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Deadpool posted:I loved that because it's how I felt the one or two times I saw a DGUSA event. I understand that people like that stuff but I just can't get into it. I was also at the first show, and after the third match or so, I realized "Everyone is going to go nuts for this, but it's very poorly put together." The crowd was at 11/10 at the beginning of the show, and by the end of the third match, they were about 6.5-7/10. It was way too much. Definitely the worst structured show I've ever been to. Under normal circumstances, they'd be dead, but a lot of people who just watched the PPV with bad sound quality on their own time, under their own pace didn't get the drop. So what happened was they figured we were just being negative to be negative, since the crowd still sounded lively, when in reality it was like taking a crowd that was 7/10 to 3/10. If I still subscribed I'd probably love Cat Chat, but I generally detested most non-wrestling talk on B&V. I would always fast forward through Granny/Brent Chat.
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I was big into ROH at one point because of guys like Danielson and Joe and Punk and of course the match quality. But after a while you just get burnt out. After so many good matches they just all seem to blur together. There was a time that most matches on an ROH card were probably good at worst and great at best. And while that sounds great I eventually got so apathetic about what most people would call great matches that I just couldn't watch anymore.
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Cubsfan is on this week's Dr. Lucha Figure 4 Daily which is a nice surprise. I know lucha takes the winter off and all, but it is March and the only lucha news this year has been WWE signing Mistico. Not a good sign.
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jeffersonlives posted:If you're going to a show that Gabe Sapolsky booked, you basically have to accept bad pacing and burned out crowds as part of the territory. He's just not good at that anymore for whatever reason. There was only one other Gabe show I had been to that ever was that bad, and it was Gabe's last show. He was awful at pacing (Hence having to put world title matches in semi-main spots so the crowd wouldn't be burned out for them), but he was never truly wretched until late 2008.
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Davey Richards loses his podcast virginity on this week's Art of Wrestling! 
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HulkaMatt posted:Davey was on the drunkcast. MassRayPer posted:Davey also did a Figure 4 Daily back in 2005. That would have to make him one of the first guests on the show. Then the very first thing he says on Colt's podcast is a lie. 
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Bald-n-Nekkid posted:Then the very first thing he says on Colt's podcast is a lie. That's called working!
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Deadpool posted:And while that sounds great I eventually got so apathetic about what most people would call great matches that I just couldn't watch anymore. Isn't that why god created TNA? Speaking of: Latest Observer they're STILL going on about TNA  algebra testes fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Mar 17, 2011 |
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MassRayPer posted:Cubsfan is on this week's Dr. Lucha Figure 4 Daily which is a nice surprise. I know lucha takes the winter off and all, but it is March and the only lucha news this year has been WWE signing Mistico. Not a good sign. Well, there's the stuff with Dorian Roldan trying to get CMLL to see that the Mexican promotions need to work together to fight WWE, but it's depressing that that's probably a non-story.
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Gaz-L posted:Well, there's the stuff with Dorian Roldan trying to get CMLL to see that the Mexican promotions need to work together to fight WWE, but it's depressing that that's probably a non-story. I honestly think that is just Dorian putting it out there so he can make CMLL look uncooperative when nothing comes of it. Also every time I see this thread title I think of this: http://angrymarks.com/music/songs/dj2-Dave%20Meltzer%20Theme.mp3
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I just listened to my first Bryan and Vinnie show ever and although the cat talk is odd I thought that it was fantastic. Should I listen to the '10 Christmas show next? Or is that not a good choice for a second impression, does it involve any wrestling talk at all?
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Sue Denim posted:I just listened to my first Bryan and Vinnie show ever and although the cat talk is odd I thought that it was fantastic. The whole point of the Christmas shows is debauchery and no wrestling talk at all, though some creeps in by accident. If you want to hear them drunk and chat with Lance Storm for a while? Sure. But I'd just skim the archives. Or, do what I do: listen to the Adrenaline Flush archives on THE BOARD until they are practically memorized.
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Sue Denim posted:I just listened to my first Bryan and Vinnie show ever and although the cat talk is odd I thought that it was fantastic. Bryan (in next room): WOO!! Vinny: That was a 35 year old man just doing the flair strutt, then doing a woo. Bryan (next room): I gotta take this jacket off! Vinny: Hit it with an elbow drop! *muffled thud from next room*
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Good to know, the two episodes I've listened to have had roots music openings which totally set me in a  mood, a wrestling show that opens with roots music totally fits for me too, north American wrestling is just so Americana there's something so definitively American in it's story telling and values.Edit: Oh god, I sound like Russo trying to go forwards by going backwards. Can anyone think of any particular Bryan and Vinny shows that were particularly good from the past year? I seem to remember someone mentioning a rant about a Jeff Hardy bump onto a flaming Christmas tree. Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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LordPants posted:Bryan (in next room): WOO!! Also good to mention this was only like 30 minutes the show too.
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Todd Martin is great and he is often the only one to present a differing point of view on WO/F4W. It gets really stale hearing Bryan and Dave discussing something and agreeing about the state of affairs, then have Bryan rant on the B&V show about the same thing with Vinny agreeing, then have him go through the same goddamn points with Lance who agrees. Todd is wrong sometimes, but a lot of the time his points are at least as valid as whatever hyperbole Bryan is spouting. I like Todd. Haters gonna hate and all that.
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triplexpac posted:Remember when Bryan tried doing daily news updates?
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Beeswax posted:Todd Martin is great and he is often the only one to present a differing point of view on WO/F4W. It gets really stale hearing Bryan and Dave discussing something and agreeing about the state of affairs, then have Bryan rant on the B&V show about the same thing with Vinny agreeing, then have him go through the same goddamn points with Lance who agrees. Todd is wrong sometimes, but a lot of the time his points are at least as valid as whatever hyperbole Bryan is spouting. nope. todd is a total idiot that doesnt ever know what he's talking about & also he wouldn't spell "corre" because it would "encourage wwe" i mean what the gently caress
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MassRayPer posted:That's called working! You have a funny way of spelling "concussions". hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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LividLiquid posted:Audio updates? Because they still do daily news updates. I think this was before the merger, Bryan tried doing a 15 minute news update every single day. The only problem was he didn't really have news to talk about every day, so a lot of the updates were a bunch of non-news. Not sure if they still do that, I hadn't noticed if that's the case. I thought now it was just him and Dave doing Observer Radio a few times a week, plus all the other wacky B shows.
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Sometimes I think we should start our own Youtube/radio show. I want Shaman of Cum and coconono on air.
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Granny may be going slightly senile, which is sad, but she's still cool. "If you could have magic plastic surgery that made your face look like anyone on Earth, who would you choose?" "Frankenstein."
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triplexpac posted:I think this was before the merger, Bryan tried doing a 15 minute news update every single day. The only problem was he didn't really have news to talk about every day, so a lot of the updates were a bunch of non-news. He originally did Figure 4 Daily nearly daily with interviews and news updates. He stopped for years and just did interviews. Then in late 09 he started again and stopped after a month.
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Borh posted:Granny may be going slightly senile, which is sad, but she's still cool. Haha I legit laughed on the subway when she said that.
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Gatts posted:Sometimes I think we should start our own Youtube/radio show. "The Coco & Cum Wrestling Hour" does have a morning zoo sound to it.
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Grant DaNasty posted:"The Coco & Cum Wrestling Hour" does have a morning zoo sound to it. I want this to happen. Time to figure out how to set things up...
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The latest Botchamania is highlights of Victory Road set to Bryan and Dave's bitchings about the show. Awesome.
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LordPants posted:The latest Botchamania is highlights of Victory Road set to Bryan and Dave's bitchings about the show. Link please. Or number. Or anything
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elf help book posted:Link please. Or number. Or anything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n1NxhSgywo
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TNA should use Dave's line from tonight's show as their new tagline: "It's beyond incredible... it's TNA!"
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I know I should expect this, but my jaw dropped when I heard this story on WOR today. Dave said that TV Week ran a story headlined "Drew Carey elected to pro wrestling hall of fame". Someone from WWE called them, got really pissed off, and demanded that they change the headline because WWE is not a wrestling company, it's a "multimedia conglomerate", it's not a pro wrestling hall of fame, they don't employ wrestlers they employ Superstars and Divas etc etc Says a lot about the current product if it's being run by people who hate wrestling.
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:I know I should expect this, but my jaw dropped when I heard this story on WOR today. Dave said that TV Week ran a story headlined "Drew Carey elected to pro wrestling hall of fame". Someone from WWE called them, got really pissed off, and demanded that they change the headline because WWE is not a wrestling company, it's a "multimedia conglomerate", it's not a pro wrestling hall of fame, they don't employ wrestlers they employ Superstars and Divas etc etc Christ almighty. I seriously can't wait for Vince, Dunn et al. to get the gently caress out. Petty delusional manchildren, the lot of them.
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Psycho Mantits posted:I seriously can't wait for Vince, Dunn et al. to get the gently caress out. You're in for a very long and sad lifetime of waiting, then.
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Captain Charisma posted:You're in for a very long and sad lifetime of waiting, then. Yes, I'm aware that I'm setting myself up for disappointment if I actually expect any meaningful change within WWE. Most of the time I don't even bother to get worked up, but there are some instances (like the one I quoted) that are so mindbogglingly petty and delusional that I can't help but get pissed off.
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New Observer is up. My favorite quote: Cab Driver: This is a dangerous neighborhood. Bones Jones: We don't need to worry about it.
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