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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Many thanks to kimbo305 for pointing me to the correct thread.

To repeat what I said in my thread,

Rhyno posted:

So my Jeep's been less than reliable lately and the Escort I bought as a backup car just isn't going to last. So it's time to get a new car and for once I actually have a little money to throw at it (or I will). I'd had my heart set on a Dodge Magnum R/T AWD based on the looks, power and utility but I keep hearing about reliability problems and the horrible mileage they get so I'm trying to expand my horizons. Enter the Mazdaspeed 6.

The MS3 and Miata are very popular in AI but I don't recall seeing anyone post about owning an MS6 so if someone here has one I'd love to here about your owning experience.

I've read pretty much every review I could track down and scoured quite a few Mazda forums (they're all horrible) and what I've found sounds pretty good to me but again, I'd like some AI input before I pull the trigger on one. Should I buy one it will be a DD from early spring until winter and garaged during he worst winter months.

I'm not immediately planning on this purchase, I'm thinking late April to mid May for this.

I just sat and read this entire thread so I'm pretty caught up on possible problems and modifications. Anything new I should be aware of with these cars?

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IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





They drive kinda like diesels (not much turbo lag, then HOLY poo poo POWER, then running out of breath around 5500-6000RPM) and should be putting a shiteating grin on your face the entire time.

You probably saw it a few times, but there's the smoking turbo issue; it's rare but it does happen. Mazda was supposedly going to put out an updated PCV system but nobody has seen any updates on that in ages; the official TSB is to switch to 5w40 or 10w40, and only replace / rebuild the turbo if that doesn't solve the issue.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Does anyone know what the real market value is for 09 MS3 GTs? I've found one for sale locally with only ~12,000 miles, but the guy's asking $19.9k and I recall people were paying between $19-20k for a new model in 2008. NADA trade-in tells me it's worth $18.6k, and KBB says the private party value for excellent condition is $20k, but that doesn't mesh well with what I've read.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I don't know about anyone paying that little for a new one - in April '09, I bought my '07 with 24k miles for $18k out the door (including tax, tags, etc).

SynMoo
Dec 4, 2006

My Gen2 Snow Bitch



General Altimax Arctics on Gen1 17" Snowflakes

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ChiliMac
Apr 13, 2005

That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.

Bovine Delight posted:

If you have any questions on the insurance side let me know. Sorry to hear about it.

So the only question I have is that GEICO (the insured's company) will take care of everything if I go to one of their shops (i.e. estimate, fix, give me a rental)--is there anything I should be wary of on that front? I can also get it fixed elsewhere but would have to let their adjuster estimate, go somewhere else for a rental, etc. Should I get an estimate from a 3rd party shop for any reason?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Okay, now I'm totally sold on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v0qYy6CMlg

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



ChiliMac posted:

So the only question I have is that GEICO (the insured's company) will take care of everything if I go to one of their shops (i.e. estimate, fix, give me a rental)--is there anything I should be wary of on that front? I can also get it fixed elsewhere but would have to let their adjuster estimate, go somewhere else for a rental, etc. Should I get an estimate from a 3rd party shop for any reason?

You can take it to any shop, thats your legal right. I wouldn't worry about the rental, you can go through Enterprise and they can pick you up at whatever shop when you drop off the car. You wouldn't need to get an estimate from a third party shop because since they are paying the damage they'll work off their estimate.

If you do go through one of their shops I'm sure they warranty the work they do for as long as you own the car.

Make sure that if they are replacing the bumper cover (rather than repairing it) that you get an OEM part, be it used or new. Aftermarket stuff usually fits poorly.

ChiliMac
Apr 13, 2005

That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.

Bovine Delight posted:

You can take it to any shop, thats your legal right.

Well no the real question was should I be concerned with just letting GEICO handle it (i.e. provide me with a rental, fix my car, etc.) even though they represent the insured.

ChiliMac fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jan 14, 2011

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Well, it's the shop thats fixing it, so take it to a legit shop. Find the local shop that the BMW/Benz/etc dealers use.

Battle Cattle
Aug 13, 2003

MOO.

ChiliMac posted:

Well no the real question was should I be concerned with just letting GEICO handle it (i.e. provide me with a rental, fix my car, etc.) even though they represent the insured.
GEICO was the insurer for the guy that damaged my car, everything about the process went very smoothly, I went to a reputable shop where a rental car was waiting for me, I was very happy. When the accident is the fault of their insured, they bend over backwards to make sure you're satisfied.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Has been rainy here in Austin for the last week or so. There is a nice big parking lot near work that is completely flat and without any concrete medians or anything. The Speed3 is great at reverse donuts. That is all.

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

I ran over a barely visible bollard today and busted my front left tyre and possibly my suspension. I could replace all the tyres but I am considering buying some new wheels and keeping the 18 inch stock ones aside for when I sell in the future.

I was thinking about some nice sporty 17 inch wheels, are tyres harder to find for wheels this size? What looks good and is also light? I don't even know where to start...

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
It shouldn't be too hard. Go to an online tire site for your country and look up tires for a Touring or Grand Touring 3, or whichever trim came with 17" wheels in your country.

ChiliMac
Apr 13, 2005

That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.
Well I can't speak for the results as I haven't seen them yet, but I was overly anal (i.e. car guy) when talking to the adjuster fixing my car and I found out [later] that they have to replace the bumper cover anyhow. I just hope they paint it well and matching :ohdear:

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Seriously giving thoughts to selling the Speed3 and getting a Golf TDI. My commute is just so long. :(

ChiliMac
Apr 13, 2005

That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.

Bovine Delight posted:

Seriously giving thoughts to selling the Speed3 and getting a Golf TDI. My commute is just so long. :(

Wherever he falls, there shall he be buried.

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Thoughts on Superturismo GT 17" on the MPS3? Would it look silly being an inch smaller? I am torn. They don't seem to be available in 18" and 17" is probably better anyway from a performance perspective...

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Well, I'm going to buy/pick up a black 2009 Speed3 GT from a local guy that I asked about several days ago.

Do any of you guys have an oil catch can installed in your cars? I'm concerned about the accumulation of oil/carbon buildup in the intake that I've read about with the VW/Audi owners (and other people with DI engines). And if a catch can will extend the life and reduce maintenance on my car I'm all for installing one.

After reading a few threads on the Mazda specific forums I'm having trouble deciding on if it solves a problem or somehow is actually creating a problem. That is, if you read these threads the people who install them will say that they have to empty the cans once a week or once a month. This is what they claim to have emptied from the cans:

Click here for the full 800x600 image.

Mazda3forums.com install thread

Mazda247 forum install thread

So, here's my question. Does the catch can somehow create an environment (more vacuum, something else), where more condensation and oil accumulate in the can than would normally recirculate through the PCV? Also, if you own one of these, how often would one expect to have to empty/drain one of these if the car is just being used as a primary vehicle? One week to a month seems pretty often to me. I don't see this happening very soon, but say you're on a long road trip. Am I going to have to stop at every other gas station to drain my catch can?

Another note: the people on these forums claim that the yellow fluid that they drained is gasoline, but that's absurd. There's no reason fuel should be accumulating in the crank case, correct?

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Can't believe I just now heard about this TSB. I never actually worried about it, but I'm close to 50k miles now and glad I heard about it before I hit 60!
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f11/smoke-idle-tsb-new-turbo-required-tsb-01-004-10-dated-08-18-2010-a-65810/

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Boo to Mazda for taking so long to finally put a proper fix in place, but I think this is overblown like the #4 main bearing on '99 Miatas. Yes, it happens more than it should (ie ever), but not every car is a ticking timebomb.

I've got 73k on my '07 and no sign of this at all. If it ever does happen, it will suck and I may see if the dealer is willing to reduce the cost at all, but if not...rebuilt turbos really aren't that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

MetaJew posted:

Well, I'm going to buy/pick up a black 2009 Speed3 GT from a local guy that I asked about several days ago.

Do any of you guys have an oil catch can installed in your cars? I'm concerned about the accumulation of oil/carbon buildup in the intake that I've read about with the VW/Audi owners (and other people with DI engines). And if a catch can will extend the life and reduce maintenance on my car I'm all for installing one.
This is unrelated, and may not even concern you at all, but here we reportedly have a problem with air-oil separators (as well as the stock PCV) freezing solid at extremely cold temperatures and causing an oil starvation issue.

It's something you may want to look out for if you regularly drive the car in very cold weather, though I've never seen it myself and think the problem may be overblown.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Oh god what have I done?
2009 Speed3 GT with 12k miles

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Sublime Process
Jun 2, 2006
I ran. I ran until my muscles burned and my veins pumped battery acid. Then I ran some more.
Put on Cobb's turbo inlet yesterday. Getting the stock piece off is a pain in the rear end. I'm overly careful though, so YMMV. Expect a few cuts though.

One question though - after taking the stock inlet off, there was a silicone boot on the turbo where it was clamped. There were no instructions on leaving it on/off so I took it off for the Cobb piece. Please tell me that's right. :ohdear:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





MetaJew posted:

Oh god what have I done?
2009 Speed3 GT with 12k miles

Click here for the full 1024x768 image.


YOU BOUGHT THE WRONG COLOR YOU FOOL

Aside from that horrible mistake (the correct answer is red, though if they had made the MS3 in that yellow you rarely see on a standard 3, it would be acceptable as well), enjoy the torque steer. I'm closing in on two years in mine and loving every minute of it.

It's not the light, tossable car the Miata is, but actually having power makes up for it. The fact that it's also so goddamn practical is icing on the cake for me.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Black and red are both acceptable you numpty. That hideous blue is not. (note: cannot see the pic due to waffleimages sucking)

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

The most acceptable colour is white -

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Bovine Delight posted:

Black and red are both acceptable you numpty. That hideous blue is not. (note: cannot see the pic due to waffleimages sucking)

Lilbeefer posted:

The most acceptable colour is white -


I wanted an 08.5-09 GT in Crystal White, but this was by far the best condition 09 I found. Not to mention the owner took excellent care of it.

I'll take more photos in the day time when I can have better lighting. The pic I posted was grainy and not that great even with a tripod. At the time I was helping to install an oil temp and boost gauge in a 08 STi. In the light the black mica has a gold sparkle to it and looks amazing, and at a certain angle you might also think that it's the metro gray color.

Sublime Process
Jun 2, 2006
I ran. I ran until my muscles burned and my veins pumped battery acid. Then I ran some more.

MetaJew posted:

and at a certain angle you might also think that it's the metro gray color.

Honestly I thought it was metro gray.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Froze my rear end off replacing my passenger side headlight bulb today. I hate taking the bumper off but at least I'm getting good at it.

Turns out now that my headlights are hilariously mismatched in color - the new one is practically warm compared to the original one on the driver's side at a very cool blue. Time to order another and replace that one when it warms up a bit.

SynMoo
Dec 4, 2006

IOwnCalculus posted:

Froze my rear end off replacing my passenger side headlight bulb today. I hate taking the bumper off but at least I'm getting good at it.

Turns out now that my headlights are hilariously mismatched in color - the new one is practically warm compared to the original one on the driver's side at a very cool blue. Time to order another and replace that one when it warms up a bit.

I meant to ask you how this went. I forgot to mention that HID bulbs change color over time and you might want to order both. My bad!

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





No worries, I'd been reading a bit on it myself but I didn't expect the difference to be that bad, and I didn't want to replace another $42 bulb if I didn't have to right away.

I do think I finally managed to secure the upper bumper skin screws in such a way that they'll stop popping out (the tabs in the bumper were broken by the PO). I don't know how all of you people living in climates with snow and poo poo do it, it was maybe 33* and dry and I was hating life. My hands are still a bit sore from being so cold for so long.

IOwnCalculus fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Feb 4, 2011

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





To add a datapoint to the discussion that popped up in the Stupid Questions thread here, I just got back from a trip between Los Angeles and Phoenix. On the way back, I had the info display on CONSUM CUR the whole time, and had cruise set almost the entire time.

Best example I got was a long uphill climb on eastbound I10 immediately east of Indio, CA - over the course of 10 miles you climb from sea level to 1600'. Not the steepest grade in the world, but enough of a pull that Caltrans has a sign at the base saying "AVOID OVERHEATING TURN OFF A/C FOR NEXT 10 MILES".

Of course, I never turn off the A/C, and I set cruise to 80 in sixth. Fuel economy never dropped below 14.0 while in cruise; when I dropped to fifth at one point and stood on it to get around a slow truck, it showed my typical WOT of somewhere between 4-8 MPG.

Cruise simply will not hit WOT on this car. Any steeper of a grade than that, you'd probably want to be out of cruise and down a gear anyway just to maintain better control.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

IOwnCalculus posted:

To add a datapoint to the discussion that popped up in the Stupid Questions thread here, I just got back from a trip between Los Angeles and Phoenix. On the way back, I had the info display on CONSUM CUR the whole time, and had cruise set almost the entire time.

Best example I got was a long uphill climb on eastbound I10 immediately east of Indio, CA - over the course of 10 miles you climb from sea level to 1600'. Not the steepest grade in the world, but enough of a pull that Caltrans has a sign at the base saying "AVOID OVERHEATING TURN OFF A/C FOR NEXT 10 MILES".

Of course, I never turn off the A/C, and I set cruise to 80 in sixth. Fuel economy never dropped below 14.0 while in cruise; when I dropped to fifth at one point and stood on it to get around a slow truck, it showed my typical WOT of somewhere between 4-8 MPG.

Cruise simply will not hit WOT on this car. Any steeper of a grade than that, you'd probably want to be out of cruise and down a gear anyway just to maintain better control.

I've seen people say a similar thing on NASIOC and IWSTI. They claim that accelerating in sixth gear will put you in full boost at a low engine speed and could lead to similarly awful results.

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

Bovine Delight posted:

Black and red are both acceptable you numpty. That hideous blue is not. (note: cannot see the pic due to waffleimages sucking)

Everyone knows metro gray is the best. I love how it changes color depending on the light.





air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Cosmic Blue can sorta do that too. My car totally looks like Metro Gray if early morning daylight hits it.

Battle Cattle
Aug 13, 2003

MOO.
New RE760s. Again. Maybe this time they'll last longer than 11,000 miles?

Also, yay! Black smoke at WOT again, I'm going to get the oil changed this week. The PCV was replaced a few months ago, is my turbo eating itself or what?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Black is usually rich mixture, not oil.

I'm really liking the Ecsta LE Sports. Not quite as grippy as the RS2s but soooo much quieter. Basically, like the RE050 at half price.

Sublime Process
Jun 2, 2006
I ran. I ran until my muscles burned and my veins pumped battery acid. Then I ran some more.

opengl128 posted:

Everyone knows metro gray is the best. I love how it changes color depending on the light.

Hey MGM buddy. :):hf::)

Don't have any pics of mine to share cause my drive crashed.. but its not like you don't know what the car looks like. Just add tint and *bam* - my car.

Edit: I have Hankook Ventus V12s on after my RE050s made it 29k. Almost have 5k miles on them and they've been through rain, ice, snow and dry. Very stable and predictable in my eyes. I like 'em quite a bit. :)

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opengl
Sep 16, 2010

I've got winter tires/wheels so I'm at 23K without around 25% left on my stock RE050's. Trying to decide what to replace them with when the times comes, probably sometime this summer or fall. You can go up in width one size on the stock wheels right? Seems like a much bigger selection than in the stock size.

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