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Lurchibles posted:Was that actually any good? I heard mixed things... It's dirt cheap on Amazon but the user-review thing (star rating) is incredibly low! From what I remember with the low review scores is that a lot of people went into it expecting it to be more like an action game. Also the pc version is buggy as poo poo I hear, so pick it up for a console. You can probably find it pretty cheap. It starts off slow, but gets fun as hell as you start pulling off bad rear end spy poo poo. It's worth a couple of playthroughs as the story branches off based on conversation choices. Playing as a dick is highly entertaining.
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BigRed0427 posted:I havn't played DA2, what is it that pisses you guys off so much about it? That said, some of the party members are actually really well done, and some of the combat elements could have been spectacular if they had put in enough time to refine the system. As it stands, you basically mash X (or autoattack) and wait a long time for your ability cooldowns while watching the screen get covered in explosions of gore that attempt to conceal the lack of gameplay or strategy. Corin Tucker's Stalker fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Apr 17, 2011 |
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Apr 17, 2011 22:47
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BigRed0427 posted:I havn't played DA2, what is it that pisses you guys off so much about it? I think the question is what doesn't DA2 do to piss people off
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BigRed0427 posted:I havn't played DA2, what is it that pisses you guys off so much about it? Because now I get to be scared that the people who made DA2 will touch Mass Effect 3.
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Apr 17, 2011 23:10
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:That said, some of the party members are actually really well done, Varric and Aveline are awesome. The rest are deeply terrible in some way or another. Additionally, it's the absolute worst game I've seen yet at making your opinions or character building actually matter.
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I'd like to highly recommend Neir to anyone who misses the good olde days of a solid story, aspergian grinding (99% optional), and pretty good combat system. It is like Shadow of the Colossus in sense of stroy but with more enemies and the grinding subquests of FFX.
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:reused a very limited number of areas in amazingly uncreative ways It really can't be overstated how lazy they got with the levels. I read a review that mentioned that before I got the game and figured it was just the usual hyperbole, but holy hell it was the opposite. To give you an example: They have one loving cave map for every single cave in the game. The way they change it up is by having 2-3 branches in the cave and blocking certain branches off with plain grey doors/panels that look so god drat out of place that you'll think they're kidding. But the rest of the cave will be literally the same exact cave as the last one you were in. I usually don't care about things like that, but all you loving do in the first half of the game (as far as I got) is go through loving caves, and seeing literally the same exact one a dozen times gets old quick. Also you spend a bunch of time in the beginning of the game in this big City doing quests and poo poo to get enough money to go on some epic expedition to some mysterious underground passage. So 10 hours later you're done doing quests, you're ready to move on, and so you go on the expedition and.... this epic, glorious expedition which they've been talking up all god drat game takes like an hour MAX to go through because it's just a couple of maps that you run through before reaching the big boss. Everything before/after is just loving cutscenes telling you how much time you've spent getting there. At one point your characters have to make their way back from the deep underground passage that you're in, so they just have a cutscene where, and I'm not kidding, they just say "Whelp we made it back, and in only 5 days, yay!" Then you have another cutscene, a loving year passes, and you're thrown back into the same loving city that you're sick and loving tired of by that point to do more loving quests because even though you've become ludicrously rich(which we know because a loving cutscene tells you), you're still everyone's loving errand boy. Jesus, I didn't realize how much that game pissed me off until I started writing this. VDay fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Apr 17, 2011 |
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Bigass Moth posted:I'd like to highly recommend Neir to anyone who misses the good olde days of a solid story, aspergian grinding (99% optional), and pretty good combat system. It is like Shadow of the Colossus in sense of stroy but with more enemies and the grinding subquests of FFX. Not to mention some of the best voice acting and music Ive ever heard in a video game.
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Node posted:Whoever told you it is worse story wise is a dumbass, because no one plays those games for the story. In Armored Princess, the hero is female: a strike against immersion and believability if I ever heard one!
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Evoq posted:Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. If you haven't played it already, try Barkley: Shut Up and Jam Gaiden. I guarantee that you won't regret it.
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VDay posted:It really can't be overstated how lazy they got with the levels. I read a review that mentioned that before I got the game and figured it was just the usual hyperbole, but holy hell it was the opposite.
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Evoq posted:Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. Wendell posted:I got Lunar: Silver Star Harmony off the PSN (19.99, not bad), and it feels so good to be playing this again. I'm actually amazed how much of the game I remember since I last played it when the PSX version was new, right down to individual townsfolk having familiar dialogue. I kinda wish I had my PSP so I could replay this.
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Amazon's Video Game Deal of the Day is a shitton of Atlus games (and a couple NIS games I guess) today including Radiant Historia, Demon's Souls, Persona 3 and 4 . . . (Lots of games I already bought of course.  ) Go check it out if there're any Atlus-shaped holes in your gaming collection.
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Is Ar Tonelcio Qoga as crappy as it looks?
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Meme Emulator posted:Is Ar Tonelcio Qoga as crappy as it looks?
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Zereth posted:Is that the one where the girls taking off clothes mid-battle is a game mechanic? Isnt that The Third Birthday?
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Meme Emulator posted:Isnt that The Third Birthday? And I just did some checking, and yes: Qoga is the one where the girls taking off clothes in the middle of battle is a game mechanic. I think I can confidently say it's at least as crappy as you think it is without looking into it any further than that.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Yeah the stories aren't really noteworthy at all. AP has better balanced out a lot of things, but I personally much prefer The Legend's area layouts and overall pacing better.
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Ice Blue posted:Wasn't the translation completely different due to the fact that it wasn't done by Working Designs? It should have had a lot less pop culture references. I knew I was recognizing lines, but I thought it was strange since it had to be a new translation so I looked into it. They stuck with the Working Designs translation for the most part, but took out any 90s pop culture references and of course did their own translation for the brief new scenes. Edit: I just youtubed Ar Tonelico Qoga and it's disgusting. I did not need to see a naked 12 year old in my youtube video. Anyone who plays this should be on a watch list. Wendell fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Apr 18, 2011 |
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VDay posted:DA2
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Lemur Crisis posted:I'd say it's worth a rental or whatever for people who like the combat system. For what it's worth, I did get through the first act just fine; it was the second act and then on that it really became soul-sapping to try to put up with, as I looked at the entire town crawling with sidequests to the same drat locations and just went 'urrrrrrgh I don't care anymore'.
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Stelas posted:For what it's worth, I did get through the first act just fine; it was the second act and then on that it really became soul-sapping to try to put up with, as I looked at the entire town crawling with sidequests to the same drat locations and just went 'urrrrrrgh I don't care anymore'. The combat "waves" are so soul destroying, especially because they get harder. I was holding off the better moves for waves that never came sometime, or waves that kept coming other times. Ended up installing a mod to reduce cooldowns, made it slightly more bearable!
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I didn't have much of a problem with waves in and of themselves - having a rogue and a couple stacked mages made most things blow up real quick - so much as the way they would always ambush you and basically negate any sensible strategic positioning you could possibly do. It just contributed to the button-mash feel; you couldn't smartly maneuver your way a single battle.
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Meme Emulator posted:Is Ar Tonelcio Qoga as crappy as it looks? Ar Tonelico 2 is really, really good if you can get past some of the camp. Qoga is loving terrible.
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Yeah, I've put a few hours into Qoga but it hasn't grabbed me at all. Not even the combat can save it, it's so basic.
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I'm trying to play through Qoga because man, I really do like most of Gust's stuff and the glory days of Mana Khemia especially, but it's just dire. I can't even enjoy it as a dumb trainwreck because it constantly and relentlessly makes you feel seriously uncomfortable. All the kind-of-dumb-and-charming innuendo has instead been given the subtlety and grace of a sledgehammer.
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Am I the only person who really enjoyed Final Fantasy X? I do yearly playthroughs just because i find it to be so much fun. I loved the turnbased combat, the graphics are still decent, and bender stars in it. The story is dumb but as the first ( and last, besides 13 which i couldnt inish) FF game i ever played, i have very fond memories. Its like Oblivion for me, I feel like I was the only one who enjoyed it. EDIT: Oh i forgot the sphere grid. Probably the best part of the game. Galactic fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 19, 2011 |
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The combat was a good base but it just didn't give you enough interesting strategic decisions.
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S Danger K posted:Am I the only person who really enjoyed Final Fantasy X? I do yearly playthroughs just because i find it to be so much fun. I loved the turnbased combat, the graphics are still decent, and bender stars in it. The story is dumb but as the first ( and last, besides 13 which i couldnt inish) FF game i ever played, i have very fond memories. Its like Oblivion for me, I feel like I was the only one who enjoyed it. It was the first Final Fantasy game I played. I got ahold of an International copy my friend stole from some place and I went back to the first town to get something I missed and ended up encountering the dark Valefor. The only way I could beat him was to throw most of my money at Yojimbo to do the instant death attack he has. When I got my own PS2 one of the games I got was FFX.
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I've been pretty disappointed with every final fantasy game after 9 (I didn't really care for 8 much, either, but it was okay). They seem to have set aside exploration, character development and sidequests for wierd stories and "maps" that are more like corridors where you run from point A to point B, kill things on the way, then watch cutscenes; rinse, repeat. The combat systems are cool, and the graphics are spectacular, but that's really the only thing they've got going for them. My favorite Final Fantasy game still is, and will likely always be, FF3 on the SNES. A huge world with tons of optional side stuff waiting to be explored, some of the deepest and most interesting characters in any game, a fantastic storyline, a genuinely interesting setting and a bunch of cool optional (and some hidden) characters. When I first played it, I probably dumped more than twenty hours into that game, thinking I'd finally gotten to the end and was about to beat it. Then the world ends, and you play a whole new game for at least another good twenty hours! It really is a fantastic game. The only other game that still holds a candle to it is Chrono Trigger. A fun story with likeable characters, time-travelling mechanics that actually make meaningful changes in different eras depending on what you do and can give you any one of about a dozen different endings, some of the best music of any 16-bit era RPG, and lots of side stuff to be found through exploration. I still play through both of these games like once every couple years 
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MelvinTheJerk posted:Ar Tonelico 2 is really, really good if you can get past some of the camp. Are we calling it "camp" now? Ever since Paul Reubens was arrested, I thought "kitsch" was the accepted euphemism.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Are we calling it "camp" now? Ever since Paul Reubens was arrested, I thought "kitsch" was the accepted euphemism. What do either of these terms even mean?
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On the subject of awful RPGs, playing Star Ocean: The Last Hope at the moment It's enjoyable.
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Jadz posted:My favorite Final Fantasy game still is, and will likely always be, FF3 on the SNES. A huge world with tons of optional side stuff waiting to be explored, some of the deepest and most interesting characters in any game, a fantastic storyline, a genuinely interesting setting and a bunch of cool optional (and some hidden) characters. Good news man! You just made a friend! Me! I'm the friend!
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Doc Hawkins posted:Are we calling it "camp" now? Ever since Paul Reubens was arrested, I thought "kitsch" was the accepted euphemism. For what it's worth, this review by our very own Sam Bishop is spot on and crystalizes my thoughts on the game perfectly. http://totalplaystation.com/ps2/ar-tonelico-ii-melody-of-metafalica/reviews/8185/
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Jadz posted:... With the exception of the first paragraph (I actually liked the change of pace that XII's combat system brought, especially since you could set up your own gambits), I agree with the poster above. FF3/FF6 gets a playthrough a year, Chrono Trigger about every eighteen months (though with the DS remake, that might become a yearly thing until/if FF6DS is released).
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Polite Tim posted:On the subject of awful RPGs, playing Star Ocean: The Last Hope at the moment I played Til the End of Time on PS2 when it came out. Besides the absurd twist at the end it was a decent game. I played The Last Hope when it came out and hated everything about it, I guess my childhood accepted anime a lot more then my adult self.
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Are there any good iPad RPG's worth playing? Super Brothers looks fun but I fear it may be style over content.
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aversion posted:Are there any good iPad RPG's worth playing? Super Brothers looks fun but I fear it may be style over content. Dungeon Raid is a puzzler/RPG, dunno if it works for IPAD but I got it for my phone a few days ago and I am hooked. Goonmade too if that matters http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3401319
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