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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
A laser pointer is really handy for installing frame sliders. Line it up on the bolt, install the fairings, drill at the laser pointer mark.

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theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe

Phat_Albert posted:

"Measure a million times, cut once" its the frame slider installers creed.

Or if they're available for your bike, no-cut sliders are a godsend as long as they don't use single bolt mounts for their brackets.

Anyone got any experience using Engine Ice when doing a coolant change? I just did the first change in 10,000 ks on my Daytona. it was running a bit low on coolant and it's getting hotter here so I'm hoping it'll make a bit of a difference

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Figured I'd post this here than start a new thread.

I want to put new boots on the ST1100 as it sleeps over winter.

I use it as a pretty utilitarian bike.. mostly around town/utility but carve up the odd mountain road if I can squeeze it in with some highway riding. What's some decent multi-purpose rubber for it?

110/80-18

160/70-17

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

slidebite posted:

Figured I'd post this here than start a new thread.

I want to put new boots on the ST1100 as it sleeps over winter.

I use it as a pretty utilitarian bike.. mostly around town/utility but carve up the odd mountain road if I can squeeze it in with some highway riding. What's some decent multi-purpose rubber for it?

110/80-18

160/70-17

Motorcycle superstore has pilot roads for 117 up front in 110/80/18 and rear 160/60/17 for 144, those should be pretty well suited for what you're doing.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/2127514916.html

How awful of an idea is it to bring this home and try to bring it back to life as a project if you haven't started riding yet?(msf in the spring :sigh:)

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Russian Bear posted:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/2127514916.html

How awful of an idea is it to bring this home and try to bring it back to life as a project if you haven't started riding yet?(msf in the spring :sigh:)

Edit: maybe not that specific one, who knows what the frame looks like.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Russian Bear posted:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/2127514916.html

How awful of an idea is it to bring this home and try to bring it back to life as a project if you haven't started riding yet?(msf in the spring :sigh:)

Buy it, spend a bunch of time and money fixing it, take msf, find out you hate riding.

Buy a bike in decent condition for your first bike.

AveMachina
Aug 30, 2008

God knows what COVIDs you people have



Oh god, here I am again with that drat Spree.

Is it a good idea to take apart the engine to see if there are any problems? What should a healthy engine look like inside?

Also, how do I take a spark plug out?

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


blugu64 posted:

Buy it, spend a bunch of time and money fixing it, take msf, find out you hate riding.

Buy a bike in decent condition for your first bike.

Gut feeling was telling me bad idea, should listen to that more. I'll wait for msf and keep an eye out on cl.

Primo Itch
Nov 4, 2006
I confessed a horrible secret for this account!

Jr. posted:

Oh god, here I am again with that drat Spree.

Is it a good idea to take apart the engine to see if there are any problems? What should a healthy engine look like inside?

Also, how do I take a spark plug out?

If you don't even know how to take a spark plug out i'd hold on the tearing the engine apart thing for a bit 'til you get more experience, you'll need a few special tools, a gasket set... And most likely won't have the eye to see any problems unless there's some kind of cathastrophic failure. Unless you bought the bike to learn how to wrench. If so, get a service manual and go to town!

What problems are you having this time ?

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!

Jr. posted:

Oh god, here I am again with that drat Spree.

Is it a good idea to take apart the engine to see if there are any problems? What should a healthy engine look like inside?

Also, how do I take a spark plug out?
Wait arent you the madman who builds bike frames with duct tape? Please don't die.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Jr. posted:

Oh god, here I am again with that drat Spree.

Is it a good idea to take apart the engine to see if there are any problems? What should a healthy engine look like inside?

Also, how do I take a spark plug out?

If you dont know how to take a spark plug out, you're basically guaranteed ruin all the seals and gaskets while taking the engine apart, and then you'll REALLY need to rebuild it.

What sort of problems are you expecting to find in there? Spree engines are about as simple as it gets, and things will need to be really messed up inside it for it not to run.

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

chryst posted:

So the gas mileage on the warrior has plummeted. I was getting around 100 miles to the tank, and now it's around 80.

I've been taking it to work once or twice a week just to avoid winterizing. Could the mileage problem be that it's a big air cooled engine driving less than 15 minutes at a time in 25 degree air? I'm guessing it never gets close to operating temp.

Are there other things I should check?

Edit: Filters are recently cleaned K&N, P.O. put an air kit and power commander III on it, but I don't think those will randomly change up their mappings without the 02 sensor module. Also, brand new spark plugs. They look bright white, but aside from being brand new I'm not sure it's possible to get an accurate read without reaching operating temp.

Running in cold weather without getting up to temp will definitely kill your fuel mileage. Since it's gotten colder my bike barely hits the lower line of normal (165 degrees) on the oil temp gauge by the time I make the 10 mile commute to work. I've seen my fuel mileage go from an average of about 140 per tank to as low as 100 if I'm doing nothing but commuting. I too thought something was wrong until taking a few long trips where it got up to temp and the mileage was back to normal.

AveMachina
Aug 30, 2008

God knows what COVIDs you people have



niethan posted:

Wait arent you the madman who builds bike frames with duct tape? Please don't die.

Excuse me, madwoman, and yes I am. I've graduated to better things, ie making my own carbon frame and making panniers. Remember me as a hero!

Phat_Albert posted:

If you dont know how to take a spark plug out, you're basically guaranteed ruin all the seals and gaskets while taking the engine apart, and then you'll REALLY need to rebuild it.

What sort of problems are you expecting to find in there? Spree engines are about as simple as it gets, and things will need to be really messed up inside it for it not to run.

It doesn't seem to get any kind of response from the kickstart is why I'm asking about spark plugs.

Also, I was just curious, as automotive engines tend to always full of sludgey poo poo if you buy them secondhand. I'm trying to cover all my bases.

Primo Itch
Nov 4, 2006
I confessed a horrible secret for this account!

Jr. posted:

Excuse me, madwoman, and yes I am. I've graduated to better things, ie making my own carbon frame and making panniers. Remember me as a hero!


It doesn't seem to get any kind of response from the kickstart is why I'm asking about spark plugs.

Also, I was just curious, as automotive engines tend to always full of sludgey poo poo if you buy them secondhand. I'm trying to cover all my bases.

Take the spark plug out, touch it to the side of the cilinder and kickstart it. The spark plug should make a spark!

To get the plug out, pull the spark cable out and use the apropriate wrench to get it out.


Also

Jr. posted:

ie making my own carbon frame

Carbon Fiber frame ? Elaborate on that, please! I've been experimenting with small carbon fiber pieces recently and an looking into any sutdying material avaliable :)

Primo Itch fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 26, 2010

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Jr. posted:

making my own carbon frame and making panniers.

This sounds a lot like a thread in need of posting.

sw0cb
Feb 18, 2007
How bad is the maintenence on Ducatis? I might have a line on a cheap '07 Gt1000 thats in awesome shape but I have heard horror stories about being raped at the dealer for parts/labor/bikes bursting into flames of passion while being ridden.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


Here's a quote from a recent thread:

quote:

In 2007 (or maybe 08), Ducati dropped service costs by 50% on all new bikes. It was a combination of some increased intervals and set service prices (although of course that's at dealers only).

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

sw0cb posted:

How bad is the maintenence on Ducatis? I might have a line on a cheap '07 Gt1000 thats in awesome shape but I have heard horror stories about being raped at the dealer for parts/labor/bikes bursting into flames of passion while being ridden.

A GT1000 will be fine. It's a 2V engine in a low state of tune. The only thing that will cost extra over a Japanese bike is getting belts changed.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
And the belts were pretty easy to change on the 2Vs, I thought.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Phy posted:

And the belts were pretty easy to change on the 2Vs, I thought.

Depends on the model and how much crap is covering the belt covers. Looks like a non--issue on the GT though.

FuzzyWuzzyBear
Sep 8, 2003

I like how that GT1000 has classical styling and even the old dual rear-shock deal, but then has inverted forks and gently caress-off huge brake rotors. drat.

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

My poo poo tastic vehicular luck (see my whining in the chat thread) seems to be stretching to this week as well.
On the way home from work today I noticed my headlight was kinda dim and my dash lights were as well.
When I got home I checked the battery with a multimeter and found it was at 10.8V no matter how much I revved it so yay, charging system poo poo the bed.

Pulled the melted plug off my R/R and viola, there is the problem. My plug and R/R are both trashed. The regulator even has a nice hole burned into the epoxy on the back so that's that.
I do have a spare from some Honda or another that in addition to having a gigantic heat sink compared to the original it has wires sticking out of it instead of tabs so I can cut off the offending plug and hard wire it in there. The only issue is one extra wire on the new part. I've got three yellow, one red and one black on my bike harness. The new R/R has three yellow, one black, one red and a green. Anyone know where this green is supposed to go? I'm thinking it's maybe an exciter wire that needs to be wired into a key on power but I'm not sure.

FuzzyWuzzyBear
Sep 8, 2003

If you've got an extra green wire there's a 99% chance it's meant to jack into a wire that receives power while the bike is on. The other 1% chance is that it's meant to be a (second?) ground wire.

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

Actually reading into it, the red is positive and the green is negative. The small black is an excitor wire I'm pretty sure. I was forgetting my Japanese color codes for a second.

FuzzyWuzzyBear
Sep 8, 2003

Yep, on my CBR F2 the green wire was the ground wire.

AveMachina
Aug 30, 2008

God knows what COVIDs you people have



Primo Itch posted:

Take the spark plug out, touch it to the side of the cilinder and kickstart it. The spark plug should make a spark!

To get the plug out, pull the spark cable out and use the apropriate wrench to get it out.


Also


Carbon Fiber frame ? Elaborate on that, please! I've been experimenting with small carbon fiber pieces recently and an looking into any sutdying material avaliable :)

Spark plug: I pulled that sumbitch out and it was completely caked in carbon. Looks like it's running too rich.

And regarding the carbon frame thing, I got the ideas here and here. It's in the planning stages. These are my references: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/carbon_fiber.htm
and
http://www.bmeres.com/carbonframe1.htm
plus, google "make carbon fiber frame" for lots more.
I've thrown a guide up on the last few pages of the bike commuter megathread of the tutorial in progress for panniers(http://www.webpages.ttu.edu/adrigale/ffpan1.htm for firefox).
Sorry! I'll not derail any further.

Does anyone have experience re-titling a bike, especially in Texas?

AveMachina fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Dec 28, 2010

sw0cb
Feb 18, 2007

FuzzyWuzzyBear posted:

I like how that GT1000 has classical styling and even the old dual rear-shock deal, but then has inverted forks and gently caress-off huge brake rotors. drat.

Yes. Its pure sex, too bad the loving gas tanks apparently melt if any ethanol touches them. I guess theirs a class action law suit against ducati about it right now, very depressing.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

sw0cb posted:

How bad is the maintenence on Ducatis? I might have a line on a cheap '07 Gt1000 thats in awesome shape but I have heard horror stories about being raped at the dealer for parts/labor/bikes bursting into flames of passion while being ridden.

Just call your local Ducati dealer/independent Duck specialist and ask. Ask them what the intervals are on the bike and what they charge to do each service.

For the 2010 696 and 796 2v engines, both of my "local" Ducati dealers were quoting rates that wouldn't be significantly more than I'd pay for my Hornet. I don't know that they grandfathered in older engines though, hence you should call and ask what Ducati specify for that particular bike.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

sw0cb posted:

Yes. Its pure sex, too bad the loving gas tanks apparently melt if any ethanol touches them. I guess theirs a class action law suit against ducati about it right now, very depressing.

Wait seriously? I thought the only issue with them was the enormous gap between the rear wheel and the subframe

Mr. Eric Praline
Aug 13, 2004
I didn't like the others, they were all too flat.

Phy posted:

Wait seriously? I thought the only issue with them was the enormous gap between the rear wheel and the subframe
I kind of want one just so I can put a cartoonish 36" wheel in there.

I knew about the melting Ducati tank problem, but are they still stocking bikes with them?

Hibajubwa
Oct 30, 2003

KILL ALL HUMANS
I just bought a drz, and its missing the right bar end slider and the insert. The bike has a Renthal Fatbar, and the sliders are from supermotoengineering.com, but neither site makes any mention of the insert piece which the bar end screws into.

Will the Suzuki oem one fit in there? I'm failing at Google today.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Yeah, it should. But I'd probably just pick up some handguards instead of just replacing the bar end slider. I'll have some for sale soon if you want to buy used or new they're about $80-$100 online. I like the Acerbis Rally Pros, they're solid as hell and fit nicely.

Hibajubwa
Oct 30, 2003

KILL ALL HUMANS

Z3n posted:

Yeah, it should. But I'd probably just pick up some handguards instead of just replacing the bar end slider. I'll have some for sale soon if you want to buy used or new they're about $80-$100 online. I like the Acerbis Rally Pros, they're solid as hell and fit nicely.

It came with handguards. :) Its just the right slider/insert are missing, which means I can't mount the right handguard.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

FuzzyWuzzyBear posted:

I like how that GT1000 has classical styling and even the old dual rear-shock deal, but then has inverted forks and gently caress-off huge brake rotors. drat.

Don't forget the unsealed spoke wheels so you've gotta run Pirelli Phantoms!

sw0cb posted:

Yes. Its pure sex, too bad the loving gas tanks apparently melt if any ethanol touches them.

1) That's the 848/1098/1198 and 2) only an issue for you US chumps with that pisswater you call fuel.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Hibajubwa posted:

It came with handguards. :) Its just the right slider/insert are missing, which means I can't mount the right handguard.

Ahh, my mistake. What brand of handguards? Some of them use different sizes of bolts, so I'd pick up a bar insert kit on ebay, usually they're around 20$.

Hibajubwa
Oct 30, 2003

KILL ALL HUMANS

Z3n posted:

Ahh, my mistake. What brand of handguards? Some of them use different sizes of bolts, so I'd pick up a bar insert kit on ebay, usually they're around 20$.

They're Zeta guards, I can't find the model on their site, but they're nice enough. I found the bar end mounts once I figured out the company name (there's just a Z on the guards.) Once those and the sliders get here I'll be ready to go romp even harder (no officer, I didn't just ride a slalom down the center median trees.)

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

JP Money posted:

Motorcycle superstore has pilot roads for 117 up front in 110/80/18 and rear 160/60/17 for 144, those should be pretty well suited for what you're doing.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm in :canada: so the Superstore probably wont work out, but if Pilot Roads are good rubber I'll see if I can get a deal on them.

Thanks. :)

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

slidebite posted:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm in :canada: so the Superstore probably wont work out, but if Pilot Roads are good rubber I'll see if I can get a deal on them.

Thanks. :)

I run pilot powers, and they've been good to me so far for 2500 miles. The rear looks like it will need replaced here in another couple hundred miles or so depending on what the weather is like and how hard I can go push corners / stop riding highway all day long.

From everything I've heard, you can expect ridiculous rear end mileage out of pilot roads. I'm considering getting just the rear next time around and pairing it with a slightly more sporty pilot power up front since the front PP takes forever to wear down.

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MrZig
Aug 13, 2005
I exist onl because of Parias'
LEGENDARY GENEROSITY.

slidebite posted:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm in :canada: so the Superstore probably wont work out, but if Pilot Roads are good rubber I'll see if I can get a deal on them.

Thanks. :)

http://www.petes-superbike.com/

The only way to go for Canadians. Seriously cheap.

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