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Also, center width on handlebars, is that measured from the center or outside edges of the clamps? As in, I measured the handlebar clamps and from outside edge to outside edge as 4.8 inches, and from center to center on the clamps it is 4.0 inches. Can I fit handlebars with a center width of 4 inches or do I need a minimum of 4.8 - 5.0 inches. Not only might this be an unfortunate limiting factor, but a ton of places don't list the center width on bars they're selling.
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Angra Mainyu posted:Bay area goons: What's the approximate hourly rate for shop labor? Either your arm or your leg. Your choice. Preferably both. Just kidding, but I can imagine it isn't cheap.
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Angra Mainyu posted:Bay area goons: What's the approximate hourly rate for shop labor? 75-100?
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Angra Mainyu posted:Bay area goons: What's the approximate hourly rate for shop labor? I think i've seen somewhere for ~60 an hour, it goes up to 100$ depending on the shop and location. http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20626&page=69 Give Shawn here a call, hes pretty awesome, charges around 50$/hour and will travel to you. I could probably help you with some minor things as well depending on where you are 
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I've got a good lead on an 07 GSXR 600/750 front end for my Bandit. According to yon internnette, that swap will drop the front end 2.5 to 3 inches. I've probably got at least 2 inches of preload in my rear shock (which is also an 07 GSXR 1000 unit). If I take that preload out, and put the new front end on, give or take that 0.5 inches, all should be good, geometry-wise, correct?
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Phat_Albert posted:I've got a good lead on an 07 GSXR 600/750 front end for my Bandit. According to yon internnette, that swap will drop the front end 2.5 to 3 inches. I've probably got at least 2 inches of preload in my rear shock (which is also an 07 GSXR 1000 unit). If I take that preload out, and put the new front end on, give or take that 0.5 inches, all should be good, geometry-wise, correct? It'll still be lower and have less ground though, won't it? I think to keep the geometry correct you'll need a shouldered top triple clamp.
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More of a track question, but how do you guys handle really long corners with few reference points? I always find myself having a poo poo line or inconstant... especially the slow corners. The bike doesn't feel like it settles or is as stable, but I guess that would come down to throttle control? For example, turn 4 at Firebird East  I loving hate this corner, I feel like I lose a lot of time there but I'm able to make up a lot in 8, 9, and 10. There is also a corner at my old ride spot that is the same. 
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Feb 27, 2011 06:18
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What specifically are you asking? As long as you're going inside at the first corner to the outside / midtrack-ish back to inside you should be fine. Depending on how wide that straight section is between the corners you can go further outside to carry speed most likely. If that corner is just one long corner and not two right angles then your problem becomes holding a line. I find that sometimes on sharp u-turn corners it's harder to hold a line if you aren't going in fairly quick. You're going to have a tendency to stand the bike back up if you go in slow without enough speed to keep leaned over.
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Feb 27, 2011 22:50
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JP Money posted:What specifically are you asking? As long as you're going inside at the first corner to the outside / midtrack-ish back to inside you should be fine. Depending on how wide that straight section is between the corners you can go further outside to carry speed most likely.
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In that case I'd probably stay fairly wide before turn 4, turn in and stay towards the middle-outside of the turn and try to work on arcing back in to make the turn again. Like I said I'd try to stay on the gas and go in quickly so you that you don't stand it back up. If that doesn't work, have you tried staying wide, going in tight and coming back outside hard and standing it up to set yourself up for the second identical turn?
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BlackMK4 posted:More of a track question, but how do you guys handle really long corners with few reference points? I always find myself having a poo poo line or inconstant... especially the slow corners. The bike doesn't feel like it settles or is as stable, but I guess that would come down to throttle control? I personally would treat this as a late turn-in, single apex corner just because it's less to think about. With a sweeper like this it's probably very tempting to do unnecessary midcorner corrections which always hurts consistency, so a single apex means you're committing to one turn-in, one line. Also means you only have to worry about doing a smooth roll-on after your steering input. This makes it easy to troubleshoot - if you're going neutral on the gas during the corner or making steering corrections, alter your turn-in or line appropriately. I also think a late turn-in will help you get the most drive out of it for the following straight. The lack of visual refs might be a bitch, they got anything even like tar snakes or braking markers? FuzzyWuzzyBear fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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Feb 28, 2011 04:57
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Do you have video of that corner?
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So my bike got impounded because I had it parked in the street with no registration and insurance on it(let it lapse because shifter is hosed up and I can't ride it right now). It's definitely my fault but my question is will I be able to get the bike out with out registering and insuring it? I'm going to have to put it in the back of a pick-up anyway so I don't really want to pay for that stuff right now. I don't want to let it sit in impound because the DMV is closed tomorrow anyway. I'm in New Jersey and I'm a stupid dick.
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youtubes showed me it, a bit before 50secs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWIVLff5R0U
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nsaP posted:youtubes showed me it, a bit before 50secs. Hahaha, that is Ted, owner of AzTrackday. I think his reputation has probably spread all over the internet at this point. Here is a better video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O7dghAiUFg 1:40 BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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KidDynamite posted:So my bike got impounded because I had it parked in the street with no registration and insurance on it(let it lapse because shifter is hosed up and I can't ride it right now). It's definitely my fault but my question is will I be able to get the bike out with out registering and insuring it? I'm going to have to put it in the back of a pick-up anyway so I don't really want to pay for that stuff right now. I don't want to let it sit in impound because the DMV is closed tomorrow anyway. I'm in New Jersey and I'm a stupid dick.
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Z3n posted:Can't speak to new jersey, but get it out as fast as possible, those impound fees stack up fast! Yeah I'm going to call them up tomorrow and see if I can pick it up in my friends pick-up. If not I'll have to wait until at least Tuesday to get the registration done. I was just wondering if anyone knew about getting it out of the lot without having that stuff.
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I have absolutely zero experience with motorcycles but I'm steadily growing more interested, so I have a question: For someone who finds the idea of riding a motorcycle thrilling but also somewhat scary as gently caress, will reading the PA Motorcycle Operator Manual and taking the permit test prepare me for the MSF course? I don't know anyone else with a motorcycle, and I've never been on one so... I really have no idea what to expect. I'm a completely blank slate here. An enthusiastic, nervous slate.
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Fifty Three posted:I have absolutely zero experience with motorcycles but I'm steadily growing more interested, so I have a question:
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Fifty Three posted:I have absolutely zero experience with motorcycles but I'm steadily growing more interested, so I have a question: The basic principles are as for bicycles, which hopefully you've ridden before. However, even if you're an experienced cyclist, it takes time to get used to the relative weight and velocity of a motorcycle. Combine that with the fact that you also have to operate a clutch, a throttle, and change gears (hopefully!), which adds to your "workload" when you're adjusting to the difference balance characteristics of a motorcycle. Once you are used to it and riding regularly, you stop being able to feel a real difference in control weight between bicycle and motorcycle, except maybe at very low speed. So while reading the operator manual will help, you really need to practice off road (by which I mean off the public road, not off paved roads!) for a bit on some kind of motorcycle before doing any sort of test, even if as above you're experienced with bicycles. All I would add is that if you have no m/c experience, don't try to get a pillion ride to give you a taste of riding. It doesn't really. Aside from not having any control, which is pretty disconcerting when you're not used to being on a powered 2-wheeler, you're sitting way far from the centre of gravity and you're really loosely coupled with the mass of the machine.
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Fifty Three posted:I have absolutely zero experience with motorcycles but I'm steadily growing more interested, so I have a question: When I started, I had my bike before I took the permit course so I just practised starting and stopping in my driveway and that was a big help. I had never ridden a motorcycle either, but I had been on bicycles since longer than I can remember. Also, when you decide that you want to keep riding, and you buy a bike, don't spend all your money on the bike and then cheap out on gear. You say you find it a bit scary, and safe motorcycling is about reducing the risk. Wearing gear and taking the MSF course both reduce the risk, so you are off to a good start with the course.
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So just to let you guys know the state of New Jersey really knows how to gently caress you. If you get impounded for no insurance you have to show the the permanent insurance card for your policy. You can't use the stuff you print off the internet or that the insurance company faxes over to you. So basically you have to wait the 7-10 days and pay storage for all those days. Luckily I have a FedEx account and Progressive is going to overnight it to me but that's a load of horseshit if I ever loving saw one. To the guy that's never ridden before. Just be gentle with the throttle and be aware that you need to clutch in to stop. Keep in mind the msf bikes are all weak as hell so you may have to give them more throttle but this will not apply to anything bigger or sportier.
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Fifty Three posted:will reading the PA Motorcycle Operator Manual and taking the permit test prepare me for the MSF course? I don't know anyone else with a motorcycle, and I've never been on one so... I really have no idea what to expect. I'm a completely blank slate here. An enthusiastic, nervous slate.
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Seconding riding a bicycle a whole bunch before the MSF. If you fail they'll let you take it again. I had zero experience on a motorcycle or with a manual transmission when I took the MSF and I did just fine. All of the MSF ridercoaches I know do not recommend riding a motorcycle before you take the course because it's really easy to develop bad habits that will seriously hamper your progression through the course. It's best to ride a bicycle a whole bunch and show up as a blank slate when it comes to motorcycles. Fwiw, one of the rider coaches has been doing it for a long time, and the failure rate is 100% for those who did not know how to ride a bicycle before coming to MSF. The biggest cause of failure among new riders is getting flustered and not relaxing, once people start tensing up they have difficulty learning. Edit: Phat_Albert, what's the rake and trail of a B12? I'd look it up but I'm on my phone. Z3n fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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Thanks, dudes. I've been on a bicycle longer than I can remember so no problem there, but like Saga said it's the relative weight and velocity that concerns me. I'm used to the idea of a clutch though, at least. I've driven a friend's ATV before and my only vehicle is a 5-speed truck. I'll just have fun with it.
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Sounds like you're relatively prepared then. Like I said, once you adjust to it, you stop noticing the weight of the "bike". It's actually just being used to how it carries its weight and also having to ride the thing while getting used to operating clutch/brakes/gears. It's not like you have to physically wrestle it around corners (unless you buy an antique Kawasaki Mach III triple ) - a modern motorcycle with fat tyres, an enormously stiff frame and also a crankshaft spinning merrily away just below the c of g is a lot more stable and less "fidgety" at 100mph than, say, a road bike on skinny rubber is at 30.
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Finally took delivery of my new Street Triple yesterday (drat Los Angeles winter!), and promptly put a hundred miles on her. After pulling into the driveway, and playing around with all the functions of the instrument cluster, I realized there's at least one flaw with the bike: where the hell is the fuel gauge? I have a gear indicator, instantaneous MPG readout, and even a lap timer. But no fuel gauge.
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wilkenm posted:drat Los Angeles winter! shut up.
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wilkenm posted:Finally took delivery of my new Street Triple yesterday (drat Los Angeles winter!), and promptly put a hundred miles on her. After pulling into the driveway, and playing around with all the functions of the instrument cluster, I realized there's at least one flaw with the bike: where the hell is the fuel gauge? I have a gear indicator, instantaneous MPG readout, and even a lap timer. But no fuel gauge. Why the hell do you care about a fuel gauge? My 02 Yamaha R6 has a low fuel light that kicks when I have one gallon left in the tank. The odometer changes to a new trip meter to let me know how long I'm riding with low fuel.
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Crayvex posted:Why the hell do you care about a fuel gauge? My 02 Yamaha R6 has a low fuel light that kicks when I have one gallon left in the tank. The odometer changes to a new trip meter to let me know how long I'm riding with low fuel. Because that's what I'm used to? I honestly thought all bikes modern bikes with and LCD instrument cluster would have a fuel gauge, but that's clearly wrong.
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wilkenm posted:Because that's what I'm used to? I honestly thought all bikes modern bikes with and LCD instrument cluster would have a fuel gauge, but that's clearly wrong. If you know your MPG it's easy to gauge when you need gas. Just reset the trip odometer when you refuel and you'll know how many miles you've gone and when to get gas.
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Doesn't it have a fuel light? Most modern bikes have a fuel light, very few bikes have an actual gauge. My old bike had no fuel gauge or fuel light - so refilling every 200km has become instinct to me. Kyon fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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Bikes rarely have fuel gauges these days, I'd imagine it's because they're generally hopelessly inaccurate due to the odd shapes of motorcycle fuel tanks.
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wilkenm posted:Finally took delivery of my new Street Triple yesterday (drat Los Angeles winter!), and promptly put a hundred miles on her. After pulling into the driveway, and playing around with all the functions of the instrument cluster, I realized there's at least one flaw with the bike: where the hell is the fuel gauge? I have a gear indicator, instantaneous MPG readout, and even a lap timer. But no fuel gauge. Full tank is 17.4L (4.5G), and you can calculate that too.
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Crayvex posted:Why the hell do you care about a fuel gauge? My 02 Yamaha R6 has a low fuel light that kicks when I have one gallon left in the tank. The odometer changes to a new trip meter to let me know how long I'm riding with low fuel. Wow Yamaha should clue Kawasaki in on that. When my ninja gets low the odometer starts blinking FUEL and doesn't let you change it back, so you don't how far you can go or are going. It has a programmable stopwatch for lap times, though. 
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My VFR has a fuel gauge which fluctuates by about a quarter of a tank which is not terribly useful.
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Gnaghi posted:Wow Yamaha should clue Kawasaki in on that. When my ninja gets low the odometer starts blinking FUEL and doesn't let you change it back, so you don't how far you can go or are going. It has a programmable stopwatch for lap times, though. Press the mode button and it will switch back to your trip meter... at least this is what my Kawi does.
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BlackMK4 posted:Press the mode button and it will switch back to your trip meter... at least this is what my Kawi does. They fixed it with your generation I think (you've got one of the fancy new ones IIRC). The older Ninjas just stay stuck on FUEL until you fill up again.
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Yeah you can't change it for the 05s at least, cause I remember repeatedly trying to on the way to work while getting more worried cause I didn't have time to stop. I made it 160 miles, fuel light came on at 130.
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