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Cjones posted:And no American media channels are covering this... Whenever someone posts something like this I scan their news websites (fox, msnbc and cnn anyway) and it's always been the lead item. It is now, Libya is all over their news sites. Is TV coverage that different to their website or are you just assuming they're not covering it? That's a legit question I'm in the UK so don't know. It just seems weird that they'd give this a lot of coverage online but not on TV. Something to do with interests of their repective audience?
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Jut posted:Hope the protesters prevail. If not, it could set a horrible example of how to handle protesters elsewhere. I really hope the pro-govs get their poo poo kicked in. I don't necessarily care by whom.
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Gravy Jones posted:Whenever someone posts something like this I scan their news websites (fox, msnbc and cnn anyway) and it's always been the lead item. It is now. On MSNBC right now they're interviewing some "presidential whiz kid" about American history trivia.
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Cjones posted:Yeah there's not much to cover just a loving revolution in the middle east... I have seen coverage including youtube movies and tweets. Communications are down, and not much reporting can happen. Again, what do you think can be reported on as of now, that is not already being shown? It's not as if AJ can simply waltz in there and cover it all like Egypt.
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Libyan and Bahrain's power structure isn't taking the course the Egyptian power structure took, which, while awful to many protesters, was on no level as brutal as these regimes have treated the uprisings. These started off as peaceful movements, but now they've left these protesters no choice but to resort to survival moves. I do hope Gaddafi left, it just seems even more insane for him to have left, and the country still massacring people.
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quote:Does anyone have any accounts of what the climate in Saudi Arabia is like currently, or more specifically around Riyadh? I'm scheduled to travel there in the near future for work, and Bahrain seems all too close for comfort! Wondering if there's been protesting within Saudi Arabia as well, and how they're handling all the chaos going on with their neighbors. I am Saudi, let me make sure you know the following: 1- The possibility of a revolution occuring here in Saudi is close to zero, yes there is a similar state of affairs (massive youth unemployment) but things have not deteriorated to the point that people feel the need for it. also there have been one protest over a flood that happened in jeddah but that has been swiftly put down there has been a political party formed but that was swiftly put down. 2- Saudi State is built quite differently than other places, in egypt and else where, you had a modicum of possibility that people in military, regional governments, media, religious institutions, etc. could form a different viewpoint than the government does, such is not the case in saudi because, Every single ministry, Every single Governership, Every Single town, every single branch of the military, every single facet and aspect of saudi public, private, economic, educaitonal and cultural life is not held by the same government, not by the same political party, not by the same friends, oh no, all of it is held by THE SAME FAMILY. ALL OF THEM. Thus, in any event of a mild disturbance, any attack on the state will be defined as an attack on the family itself and since the family itself holds everything then everything will be used to stop the protests. 3- The Religious Establishments fortunes are tied directly with the fortunes of the ruling family, thus the scenario of religious clerics calling for freedom like in other countries did will not happen. in fact just as the Tunisians were revolting the religious establishment issued a fatwa stating that defying your ruler is apostasy or something like that. 4- The main tribes have been bought off and the main scions elites have no problems with the ruling family since they are fat and happy. 5- There is no such thing as an opposition movement here. None. 6- Saudi Political Awareness and concerns are limited solely to providing jobs and reforming some things here and there, other than that things are relatively stable and there's no feeling or possibility that things will happen here. so it's perfectly safe! So come on down and enjoy yourself! the water is safe here. Is this your first time in Riyadh? we should do a goon meet! Also, Qaddafi should burn for what he's doing. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Feb 21, 2011 |
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Nonsense posted:Libyan and Bahrain's power structure isn't taking the course the Egyptian power structure took, which, while awful to many protesters, was on no level as brutal as these regimes have treated the uprisings. These started off as peaceful movements, but now they've left these protesters no choice but to resort to survival moves. Isn't his son calling the shots now? Al-Saqr posted:So come on down and enjoy yourself! the water is safe here. Is this your first time in Riyadh? we should do a goon meet! How's the food? You are mistaken. Hell, Gravy Jones just posted the stations that are covering it. WTF? Have you only been checking Spike, LOGO and cartoon network? VVVVVVVVVVV Cartouche fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Feb 21, 2011 |
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Gravy Jones posted:Whenever someone posts something like this I scan their news websites (fox, msnbc and cnn anyway) and it's always been the lead item. It is now, Libya is all over their news sites. I think they mean on TV, none of the US networks are mentioning it.
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CJSwiss posted:On MSNBC right now they're interviewing some "presidential whiz kid" about American history trivia. TV news is sad. When they get to the revolts it will be just biebers thoughts on libya and how snookies sending her thoughts and prayers to the albanians
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I love this. AJE blog quote:6:46pm: Al Jazeera, alongside specialist technical investigators, have pinpointed the source of its signal blockage to a Libyan intelligence agency building, south of the capital Tripoli. The network's website has also been blocked in the country, with Libyan users getting the message: "File does not exist" when they try to access it. AJE to Libyan protesters "Please sack this building, thank you"
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Al-Saqr posted:How many Saudis are actually poor? I thought most of them were expats from around the region...
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Cartouche posted:You are mistaken. Hell, Gravy Jones just posted the stations that are covering it. WTF? Have you only been checking Spike, LOGO and cartoon network? I've been watching all the news channels for the past hour. CNN just made the first reference, mainly discussing how all of this will affect oil prices.
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The television is completely out of sync with website coverage in American cable news. They might jump to television if word gets to them that Libyan jet fighters have been used against protesters.
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Cjones posted:How many Saudis are actually poor? I thought most of them were expats from around the region... Right, and like has been said in this thread before, an expatriate opposition movement would be snuffed without the slightest hint of mercy.
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Mnoba posted:I think they mean on TV, none of the US networks are mentioning it. Yeah, I realise they were talking about TV. I just find it really strange that they cover it online, but don't even mention it on TV. Don't they have any world news? Probably a topic for another thread and best not to derail anymore.
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farraday posted:AJE to Libyan protesters "Please sack this building, thank you" Hopefully this happens without more civilians getting killed 
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Cjones posted:I've been watching all the news channels for the past hour. CNN just made the first reference, mainly discussing how all of this will affect oil prices. I heard about the current situation long before I opened up this thread and started clicking on it's links. You must be extremely unlucky.
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Oh hell Bahrain canceled their F1 grand prix, way to go that's one less money pit for white people
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Gravy Jones posted:Yeah, I realise they were talking about TV. I just find it really strange that they cover it online, but don't even mention it on TV. Don't they have any world news? They do, but I suspect they'd rather only report on major developments, they're sort of skimming with this whole "Middle East thing".
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Here is a neat article about Serbian students who founded CANVAS and have helped organize some of these revolutionaries. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/02/16/revolution_u
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Gravy Jones posted:Yeah, I realise they were talking about TV. I just find it really strange that they cover it online, but don't even mention it on TV. Don't they have any world news? hahahahahaahahahaahano
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Cjones posted:Oh hell Bahrain canceled their F1 grand prix, way to go that's one less money pit for white people Actually it's good because it's one less money source for the regime to exploit. Hopefully the protests heat up again, now that there is no faux celebration.
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Gravy Jones posted:Yeah, I realise they were talking about TV. I just find it really strange that they cover it online, but don't even mention it on TV. Don't they have any world news? Probably a topic for another thread and best not to derail anymore. Right now theirs a text message competition on CNN to decide whether to talk about a big cruise liner, an old car, or old people eating.
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Cjones posted:Right now theirs a text message competition on CNN to decide whether to talk about a big cruise liner, an old car, or old people eating. I will never click on an ad, watch their network, cite an article or even entertain the thought of going to their website ever again.
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Cjones posted:How many Saudis are actually poor? I thought most of them were expats from around the region... Alot. A surprising amount. Especially if you're not part of the big families and live in the regional towns rather than the main cities. Part of the problem is that Small and Medium sized enterprises cannot thrive here and jobs in the big companies (from menial to professional) are skewed towards Expats. So the government sends a bajillion saudi's abroad for study and the ones who do rack up their MA's and PHD's fearing the day they go back home to jobs they'll never have. Cartouche posted:How's the food? Our American fast food taste better than American Fast foods in America, I'm dead serious. Aljazeera Arabic is reporting that a ridiculous amount of Libyan Ambassadors are resigning.
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I wonder if we could find images of what's happening in Libya right now. Even though there are no journalists in there right now, that doesn't mean that there aren't any people filming what's happening or taking pictures.
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Cartouche posted:Your stated feeling about it makes me harken back to Somalia, when we were unable (not allowed) to fire on militants who were firing on crowds trying to get food from aid workers. IIRC, a country going in all rambo on another country (like it or not) is frowned upon. I was thinking more of friendly neighborly help from regional governments... but I wonder if the US/EU did some limited things just to keep it from being wholesale slaughter if anyone would really begrudge it when the dust settles... I guess I am just tired of the US feeling the need to back the wrong horse. On your other point, I work at a NBC local affiliate. For Egypt we did a lot of on air coverage considering we are a local station in low 100's for market size. I think part of why there is not too much on air stuff for Libya is the difficulty in getting anything confirmed, also its been the weekend and even national weekend coverage can be lacking. Also it about brown people.  PS- my new desktop at work is that photo someone posted of the christian/muslim human chain protection quid pro quo. Although probably everyone walking by will think its something with gay arabs cuz why else would dudes hold hands. 
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Gravy Jones posted:Whenever someone posts something like this I scan their news websites (fox, msnbc and cnn anyway) and it's always been the lead item. It is now, Libya is all over their news sites.  This is from a few minutes ago. At least in this case the protests in the Middle East are being mentioned, I have seen worse examples than this. The "other stories" say it all though.
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You know, it would open a massive can of goddamn worms and be a massive headache for everyone, but at this point I wouldn't feel too bad if Tunisia and Egypt worked together to gently caress up Libya's Air Force and Navy.
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Puppy Bowl oozed cuteness, raises awareness! Sorry about the media derail, that was mostly my fault and probably best kept for another time or thread. A bit of a "first world problem" compared to being bombed by your own military for a peaceful process 
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Cjones posted:Libyan ambassador tells the UN that Qaddafi is committing genocide. Not just that - the whole UN delegation from Libya asks for the UN to instigate an immediate no fly zone over Libya. Basically they want the UN to intervene, which way things are turning is not altogether unimaginable as even the Chinese must be appalled at what the Libyans are doing.
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Cjones posted:Libyan ambassador tells the UN that Qaddafi is committing genocide. ukle posted:Not just that - the whole UN delegation from Libya asks for the UN to instigate an immediate no fly zone over Libya. Basically they want the UN to intervene, which way things are turning is not altogether unimaginable as even the Chinese must be appalled at what the Libyans are doing. links? AJE not mentioning this
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Petey posted:links? AJE not mentioning this BBC mentioning it on website and now live via their UN correspondent.
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Cjones posted:Libyan ambassador tells the UN that Qaddafi is committing genocide. drat. I was thinking earlier that as far as insane, megalomaniac dictators go Gaddafi flies under the radar somewhat, and even manages to get away with that whole harmless eccentric thing, because unlike some of his peers he hasn't commited genocide. This is so hosed up.
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ukle posted:Not just that - the whole UN delegation from Libya asks for the UN to instigate an immediate no fly zone over Libya. Basically they want the UN to intervene, which way things are turning is not altogether unimaginable as even the Chinese must be appalled at what the Libyans are doing. This is astounding. This whole situation is sickening, surely after all these resignations and what he's done to his people Qaddafi and his family can't hope to stay in power? I hope the international community actually do something this time... I mean christ, there's enough NATO airbases within easy flying distance, never mind Egypt and Tunisia. I'm fully aware that that doesn't tend to be how things like this play out though. Still, we can always hope.
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