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So I've played the hell out of pretty much all the Infinity Engine games and just recently got myself a MacBook. Now, it's no PC (oooh, burn... etc) and I do like me some gaming from time to time, so I bought CrossOver and have got a couple things to work on it, but was wondering if there are any good RPGs that work natively on the Mac (finished KOTOR so no love there, and I tire of Diablo after 10 minutes), so maybe you can suggest a decent GOG game or a Mac-native RPG for someone who loved the Inifnity Engine titles, the Neverwinter Nights games, Dragon Quest IX on the DS, seriously dislikes random encounter combat, favours stories over Diablo style number games, and so on. Lately I've been playing the hell out of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and 5. Love that series. Maybe it is time for me to try TOEE again, after all these years (last time I got stuck with some bug when you had to kill a giant frog or some-such in a swamp. Couldn't search it when it was killed, so I could not progress with the game). Also, Planescape. Hmmm... played maybe 10-12 hours of this back in 2008 and that's a lot to get through all over again, so while I know it is World Best RPG Story and I am living in sin by not having finished it, I dunno if I can go there just yet. Suggestions? BadAstronaut fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 17, 2011 |
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The only thing I can say against Romancing SaGa is that it's really unintuitive and can be kick-you-in-the-balls hard if you don't go out of your way to exploit the mechanics. Some games, I'm cool with doing that. RS is not one of those games, so while people will tell you "oh yeah that last boss? SO. EASY. Look all you have to do is level your Water Magic proficiency up to 40 or higher and then buy this very specific spell for said character who also has to have 50 Bows proficiency, and know this one particular tech, and you'll beat him before he even gets a turn! Oh, what, you don't have that? Well, you're up poo poo creek then, buddy," your mileage will invariably vary.
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SpazmasterX posted:Xenogears When in battle, it looks like you only have four commands. Press right on the D-pad. Surprise! You actually have seven. To add a few more details about the gear battles, every turn you attack without using a Deathblow your attack level will increase by one, up to level 3 (other actions won't increase your level). The Deathblows you use in your gear are learned at the same time your characters learn their "on foot" Deathblows. This means that if you haven't been using a character much, i.e. benched Rico the moment the opportunity arose, they might not be able to reach attack level 3. Something to be aware of. Like SpazmasterX said, once your characters reach 7AP, they can achieve attack level Infinity in their gear. If a gear can reach Infinity, there will be a percentage next to Hyper Mode at the right of the screen (at the beginning of the game, this will always say 0%). The default is usually 5%, and this number rises as you lose HP, so if your HP is in the red, you'll be at around 40-50%. If you end a turn at attack level 3 without using a Deathblow, you have that percentage chance of hitting level Infinity. Unlike raising your other attack levels, you can just charge your fuel, activate your booster, or heal yourself and you'll still get a chance to level up. Once you hit level Infinity, you get three turns of insanely powerful attacks. Or you can waste your turn by recharging fuel. Only downside to level Infinity is that your party members' super moves are elemental, and can heal certain bosses.  Aside from one or two battles, it's a good idea to use your Booster at the beginning of a gear boss battle.
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From the PS2 era, the .hack franchise may be my favroite...I guess you could say concept for a RPG. If you never played it, your a kid playing a MMORPG with your friend when your both suddenly attacked by a monster that kills you both and causes your computer to crash. YOu call your friend up to ask him the gently caress just happened and find out he just fell into a coma. Plus, your character in the MMO now has a game breaking glitch that allows you to go into off limits areas of the game world. THe goal is to figure out what the monster, and others like it is; what the bracelet; what happened to your friend and what the gently caress is wrong with this game. Along the way, mysterious people and various other friends join your quest. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 18, 2011 |
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May 18, 2011 00:00
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BigRed0427 posted:From the PS2 era, the .hack franchise may be my favroite...I guess you could say concept for a RPG. It's like if you combined a roguelike with a MMORPG, but made it singleplayer. The story was pretty interesting, and at least isn't 'Supervillian/evil corporation wants to destroy the world. You, a nameless kid from some backwards town is the Chosen One to stop the evil plan'
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May 18, 2011 00:03
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BigRed0427 posted:From the PS2 era, the .hack franchise may be my favroite...I guess you could say concept for a RPG. Well if nothing else, it was certainly a clever money-making gimmick.
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May 18, 2011 00:04
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:I rate it a fair bit lower than Oath because of really, really serious balance issues and the fact that only Thor gets to actually fight the final boss (meaning you have to play through the game 3 times to even fight it). Also I felt like Hugo was an absolute chore to play, completely unfun and laughably easy even on Hard mode. Still pretty darn good all things considered. I'm curious, what do you mean by balance issues? As in the bosses not progressing in difficulty? I can agree with that, since I remember one of the first bosses being one of the hardest by a long shot. I didn't mind playing as Hugo though, I thought the change of pace in playstyle was pretty cool. I found Yunika the least fun to play as myself (plus she's the most annoying story-wise too). I'm glad I got her story out of the way first. Anyhow I think I'll take a shot at Ys 6 and reinstall it. Now that I remember it had trouble with XP for some reason, maybe it'll work better now that I've upgraded. Edit: Also, as for Hugo being easy, it is worth noting that that was deliberate--it does say "geared toward beginners" under the character select when picking him. Genpei Turtle fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 18, 2011 |
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May 18, 2011 00:05
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I remember putting the first .hack game in my PS2 some time last year, wandering around a couple hours in the randomly generated worlds and... then I think I just forgot about it. It's a series I've always thought about playing through but considering the first one is composed of four games alone, I think I'd really have to be in the mood to get through them in any length of time. Do they mix things up between games or does it stay relatively the same throughout?
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May 18, 2011 00:06
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iastudent posted:I remember putting the first .hack game in my PS2 some time last year, wandering around a couple hours in the randomly generated worlds and... then I think I just forgot about it. relativity the same, but as you progress the game world starts to breakdown, so you incounter alot of glitched out fights and some more colorful areas to explore.
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May 18, 2011 00:09
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U-DO Burger posted:More Xenogears Also worth noting is that the Holy Pendant accessory will secretly give you 6 turns of Attack Level Infinity. Gears have Special Options but they're almost all useless (but cool looking and should be used at least once) outside of Fix Frame HP, Vierge's Aerods, and Fei's second gear's System option, and the best gear in the game has a permanent 99% chance of Hyper Mode and all its' Infinity attacks are non-elemental.
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May 18, 2011 00:10
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BigRed0427 posted:relativity the same, but as you progress the game world starts to breakdown, so you incounter alot of glitched out fights and some more colorful areas to explore. Also the next series (G.U.) looks better, and has a more robust combat system. The story is more.... dramatic? more of an impact at least, if you've played the previous 4 games though.
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May 18, 2011 00:12
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BadAstronaut posted:So I've played the hell out of pretty much all the Infinity Engine games and just recently got myself a MacBook. Now, it's no PC (oooh, burn... etc) and I do like me some gaming from time to time, so I bought CrossOver and have got a couple things to work on it, but was wondering if there are any good RPGs that work natively on the Mac (finished KOTOR so no love there, and I tire of Diablo after 10 minutes), so maybe you can suggest a decent GOG game or a Mac-native RPG for someone who loved the Inifnity Engine titles, the Neverwinter Nights games, Dragon Quest IX on the DS, seriously dislikes random encounter combat, favours stories over Diablo style number games, and so on. Lately I've been playing the hell out of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and 5. Love that series. Have you by any chance given Arcanum, Betrayal at Krondor or Arx Fatalis a shot? All three are available on GOG. Although I'd recommend Arcanum over the bunch, while not brimming with story does have some interesting side quests and a much more fleshed out atmosphere than most other RPGs. Plus the soundtrack is fantastic.
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SpazmasterX posted:Also worth noting is that the Holy Pendant accessory will secretly give you 6 turns of Attack Level Infinity. Gears have Special Options but they're almost all useless (but cool looking and should be used at least once) outside of Fix Frame HP, Vierge's Aerods, and Fei's second gear's System option, and the best gear in the game has a permanent 99% chance of Hyper Mode and all its' Infinity attacks are non-elemental. Xenogears has some hyper awesome overlookable and hugely missable accessories. With the right setup you can drop one of your characters out of their gear and take down gear sized opponents. The benefit to this is that you dont waste fuel and gear sized opponents have a tendency to ignore characters on foot as long as there are other gears around. The elemental doubler on Emeralda could let her do decent damage to gears with her ether attacks, and the Power crisis in particular if given to a character with only 1hp could boost their damage into psychotic ranges. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR3wDw6CElU I believe the speed shoes accesory also put your gears into auto boost when worn.
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Wow, xenogears does sound incredibly interesting now. Can't wait to get to battles, only about 30 mins in so far.
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^ Huh, you should be able to get into a few encounters by then. Its intro is a little long-winded, but it's nothing at all like the XS games. that's what disc 2 is forTheOriginalEd posted:I believe the speed shoes accesory also put your gears into auto boost when worn. Haha on man yes it does, and it doesn't cost extra fuel per turn, either, so it synergizes excellently with the 100-strength Engine that only has 1000 fuel. I read about this one when I was trying seriously to beat XG about ten years ago, I had to retry the Hammer fight a dozen times before I was able to get the Collector's Card off of him so I could actually get those to even just drop in the first place. There were indeed some pretty nuts setups, but I mean incidentally and probably kind of predictably considering one of my biggest bullet points on "hey is this RPG enjoyable?" my favorite part was naming my Gears. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 01:22 on May 18, 2011 |
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casual poster posted:Wow, xenogears does sound incredibly interesting now. Can't wait to get to battles, only about 30 mins in so far. The game doesn't really start until you get out of Blackmoon forest. Do yourself a favor and grind up Fei and Citan to level 16 before you get to the next town so they can learn their Square X Deathblows. It'll just make your life easier. And yeah you get free boost in Gears if you have the Speed Shoes. Also, heh scrublords that need to use a Power Crisis on black dragons. I was grinding Fei solo on black dragons just to get him high enough to learn Yamikei.
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one last sperg about xenogears, in the beginning forest, make sure and toast hobs as much as possible with elly's fire spell while you can. This causes them to drop hobsteak which heals for about 500 and sells for a premium later on.
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May 18, 2011 01:28
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TheOriginalEd posted:one last sperg about xenogears, in the beginning forest, make sure and toast hobs as much as possible with elly's fire spell while you can. This causes them to drop hobsteak which heals for about 500 and sells for a premium later on. Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten about that. Even just getting jerky from them is a good reason to slap around a couple dozen.
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May 18, 2011 01:32
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casual poster posted:Wow, xenogears does sound incredibly interesting now. Can't wait to get to battles, only about 30 mins in so far. At the beginning of the game, you can grab a ring from the garden at Citan's house. Also, you can get a Mermaid Tear from the bar in Lahan (do this before going to Citan's house). The window of time you can get these is pretty narrow, so hopefully you haven't already missed them.
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May 18, 2011 01:39
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U-DO Burger posted:At the beginning of the game, you can grab a ring from the garden at Citan's house. Also, you can get a Mermaid Tear from the bar in Lahan (do this before going to Citan's house). The window of time you can get these is pretty narrow, so hopefully you haven't already missed them. Just because I could sperg about Xenogears all day every day: The ring from Citan's house will get you a second Hercules Ring (1.5x XP), and the Mermaid Tear is for the Mermaid Ring (Magic power and Def up) for females. But the proest party is Fei, Citan, and Billy soooo
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SpazmasterX posted:But the proest party is Fei, Citan, and Billy soooo I dunno, I seem to recall Billy's Gear being kinda unimpressive.
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SpazmasterX posted:Just because I could sperg about Xenogears all day every day: The ring from Citan's house will get you a second Hercules Ring (1.5x XP), and the Mermaid Tear is for the Mermaid Ring (Magic power and Def up) for females. But the proest party is Fei, Citan, and Billy soooo Fei, Citan and Emeralda. Billy's got nothing on her speed and stat growth. 
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Genpei Turtle posted:I'm curious, what do you mean by balance issues? As in the bosses not progressing in difficulty? I can agree with that, since I remember one of the first bosses being one of the hardest by a long shot. I didn't mind playing as Hugo though, I thought the change of pace in playstyle was pretty cool. I found Yunika the least fun to play as myself (plus she's the most annoying story-wise too). I'm glad I got her story out of the way first. Yeah that's exactly what I mean. The game difficulty is all over the place, and drops off really, really hard near the end of the game once you get the Burst ability. I can't recall ever having to learn anything about Xava because I just activated Burst and then mashed on her till she died, even on Hard. I always found the hardest boss to be the one in the desert with the quicksand and all that. Yunika was my favorite to play, but her balance was even worse. Her fire sword is just crazy overpowered. I'll give Origins another huge thing, it made a water level that not only doesn't suck, but is actually really fun and my favorite area of the game.
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The White Dragon posted:I dunno, I seem to recall Billy's Gear being kinda unimpressive. Its' Ether gun and elemental shields are really handy, and Fei and Citan's gears more than make up for its' shortcomings. Where he really shines is on foot, thanks to his healing, revival, and haste spells. I mean, if Gear performance is super important we can talk about how awesome Siebzehn is while Maria is the worst party member in the history of forever. 
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SpazmasterX posted:Its' Ether gun and elemental shields are really handy, and Fei and Citan's gears more than make up for its' shortcomings. Where he really shines is on foot, thanks to his healing, revival, and haste spells. Maria on foot is hilarious. It's like they asked themselves: how effective would a little girl REALLY be against freakish monsters? When she first joins in Shevat, I killed her off and spent most of my time building up Fei and Citan to unholy levels.
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The White Dragon posted:I dunno, I seem to recall Billy's Gear being kinda unimpressive. Of course the ultimate Ether Doubler situation is Elly. Nothing like laying waste to all bosses effortlessly with Aerods.
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TooManyUzukis posted:Maria on foot is hilarious. It's like they asked themselves: how effective would a little girl REALLY be against freakish monsters? When she first joins in Shevat, I killed her off and spent most of my time building up Fei and Citan to unholy levels. brb summoning my 50 meter tall giant robot in this air duct
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TooManyUzukis posted:Maria on foot is hilarious. It's like they asked themselves: how effective would a little girl REALLY be against freakish monsters? When she first joins in Shevat, I killed her off and spent most of my time building up Fei and Citan to unholy levels. Despite this though, she displays the most peculiar ability to stand perfectly still on top of a mech's head. The mech that has attacks that ram into enemies headfirst. Say what you will about her combat prowess in the on foot battles, but that kid's loving resilient.
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May 18, 2011 02:42
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U-DO Burger posted:Fei, Citan and Emeralda. Billy's got nothing on her speed and stat growth. quoted for pro tier party gently caress I love Xenogears, possibly my favourite game ever. Really want to replay that now as well, so many games so little time 
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BigRed0427 posted:From the PS2 era, the .hack franchise may be my favroite...I guess you could say concept for a RPG. In retrospect the game had a lot of lazy design, but since it was done "on purpose" to pad the game since you're playing an MMO in game, it was pretty cool. The game itself was a grind and the level design could have been better. I've only played the first one so I don't really know what the second through fourth game add to the series but I can't imagine it being that different. Can someone elaborate on this? If it doesn't change much I can imagine the game could have benefited from being cut down to two games. I never got into GU. Was that really good? Or more of the same except with more crazy plot and tweaked gameplay? casual poster posted:Wow, xenogears does sound incredibly interesting now. Can't wait to get to battles, only about 30 mins in so far. Plus the gears themselves were so awesome. As for as characters go, what do you guys think of Chu? I remember her being pretty insane because her "gear" form stats are based on her normal stats so using items to boost her stats permanently also made her gear form insane. Plus she doesn't need fuel. Ice Blue fucked around with this message at 10:15 on May 18, 2011 |
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Ice Blue posted:As for as characters go, what do you guys think of Chu? It was cool that she had a healing spell that could heal your Gears, but aside from that I never really used her enough that her healing spell was very effective in battle. Too lazy to buy a thousand kilos of DRIVE from Big Joe, I guess. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 10:30 on May 18, 2011 |
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Ice Blue posted:As for as characters go, what do you guys think of Chu? I remember her being pretty insane because her "gear" form stats are based on her normal stats so using items to boost her stats permanently also made her gear form insane. Plus she doesn't need fuel. one of the worst things about the game for me, just didn't seem to fit with the setting and tone at all really. Pretty easy to ignore though, and there are so many loving badass characters so I just forgot about her
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Chu Chu's greatest contribution to the series was saving everyone during the flight scene. The music was epic.
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I just got a DS, what are some good RPGs for it?
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WrightOfWay posted:I just got a DS, what are some good RPGs for it? Speaking of DS RPGs, anyone know if the Sonic RPG was any good? What about the Valkyrie Profile game? Here's some more I heard about but don't know much about : Etrian Odyssey series SMT Devil Survivor Avalon Code Ice Blue fucked around with this message at 11:13 on May 18, 2011 |
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May 18, 2011 11:07
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WrightOfWay posted:I just got a DS, what are some good RPGs for it? edit: here's the thread on it http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3391821
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Ice Blue posted:Speaking of DS RPGs, anyone know if the Sonic RPG was any good? What about the Valkyrie Profile game? The Valkyrie Profile game is a strategy RPG, unlike the console games in the series. However, there's little to no grinding since the maps you do for the story are pretty much the only maps in the game. There's maybe one side map per chapter that's optional if you want levels. The standard series battle system is still there and awesome, and it's still tough to get the best ending. I recommend it, I had a ton of fun playing it.
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Alright so I didn't grab the ring from citan's garden cause I was looking for a large garden, not a small square. The gears just attacked the village and I finally have control of Fei again. Am I still able to get the ring or should I just restart? The pay off for getting the ring seems worth it, but i'd have to go through a good amount of cutscenes.
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WrightOfWay posted:I just got a DS, what are some good RPGs for it? Chrono Trigger Dragon Quest IV Dragon Quest V Dragon Quest VI Dragon Quest IX Final Fantasy IV Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story SMT: Devil Survivor SMT: Strange Journey The World Ends With You A lot of remakes! I left off FFIII because I didn't like it very much, and Partners In Time because most people said it was mediocre (I didn't play it). casual poster posted:Alright so I didn't grab the ring from citan's garden cause I was looking for a large garden, not a small square. The gears just attacked the village and I finally have control of Fei again. Am I still able to get the ring or should I just restart? The pay off for getting the ring seems worth it, but i'd have to go through a good amount of cutscenes. The only thing I wish I had known really prior to playing Xenogears the first time was info on a certain boss on Disc 2: After this boss receives a certain amount of damage, it will countdown to a self-destruction. You do NOT want to let the boss self-destruct, because if it does so you will not get a really awesome item called the Trader's Card. As for favorite parties, I think without a doubt the on-foot party has to be Fei/Citan/Billy. Billy's support skills are just too useful. But for Gears, I would probably indeed give the nod to Fei/Citan/Emeralda. E: Also I'm going to repost my blurb on Deathblows currently on beforeiplay, only because I feel like SpazmasterX's explanation is a little complicated: "Fight your non-boss, non-Gear battles the following way unless you run into trouble: cycle through EVERY possible Square, Triangle, and X combination that does not end with a X . This is because ending something in a X will start a Deathblow. So if you have 4 AP, you should do: Round 1: T-T-T-T Round 2: T-T-S Round 3: T-S-T Round 4: S-T-T Round 5: S-S Round 6: X-T Round 7: Repeat Adjust the pattern as you get more AP, and of course if the battle ends before you reach the end just try to remember where you left off last battle. This is important because you will optimize your Deathblow learning efficiency, and will in fact master Deathblows before they are even available to you. Since Deathblows are largely more important than leveling up, this will save you a lot of time grinding or otherwise wasting your time trying to learn Deathblows." And if it wasn't clear, each of these cycles would be independent for each character (since everyone learns Deathblows individually, of course). Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 13:57 on May 18, 2011 |
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