 17, 2010 05:23
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Saint Sputnik posted:I just realized a couple minutes ago, like 48 hours into the game, that I can take cover behind stuff by clicking the right bumper. Had I not played GTA IV just before Red Dead Redemption, I probably wouldn't have figured that out either. I don't even remember if the game points it out or not. I think it does, but by the time it does I'd already been doing it and just sort of glossed over it. I also forgot about stagecoaches completely, and hardly ever used campsites even though I knew about them. I actually enjoyed traveling everywhere on a lone horse... it's pretty much the only way to play unless you're trying to do challenges and are getting sick of the same ambient events constantly.
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Dec 17, 2010 05:23
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You CAN fast travel; you CAN take the stagecoach, but... It's a well established fact: fast travel is for pussies. 
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Dec 17, 2010 05:33
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Tewratomeh posted:I don't even remember if the game points it out or not. I think it does, but by the time it does I'd already been doing it and just sort of glossed over it.
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Dec 17, 2010 06:13
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It's really easy to miss the stuff that pops up in the upper left corner when there's so much action on the screen. At least it doesn't stop whatever you're doing, tell you how to do some stupid thing, then make you do it five times. What I miss are the days of loading screens with helpful hints on them. Sort of. I started Fable2 for the first time today and there's this intense emotional scene at the beginning, followed by a loading screen warning me not to fart too long or I'll poo poo my pants.
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Dec 17, 2010 06:59
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I think it teaches the cover mechanic in the "Hanging Bonnie McFarlane" mission, but it's been a long time since I played that early in the game. Even earlier than that. The first Marshall mission. "Quick, John take some cover behind those rocks!" (Press RB to take cover behind rocks)
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Dec 17, 2010 07:04
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Saint Sputnik posted:followed by a loading screen warning me not to fart too long or I'll poo poo my pants. That's a useful tip even in real life.
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Dec 17, 2010 07:12
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So do you need a gold subscription to play RDR online, gently caress that than.
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Dec 19, 2010 02:56
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freakazoid posted:So do you need a gold subscription to play RDR online, gently caress that than. As far as I know, you need a Gold subscription to play any game online over Xbox Live. Why would RDR be different? 
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Dec 19, 2010 03:43
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Man. I just rented this out for a week and I spent 90% of the time shooting and skinning every animal that deared to cross my path. So much fun.
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Dec 19, 2010 04:02
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A Nice Boy posted:Oh yeah, I don't mind him at all...But he's no John. Make sure you swing by Blackwater, there's a stranger mission there you'll want to take.
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Dec 19, 2010 04:02
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I want to tear the West up wearing my bandana & generally be a bad guy but I've tried robbing safes, stores and the trains and just not felt like this side of the game delivers much fun. I can't hold anyone up or take anyone hostage (killing them may be even more "bad-guy" but doesn't feel right most of the time), when I steal a wagon I can't go in the back and rob the goods, when I kidnap a girl I don't have any lawmen trying to get her untied before the train hits her... is there a secret to having a fun bad-guy experience or is this just not something the game is designed for?
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BisonDollah posted:I want to tear the West up wearing my bandana & generally be a bad guy but I've tried robbing safes, stores and the trains and just not felt like this side of the game delivers much fun. I can't hold anyone up or take anyone hostage (killing them may be even more "bad-guy" but doesn't feel right most of the time), when I steal a wagon I can't go in the back and rob the goods, when I kidnap a girl I don't have any lawmen trying to get her untied before the train hits her... is there a secret to having a fun bad-guy experience or is this just not something the game is designed for? I don't think there's a secret. Although you *can* be a bad guy, the game seems to me designed to subtly push you towards being good 90% of the time. You'll have the most fun and get the biggest rewards by playing good most of the the time. I think its kind of cool that Rockstar managed to solve the problem with the GTA games where most of the time there's a disconnect between the cutscene character, and how people actually play the game.
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MojoAZ posted:I think its kind of cool that Rockstar managed to solve the problem with the GTA games where most of the time there's a disconnect between the cutscene character, and how people actually play the game. Running around having fun with a bazooka in GTA was a problem? I believe the ending of the game encourages destruction anyway, so I'm a little nonplussed that there's no freedom here. What else is left to do in the game!? I wanted to terrorise, damnit! =(
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play online, try to stop my dominance of xbl hardcore gang matches?
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BisonDollah posted:Running around having fun with a bazooka in GTA was a problem? I believe the ending of the game encourages destruction anyway, so I'm a little nonplussed that there's no freedom here. What else is left to do in the game!? I wanted to terrorise, damnit! =( Plus there was the endless slog of Niko going "man you're such a retard mission-NPC this is the stupidest request for a mission-sure I'll do it!" doctor 7 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Dec 19, 2010 |
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Dec 19, 2010 23:38
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I'm hoping some studio will make a game that is to RDR what Saint's Row is to GTA. More character customization and havoc-wreaking and less playing horseshoes.
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doctor 7 posted:Yeah there was a massive disconnect between cut scene Niko and game Niko. Cut scene Niko seemed like he didn't want to kill people and had genuine remorse. Gameplay Niko gunned down 50 cops a mission. That's why Ballad of Gay Tony is so much better than vanilla GTAIV. Characters point out constantly how hot-headed and insane Luis is, and most of your missions involve blowing poo poo up. Hell your primary weapon for most of the game is a gun with explosive rounds. And Luis' only complaint about killing is that it it's a pain in the rear end sometimes, and he just wants to get off the streets and take it easy.
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Saint Sputnik posted:I'm hoping some studio will make a game that is to RDR what Saint's Row is to GTA. More character customization and havoc-wreaking and less playing horseshoes. How insane could you get in the Wild West? Unless there were some serious anachronisms... Tewratomeh posted:That's why Ballad of Gay Tony is so much better than vanilla GTAIV. Characters point out constantly how hot-headed and insane Luis is, and most of your missions involve blowing poo poo up. Hell your primary weapon for most of the game is a gun with explosive rounds. And Luis' only complaint about killing is that it it's a pain in the rear end sometimes, and he just wants to get off the streets and take it easy. That and it's more fun. Niko in Liberty City just has him driving around and doing odd jobs. Luis knows what he can do and is partying, jumping off buildings, flying around in gunships, and just having a blast with fast cars and exotic weapons. If anything, the Ballad of Gay Tony is what GTA IV should have been instead of a tired story of revenge in America. More realistic, yes. But not as fun.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:How insane could you get in the Wild West? Unless there were some serious anachronisms... Mostly the character customization. The most fun I've had in RDR is running around multiplayer as Zombie Rickets. Especially the absurdity of sitting through a game of high-stakes poker as a zombie or one of those huge miners with sticks of dynamite strapped to his head. But as soon as you see someone with the same character model as you, it kind of ruins it. But yeah there's a bunch more "bad guy" stuff a wild west game could do, like BisonDollah said. Robbing a train or stagecoach? Or even blowing up a train by shooting the boiler a bunch of times, or riding next to a stagecoach and throwing a stick of dynamite inside? Yes please.
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Saint Sputnik posted:Mostly the character customization. The most fun I've had in RDR is running around multiplayer as Zombie Rickets. Especially the absurdity of sitting through a game of high-stakes poker as a zombie or one of those huge miners with sticks of dynamite strapped to his head. But as soon as you see someone with the same character model as you, it kind of ruins it. That's why you don't pick specific, distinct-looking characters for multiplayer. I picked one of the generic zombies and wandered around spamming the moan button, having a blast. For whatever reason, a bunch of guys I was playing Free For All against even seemed confused at the fact that I was a zombie... it's like they had absolutely no idea that there was an undead DLC that had been out for like a month. I'm actually surprised I didn't see more Free Roam zombies with how popular Undead Nightmare is. Either people don't know about the Free Roam zombie options or they take their Wild West sandbox videogaming way too seriously. I guess my point is that even with crazy customization options a lot of people in multiplayer probably wouldn't take advantage of it. You'd see 362 variations on either "masked bandit" or "lawman", mostly the former. Oh, and as much as I hate to admit it I think a Steampunk add-on would be nice for multiplayer. Maybe have it separate from the main game so purists wouldn't whine about it.
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Saint Sputnik posted:But as soon as you see someone with the same character model as you, it kind of ruins it. That's why I run around as one of the Native Americans. Nobody uses them. Plus it makes the tomahawk cooler to use. The fact that my gamertag is Diesel just adds a tiny little joke that only I appreciate.
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Also I want the chance to crash two trains into each other.AmbassadorFriendly posted:That's why I run around as one of the Native Americans. Nobody uses them. Plus it makes the tomahawk cooler to use. The fact that my gamertag is Diesel just adds a tiny little joke that only I appreciate. I think I might have played poker or something against you (GT AudreyHeartburn)
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I still want to get a posse together of all Lawmen (unless Herbert Moon became available) and then going to "arrest" random players.
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Tewratomeh posted:Oh, and as much as I hate to admit it I think a Steampunk add-on would be nice for multiplayer. Maybe have it separate from the main game so purists wouldn't whine about it. 
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betterinsodapop posted:Big fan of Wild Wild West? Well yeah, who isn't? That show kicked rear end.
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betterinsodapop posted:Big fan of Wild Wild West? *choose Pig Josh* *Enter Freeroam* *Push B* "ME AND ARTEMUS CLYDE FROG GO AND SAVE SELMA HAYEK FROM THE BIG METAL SPIDERRRR"
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 December 21st only Liars & Cheats Pack: Legends & Killers Pack: Undead Nightmare: Undead Nightmare Collection: edit: are either of the Liars & Cheats or Legends & Killers packs worth it? pseudorandom name fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Dec 21, 2010 |
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I just got Undead Nightmare. Man did I feel bad sad about killing all those bigfoots after that last ones little speech. Sorry mr. Samsquanch.
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pseudorandom name posted:
Too bad I won't be near my box on the 21st, I'd like to play poker against some saps.
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fennesz posted:Too bad I won't be near my box on the 21st, I'd like to play poker against some saps.
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pseudorandom name posted:edit: are either of the Liars & Cheats or Legends & Killers packs worth it? I'd also like to know this (I already have Undead Nightmare). Would my £8.50 be better off spent on some Arcade games?
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BisonDollah posted:I'd also like to know this (I already have Undead Nightmare). Would my £8.50 be better off spent on some Arcade games? Do you like RDR multiplayer? Would you like to add more to it? Then get the packs.
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Tewratomeh posted:That's why Ballad of Gay Tony is so much better than vanilla GTAIV. Characters point out constantly how hot-headed and insane Luis is, and most of your missions involve blowing poo poo up. Hell your primary weapon for most of the game is a gun with explosive rounds. And Luis' only complaint about killing is that it it's a pain in the rear end sometimes, and he just wants to get off the streets and take it easy. EDIT: Also buy the Undead Collection for 1200 points. You get all 3 packs and it'll so be worth it.
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doctor 7 posted:EDIT: Also buy the Undead Collection for 1200 points. You get all 3 packs and it'll so be worth it. 
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doctor 7 posted:I actually preferred the story of Saints Row 2 to GTAIV because it was at least consistent with the gameplay. You were loving psycho, through and through. Saints Row 2 certainly picked a tone and then stuck to it come hell or high water. And that tone was of course "ridiculously over the top," and was great. I played the whole game as Jason Statham from Crank.
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I found something hilarious... If you go to Gaptooth Ridge and find the mine shaft at the top of the hill and jump in. John lets out a blood curdling scream as he falls to his doom. The hole is covered up in multiplayer, though.
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Egbert Souse posted:I found something hilarious... You sure it's not another Wilhelm Scream? e: \/\/\/ I found you can get in the bucket when it's at the top, then shoot the handle that lowers it. Saint Sputnik fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Dec 22, 2010 |
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Egbert Souse posted:I found something hilarious... I found something like this a couple of weeks ago, but instead of jumping down the shaft itself I activated the handle of the suspended container and jumped in as it was lowered into the mine. The result was John rolling around and twitching in the bottom of the container like he was having an epileptic fit, screaming incoherently all the way down. Then once it reached the bottom he got up and dusted himself off like nothing had happened. It was awesome.
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