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I've been in kind of a bad (and cheap) RPG mood recently, having swooped in on Gamersgate's 5 year anniversary sale and picked up 3 games from them (Gods: Lands of Infinity "Special" Edition, The Chosen: Well of Souls and Space Hack) alongside Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods Enhanced Edition and ArcaniA (which I'm surprisingly enjoying) from the Steam sale. But there have been a few other "bad" RPGs that have caught my eye that I can barely find anything on outside of a few reviews and random videos on Youtube. Can anyone with first-hand knowledge tell me just how bad these following games are: NeverEnd Dimensity Hazen: The Dark Whisper Greed: Black Border Hard To Be A God Dawn of Magic
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dumb brunette posted:For what it's worth, I had this spoiled before I played the game and I still really enjoyed it. Of course, my threshold for spoilers is really high and even if I get them I can usually still enjoy the content involved, so your mileage may vary.
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Apr 4, 2011 15:57
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The Black Stones posted:I didn't hear about this game until recently, but I decided to pre-order because Falcom is behind it and I love the YS series. Well, did you play it yet? The only place I can find that reviewed it so far is RPGFan and I'd like to hear a couple more opinions before I And I'm really excited that Xenoblade's coming to Europe. I mean it's pretty inevitable that since they are translating it into English that it's going to come over here to America too right?
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Apr 4, 2011 17:49
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Coolio posted:The identity of the killer is 100% obvious anyway if you aren't a big loving idiot. Gee who could it be, it's definitely not this guy who keeps showing up randomly to "accidentally" feed the kids info and has no point otherwise in the story. ah well in that case I guess it doesn't really bother me like I thought it did, so thanks
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Apr 4, 2011 17:56
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Oh my GOD Last Scenario's mini game is loving lovely. Why yes I love the FF9 system of you lose the game oyu lose cards haha YOU DONT HAVE ENOUGH TO PLAY loving DIE
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Apr 6, 2011 17:27
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Paperhouse posted:ah well in that case I guess it doesn't really bother me like I thought it did, so thanks Play Persona 4, rear end in a top hat. It is really good. More fun to actually play than P3 in my opinion, with a slightly weaker story and slightly stronger characters.
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Apr 7, 2011 00:16
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What ever happened with Last Story? I understand it still hasn't had a confirmed US release, but all I know is that it got a pretty good Famitsu review. I never heard the internet gushing about what a travesty its lack of a release is, but didn't hear anything about 'more lovely bad rpgs from Mistwalker' either. I keep wanting to have faith in Mistwalker, but the lack of hearing anything about The Last Story makes me worry.
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Apr 7, 2011 00:34
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Nathilus posted:Play Persona 4, rear end in a top hat. It is really good. More fun to actually play than P3 in my opinion, with a slightly weaker story and slightly stronger characters. I never actually even finished Persona 3  started playing it again though since I did really like it and got quite far.
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Apr 7, 2011 01:39
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Oh my GOD Last Scenario's mini game is loving lovely. Why yes I love the FF9 system of you lose the game oyu lose cards haha YOU DONT HAVE ENOUGH TO PLAY Pretty much this. I played one game, got my rear end handed to me without even realizing what I did wrong, and never played again. I know you can get prizes for trading in certain cards, and I think there's an optional boss if you collect every card in the game, but gently caress that.
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Apr 7, 2011 03:09
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Yeah, i would have liked a better tutorial. I saved and kept trying 10 or 20 times and after about the 5th game I had a better grasp but was in no way able to beat that moustache dude at the start. Story is cool though. Sad things in a jrpg? Nice.
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Apr 7, 2011 03:34
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HondaCivet posted:And I'm really excited that Xenoblade's coming to Europe. I mean it's pretty inevitable that since they are translating it into English that it's going to come over here to America too right? I would like to say yes. But Disaster: Day of Crisis, Another Code: R and Last Window would all lead me to say no. But apparently NoA registered a website for it this time. So...maybe? Whatever, I'll just import if it comes out in Europe first unless a NA release is only a week or 2 behind. Edge Zero posted:What ever happened with Last Story? I understand it still hasn't had a confirmed US release, but all I know is that it got a pretty good Famitsu review. I never heard the internet gushing about what a travesty its lack of a release is, but didn't hear anything about 'more lovely bad rpgs from Mistwalker' either. I keep wanting to have faith in Mistwalker, but the lack of hearing anything about The Last Story makes me worry. I haven't heard much either. But I haven't dug for info either. I would definitely love to see a NA release for it. But if current trends continue NoE will probably pick up the slack!
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Apr 7, 2011 05:04
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Nevermind.
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Apr 7, 2011 05:58
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Edge Zero posted:What ever happened with Last Story? http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-of-america-registers-the-last-story-domain-198181.phtml thats about it. It sold out in Japan, but like xenoblade, they hardly even advertised that it exists anywhere else. Its not even on most people's radars...
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Apr 7, 2011 13:26
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On the subject of JRPGs, and with the eventual (likely) release of both Xenoblade and The Last Story, I might as well comment about my experiences. I'm a heavy JRPG (and really, a heavy RPG player in general), but as time has progressed, I've been able to put up with less and less bullshit. Let's face it: most RPGs from Japan have become stale, and although Final Fantasy XII may have had some degree of success, many of us feel that Square Enix isn't doing a good job anymore. I finished The Last Story in the two weeks that it released (with a lot of time to spare in between major deadlines), and my feeling as a whole on this game was that it was mediocre. I liked the battle system to a certain extent, but I feel that the plot was entirely predictable and disappointing. The game felt incredibly linear, with some side quests that were still quite limited. While most of the *few* side quests directly tied in with the characters, I really couldn't feel any sympathy with the characters because of the JRPG-ness of the plot. The graphics of the game were disappointing, with little care and attention with textures and shadows. Granted, I'm a computer scientist and am a lot more picky about graphics errors. Furthermore, part of the issues have to do with the Wii itself and the lack of graphics power on the console. However, I feel that The Last Story still could have paid more attention to detail. Xenoblade, on the contrary, is probably the most satisfying JRPG that I've played in the last two years. I'll list some of its flaws later in the game, but the feeling that I get from Xenoblade is a single-player run through World of Warcraft with an actual plot, a more authentic single-player combat system, and more interesting worlds. If you're not the person to like grinding in MMOs, fear not as the Xenoblade really is a single-player game, and far from WoW. The game world in Xenoblade is extremely huge; it's like 15 Gran Pulses strung together carefully, with open quests in each region. Part of the game is really just exploring the entire world, and the collection quests provide a large impetus to do so. While the plot is assuredly JRPG-ey (partially cheesy), I feel the way to describe it is JRPG done properly. Really, the game feels like a JRPG, but with every part of said JRPG done in the correct way. Issues with Xenoblade include: 1) I really wish there were an option to turn off the yelling of combat spells every second in battles 2) Graphics could still be better, and lip-syncing assuredly could be done a lot better 3) AI 4) A larger variety in quests and enemies. I feel that there are an insanely huge number of status effects and ways to handle situations, but most of the enemies still remain similar.
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Apr 8, 2011 04:49
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Can someone recommend to me a single player pc rpg that is: - party/turn based (I'm thinking like wizardary, final fantasy or maybe even eye of the beholder style) - basically just a random level dungeon crawler. I could care less about story. Just give me a hella difficult never ending dungeon that scales in difficulty as my party progress. (I'm thinking like a rogue like here except party based)
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Apr 8, 2011 19:00
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Pork Roll posted:Can someone recommend to me a single player pc rpg that is: Hrm... I'm struggling to hit anything that matches all of those requirements. If you want to go Eye of the Beholder style (real time combat), Captive 1 hits most of those points. The dungeons are randomly generated (but use a seed) and there are basically an unlimited number of them. It's also really hard. There has to be some party-based roguelike I'm forgetting about ... Also it's kind of silly but have you ever played through the Ancient Cave in Lufia 2? It's a bonus side dungeon in the game but it's basically a simple roguelike with a fairly standard jRPG style combat system. It doesn't have a ton of depth but it's a fun diversion in an already very good jRPG. It's a SNES game but easily emulated of course.
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Apr 8, 2011 19:28
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Dungeon Hack sounds like it'd fit the bill except it's not party based You could create your own dungeons with Forgotten Realms: Unlimited Adventures, if you were so inclined. I think it comes with one pre-made dungeon. This is all pretty old school though and maybe not what you're exactly looking for
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Apr 8, 2011 19:59
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Pork Roll posted:Can someone recommend to me a single player pc rpg that is:
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Apr 8, 2011 20:30
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Pork Roll posted:Can someone recommend to me a single player pc rpg that is: If you can deal with anime and levels that aren't random Etrian Odyssey seems like it'd be up your alley.
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Apr 8, 2011 21:24
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Coolio posted:The identity of the killer is 100% obvious anyway if you aren't a big loving idiot. Gee who could it be, it's definitely not this guy who keeps showing up randomly to "accidentally" feed the kids info and has no point otherwise in the story. As you say, the reason I knew who it was very early was entirely because he didn't seem to serve any purpose as a character but had a portrait and voice-over. Too bad, because I really like how they handled you having to pick him out.
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Apr 8, 2011 22:24
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Pork Roll posted:Can someone recommend to me a single player pc rpg that is: If you're down for Infinity Engine maybe Icewind Dale II? At the very least I know the focus of that game is purely in the combat.
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Apr 8, 2011 23:06
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ntan1 posted:On the subject of JRPGs, and with the eventual (likely) release of both Xenoblade and The Last Story, I might as well comment about my experiences. Try Radiant Historia on the DS, great storyline and the main character isn't a little whiny bitch, he's actually a dick. Check it out, its very good.
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Apr 9, 2011 15:56
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Are those in the OP the only decent RPGmaker games? Also, are there any decent indie-rpg hobbyist creator focused communities?
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Apr 9, 2011 22:20
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casual poster posted:Try Radiant Historia on the DS, great storyline and the main character isn't a little whiny bitch, he's actually a dick. Check it out, its very good. Seconding this. The battle system is unique and fun, and the story is actually one of the best ones I've encountered in JRPGs. The time travel mechanic is unique too, it's not a wannabe Chrono Trigger. (Though it would've made a MUCH better sequel to Chrono Trigger than Chrono Cross was.)
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Apr 9, 2011 22:50
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psychopomp posted:Also, are there any decent indie-rpg hobbyist creator focused communities? I help run this one, it's generally focused on one specific RPG engine but any indie games are welcome. http://www.slimesalad.com/
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Apr 9, 2011 22:58
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Just out of curiosity, can anyone recommend an RPG that is as close as you can get to Ultima VII, but relatively recent? By "relatively" I mean last 6 years, top-down/3D/isometric-view it doesn't matter, just something similar that will fill the gaping hole in my RPG life 
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Apr 9, 2011 23:19
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Whoever mentioned Avernum a few pages back, thank you. I've recently started playing Avernum 6, and its a ton of old school fun. I love the immense amount of dialogue and area descriptions, they really add to the world. I played the Blades of Exile demo to death back when I was a kid and it was nice to see the company still around. One question: How important are the previous five game storywise? Would anyone recommend playing through the whole series before 6? Lurchibles posted:Just out of curiosity, can anyone recommend an RPG that is as close as you can get to Ultima VII, but relatively recent? You should try Avernum, it seems right up your alley: http://www.avernum.com/avernum6/index.html
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Apr 9, 2011 23:36
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TooManyUzukis posted:You should try Avernum, it seems right up your alley: http://www.avernum.com/avernum6/index.html At a glance it looks like exactly what I was looking for I have bookmarked it under the "things to buy when University is over and you can afford to pour hundreds of hours of your life into videogames" sub-folder. Edit: Just noticed the demo link, woop! I will also watch this thread for an answer to: TooManyUzukis posted:One question: How important are the previous five game storywise? Would anyone recommend playing through the whole series before 6?
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Apr 9, 2011 23:41
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TooManyUzukis posted:One question: How important are the previous five game storywise? Would anyone recommend playing through the whole series before 6?  1 through 3 are pretty good, although 1 has some issues, like left-clicking to move making you double-move for some reason. (use right-click instead, which in 2 and 3 brings up the "look/interact" function instead) And also no quest log. 2 is pretty drat sweet, especially if you've played 1, as it's about the fallout of the PC's actions in 1.
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Apr 10, 2011 02:17
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casual poster posted:Try Radiant Historia on the DS, great storyline and the main character isn't a little whiny bitch, he's actually a dick. Check it out, its very good. Really seconding this. I picked this up a couple days and really enjoying the gameplay.
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Apr 10, 2011 03:16
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All right, why didn't anyone mention that The Spirit Engine 2 was free? I just remembered this RPG was on my to-play list, downloaded it on Friday, and now my whole weekend's gone, thanks to 9 of the best RPG characters I've ever played. Sure, the dialogue gets kind of generic in places, but there are more than enough unique variations to keep my simple mind amused. Character skills don't vary much, but their starting skills can lock one into a whole shitload of unique strategies- none of which leads to an instant 'I lose  ' situation.That said, some of my entertainment value came from watching just how characters can interact with each other (Grace and Batiste comes to mind), and contrasting it with DA2's 'what the gently caress do we care?' mentality. That's right, people, TSE2's a shitload better than DA2. Buy this game (creator's got a PayPal donate button, ain't no reason not to)! P/S: Denever/Ionae/PyanPau is the best party, hands down  EDIT: Is there any other reason to play on Absurd, other than increased difficulty?
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Apr 10, 2011 17:35
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CommissarMega posted:That's right, people, TSE2's a shitload better than DA2. It didn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that. Hell, the poo poo I just took has more entertainment value than DA2.
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Apr 10, 2011 17:48
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So uh, I just realized I can't remember a speck of plot from Star Ocean: The Last Hope. I think I watched the cutscenes even though the plot was awful. I can only remember that everything was stupid and I had a robot and a catgirl in my party. For some reason I think this is a good thing. I also can't remember much of Tales of Vesperia. I know I had an awesome dog in my party, there was a fountain that was broken, then way later there was a water dungeon and I think a Sephiroth type guy summoned Meteor at the end and he was really tough because I had accidentally found some items that made him tougher. I'm not even joking about how badly I can't remember those two games. Hell I can remember the eight hours or so I played of FFXIII pretty clearly, but the plot of those two games escapes me. I know in FFXIII Lightning was very angry and looking for her sister, then she found her sister and everyone became a criminal on the run. Not remembering the plot from Star Ocean is one thing, since I'm pretty sure I hated everything that wasn't the really fun combat in it, but I don't get why I forgot what happened in Vesperia. Maybe it was just really standard.
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Apr 10, 2011 19:58
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not really played the Tales game a lot but I'm led to believe that all of them have very standard, predictable RPG plots.
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Apr 10, 2011 20:02
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CommissarMega posted:EDIT: Is there any other reason to play on Absurd, other than increased difficulty? Nah. It's just if you really want to test how well you can micromanage the game's combat and skill systems. That's what I like about TSE2: if you get stuck in an area, the solution, more often than not, isn't to grind like a madman, but to adjust your tactics or respec some of your points into different skills. Even the item choices you make are significant. I'll completely agree about the characters, as well. Mark Pay went to great lengths to make their interactions believable and unique, which adds some great replay value, since it's genuinely interesting to see how the various characters play off of eachother. I'm genuinely disappointed that he's stopped making games, since he's got such an excellent feel for balance and fun. It's a true shame he's never made much money off of his ventures.
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Vermain posted:Nah. It's just if you really want to test how well you can micromanage the game's combat and skill systems. That's what I like about TSE2: if you get stuck in an area, the solution, more often than not, isn't to grind like a madman, but to adjust your tactics or respec some of your points into different skills. Even the item choices you make are significant. Ah, right then. Looks like I'm going to start my next game on easy then; Denever/Kaltos/Charlotte party, maybe. Any interesting character combos? I know Kaltos and Charlotte get together and Denever and Ionae find themselves dealing with mortality; anyone else? Does Enshadu shine with anyone? Because I didn't really find him all that interesting with Kaltos and Charlotte in the party. The parties I've made are: 1: Denever/Ionae/PyanPau 2: Kaltos/Charlotte/Enshadu 3: Mericious/Ferwin/Grace (a.k.a. Team Get Along) If anyone has any better combo ideas, I'm all ears. EDIT: And yeah, it's a crying shame that Mark's stopped making games. If I could, I'd organize a :goonrush: to give him money, but I guess it might be too late now
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Apr 11, 2011 03:51
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Enshadu's pretty self-contained since he's a Mysterious Dude. Mericious and PyanPau have some religious banter every so often. There's nothing especially dramatic that changes in the game depending on who you pick, but they all have their own separate banter at certain places, which is an incredibly nice change from the typical "select your party" RPG experience. I personally went with Kaltos/Charlotte/Enshadu on my first runthrough. It's quite interesting trying to make an imperfect party and see how well you can do, though, since it dramatically changes how you handle certain encounters. (Notably, not having a Musketeer makes things incredibly hard because of how great Powder Imps are.)
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Vermain posted:Enshadu's pretty self-contained since he's a Mysterious Dude. Mericious and PyanPau have some religious banter every so often. There's nothing especially dramatic that changes in the game depending on who you pick, but they all have their own separate banter at certain places, which is an incredibly nice change from the typical "select your party" RPG experience. I know not a lot of dialogue changes, but what does change is very well done. Like the scene when you first enter Porto Vale, where the Blue and Yellow characters have a conversation- that's very well done. Especially Mericious and Ferwin's conversation; that was really nice. And Inonae and Denever's conversation during the endgame (you know the one) pulled more strings for me emotionally than most top RPGs nowadays. Makes me wondr what the gently caress else I'm missing out on. Vermain posted:I personally went with Kaltos/Charlotte/Enshadu on my first runthrough. It's quite interesting trying to make an imperfect party and see how well you can do, though, since it dramatically changes how you handle certain encounters. (Notably, not having a Musketeer makes things incredibly hard because of how great Powder Imps are.) Grace doesn't have Powder Imps, and Mericious doesn't start with Heal. That was an... interesting party to start one's Hard game on  For the first time, I started leveling up Smokescreen.
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Heres one I have not seen mentioned yet: Legend of Legaia. The story is that the entire world has been covered in this Mist that turns people into monsters and the three heros have to revive ten Genesis Trees. They do this with the power of these braceres called the Ra-Seru. These allow the heros to fight the Seru and revive the Genesis Trees. What made this game unique was the the battle system. it resembled a fighting game. In order to attack you inputed a combo of High and low punches and kicks. Inputting the right combos set off a special attack, I think they had to be found for yourself. And as you leveled up you could then chain longer combos together. Im not sure this has aged well since I have not played it since I rented it back in middle school but I would like to give it another shot.
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BigRed0427 posted:Im not sure this has aged well since I have not played it since I rented it back in middle school but I would like to give it another shot. It is hard as absolute gently caress, especially at the beginning. Do not mess with the tree in the starting village, it can trigger an optional bossfight that will mess you up. Keep putting in new attack patterns constantly or check a guide, as the patterns your attacks are in determine if you learn new combos and moves. The sequel is horrible.
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