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Levantine posted:You mentioned Skies of Arcadia which is so close to my heart - I've owned both versions and devoured both. Where is our sequel? Sega doesn't make sequels to anything other than Sonic games.  But seriously that is an excellent question what the hell Sega?
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Sega hasn't made a good decision in like a decade. Someone like tri-ace or something should just buy Skies of Arcadia from them.
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Pfft. Skies of Arcadia is a game I have fond memories of and I'd jump on a sequel on day one, but a real Sega RPG fan puts Panzer Dragoon Saga II at the top of their list of demands.  I had a dream a while ago that Sega announced a new PDS game for Nintendo 3DS, and it was sumptuous. 
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Sega hasn't made a good decision in like a decade. Someone like tri-ace or something should just buy Skies of Arcadia from them. If Skies of Arcadia had a tri-ace battle system implemented in it i'd be totally cool with that so long as the pirate exploration remained. Actually, for a game about pirates it was rather sparse on ransacking towns, so maybe put that in too.
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CommissarMega posted:Also, have some Fortune Summoners stuff from RPS: This game looks awesome. First time I've ever heard of it and I'm pretty excited. I've never played a side scrolling RPG (only got into the genre about 4 years ago) before. There's a trailer at this link: http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/03/carpe-fulgur-summon-fortune-summoners-as-their-next-japanese-indie-game/ Apparently theres a series thats influenced by the Mad Max movies called Metal Max, and the 2nd one is being redone in HD: http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/05/metal-max-2-remake-reloaded-for-nintendo-ds/ Anyone heard of this series before?
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Sega doesn't make sequels to anything other than Sonic games. They made NiGHTS: Journey into Dreams. I wonder if that was their way of stopping fans from complaining for sequels. "Yeah, go on then, keep complaining at us, you saw what we did to Nights, don't think we won't do it your game". In summary, I hope Burning Rangers 2 is never even on the cards now.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Sega doesn't make sequels to anything other than Sonic games. What about the PSO games? You had the original PS games on Genesis/Megadrive and now we have PSO 2 announced the other month, so they're still making relevant stuff.
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Polite Tim posted:If Skies of Arcadia had a tri-ace battle system implemented in it i'd be totally cool with that so long as the pirate exploration remained. Actually, for a game about pirates it was rather sparse on ransacking towns, so maybe put that in too. As long as they only touch the battle system. Otherwise there will be a billion minor optional things to miss and half the game will only be available after you beat the final boss. I'm too old for easter egg hunt RPGs anymore (unless it's Skies of Arcadia)
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So. Playing Dragon Quest VI, and well. Is the last boss supposed to be wrecking my poo poo by the third form or am I under-leveled? I can easily get past the first 2 forms but when the final one hits he just levels my party in 4-5 turns. I've got everyone level 40-42.
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casual poster posted:This game looks awesome. First time I've ever heard of it and I'm pretty excited. I've never played a side scrolling RPG (only got into the genre about 4 years ago) before. There's a trailer at this link: http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/03/carpe-fulgur-summon-fortune-summoners-as-their-next-japanese-indie-game/ I suggest you try The Spirit Engine 2; links are somewhere on the first page. It's a short (you can complete it in ±6 hours on the outside), free 2D RPG, and very well done.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Sega hasn't made a good decision in like a decade. They publish Platinum Games games, which is just about the smartest thing they've done this entire console generation. I honestly don't care how many crappy Sonic games they push out the door, so long as they use that cash to fund stuff like Bayonetta and MadWorld.  That reminds me, I still need to track down Infinite Space, that was an RPG for the DS that I never got around to buying, was it any good?
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:The rules aren't really that hard, just kind of weird. As a general rule you can right click anything to get a decent idea what it is for. Almost all of the skills are fairly useful, except Treat Poison which is worthless.
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Crossposting this from the Steam thread, it got swept aside with all the talk about today's sales.iastudent posted:Trying out the Last Remnant demo now. I know the PC version fixed some issues the 360 one had but is it still normal to get 30+ second load times?
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So, the evidently super old-school Eschalon RPGs went on sale on Steam. I've been curious about them for a while now. Anyone care to offer a recommendation for or against?
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^ What you see is what you get. They're pretty classic style and filled with running into goblins and killing them. Not much else to say really. They're an okay diversion at work.iastudent posted:Crossposting this from the Steam thread, it got swept aside with all the talk about today's sales. I had zero load times when I played; sorry I can't be any more help other than providing a reference point.
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Escher posted:So, the evidently super old-school Eschalon RPGs went on sale on Steam. I've been curious about them for a while now. Anyone care to offer a recommendation for or against? If you like the Exile/Avernum style of deep character customization and exploring the nooks and crannies of a world it's not a bad choice. It should be noted that book II makes I a bit redundant; I guess you could play it for the plot but that's not exactly these games' strong suites. If it's one of those sales where buying both costs you less than buying one, by all means get both.
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The Black Stones posted:So. Playing Dragon Quest VI, and well. Is the last boss supposed to be wrecking my poo poo by the third form or am I under-leveled? I can easily get past the first 2 forms but when the final one hits he just levels my party in 4-5 turns. I've got everyone level 40-42. I managed at 40, but only thanks to me going crazy with classes and had most classes mastered on most characters, so I had a whole lot of tools available. At that level it was definitely a crap shoot, though. I would suggest grinding to at least 45, and maybe check an FAQ to see what skills you might want to pick up while you're at it. Something like Hustle Dance on everyone can really save your bacon.
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casual poster posted:Apparently theres a series thats influenced by the Mad Max movies called Metal Max, and the 2nd one is being redone in HD: http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/05/metal-max-2-remake-reloaded-for-nintendo-ds/ Anyone heard of this series before? The PS2 game Metal Saga is spawned from this series. It's pretty fun, though kind of a niche game. There's a mix of character fighting and vehicle fighting, the usual vehicle customization stuff that comes from having tanks in a game, bounties, random grinding, fetch quests, dungeon crawling... it's a non-linear hodge-podge. That really appeals to me, though I'm a rare case when it comes to this stuff - I actually like SaGa games. The Black Stones posted:So. Playing Dragon Quest VI, and well. Is the last boss supposed to be wrecking my poo poo by the third form or am I under-leveled? I can easily get past the first 2 forms but when the final one hits he just levels my party in 4-5 turns. I've got everyone level 40-42. I got my rear end handed to me at L45, but my job setup was kind of meh. I did some grinding to master Hero on the Prince, which immediately switched the rest of the normal game to Easy Mode. By then I had mastered Dragon on a couple of others, and Sage on two others. Between Lightning Storm, breath attacks and Multiheal, I was able to survive long enough to kill both hands within a turn of each other; Kazapple blew away the head fairly quickly after. One other quick note; Hustle Dance and Sage's Stone may be free healing, but they aren't as effective as Multiheal. A Sage, with their cheap spells and better healing, is worth keeping around.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:They publish Platinum Games games, which is just about the smartest thing they've done this entire console generation. Another very smart move from Sega is the re-releasing of their games on multiple platforms. Not just handhelds (which obviously makes sense) but you can now pick up their games on Steam and everything. Awesome stuff. Although it would be great to see the original PS RPGs available on more handheld devices. You can play them on the genesis collection for PSP but that's about all I can think of... (Anyone know another platform?)
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Lurchibles posted:Another very smart move from Sega is the re-releasing of their games on multiple platforms. Not just handhelds (which obviously makes sense) but you can now pick up their games on Steam and everything. Awesome stuff. I can appreciate it is a risk to get a lot of these games in order. A lot of software wasn't well documented, or even archived, so it may turn out that a lot of publishers/developers do not have much/any source code in tact. Just wishing it wasn't re-re-releases of games everyone has already played, even if it is nice they are being released to a platform that will (ideally) remain in tact for longer than a decade.
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Levantine posted:As long as they only touch the battle system. Otherwise there will be a billion minor optional things to miss and half the game will only be available after you beat the final boss. I'm too old for easter egg hunt RPGs anymore (unless it's Skies of Arcadia) Resonance of Fate was pretty good about not throwing out permanently missable quests, everything's done on a chapter by chapter basis and it tells you if there is anything unfinished before you complete a chapter. (SEGA published too) It also has no plot, but that's neither here not there
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Kiggles posted:This is nice, but I wish they would go the extra mile for things like Panzer Dragoon Saga. There are tons of gems out there that are practically lost to time, and there is little to no recourse for the public to communicate any substantial interest in these things, because MOST people simply will not have a viable means of trying things games. Wasn't there some hilarious drama with the original code of a lot of Saturn and Dreamcast games being lost? I remember people talking about it, but a profusion of "Dreamcast Code" results clouds my google searches.
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Polite Tim posted:Resonance of Fate was pretty good about not throwing out permanently missable quests, everything's done on a chapter by chapter basis and it tells you if there is anything unfinished before you complete a chapter. (SEGA published too) Oh there's a plot. It's just nigh incomprehensible and your characters are only actually part of it for the final couple chapters of the game.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Wasn't there some hilarious drama with the original code of a lot of Saturn and Dreamcast games being lost? I remember people talking about it, but a profusion of "Dreamcast Code" results clouds my google searches. I've heard that was true for Panzer Dragoon Saga but it wouldn't surprise me the least to find out they lost code for other games. I still want to know how in the gently caress do you just up and lose the code?
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Lurchibles posted:Another very smart move from Sega is the re-releasing of their games on multiple platforms. Not just handhelds (which obviously makes sense) but you can now pick up their games on Steam and everything. Awesome stuff. There's Phantasy Star Collection for the GBA which has the first three PS games.
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Polygamy posted:I've heard that was true for Panzer Dragoon Saga but it wouldn't surprise me the least to find out they lost code for other games. I still want to know how in the gently caress do you just up and lose the code? If I recall, Sega's policy was to scrap all production materials/builds when things were done, they didn't keep an archive. A lot of programmers and people who worked on things "threw out" stuff they'd worked on and sometimes they come forward with those like the guy who helped with the mass of Sega prototype dumps a few years back now - all from his own collection of poo poo he kept from the incinerator.
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Polygamy posted:I've heard that was true for Panzer Dragoon Saga but it wouldn't surprise me the least to find out they lost code for other games. I still want to know how in the gently caress do you just up and lose the code? This was basically before things like remakes or re-releases really existed, so the idea that the code would somehow be useful after the initial release was practically unheard of. I guess developers just assumed the product would be rebuilt from the ground up. It was right around the turning point, thanks to the GBA and I imagine Japanese cellphone games proving there was a market in straight up porting games. Roughly everything before this point was just deleted after everyone was comfortable the game was "done".
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iastudent posted:Crossposting this from the Steam thread, it got swept aside with all the talk about today's sales. The demo is a bit strange. They just throw you into the game about an hour after the start, skipping all the tutorial-stuff. You have no idea what's going on, and if you do what the characters tell you (i.e. follow the main quest) the demo ends after one area or two. So you basically have to find and do the sidequests in the city to actually test the game. No idea about the loading times (I can't remember them, so they probably weren't that long). e: couldn't find anything about your problem, but here are some .ini-file tweaks http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1974930 Tamba fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jul 6, 2011 |
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Morpheus posted:Oh there's a plot. It's just nigh incomprehensible and your characters are only actually part of it for the final couple chapters of the game. The plot is Nathan Drake and some teens unleash a firearm smackdown on 1930s gangsters in a giant clockwork tower while a wee-a-boo cardinal with a pudding bowl haircut and a fanster t shirt follows them around, and that's still a hundred times better than FFXIII. Also they have magical guns with 10 scopes and 14 barrels that can shoot people into the air
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I think the thing I liked most about Resonance of Fate actually was that the three main characters were pretty central to the plot but doing their damnedest to forget about that bullshit and enjoy their lives anyway.
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TheOriginalEd posted:Resonance of Fate It also had banter that felt natural, happening all the drat time. It really helped flesh them out a lot.
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Thanks to those who gave me suggestions for Dragon Quest VI. Had to grind a bit. But I beat the boss and am now done with the game.
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The Black Stones posted:Thanks to those who gave me suggestions for Dragon Quest VI. Had to grind a bit. But I beat the boss and am now done with the game. I will say this much: you MAY have to grind a tiny bit for it, but you would definitely like the reward for offing the post-game bonus boss if the endboss was a hassle...
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Steam is having a Gothic sale today. They have Gothic 3 and Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods Enhanced Edition. Is Forsaken Gods a stand alone expansion? It isn't very clear. What are the must have fan patches?
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Yeah, did Gothic 3 / Forsaken Gods ever get fixed to the point of playability? I remember trying it when it first came out and there were...problems.
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Captain Vittles posted:The PS2 game Metal Saga is spawned from this series. It's pretty fun, though kind of a niche game. There's a mix of character fighting and vehicle fighting, the usual vehicle customization stuff that comes from having tanks in a game, bounties, random grinding, fetch quests, dungeon crawling... it's a non-linear hodge-podge. That really appeals to me, though I'm a rare case when it comes to this stuff - I actually like SaGa games. Someone else who has actually played Metal Saga? Awesome. That's a game I really wish someone would LP, because it has so much cool stuff that's marred by some rather poor decisions (Grind, general confusion, obscurity of some things). I just want the world as a whole to experience the awesomeness that is ARTILLERY DOGS.
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I got Last Remnant for the PC a while ago, and I'm quite lost with it - wonder if any of you could give me some hints? First of all, why are there race restricted items for sale / craft when you can only equip your main character that is always human? Basically it seems that there's a bunch of items for sale (some with ludicrous prices) that do absolutely nothing. Why? Second, about battles. Does distance somehow come into it? Looks like mobs just warp around the combat map freely and you can't move your units (besides attacking), so the map itself seems to mean gently caress-all. I assume you can't place your healer-unions behind the other unions either, since the enemies just warp right at them? Why do unions seem to use their skills randomly, and is there some way to affect it? I mean, if I select "Use Mystic Arts" I might have one guy cast a spell while the others just hit the mobs with their weapons. Sometimes you have four guys casting spells. Sometimes the "Heal that other union"-command has more people attacking with mystic arts than "Use mystic arts"-command!  Also, how do I give items to people? I know they ask for certain items when you get them as drops, but if half my party keeps begging me for iron ore and I have a bunch of it, there doesn't seem to be any way to actually give it to them? Or have I missed something? The stats are also never explained anywhere! I mean, some characters have stats like "Love" or "Gluttony" or "Bravery" and the game doesn't bother giving you the faintest clue what they do. Feels like the developers have tried their utmost to make the thing as confusing as possible, and succeeded. Cheers for any tips!
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Dropbear posted:I got Last Remnant for the PC a while ago, and I'm quite lost with it - wonder if any of you could give me some hints? For (almost) everything else: http://lastremnant.wikia.com
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Is there any difference between the US and UK versions of Last Remnant PC? Amazon has the UK version for nearly $2 cheaper than the US one.
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