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I think one of my favorite aspects of the writing of this game is the occasional dorkiness of the "suave" responses. At first I would experimentally pick them and then  at whatever Mike said, thinking the writer had just been bad at crafting "smooth" lines like in every other RPG ever, but then I started noticing that the other characters listening would cringe as well. It's like the writers went postmodern in lampooning how awkward most RPG writing is.
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Vizrt posted:This is what I'm doing on my first run. So god damned satisfying to throat punch 4-5 dudes in a row, then blow brilliance and do it again on the next room of guys. I can imagine it gets even better when I can sprint to each one with max stealth. As far as I know, you can only do the standard run, not the full on sprint, but I might be wrong. Its also knife everyone in the neck. The worst bit being when you get that long take down when he slowly lowers them to the floor, meaning you don't know if you have enough time to reach everyone else.
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Jul 10, 2011 00:20
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So I'm trying to get a secret fact about Madison. I've slept with her, and now my choice is to go to intercept Marburg at the museum. If I go now she'll be captured, but the FAQ I checked says I should be able to talk to her about her dossier after sleeping with her. Unfortunately it won't let me talk to her; Mike says he should let her sleep and then the option doesn't even come up. Bug? Did I do missions in the wrong order? Do I have to choose her at the museum?
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Jul 10, 2011 02:05
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Nitevision posted:I think one of my favorite aspects of the writing of this game is the occasional dorkiness of the "suave" responses. At first I would experimentally pick them and then Sauve tends to be more Sterling Archer than Bond especially the NPC reaction to the more horrible smooth lines.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:07
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Lotish posted:So I'm trying to get a secret fact about Madison. I've slept with her, and now my choice is to go to intercept Marburg at the museum. If I go now she'll be captured, but the FAQ I checked says I should be able to talk to her about her dossier after sleeping with her. Unfortunately it won't let me talk to her; Mike says he should let her sleep and then the option doesn't even come up. Bug? Did I do missions in the wrong order? Do I have to choose her at the museum? I think you jumped the gun on sleeping with her. You get an option to sleep with her right away, or you can talk with her a bit before you sleep with her. I think if you talked you would have gotten the secret fact.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:11
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Lotish posted:So I'm trying to get a secret fact about Madison. I've slept with her, and now my choice is to go to intercept Marburg at the museum. If I go now she'll be captured, but the FAQ I checked says I should be able to talk to her about her dossier after sleeping with her. Unfortunately it won't let me talk to her; Mike says he should let her sleep and then the option doesn't even come up. Bug? Did I do missions in the wrong order? Do I have to choose her at the museum? Do you have the rest of the dossier? I'm pretty sure one of the component triggers for that is having filled it out.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:12
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The Albatross dynamic is really well done. I'm going out of my way to piss him off, and it's all really believable.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:28
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I have 75%. I figured the remaining 25% was going to come out of her own mouth. If that's the case, I must have missed something obscure, because I try to be thorough as I can.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:29
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Question for the end of Moscow; In my first run, I had tech pumped, and so got the option to save both the Halbech data and my helpful handler. Second run as a rookie I didn't so I didn't; now i'm going through it as a veteran, and my tech is high enough, but instead I get a veteran option which is basically "gently caress 'em, they knew the risks". Did I misread, or can you just not do both as a veteran?
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Jul 10, 2011 02:30
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For some reason I cannot hack any computers anymore. It immediately fails as soon as the window opens. I also die immediately if I am shot. I did the Steam validation of files, but still all dicked up. Any ideas? Edit: I can only kill with sneak attacks. I punched a guy for a solid 3-5 minutes and he barely lost any health. stuxracer fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jul 10, 2011 |
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Jul 10, 2011 02:31
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elf help book posted:The 360 version actually has no patches whatsoever. I was shocked when I put it in and found this out, considering both that seemingly every 360 game has a patch available and it's a game by Obsidian. I noticed this too (thanks to this thread, I bought it). Did Rome, halfway through Moscow. Yeah, alright, you guys were right, this is an amazing game if you play it right (slash, learn to laugh at the AI). Really, I'm impressed at the variety, and you know what? Despite the linearity in levels, I'm very tempted to call this better than Mass Effect 2.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:32
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:This is literally the best rpg I've ever played, I feel guilty having spent so little on it. And I'm only half-way through my first playthrough Yeah, I kind of feel guilty about getting it used for  . 
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Jul 10, 2011 02:34
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Revenant Threshold posted:Question for the end of Moscow; In my first run, I had tech pumped, and so got the option to save both the Halbech data and my helpful handler. Second run as a rookie I didn't so I didn't; now i'm going through it as a veteran, and my tech is high enough, but instead I get a veteran option which is basically "gently caress 'em, they knew the risks". You can do both. Just choose the veteran option, grab the info first, and then go for the captive ally second. There is a bug if you choose the option to leave them there, you will get stuck and won't be able to advance the mission. I did this and had to restart the mission. Torsade de Pointes fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jul 10, 2011 |
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Jul 10, 2011 02:35
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Torsade de Pointes posted:You can do both. Just choose the veteran option, grab the info first, and then go for the captive ally second. There is a bug if you choose the option to leave them there, you will get stuck and won't be able to advance the mission. I did this and had to restart the mission.
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Jul 10, 2011 02:53
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Just finished the Intercept Surkov mission in Moscow. I went with the ladies as my handlers  . I choose to believe that Albatross sent his thugs to the embassy to attack me because he's a jealous little baby who got his feelings hurt when I said no to his offer of aid 
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Jul 10, 2011 02:54
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Lotish posted:I have 75%. I figured the remaining 25% was going to come out of her own mouth. If that's the case, I must have missed something obscure, because I try to be thorough as I can. There's a piece of intel in the last area of the Roman ruins that's easy to miss. I don't think I noticed it until my third or fourth playthrough.
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Jul 10, 2011 03:03
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Billy Bob FORTRAN posted:The Albatross dynamic is really well done. I'm going out of my way to piss him off, and it's all really believable. Smug shitbird Thorton is the best especially when he crows about killing Sis.
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Jul 10, 2011 03:08
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Mistikman posted:I think you jumped the gun on sleeping with her. You get an option to sleep with her right away, or you can talk with her a bit before you sleep with her. I think if you talked you would have gotten the secret fact. Not to mention that you don't actually have to sleep with her at all. The conversation triggers immediately after finding Madison asleep no matter what you choose, but only if you've filled her dossier.
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Jul 10, 2011 03:17
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Question about Moscow, Alpha Protocol labeled mission: After infiltrating Brayko's place and subsequently letting him live, a new mission popped up tagged with the AP symbol. If I remember right it was to meet back up with Surkov. I decided to hit up Tapei to check on if there were any new missions there. After seeing there weren't any new ones I headed back to Moscow and that mission had disappeared. I'm now just about to start the missions labeled Endgame. I'm curious if what happened is normal and some missions are travel sensitive, or if it bugged out. Just feels like I missed quite a bit in Moscow possibly. Haven't seen much of Sie or Sis since the first meetings.
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Jul 10, 2011 03:33
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Vizrt posted:Question about Moscow, Alpha Protocol labeled mission: After infiltrating Brayko's place and subsequently letting him live, a new mission popped up tagged with the AP symbol. If I remember right it was to meet back up with Surkov. I decided to hit up Tapei to check on if there were any new missions there. After seeing there weren't any new ones I headed back to Moscow and that mission had disappeared. I'm now just about to start the missions labeled Endgame. I'm curious if what happened is normal and timed so that you can't leave Moscow, or if it bugged out. You've got to go to Surkov IMMEDIATELY. Otherwise he grabs the first flight to You Don't Have A loving Clue, laughing all the way there. And new missions never appear in any of the hubs while you're doing others. Every hub can be completed in one pass.
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Oxxidation posted:You've got to go to Surkov IMMEDIATELY. Otherwise he grabs the first flight to You Don't Have A loving Clue, laughing all the way there. Ok, I'm relieved that it's not a bug then. Going to see if I can't finish the game now. Think I'm pretty close. 
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This game is really hard to talk about with other people who aren't on Something Awful. How do you talk about Alpha Protocol without ?
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Jul 10, 2011 03:38
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When I bought this on release the guy behind the counter tried to talk me into buying something else. Part of me hopes he never played it and holds his stupid opinion about it still. It's so good to see a new crop of players. I might put down the AC:B runthrough I'm on currently and give this another few spins.
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Okay, I'm loving this game, but I'd like to punch the person or persons responsible for the PC port of the controls Right. In. The. loving. Sack. I use a weird control scheme in games typically anyway, and not only does it actively lie to you re: rebound controls (hacking tutorial), if a button is multi-purpose, it only rebinds some of the uses, and leaves the other ones as default, which is so goddamn sloppy, I just don't know...  And now I'm completely stuck at the sniper scope "scan the dudes" mission, because when I zoom in with the scope, I can't seem to un-zoom it so I can move around and progress with the mission. I've tried every button on the keyboard.  Ideas? Has anyone else gotten this? Edit: Nevermind, I'm a dumbass. 
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The party mission is unusual in that you can't move, you do the whole thing from the scope.
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Yeah, I just figured that out. Doh. With all the control issues, I assumed it was something else that was hosed up. My mistake.
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Chasiubao posted:This game is really hard to talk about with other people who aren't on Something Awful. How do you talk about Alpha Protocol without You go ... > ..!? > Draw revolvers.
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Boy Wunder posted:I am stuck at the Moscow Embassy, trying to defend Surkov. I am heavily into stealth and pistols and have no other weapons available to me other than level 2 martial arts and one grenade. Is there anything I can do other than reload my last save at the safehouse and buy the sniper rifle? Great game so far, but this part is so loving dumb that I'm close to giving up. The loving guy doesn't even move when a grenade is thrown a foot away from him. I mentioned this in the last thread, and I think in this one too, but it needs to be said again: Do not treat AP combat like it's a shooter, or even an action RPG. Treat it like you're playing a puzzle game. You have X amount of enemies and Y amount of skills/ Z amount of gadgets. How can you use or combine Y+Z to eliminate all of X? Someone already mentioned it, but with stealth and pistols you can start with Shadow operative neck stabs and then, once that wears off, activate chain shot to take down a few more guys. Chuck some grenades or shock bombs at the far guys, activate fury and close into whoever is closest while you wait for Chain Shot to refresh. As longs as dudes are shooting at you, they won't be shooting at Surkov.
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Yeah when I'm trying to accomplish a specific goal I go stealth, pistols, and whichever one gives you Brilliance and near the end of hub two you're able to Shadow Operative-> immediately pop brilliance so its cooldown begins ticking -> shadow operative again (stacks w/ previous shadow op) -> 46 seconds of being able to run around full-speed (final rank of shadow operative) stabbing the poo poo out of everything -> brilliance only has 4 seconds left on its cooldown, pop it again and pop shadow operative for another 23 seconds of stabby fun time. So basically you'are almost always invulnerable. Chain shot bosses. Makes the combat completely moot. Soonmot's puzzle game analogy is perfect. I'm about to do a crazy aloof patriotic shotgun Thorton run and it's going to be tough- I've pretty much always sided with Shaheed, it jusst feels right dammit! rawdog pozfail fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jul 10, 2011 |
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Wow, the DENG boss fight is a total whore. I cant fight 3 guys at once while not being able to target any of them. gently caress THAT.
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strategery posted:Wow, the DENG boss fight is a total whore. I cant fight 3 guys at once while not being able to target any of them. gently caress THAT. What skills are you using?
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Y'know, I just noticed something really small but neat on my latest playthrough (Martial Arts/Shotguns/Tech Aptitude Veteran who is generally a nice guy unless you're working for Halbech, then out comes the anger): Mike maintains proper trigger discipline in keeping his finger off of the trigger when not aiming. I love the tiny details like that in this game.
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strategery posted:Wow, the DENG boss fight is a total whore. I cant fight 3 guys at once while not being able to target any of them. gently caress THAT. I gimped that one by immediately laying down some incendiary mines while I was still stealthed and before Deng spotted me for the first time. When his reinforcements came in through the elevator, they got burned. Actually, one of my mines didn't get tripped by reinforcements so after one expert chain shot and one incendiary mine, Deng was done.
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Polaron posted:Y'know, I just noticed something really small but neat on my latest playthrough (Martial Arts/Shotguns/Tech Aptitude Veteran who is generally a nice guy unless you're working for Halbech, then out comes the anger): Mike maintains proper trigger discipline in keeping his finger off of the trigger when not aiming. I love the tiny details like that in this game. It's funny for a game that otherwise was so obviously not made with gun-porn in mind. You look at the fictional guns, the ridiculous mods and justifications for how they work, etc. and just kinda shake your head. I'm not even a gun person and some of it's like 'really?' Caseus Maximus posted:I gimped that one by immediately laying down some incendiary mines while I was still stealthed and before Deng spotted me for the first time. Now complete it before he gets reinforcements.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:It's funny for a game that otherwise was so obviously not made with gun-porn in mind. You look at the fictional guns, the ridiculous mods and justifications for how they work, etc. and just kinda shake your head. I wonder if someone has that picture saved of that one modified assault rifle. I'm not quite sure on the details, but it looked like you couldn't even actually aim the thing. I think it had a scope, iron sights, and a laser pointer all on the top 
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Torsade de Pointes posted:I wonder if someone has that picture saved of that one modified assault rifle. I'm not quite sure on the details, but it looked like you couldn't even actually aim the thing. I think it had a scope, iron sights, and a laser pointer all on the top This one?
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OK I need some help from any of you guys who are pretty good at stealth, goin on a "No Alarms" unless scripted run Taipei: On the bugging the warehouse mission, just made it onto the rooftop with the 2 patrolling ground guards and the 4 on the ledges. I can get the 2 patrollers and the guard on the close ledge immediately to the left, but can not find a working strategy for the 3 by the dish. I get one on the edge and the other somehow sees everytime. I have first level chainshot, silent run, and shadow agent (started on recruit). Seems the only way to get any of the guards is with chainshot but it doesnt cool down fast enough to get the alerted guard who sees. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I just remembered which level you're referring to, and it was pretty difficult even as a Veteran. You should be trying to get to a point where you're able to stealthily kill all the grown level guards and work your way to a point where after you drop the last one you'll be in a spot where you can get 3 headshots on the guards up above. If you want to cheese it just wait for Shadow Agent cooldowns wherever possible behind the air conditioning units, and slowly creep until all the guards are dead. e: (in response to next page) Or I guess you can just actually be stealthy? I never tried that 
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