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casual poster posted:I've seen this many times today, is it some type of in-joke that I'm not going? Bad translation or something? It's her motto, and I'm fairly sure it's one of her only voiced lines in the game - she's predominantly a silent heroine in P2:EP.
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Ice Phisherman posted:I've played a huge number of RPG's. I'm currently looking for a modern day RPG, preferably PC platform. I just got done with the Witcher 2 and as fun as that was, I'd like to try something with less swords and magic. You try any of the Fallout games? No swords OR magic there and they're very well regarded.
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Ice Phisherman posted:I've played a huge number of RPG's. I'm currently looking for a modern day RPG, preferably PC platform. I just got done with the Witcher 2 and as fun as that was, I'd like to try something with less swords and magic. Overall great games in my opinion. Ice Blue fucked around with this message at 07:05 on May 25, 2011 |
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May 25, 2011 07:03
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Would you guys recommend Fallout New Vegas without playing 3?
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Unfortunately, you've already played the best non-swords-and-magic PC RPG, VtMB. I also don't like swords and magic, but I still enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins. Even though it's very typical swords-and-magic, it's presented well, it's engaging, paced well and the combat can be very fun if you're willing to experiment. Edit: The STALKER series maybe? Not strictly speaking and RPG, but it has some elements.
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Tae posted:Would you guys recommend Fallout New Vegas without playing 3? Yes. I played 1 and 2 a lot, and when 3 came out I didn't like it very much and didn't make it too far in the game. Really enjoyed New Vegas, on the other hand, and there's really not much in NV referencing 3 (I don't really remember any references actually). I think there are actually more references to 1&2, but you don't need to have played them either to get the story.
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May 25, 2011 12:59
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Lone Rogue posted:It got average reviews and some people hate it but as an old school RPG fan, I got Glory of Heracles for $10 and enjoyed it, even if it was a bit easy. I'm playing through Dragon Quest V right now and it's loving perfect for my tastes. So I guess it all depends on what you like in your RPG. Never played Glory of Hercules, but I know it got bad reviews. From what I read, its a mediocre generic RPG. Definitely pick up Radiant Historia for the DS, probably the best game for the system, my favorite atleast. Also, the translation for Soma Bringer has been done for sometime, give that a look. Great action battle system and brilliant graphics from Level 5.
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May 25, 2011 13:06
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May 25, 2011 13:25
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Jesto posted:It's actually a pretty hilarious game when it comes to plot scenes. It goes even further than that, but I won't spoil. I liked the plot. I think my biggest complaint is they could have increased gameplay by making the Isles open ended in the end and adding some bonus quests. Otherwise, yeah, it's not a great RPG. But I got 30-35 hours out of it for $10. And that was retail. No idea if Gamestop still has it priced that low though.
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May 25, 2011 15:09
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Tae posted:Would you guys recommend Fallout New Vegas without playing 3? The two stories are almost completely unconnected and you're not missing anything from one by not playing the other.
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May 25, 2011 16:56
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Soma Bringer was by Monolith Soft. Which is why we never got it.
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May 25, 2011 17:31
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Tae posted:Would you guys recommend Fallout New Vegas without playing 3?
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May 25, 2011 18:50
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Rascyc posted:Yes. I'd go as far as to recommend only playing New Vegas at this point. Fallout 3 is great, but FO3 and FNV aren't connected at all in regards to storylines. In general, I like FNV slightly more.
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May 25, 2011 19:08
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Quite honestly, the only problems that I had with FO3 were the lack of first person iron sights (making me use vats way too much for a shooter) and that the game ended shittily. I could pass on everything else. However, playing FONV, seeing if I could creep all of the way to New Vegas at level two across deathclaw laden badlands with high stealth and some stealthboys was terror inducing. Far and away a better game.
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May 25, 2011 19:26
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NV's writing is pretty much superior in almost every way. But yeah aside from that, the general jist of the game is mostly the same.
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May 25, 2011 19:54
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Fallout New Vegas also makes melee stuff worth using! It's great. And although they are not as prominent as they were in Fallouts 1 and 2, they brought back low intelligence speech options, and I love it for that.
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Fallout 3 strongly pursues desolation and exploration as its main themes whereas NV is much heavier on writing and questing. That's not to say that exploration is worse in New Vegas, per se, just that there are plenty of things to distract you from it. NV has so many more quests and things to do than FO3 that it actually puts FO3 to shame in that respect, but some of the locations in FO3 are much more unique simply because of the history behind the setting.
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Tae posted:Would you guys recommend Fallout New Vegas without playing 3? 3 and New Vegas are basically identical when it comes to the engine. The big difference is story and game balance. The story in 3 is really, really bad. It's not laughably bad, it's just bland and tedious and easily broken. The story in New Vegas, on the other hand, is fantastic. There are lots of choices, and the game does a good job of drawing you in and making you feel as though your actions have real repercussions in the game world. As far as game balance goes, 3 is really easy to overpower if you know what you're doing. If you've never played a Fallout game before, it won't be much of an issue. If you have...it'll be hard to resist turning your character into a god. This is less pressing in New Vegas where the game stays balanced all the way through unless you are willing to sit through some really boring minmaxing charoptimization poo poo (I am, because walking around with 100 in most skills by level 15 is just too much fun). That being said, Fallout 3 is the real Fallout experience, from the Vault to the grave. New Vegas is keyed way more to fans of the Fallout series and contains a lot of detailed dialogue and history concerning the world which may not interest someone who's just jumped into the world. They are both quite a bit of fun, though I find 3 to be more forgiving to new players.
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The Black Stones posted:Soma Bringer was by Monolith Soft. Which is why we never got it. Damnit, your right. Can't believe I mixed that one up. EDIT: Here's something I found off neogaf, with all the Chrono Trigger talk recently I decided to throw it in. http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/219504/roleplayers-realm-iv-the-chrono-trigger-controversy/
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Goreld posted:I like to think MacBeth's soliloquy was really talking about the retarded Chrono storyline and JRPG's in general: ...You know, almost all humans literate in English are familiar with that line from MacBeth. Quoting it in full context is not a cool way to say that you're unimpressed with something, especially when that something is a japanese vidcon. In fact, doing so is a trite cliché well worth avoiding. I agree that Chrono Cross was a game with a complicated story, perhaps even an unnecessarily complicated one. But isn't that one of the most common traits of RPGs, period? casual poster posted:Here's something I found off neogaf, with all the Chrono Trigger talk recently I decided to throw it in. Hahaha! So the first claim this guy makes is that he finds Chrono Trigger insulting, because he was already in college when he started playing it, but right from the beginning, the hero is woken up by his mother in the house they share. He actually, literally, for real, uses the word "insulting," and it just gets better from there. Methinks he doth protest too much: he sounds suspiciously defensive on the subject of being an adult and being completely "unable to relate" to a teenage character. A character, I point out, for the none of you that haven't played the game, whose teenage-ness matters less than almost anything else about him. But gently caress you mom, I'm not a kid any more, you can't treat me like this! 
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Doc Hawkins posted:I agree that Chrono Cross was a game with a complicated story, perhaps even an unnecessarily complicated one. But isn't that one of the most common traits of RPGs, period? Chrono Cross, a game that tries to guilt you into feeling terrible about your time changing actions in Chrono Trigger. Yeah, it's pretty easy to tell why Chrono Cross' story failed on a lot of levels. It just tried to be too serious for its own good.
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I think CC really lost out by not having Toriyama (and the rest of the dream team for that matter). His style is pretty good for having high hearted atmosphere that is also able to convey more serious themes as well. CC didn't really have the same level of character that made CT great. I kinda think that if CC didn't have Mitsuda knock it out the park with music, it'd be even more universally shat on.
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Ice Blue posted:I think CC really lost out by not having Toriyama (and the rest of the dream team for that matter). His style is pretty good for having high hearted atmosphere that is also able to convey more serious themes as well. CC didn't really have the same level of character that made CT great. I kinda think that if CC didn't have Mitsuda knock it out the park with music, it'd be even more universally shat on. Don't forget the art and plot for Chronopolis and the Frozen Sea aka "Why you should play this game longer than you probably think it deserves" To be honest, I've never like Toriyama's work and I prefer the art style in Chrono Cross. It has this lovely tropical paradise outlook and the psuedo-watercolor makes it really unique and appealing visually in a lot of places. Shame the plot and scenarios and characters are terrible while the writing teeters ever on the edge between "atrocious" and "more vague than a blank piece of paper." At least you gave me a device to speed up time on NG+ so I could easily see your much smaller set of alternate endings.
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niggapolis posted:I loved Baten Kaitos, but it seems most people hated how much luck went into it. I liked the battle system because it was fairly strategic while also being very fast paced and in the late game it feels awesome to pull off crazy combos by thinking on your feet. Also had some nice setpieces. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVfEnLYpjkw Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 17:08 on May 26, 2011 |
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Rascyc posted:Chrono Trigger, a game about a group of teenagers, a frog and robot who go around and save the world in fun and (mostly) lighthearted manner. Leaving behind the clumsy and cumbersome tropes that go along with most time travel stories. It's also one of the few games you just have to play only because of the music. Just having the soundtrack does not do it justice. That CC score was unbelievable.
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Doc Hawkins posted:...You know, almost all humans literate in English are familiar with that line from MacBeth. Quoting it in full context is not a cool way to say that you're unimpressed with something, especially when that something is a japanese vidcon. In fact, doing so is a trite cliché well worth avoiding. The thing that irks me the most is the fact that the two guys defending it, haven't even beat it yet. If you loved it so much, why didn't you complete it? Don't get me wrong though, its a awesome game.
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Chrono Cross is a great game  it's definitely the style and the music that push it there though, both were utterly beautiful
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casual poster posted:The thing that irks me the most is the fact that the two guys defending it, haven't even beat it yet. If you loved it so much, why didn't you complete it? I loved Just Cause 2, though I never got round to finishing it simply because it's so insanely huge that I can't even try to head for a mission without getting massively distracted.
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Chrono Trigger isn't a big game though, unless you do New Game+ to get loads of endings. You can complete the main game in like 30 hours, which is relatively short for a jrpg
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Paperhouse posted:Chrono Trigger isn't a big game though, unless you do New Game+ to get loads of endings. You can complete the main game in like 30 hours, which is relatively short for a jrpg Tell me about these 'short' 30 hour JRPGs please cause I'm stuck looking at my backlog of Eternal Sonata/ToVesperia and FF13! I can't even begin to calculate how long they will all take. 
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Paperhouse posted:Chrono Trigger isn't a big game though, unless you do New Game+ to get loads of endings. You can complete the main game in like 30 hours, which is relatively short for a jrpg 30-40 hours is more than enough to me. I guess Dragon Quest V is a lot longer but oh well.
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member001 posted:I'm stuck looking at my backlog of Eternal Sonata/ToVesperia and FF13! I've got Eternal Sonata unstarted, got it as a gift. And four Tales games to finish. Final Fantasies 3, 5, 7, 12, and 13. A ton of Nippon Ichi SRPGs. Every Shin Megami Tensei game on PS2 except P3 and P4. That's just the tip of the list. I've got an RPG backlog problem.
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ChuckDHead posted:I loved Just Cause 2, though I never got round to finishing it simply because it's so insanely huge that I can't even try to head for a mission without getting massively distracted. Not to mention that some of the faction missions were way more fun than the story line missions. For example, there is a faction mission where you have to stop missiles from being launched but you are too late to stop the final one and have to hop into a jet and take it out in the air. There are also some escort (or kidnapping in some case) style missions that are insanely fun. I remember trying to drive some limo down a mountain, getting fed up with the switchbacks and just plowing straight down the mountain with police hot at my heels, laughing the entire way. In addition, causing general mayhem, listening to Rico's ridiculous one-liners ("Take that you pipeline jerks!") and playing with the game engine (mostly by falling, driving cars off cliffs/mountains, tethering people to things you launch into the air, tethering cars on the race track to overpasses and watching them flip around, etc) also took up a lot of my time when playing the game. I also enjoyed exploring a lot. The game world is absolutely beautiful, and it's impressive that you can see for kilometers in front of you and never experience any sort of slowdown. Man, it was a great game. I hope they make another one and fix some of the things that I didn't like so much about it.
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KariOhki posted:I've got Eternal Sonata unstarted, got it as a gift. And four Tales games to finish. Final Fantasies 3, 5, 7, 12, and 13. A ton of Nippon Ichi SRPGs. Every Shin Megami Tensei game on PS2 except P3 and P4. That's just the tip of the list. what's wrong with you I have all the Fire Emblems except the DS one and one version of each of the Ys games that actually got released here. Guess how many I have beaten. At least nothing of interest to me has come out since like March so I haven't had to add to the backlog.
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Filthy Monkey posted:Heck, it was practically worth playing through the game just to see all of the nicely done environments. I'll hand it to the tri-ace dudes, they know how to make some nice looking games. I made a quick video of the opening village to show what it looks like in an emulator, at high resolution and high quality. If any gamecube game deserves high-res emulation, Baten Kaitos is it. This is with all of the emulator settings cranked up, and fraps recording at 1600x1200. Before anybody asks, yes, I do actually own the disks. Baten Kaitos wasn't Tri-Ace. It was made by Monolith Soft and Tri-Crescendo.
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Whoops. Removed that bit.
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Paperhouse posted:You can complete the main game in like 30 hours, which is relatively short for a jrpg And God bless it for that! The biggest barrier to me getting into RPGs anymore is the fact that I can't keep the story straight in my head over the months it takes me to complete a thorough playthrough of 80 plus hours. At some point, I wake up, weeks into a game, not knowing what the gently caress is going on and trying to remember how what I'm currently doing relates to anything at all, never mind trying to carefully guide a story in some of the more open-ended RPGs. This was true even to an extent when I was a kid, but it's even worse now.
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30-40 hours was pretty much the standard back when CT was released for first-time.
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The Penny Arcade Adventures is a great couple RPGs that clock in at about 10 hours each, max, but they stopped making them after the second  .
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Morpheus posted:The Penny Arcade Adventures is a great couple RPGs that clock in at about 15 hours each, but they stopped making them after the second Woah now, they each took 6 hours for me. 15 hours might be a little much.
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