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Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Seems like Tripoli has now joined the fun:

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Reuters is reporting that a government building in Tripoli is on fire.
"I can see the People's Hall is on fire, there are firefighters there trying to put it out," a Reuters reporter said. The building is where the General People's Congress, or parliament, meets when it is in session in Tripoli. There were reports that protesters ransacked the state-run TV station in the capital last night, although it is broadcasting today.

Anyone know which hash tags are being used for Libya?

# ? Feb 21, 2011 11:03

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# ? May 21, 2024 21:56

Xandu: Feb 19, 2006; It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.

#Libya #Feb14 #Benghazi #Tripoli

# ? Feb 21, 2011 11:05

brylcreem: Oct 29, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

^^^ e: beaten

Reuters is reporting that several government buildings in Tripoli is on fire.

Guardian live blog:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/21/arab-and-middle-east-protests-middleeast

# ? Feb 21, 2011 11:06

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

AJE is reporting a certain degree of chaos in Tripoli:

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Reports from news agencies, Twitter and witnesses speaking directly to Al Jazeera are painting a picture of semi-chaos overnight in Tripoli. It appears that some protesters from nearby towns converged on the city, and thousands from the capital itself turned out as well. They were allowed to march to the central Green or Martyrs' Square, which they occupied briefly before being confronted by security forces and pro-Gaddafi protesters, who came out in force after a late-night speech by Saif al-Gaddafi, the leader's son.

During the night, protesters have broken into and burned a number of government buildings, reportedly including: State television; the main courthouse; a large, centrally located bank; an intelligence agency building; at least two police stations - one in Souq Jamaa and one in Zawadahmany.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 11:28

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

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My name is Rahma, I am located in Tripoli right now, I am heading out to Fashloom area, they have heard that Fashloom is beginning to protest that � and other suburbs are sort of rioting and protesting anti-government, and because of these riots the cops as we speak are shooting live ammunition and grenades at them. I don't know � Beaten hard right now but Fashloom, Gergaresh and Zawiya street. These are streets, locations, suburbs, areas in Tripoli.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 11:40

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

BP is pulling out some of its workers:

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BP has confirmed it is withdrawing employees from Libya and suspended preparations for exploratory drilling for oil and gas.

"We'll be bringing some families and some dependents out of Libya and some non-essential staff," a spokesman said, adding that the company would bring staff home over the next two days.

BP does not produce any oil or gas in Libya but had been preparing an onshore rig to start drilling in the west of the country.

The spokesman said BP employs around 140 people in Libya, but only "around 40" of those were British. The spokesman could not confirm how many of the 40 would be brought back to the UK.

Most of the staff in the country are engaged in exploration work, mapping underground rock formations in a bid to identify suitable drilling sites.

There's also rumours that Libyan oil workers are striking.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 11:56

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

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In Egypt, the April 6 Youth Movement is calling for a day of protests in Tahrir Square, Cairo, tomorrow, which it is referring to as "the day of challenge". The group lists its demands:

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� Acquitting [sic] the current government.

� Abolition of the emergency law.

� The release of all detainees.

� The formation of a presidential council, including civilians, and fair judges.

� Retribution of [sic] all the media figures that have contributed in killing our martyrs.

� Acquitting [sic] the state security apparatus and restructuring of the ministry of interior as well as all of the NDP headquarters.

� Forming a new technocratic government.

� Aquitting [sic] the government led by Ahmed Shafik, which includes the foul faces that have a history of corruption such as Mufid Shehab, Aisha Abdel Hadi, Faiza Abu Naga, Sameh Fahmi, Ali Meselhi, Mahmoud Wagdy to be dismissed and Mhakthm and the formation of a new technocratic government.

Technocratic government: is a specialised government which doesn't belong to any party; this government is used in the case of political differences.

Our revolution and struggle will continue until we achieve all our demands.

The revolution is not finished yet ...

The group also calls for a sit-in in Tahrir Square on Friday.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:10

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Tripoli news:

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Moaad Taufik writes: "My uncle just called me from the Zawyiat Aldahmani district, central Tripoli. He went out to protest, with everybody else in tandem protesting peacefully against the regime. There is live gun fire echoing around the capital - and at this rate Tripoli will be free tonight. However, pro-Gaddafi agencies are handing out FREE meat, fish and nuts to all of those who join the pro-Gaddafi protests."

David Cameron has just arrived in Egypt as well.

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Feb 21, 2011

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:24

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

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However, pro-Gaddafi agencies are handing out FREE meat, fish and nuts to all of those who join the pro-Gaddafi protests."

That is incredibly sad and pathetic.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:31

JesusSinfulHands: Oct 24, 2007; Sartre and Russell are my heroes

poo poo is getting real folks. I thought Gaddafi was going to be the Nicolae Ceausescu of the Middle East, but it looks like we overestimated his hold over Libya:

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BBC: Gaddafi left to an unknown destination and a senior officer moves to declare a coup

http://twitter.com/#!/TrellaLB/status/39646366561087488

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:37

The Brown Menace: Dec 24, 2010; Now comes in all colors.

Ok, taking bets now.

$5 says he left for Venezuela.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:45

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

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The folks at Alive in Libya have posted another audio clip of a phone call from Tripoli overnight on Sunday. It confirms what we've been hearing: Protesters have burned, looted and destroyed a number of government buildings in the Libyan capital, including several police stations and "revolutionary committee" headquarters.

"Every so often we get news that an area has fallen in the hands of the protesters," the man said.

After protesters briefly took the capital's central square, they were confronted by by cars and land cruisers whose passengers opened fire "like it was a war".

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:46

BIG HORNY COW: Apr 11, 2003

The Brown Menace posted:

Ok, taking bets now.

$5 says he left for Venezuela.

Does Chavez really have the troll chops to grant Quadaffi asylum? (yeah, probably)

It really seems like the government will be overthrown within 24 - 48 hours at this rate. And here I was thinking it would take until the end of the week.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 12:58

MJB: Nov 22, 2003; "...by any means necessary."

The Brown Menace posted:

Ok, taking bets now.

$5 says he left for Venezuela.

I hope he has, if only for the hilarious public appearances he and Chavez might make together. If they would call it The Real Autocrats of Caracas they could make it a series.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 13:02

Suntory BOSS: Apr 17, 2006

MJB posted:

I hope he has, if only for the hilarious public appearances he and Chavez might make together. If they would call it The Real Autocrats of Caracas they could make it a series.

Credit where due, Qaddafi was the most fashionable murderous dictator in modern history. A veritable Kanye of Kleptocracy, if you will.

Shine on you crazy diamond... shine on.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 13:27

Gravy Jones: Sep 13, 2003; I am not on your side

JesusSinfulHands posted:

poo poo is getting real folks. I thought Gaddafi was going to be the Nicolae Ceausescu of the Middle East, but it looks like we overestimated his hold over Libya:

http://twitter.com/#!/TrellaLB/status/39646366561087488

He's not quoting the BBC. He's quoting someone claiming to be quoting the BBC. Considering he posted this an hour ago and the BBC updated their lead Libya article five minutes ago and didn't mention this significant development I'm guessing this hasn't happened.

Which is a drat shame. It's heart-wrenching and sickening how many people have died/are going to die there because of that delusional megalomaniac and the power structure that surounds him.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Feb 21, 2011

# ? Feb 21, 2011 13:58

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Update from the Guardian on Tripoli:

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A young lady in Tripoli sends the following. She says the Libyan people are "united" against Muammar Gaddafi. "This is the beginning for some and the end for others. Let's just pray that this can be done with the least deaths possible."

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Just wanted to let you know what's going down here in T-town [Tripoli] as of late. Things are beginning to heat up and the people are slowly waking up and reacting to the violence of the past couple of days.

Last night from around 9pm onwards people started barricading and patrolling their neighbourhoods. In the beginning all we could hear were fireworks and chants from both pro-regime and anti-regime groups. But the confusion is such that sometimes we couldn't tell them apart. At the end of the night I can almost guarantee that most of the (paid) pro-regime chanters here either decided to hide and switch sides or were beaten up by the protesters.

As the night progressed the rumours of anti-regime uprisings in the Green Square increased. People took his son's speech, which basically made us sound like a bunch of crack-sniffing criminals, as an insult. It was around that time when the sound of live ammunition began. This lasted well into the early morning. We don�t [know] much about how many people were shot, who was actually shooting etc etc. This is part of the problem. All information here is from word of mouth. Were hearing talks of there being a massacre of unprecedented scale; we're not sure if they mean in numbers or in indiscriminate shooting. Talks of various government buildings being burnt down. Mercenaries shooting right and left.

So that's the status quo of things here. Its currently 11am in the morning and things have calmed down. Quiet before the storm.

The general sentiment here is a mixed one. One of hope, fear and excitement. Fear not of being hurt or shot but of the unknown. Hope for change. Excitement for what's to come. There is a complete blackout of information. Nothing official, nothing confirmed. Who's winning, how many are dead. Who's still here? Who�s left running with their tail
between their legs. The only source of information that we have is that between each other.

I'm disgusted by the leaders of the international community and how they're being silent about this. Hillary Clinton yesterday directed a whole speech about Bahrain. Why didn't she mention Libya? Or are we only worth mentioning when it has to do with oil and terrorism? They need to speak out now. They need to stop releasing petty statements
and actually take a STAND. We know that they have no real leverage but having the international community's eyes on us is the only this can actually get noticed.

I have to end this quickly as I'm not sure how long this connection is going to last. Just let everybody know that the Libyan people are out in the streets and they're united, despite last night's statement that we are not. The people are going out now. They will go out later on tonight. Nothing can stop what's starting now. This is the beginning for some and the end for others. Let's just pray that this can be done with the least deaths possible.

This was also posted on the Guardian:

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There were rumours overnight that Muammar Gaddafi had fled Tripoli. The BBC is now reporting this, saying it has independently confirmed from "sources" that he has left the Libyan capital. We have not been able to confirm this independently.

This to:

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Salem Gnan, a London-based spokesman for the National Front for the Salvation of Libya, says he has spoken to protesters in Tripoli and Benghazi today.

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They surrounded Gaddafi's residence in Tripoli this morning and tried to get in but there was very heavy fire from inside the compound and many people were killed; the person I spoke to told me 80 people have died there.

Gnan said there had been "many thousands" of anti-regime protesters on the capital's street before Libya's security forces opened fire earlier this morning.

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The protesters ran away and have dispersed now; they are hiding because of the fire but they will be back because they do not have anything to lose now. Tripoli was the last place for Gaddafi and now it will decide what happens. I expect there will be a lot of bloodshed and a lot of people killed because this is the last chance for both sides. But [the protesters] are going to finish this.

Gnan said he had also spoken to demonstrators in the eastern city of Benghazi.

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They are being bombed by helicopter gunships and jet aeroplanes because Gaddafi wants to punish the place where this started ... They were screaming, saying "please help us, help us" because a lot of people are being killed in the bombings. It is a very terrible situation.

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Feb 21, 2011

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Lasagna: Jun 20, 2001

Frankly I am surprised about how fast Gheddafi power is crumbling.
I am Italian and have been in Lybia last October. I saw a pretty stable dictactoship. People were complaining, but compared to other overcrowded arab nations, Lybians have a better standard of living. State is rich thanks to oil and gas, and nobody is starving. Italian government , due to the huge interests Italy has there (billions of euros in oil, gas and industries) is shamelessly avoiding any comment on this revolution, probably hoping Gheddafi will manage to fix this mess.
Meanwhile in Italy, Berlusconi (who always has been proud of his close friendship with Gheddafi) has just said he didn't call him cause "he's busy I dont want to bother him", and foreign minister Frattini stated that "EU shouldn't interfere with these protests, cause EU shouldn't export democracy". Maybe he forgot Italian troops are in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:08

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Also this:

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Ian Black and Matthew Taylor have filed this news story on events in Libya.

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Protesters in Libya's capital are reported to have set fire to government buildings and attacked the headquarters of state television as the anti-Gaddafi demonstrations that began in the east of the country threaten to engulf the regime.

Hundreds of demonstrators took to the streets overnight clashing with police and shouting anti-Gaddafi slogans as tribal leaders demanded an end to the violent government crackdown. There were also reports that some soldiers in the east had defected to the opposition, in a revolt that has killed more than 230 people.

Witnesses said that the brutal crackdown, that began in the country's second city of Benghazi, has spread to the capital overnight with reports of automatic gunfire and teargas in Tripoli for the first time since the unrest began.

The government building where the general people's congress, or parliament, meets was reported to be on fire and there were separate reports that protesters had attacked the headquarters of the state television network.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:08

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

And this from the BBC:

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One opposition activist has told the BBC the headquarters of the ruling party in Tripoli were under opposition control.

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The situation in Libya is becoming increasingly confused and chaotic, says the BBC's Jon Leyne in Cairo. There are several reports Col Gaddafi has now left Tripoli, possibly to his hometown of Sirt or to his desert base of Sabha.

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Our correspondent adds: "Hour by hour there are reports of more defections. Almost all major tribal leaders seem to have joined the opposition, as well as important religious leaders, and several senior Libyan ambassadors. The east of the country is already almost entirely out of the hands of the government."

Live blogs:
Guardian
BBC
AJE

Gaddafi is hosed

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:10

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Meanwhile in the arab internet and news channels:

-- Not many people are absolutely made up in their minds about bahrain due to the sectarian taint on the protests there.

-- Everyone wants Qaddafi to stay in libya so they can see him get killed on live TV.

-- Yusuf al Qaradawi has called on libyans to finish off Qaddafi.

-- Interviews on the ground confirm: After what Qaddafi Did, Libyans want his blood.

-- Protests and burnings of government buildings are spreading across Libya.

-- poo poo is getting real in Libya, with some special forces siding with the protestors and entire army barracks along with their guns and ammunition have been taken by the protesters, there has even been news that several ammunition stores have been bombed from the sky to make sure they dont reach protestors hands.

Man his son is a complete monster, if he can get a Phd from LSE then surely my chances of going to graduate school there has heightened considerably, probably not though.

Also, after Qaddafi is done swinging by lamppost I hope the only thing the Libyans don't change are the female bodyguards, if there's one thing this world needs more of it's elite female warriors who dress snazzy, but something deep down tells me (judging by how they look and behave even in a formal setting) is that they might have been put to more nefarious uses than actually being trained as bodyguards because honestly their builds don't make me think they've been put through rigorous (or continuous)military training,

or is all that fat pure muscle?

*edit* I just noticed that Qaddafi is wearing an extremely famous picture: the picture of the famous libyan hero Omar al mukhtar with his italian captors.

gently caress you Qaddafi.

gently caress. YOU.

That son of a bitch has no right to pretend like he's even 0.0001% the man and the hero like Omar Mukhtar was, and also, the fact that he's using that as some sort of cheap fashion statement to Berlusconi makes it even more disgusting.

I recommend everyone in this thread watch 'Lion of The desert' with Anthony Quinn and Oliver Reed, a true classic.

Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Feb 21, 2011

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:27

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Thanks for that info, interesting to hear stuff from that perspective.

Seems like Libya's oil supplies are in trouble as well, watch Europe poo poo a brick:

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Libya's Quryna newspaper is reporting that anti-government protests have broken out in the town of Ras Lanuf - the site of a major oil refinery.

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Italian energy giant ENI, the biggest foreign oil producer in Libya, has announced it is evacuating all non-essential staff from the country, AFP reports.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:33

The Brown Menace: Dec 24, 2010; Now comes in all colors.

Al-Saqr posted:

Man his son is a complete monster, if he can get a Phd from LSE then surely my chances of going to graduate school there has heightened considerably, probably not though.

Depends. Is your dad a wealthy dictator who the west tries to keep on friendly terms?

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:34

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Even the LSE are getting a bit nervous with their relationship with Gaddafi:

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The London School of Economics says it is reconsidering its links with the Libyan government "as a matter of urgency". Saif al-Islam Gaddafi received a PhD from the LSE in 2009 and also gave the university's Global Governance Research Unit a grant of �1.5m in the same year.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:39

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

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Police have fled the city of Zawiyah, west of the capital, and it has has since sunk into chaos, witnesses who have fled to neighbouring Tunisia are quoted as telling AFP.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 14:55

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Another resignation in Libya:

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Libya's privately-owned Quryna newspaper is reporting that the Libyan justice minister, Mustafa Mohamed Abud Al Jeleil, hjas resigned over "the excessive use of violence against government protesters", according to Reuters.

The newspaper said on its website it had spoken to the minister by telephone. There was no immediate official confirmation of the resignation, Reuters said.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 15:33

Mr Plow: Dec 31, 2004

Unconfirmed reports:

-Ambulances, loaded ships, and other forms of medical aid being sent to Libya by Egypt, Tunisia and Turkey

-Helicopters being used by the regime in Tripoli

-Soldiers "burnt alive in barracks" for refusing to remain loyal to the regime with video evidence of the bodies being discovered: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=164752430243044

# ? Feb 21, 2011 15:45

Young Freud: Nov 26, 2006

If Mohamed Bouazizi doesn't become Time's Man of the Year for 2011, then that whole publication isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 15:55

hamza: Mar 3, 2007

Young Freud posted:

If Mohamed Bouazizi doesn't become Time's Man of the Year for 2011, then that whole publication isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

We already know it's not -- why do people care about this worthless contest?

# ? Feb 21, 2011 15:57

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

Young Freud posted:

If Mohamed Bouazizi doesn't become Time's Man of the Year for 2011, then that whole publication isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Prediction: it will be Facebook/Twitter (as a corporate person)

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:03

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

I'd be amazed if Gaddafi lasts the week the rate things are going. Even if he does he'll be hated by most of the country, and his reputation in the international community will be worthless.

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Here is a summary of key events so far:

� Egypt: As David Cameron arrived for a hastily-arranged visit, democracy activists have been telling western diplomats they want continued outside pressure to ensure there is a swift transition from military to civilian following the removal of Hosni Mubarak. According to Egyptian state TV, prosecutors have asked for international help in freezing the Mubarak family's financial assets, believed to be extensive.

� Morocco: Sunday's "day of dignity" protests in Morocco turned out to be both more numerous and more violent than it initially seemed, with some violence continuing on Monday in the city of Fes. At least five people died during demonstrations in more than 50 towns and cities. Organisers said the protests were hijacked by thugs in some towns, especially by football fans leaving matches. The interior ministry said 37,000 people had taken part.

� Bahrain: Hundreds of protesters remained camped at Pearl roundabout, the centre of a campaign for sweeping reforms in the tiny Gulf monarchy. Their numbers swelled into the thousands over the course of Monday. One grouping, calling itself "Youth of 14 February", issued a manifesto demanding the overthrow of the ruling royal family.

� Yemen: A crowd reportedly in the tens of thousands rallied in the city of Taiz to demand the removal of the country's long-serving president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, while several hundred protesters are camping on a square near the centre of the capital, Sana'a. The president has offered to talk with opponents, a move dismissed by the political opposition as a meaningless sop.

� Sudan: Officials from Omar Hassan al-Bashir's ruling party said the president, who took power in a coup in 1989, would not stand at the next election, due four years from now. Opposition groups said the decision was an attempt to try to head off a popular uprising against his rule.

� Tunisia: The country's interim government appointed a veteran diplomat, Mouldi Kefi � who served under the ousted president, Zine El Abidine Ben Ali � as foreign minister. He replaces Ahmed Ounaies, removed after perceived verbal gaffes on a visit to France. The interim government has, meanwhile, asked Saudi Arabia for news of the exiled Ben Ali's health, not least "the possibility of his death".

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:07

Dabadu: Feb 4, 2011

Young Freud posted:

If Mohamed Bouazizi doesn't become Time's Man of the Year for 2011, then that whole publication isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Also, marblecake.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:20

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

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Tim Niblock, an expert on Libya at Exeter University, says it is fairly clear that Col Gaddafi has lost control over the main part of the military in eastern Libya: "There are brigades under two of his sons who are still apparently active a bit, but those are probably marginal by now," he tells the BBC World Service's Newshour programme. "Two key figures are supporting the rebellion and have done, especially one of them, from a very early stage. They feel that the regime has corrupted itself."

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:25

The Brown Menace: Dec 24, 2010; Now comes in all colors.

Petey posted:

Prediction: it will be Facebook/Twitter (as a corporate person)

It's this. This is the Time Person of the Year.

You know, it's funny. The west hasn't really had any people making waves in a good way lately, and you can't make some dastardly brown Person of the Year, I'm curious as to what bullshit-tastic concepts and non-people will be the cop-out stand-ins (like "You." was in 2006 instead of Ahmadinejad) in the future.

Time Person of the Year 2012: Freedom?

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:28

RedneckwithGuns: Mar 28, 2007; Up Next:
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The Brown Menace posted:

Time Person of the Year 2012: Freedom?

Go all 19th century and say the Person of the Year is Columbia. :patriot:

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:32

frumpykvetchbot: Feb 20, 2004; PROGRESSIVE SCAN; Upset Trowel

There is a real momentum to all this lovely upheaval and it's not letting up. What a spectacle! I'm basically hoping some of these shifts will last long enough for the people to enjoy their autonomy before western influences insidiously pushes things back to where they were. In any case I think it will be a while before we see quite so overtly propped-up western-backed autocrats in that region.

In related news:

Berlusconi stole a Danish trainset and gave it to Gaddafi.

The interior's pretty fabulous, though.

So Libyans, when you're all done with your revolution thing, and assuming Gaddafi isn't using it anymore, can we please have the train back? It's about a decade overdue from the Italian factory and we kind of need it up here. Thanks!!!

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:33

Cartouche: Jan 4, 2011

Suntory BOSS posted:

Shine on you crazy diamond... shine on.

Shine on, you zombie dictator. :zombie:

Seriously, is Gaddafi even amongst the living?

'We will fight to the last minute, until the last bullet' :pervert:

Cartouche fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Feb 21, 2011

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:34

Ham: Apr 30, 2009; You're BALD!

They're freezing the assets of Mubarak and his family finally, plus the new government will be announced soon, possibly later this evening.

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:37

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Did you have a look at the leaked cabinet Ham?

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:39

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GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007

Mr Plow posted:

Unconfirmed reports:

-Ambulances, loaded ships, and other forms of medical aid being sent to Libya by Egypt, Tunisia and Turkey

-Helicopters being used by the regime in Tripoli

-Soldiers "burnt alive in barracks" for refusing to remain loyal to the regime with video evidence of the bodies being discovered: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=164752430243044

This is getting insane. I feel awful for the soldiers, but the fact that Egypt, Tunisia and Turkey are taking charge of the situation and helping out their brothers from other mothers is :krad:

I'm really optimistic for Libya's future :unsmith:

# ? Feb 21, 2011 16:41

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