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Morpheus posted:Phew, I'm not crazy. Amppelix posted:I tried Radiant Historia and got maybe three hours in. I don't know what it is, but it didn't grab me, at all. I couldn't even have been bored with JRPGs, since soon after I picked up DQV and Chrono Trigger and am well over 30 hours combined into them. I just... the premise was interesting, but they didn't seem to do anything really interesting with it right at the start, and the battle system felt like busywork rather than strategy. I just don't know. The combat never really grabbed me in the way it grabbed others either. It's a terribly easy system to abuse as a human player while the CPU consistently struggles with it. They compensate for this by mixing in status attacks that just drags things on. I'm still playing through it myself, but it's a slow forced crawl that I only do when I'm away from my usual stuff. I can definitely say the game is pretty lackluster for the first 5 hours. It improves after that but then it nose-dived again for me when some little girl (who seems completely broken as gently caress thanks to the traps mechanic) started tagging along, forcing me to collect wood for a fire. It's picked up for me since, but it definitely has those really slowboat moments. WarLocke posted:Guys, can you recommend any good DS/DSi RPGs? I just got moved to graveyard shift at my job and I might need something to do when it gets loving boring. I've never had a DS though so I have no idea what kind of RPGs you can get for it. Rascyc fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jun 24, 2011 |
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I don't know how anyone can play TOEE long enough to find out it's good cause low level D&D combat is completely terrible I mean I guess I'd be mad that my guys can't hit anything if on the other hand the enemies could ever actually hit them
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WarLocke posted:Guys, can you recommend any good DS/DSi RPGs? I just got moved to graveyard shift at my job and I might need something to do when it gets loving boring. I've never had a DS though so I have no idea what kind of RPGs you can get for it. Midorka posted:Are you open to GBA games as well? Final Fantasy 1/2 and a few other classics were ported to that.
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Infinite Space either has a pretty decent plot or is the single longest, most convoluted, and most Japanese excuse possible to have a plot passing off a dude who wants to bone his sister. It's a testament of how actually pretty decent I considered the former case that I didn't write the plot off for the latter case. Also the gameplay is really boring after the early bits. UselessLurker fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jun 24, 2011 |
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As far as DS RPGs go, the Etrian Odyssey games need to be mentioned. The third one is still widely available new, and you don't need to have played the previous ones to dive right in. It's a Wizardry-style dungeon crawler, but they're more or less the finest Wizardry descendants currently available on the U.S. market. I'm loving Etrian III so far.RadicalR posted:So basically, the PC-98 versions are better than the PSP ports, eh? Sadly enough, yeah. Aside from somewhat improved graphics, the PSP versions are really poor in every regard, especially in English. The grand arc of the plots in the Gagharv games isn't really that much to write home about, but the PSP versions we got still managed to surgically remove what charming and unique points the games had originally, especially back in the mid-90s (remember, that was real-time tactical RPG combat with menu interrupts as early as 1994 - only Ultima VII had tried to go real-time at that point, and things that worked more or less exactly like the LoH Gagharv games did, such as Baldur's Gate, were nearly half a decade away. They aren't the best games in the world, but the early LoH games got a raw deal.
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SpaceDrake posted:As far as DS RPGs go, the Etrian Odyssey games need to be mentioned. The third one is still widely available new, and you don't need to have played the previous ones to dive right in. It's a Wizardry-style dungeon crawler, but they're more or less the finest Wizardry descendants currently available on the U.S. market. I'm loving Etrian III so far.
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Zereth posted:If I found Etrian Odyssey 1 boring as hell do you think it would be worth giving 3 a try? Depends on how you found EO1 boring. If dungeon crawls with relatively minimal plot just Aren't Your Thing, EO3 probably won't convert you (though it might). If things like the lack of strafing, fairly vanilla classes and a lack of variety ticked you off, however, EO3 basically improves on all fronts because the (all new) classes are inventive and neat, the monster designs are cool, the seafaring is a nice break from the dungeon, the sidequests are inventive and varied even early on and there's a lot of nice little interface tweaks that make the game a smoother experience. Oh and the FOE and boss music tracks are completely off the loving chain this time around. Basically the real question is "do you like Wizardry-style dungeon crawlers"? If you do, even a little bit, EO3 should be a rocking good time because it's a great refinement on all those elements.
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As I vaguely remember, it was mostly the "Hey great! You've beaten this floor, it poses no serious threat to you as long as you aren't a moron! What? Go to the NEXT floor? hahahaha nope! TIME TO GRIND!" thing. It's been ages though, I don't remember it very clearly. Also I remember it being really assholeish about respeccing if you did something wrong.
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Zereth posted:As I vaguely remember, it was mostly the "Hey great! You've beaten this floor, it poses no serious threat to you as long as you aren't a moron! What? Go to the NEXT floor? hahahaha nope! TIME TO GRIND!" thing. It's been ages though, I don't remember it very clearly. Also I remember it being really assholeish about respeccing if you did something wrong. Ahh, the respecs are one aspect that's improved; below level 6, there's no "level reset" at all and you can respec and experiment to your heart's delight, and after level 6 it's only a five-level penalty (and tbqfh you can gain that back pretty fast). As far as grinding goes, you'll get most of the levels you need just from exploring and doing sidequests (which now reward you with huge dollops of EXP), and if you decide to hunt FOEs, they absolutely poo poo EXP as well. If anything, I kind of overleveled without really meaning to in my game, though I suspect one's mileage on that may vary. tldr: I used to be kind of skeptical about this sort of game but EO3 made me a believer and I love it.
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Zereth posted:As I vaguely remember, it was mostly the "Hey great! You've beaten this floor, it poses no serious threat to you as long as you aren't a moron! What? Go to the NEXT floor? hahahaha nope! TIME TO GRIND!" thing. Yeah this is completely gone from EO3. If you're like me and you wanted to love the first game but ended up hating it because it was really badly balanced and paced and just didn't have enough to it, you will probably love EO3.
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That being said, if you are really mediocre at the game then grinding is always an option. There was a guy in the EO3 thread who used to go on and on incessantly about how much he had to grind, it was quite painful to watch  EO3 is pretty balanced and the difficulty had to be pulled back substantially from its predecessors due to the nature of the main/sub job system. The class system would have been no where near as fun if the game was significantly harder as you would likely be pigeon holed into the obvious powergaming combinations. As it is, you can use most any combination as long as you cover the basic bases in your party and stick to a strategy. To be honest it's a pretty easy game most of the time (post is a bit different though without a FAQ). Also there is a little sailing mini-game which is sort of like a big puzzle side game, that has tons of hours for you to spend in it. Doing this portion of the game gives you a lot of bonuses that help out in the main game (money, weapons/armors, rare monster parts, etc).
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WarLocke posted:Guys, can you recommend any good DS/DSi RPGs? I just got moved to graveyard shift at my job and I might need something to do when it gets loving boring. I've never had a DS though so I have no idea what kind of RPGs you can get for it. Aside from that you have you're pick from any number of 8/16-bit era remakes and/or homages like the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games.
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Amazon is doing XSeed PSP lightning deals all day today. Included in that is Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky, the Lunar 1 remake, and all the Ys games from XSeed. Some of them are also their limited/premium editions. EDIT: Full list from the C&D Amazon thread. 1PM EST - The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky LE - was $39.99 now $27.99 4PM EST - Lunar: Silver Star Harmony LE 6PM EST - Ys Seven PE 8PM EST - The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Regular Edition 9PM EST - YS: The Oath In Felghana PE 10PM EST - YS: The Oath In Felghana Standard Edition iastudent fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jun 24, 2011 |
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Ah, sounds like EO3 is much improved from EO1, I'll see about giving it a shot. EDIT: In fact, I'm planning to go shopping near a Gamestop later... wonder if they have any copies.
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PSP sales are so soul crushing, given that UMDs will not be usable on the new PSP2/Vita/etc.
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So is there no story in EO3 if I'm reading it right?
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Tae posted:So is there no story in EO3 if I'm reading it right? There's a story but it's pretty light. There's enough events and quests and stuff to keep it interesting though.
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EO3 definitely has a story. I mean don't expect a blistering party-filled narrative or anything. There's a couple of particularly important characters and some moments here and there. Nobody really plays dungeon crawlers for the story though.
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You are a person! You go into a dungeon! You fight battles and sometimes leve up! Yeah, not really as far as I know. E: I guess I didn't play far enough.
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Rascyc posted:PSP sales are so soul crushing, given that UMDs will not be usable on the new PSP2/Vita/etc. Hold on to your old PSP, softmod it for homebrew, then backup your UMDs and enjoy your "digital" copies. 
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Zereth posted:Ah, sounds like EO3 is much improved from EO1, I'll see about giving it a shot. EDIT: In fact, I'm planning to go shopping near a Gamestop later... wonder if they have any copies. GameStop should still have some new copies (always buy new for games like this, remember, so that the publishers see benefit). One little warning I have to give involves the Prince/Princess class, though, if you try to use them as "main" healers off the bat. It takes a little while to wrap your head around how their passive healing works, but once you do they're really effective. You'll probably find it frustrating to dive in with one straight off the bat, though; you'll probably want a Monk too (they heal in EO3) or lots of healing items.
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Since I can't find a Xenoblade thread and I don't think the Wii thread has enough readers, I'll bring this up here as well: People are getting frustrated by Nintendo's complete lack of, well, anything to say about The Last Story, Pandora's Tower and Xenoblade, so some people are organizing a mass snail mail protest thing to hopefully get Nintendo's notice and make them realize they're pissing away money by not releasing these games here. I'm gonna pen up and send my letter soonish, just need to get an envelope and figure out postage, but what this campaign really needs is a lot of people, sending a lot of (polite) letters, asking for these games. If you're feeling like helping out/pissed off that NoA's acting like douches/want to play an actual RPG on your Wii and don't want to resort of replaying GC RPG's again, read up on the details here: http://www.destructoid.com/letter-writing-campaign-for-last-story-pandora-s-tower-204505.phtml If you honestly don't give a poo poo, move along and stay classy by keeping your pessimistic comments short and hopefully giggle-worthy.
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They had exactly one copy, the "new" copy used for the display box. Time to poke around! EDIT: "This royalty skill regains TP with each new enhancement received". 
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Since I can't find a Xenoblade thread and I don't think the Wii thread has enough readers, I'll bring this up here as well: I would love to do this. But considering I can't send/receive mail right now thanks to Canada Post. Not going to happen.
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Zereth posted:They had exactly one copy, the "new" copy used for the display box. Time to poke around! EDIT: "This royalty skill regains TP with each new enhancement received". A few are oddly phrased for the Prince/ess, yeah; with that one, any time they get buffed, she regains TP. This includes their own buffs. Like I said, the royals take a little time to wrap your head around, but once you do, they're like the best support class in any game ever. There is a dedicated Etrian III thread, too: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3327011
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SpaceDrake posted:A few are oddly phrased for the Prince/ess, yeah; with that one, any time they get buffed, she regains TP. This includes their own buffs. And duh, of course there is! Well, I'll check it out tomorrow. For now, I cleared out the first floor as much as I seem to be able to right now, had my B-team of farmers run screaming to a gather point, grab some stuff, and run screaming back, making it with one barely alive. 
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Cross-posting this with the GOG thread. I'm doing a story on the making of Planescape Torment for Retro Gamer magazine. I'm interviewing a number of the leads on the project, and given this awesome opportunity, I'm extending an offer out there to the goons to suggest some questions I should ask the crew. Anyone?
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BadAstronaut posted:Cross-posting this with the GOG thread. - If you could do the game over with today's modern tech, would you change anything? Do you think it would do better, sales-wise? - What were some of the challenges with working with the Infinity Engine in such a story-driven game? - Why did you decide to set the story centered in the city of Sigil, and do you think the setting should be explored more? - Was there anything that you wish you could've added that you didn't have the time or funds for? - Why do you think the game didn't succeed as well as it could've? - What was your favourite line of dialogue or quote from the game?
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So I've started playing Exit Fate, and I have a question before I move on with the plot: This dog has a portrait Does this mean I can recruit it Because I'd really like to
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Jeabus Mahogany posted:So I've started playing Exit Fate, and I have a question before I move on with the plot: Yes. You need to recruit Johnny (who's at the port in the north of the Scotland analogue place) by winning 5000 in blackjack, then coming back and talking to the dog. The dog, unfortunately, isn't that worthwhile as a party member.
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Vermain posted:Yes. You need to recruit Johnny (who's at the port in the north of the Scotland analogue place) by winning 5000 in blackjack, then coming back and talking to the dog. The dog, unfortunately, isn't that worthwhile as a party member. I don't even care. I have now decided to play Exit Fate when before I had no intention to. 
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 Jesus Christ, Nintendo.
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tenderjerk posted:
What 3 games?
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dis astranagant posted:What 3 games? Probably the Mother series.
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Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but that update in particular was referring to Xenoblade, Last Story, and Pandora's Tower. There was/is a drive to get them localized on twitter and blogs called Operation Rain Fall. Monado (Xenoblade's original title) was #1 on Amazon's pre-orders for a day for example.
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tenderjerk posted:
If it weren't for No More Heroes 1+2 and being able to support Goichi Suda's crazy rear end ways I would regret owning a Wii.
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tenderjerk posted:
Guess it's time to import.
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dis astranagant posted:What 3 games? Xenoblade, Last Story, and something else. (Just joking don't worry.)
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What's the deal with the "something else" anyway? Looks second party but the reviews seem pretty mixed.
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Ragequit posted:Xenoblade, Last Story, and something else. Joking? It really does mean Xenoblade, Last Story, and Pandora's Tower. Is there really any reason for america not getting Xenoblade if it's already localized anyway?
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