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The Viper
Oct 4, 2009

ChuckDHead posted:

In that case it's more fair to murder every big boss to show equality.

Thank you for solving my moral dilemma.


John Charity Spring posted:

I have real trouble with that sort of thing too. You're not alone.

Hell, I can't even be a dick in management games. For example, I am incapable of playing Tropico 3 as anything other than a full-on welfare-stating egalitarian socialist who allows free elections and never puts anything into his Swiss bank account.

Eagerly awaiting Puppy Orphan Rescue vs. African Aids Charity Manager 2012.

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ChuckDHead
Dec 18, 2006

The Viper posted:

Eagerly awaiting Puppy Orphan Rescue vs. African Aids Charity Manager 2012.

I'm excited for inFamous 3 as well.

edit: Oh wait, you mean the non-corrupt charity guys.

ChuckDHead fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jul 16, 2011

Lynx
Nov 4, 2009

GetWellGamers posted:

If you do this, can Marburg still Do the "Go gently caress yourself, Leland exchange later, or do you have to kill him in the data room?

You have to kill him in the data room right after the cutscene ends. I'm pretty sure there's no way this situation plays out where you don't have to fight Marburg if he kills Parker. Then again there might be, TFG and all.

Colinrobinson
Apr 10, 2005

Yeah I'm not positive what my deal is either, so I just sort of keep on truckin'
I don't remember if I read this in the last AP thread (when I was debating buying it) or in the Steam thread when AP went on sale for the summer sale, but I definitely remember some talk of how to totally cheese Chain Shot so that you had no cool down time... is this real, or is it no longer valid/patched out/etc?

While I am doing fine in the game, I'd love to totally break the system on a subsequent play-through, perhaps as a god-like Thorton.


Also I need to find a way to make my character not always tend towards the "Professional" response.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy

IanCaw posted:

I don't remember if I read this in the last AP thread (when I was debating buying it) or in the Steam thread when AP went on sale for the summer sale, but I definitely remember some talk of how to totally cheese Chain Shot so that you had no cool down time... is this real, or is it no longer valid/patched out/etc?

If you have Brilliance you can use chain shot, brilliance to get rid of the cooldown, and then chain shot instantly.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
The bug was chain shot, line up (allowed shots - 1) cancel chain shot, they still go off.

Frankly, Chain Shot is so powerful anyway that it's a bit like turning on God mode and then using the console to kill anything just in case.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


It's the CHIM of Alpha Protocol.

e: VVVV You can learn all that anyone could possibly want to know reading this, but the summary is that I'm making a silly one-off joke/reference that should not be discussed further in this thread.

Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jul 17, 2011

GetWellGamers
Apr 11, 2006

The Get-Well Gamers Foundation: Touching Kids Everywhere!

Doc Hawkins posted:

It's the CHIM of Alpha Protocol.

CHIM? :confused:

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

GetWellGamers posted:

CHIM? :confused:

Elder Scrolls lore. Don't go there.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Lynx posted:

You have to kill him in the data room right after the cutscene ends. I'm pretty sure there's no way this situation plays out where you don't have to fight Marburg if he kills Parker. Then again there might be, TFG and all.

There isn't. If Marburg kills Parker then it means he's double-crossed both his current employers, so he more or less decides to go kamikaze on you.

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

ChuckDHead posted:

I will admit, though, it is amazing how cold it tends to be when Thorton executes someone.

Worse is [Moscow] Mike taunting Albatross over killing Sis. I haven't actually gotten that far in my psychopath run, but I stumbled onto a video of it on YouTube, and it's actually stomach-turning.

e: The video title was something to the effect of "most badass line in Alpha Protocol". :stare:

Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jul 17, 2011

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Lynx posted:

Xander77 (I think) requested this a while back, and I've finally gotten around to putting it together: (big time endgame spoilers) it's what happens when you tell Marburg about Parker's involvement in Deus Vult. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttNh2j-sZVE

Holy poo poo I didn't even know you could do this! Jesus, this game just keeps finding ways to impress and surprise me. Unbelievable.

So you can turn Marburg against Parker...or Parker against Marburg. Wow. The dev team must have been CRAZY good at developing all possible outcomes. I guess if the game's flaws had been better ironed out this would have been GOTY for sure, but as it is, I still love the hell out of the thing. Even if there's never an Alpha Protocol 2, I hope all the people who made it go on to do great things.

Torsade de Pointes
Feb 14, 2006

Oh, yeah. I name all the operations that go down in Taipei, even the ones that aren't mine. Operation Latex Turtle, Operation Angry Bees, Operation AAAAAHHHH-YOOOOOOOW! Heh. That was a good one.

Rabbit Hill posted:

Someone in the old thread posted about getting this exchange with Marburg after a game of mostly professional dialogue options (I can't find it now to quote exactly) --

Marburg: [reveals Deus Vult]
Thorton: [aggressive dialogue option]
Marburg: I never knew seeing you lose control would be so satisfying.

If you've experienced this yourself, 1) when in the game does it occur, 2) and do you need to have chosen the professional dialogue with everybody up to that point (because THIS GAME) or just him?

I just recently came across this line. (end of Rome stuff) I got this from going for the bombs in the museum instead of Madison. Not sure how much is necessary to trigger it besides picking the first Agressive dialogue choice when Marburg shoots Madison. I had Thorton act pretty much like a consummate professional up until that point. Marburg really liked Thorton too. Thorton also had high rep with Madison. Here's how I remember the conversation going.

(Marburg shoots Madison)
Marburg: You brought it on her.
Anger Response: You psychopathic SON OF A BITCH!
Marburg: Hardly. You blame me? You made the choice.
Thorton: She wanted to stop you from killing me and bombing a museum full of people. You're a dead man.
Marburg: We both already are... in our own way. I didn't expect seeing you lose control would be so satisfying

There was no mention of Deus Vult that I saw.

Torsade de Pointes fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jul 17, 2011

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Torsade de Pointes posted:

There was no mention of Deus Vult that I saw.

Really? I've always seen Marburg say it right before he shoots Madison in the back.

:ninja: No one saw that.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Does anyone else just hate Mike's default haircut? It just looks bad.

Torsade de Pointes
Feb 14, 2006

Oh, yeah. I name all the operations that go down in Taipei, even the ones that aren't mine. Operation Latex Turtle, Operation Angry Bees, Operation AAAAAHHHH-YOOOOOOOW! Heh. That was a good one.

Doc Hawkins posted:

Really? I've always seen Marburg say it right before he shoots Madison in the back.

:ninja: No one saw that.

He does say the phrase beforehand. I thought the person I was quoting meant Marburg was supposed to explain the meaning. :v: I tried a few different times, but no option seemed to have Mike talk about Deus Vault even though I had a complete history on Marburg and knew about the Parker connection. I have seen Mike explain Deus Vult and why Marburg chose the Museum if you go to save Madison instead of the stopping the bombing.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Ha ha. Okay, I'm pretty sure I must have made a different kind of Mike this time around. I've been in Rome, and while going through the ruins, he starts humming a "sinister theme" to himself. I'm pretty sure I didn't get that my first time through.

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Lazyhound posted:

Worse is [Moscow] Mike taunting Albatross over killing Sis. I haven't actually gotten that far in my psychopath run, but I stumbled onto a video of it on YouTube, and it's actually stomach-turning.

e: The video title was something to the effect of "most badass line in Alpha Protocol". :stare:

It is. It's just done so perfectly. Too bad it doesn't actually result in anything.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Lotish posted:

Ha ha. Okay, I'm pretty sure I must have made a different kind of Mike this time around. I've been in Rome, and while going through the ruins, he starts humming a "sinister theme" to himself. I'm pretty sure I didn't get that my first time through.

The only trigger for getting that is [Rome]playing on Veteran, I believe.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

More Rome weirdness I don't understand: I went through the stuff with Madison in what I thought was the same manner as before, just remembering to get her last piece of intel so I could nab her secret fact. However, after the warehouse mission, rather than finding her asleep for us to talk, she was in the living room and sounded kind of terse with me--"ANOTHER shootout?"--even though I wasn't any more violent this time than last; though this time I was not an ally with Surkov so the Russians had to die. Her reputation with me is 2 (liked), so is that just too low to trigger the right conversation?

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Lotish posted:

More Rome weirdness I don't understand: I went through the stuff with Madison in what I thought was the same manner as before, just remembering to get her last piece of intel so I could nab her secret fact. However, after the warehouse mission, rather than finding her asleep for us to talk, she was in the living room and sounded kind of terse with me--"ANOTHER shootout?"--even though I wasn't any more violent this time than last; though this time I was not an ally with Surkov so the Russians had to die. Her reputation with me is 2 (liked), so is that just too low to trigger the right conversation?

I think the cutoff is 3 or higher. You just barely missed it.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Welp! Time to reload, I guess!

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
This Game, I just reached ROME SPOILERS the gameroom in the Villa, and when Madison mentioned it was the game room Mike muttered that he hoped it wasn't like Brayko's. Such a silly little thing but I keep noticing more and more touches like that that make me adore this game a ton. Also veteran owns so much after the recruit playthrough, kicking rear end and taking names. :toot:

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

The Viper posted:

I really like that you can do AP totally kill-free (within reason).

I was trying to do a kill-free run this time through but having done Saudi Arabia and Rome I've somehow managed to pick one up along the way, which is weird since I've only ever used tranq rounds, melee and non-lethal takedowns. I think I maybe caught someone with splash damage when hitting that APC with rockets. :(

ElectricSheep
Jan 14, 2006

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

poptart_fairy posted:

I cannot imagine anyone else as Marburg other than Jim Cummings. The man was perfect for that role.

Except that every time he screams at you for shooting up his men during a fight, it's really really easy to hear him as Minsc from Baldur's Gate 2.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

ElectricSheep posted:

Except that every time he screams at you for shooting up his men during a fight, it's really really easy to hear him as Minsc from Baldur's Gate 2.

Crappy Jack posted:

What's even better is you could say the same thing about Winnie the Pooh.

The guy's good at VA.

You guys are making GBS threads me. WHAT.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

He's prolific and varied, what can you say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cummings

Category Fun!
Dec 2, 2008

im just trying to get you into bed

SynthOrange posted:

He's prolific and varied, what can you say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cummings

quote:

Video games
Alpha Protocol- Conrad Marburg
Animaniacs – Himself, Radio News
Army Men Series – All the voices except females.

What the gently caress :psyduck:

The Viper
Oct 4, 2009

SynthOrange posted:

He's prolific and varied, what can you say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cummings

Whoa, dude was the Master in Fallout, Patriarch in Mass Effect 2 and Duncan the Horse in the Simpsons. Awesome.

EDIT: OH MY GOD LOOK AT HIS AMAZING WEBSITE: http://www.jimjcummings.com/splash/index3.html Warning: Sound.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Lynx posted:

Xander77 (I think) requested this a while back, and I've finally gotten around to putting it together: (big time endgame spoilers) it's what happens when you tell Marburg about Parker's involvement in Deus Vult. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttNh2j-sZVE
Thanks.

What happens if you alert both Marburg about Deus Vult and Parker about Madison? Which one takes precedence?

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

Xander77 posted:

Thanks.

What happens if you alert both Marburg about Deus Vult and Parker about Madison? Which one takes precedence?

Maybe ought to spoil that. It's only one or the other - if you do one (I think you get the opportunity to do the former first) then you don't get a shot to do the latter.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Noxville posted:

I was trying to do a kill-free run this time through but having done Saudi Arabia and Rome I've somehow managed to pick one up along the way, which is weird since I've only ever used tranq rounds, melee and non-lethal takedowns. I think I maybe caught someone with splash damage when hitting that APC with rockets. :(

Or perhaps you threw someone off a bridge, where they were hit by an onrushing APC?

I'm pretty sure that's unavoidable.

Agnostalgia
Dec 22, 2009
That's manslaughter, tops. You couldn't have known there'd be an APC there.

Lynx
Nov 4, 2009

Xander77 posted:



I think someone (can't remember who) posted that telling Parker about Madison has precedence over the other, but I've never confirmed that.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

The Viper posted:

Whoa, dude was the Master in Fallout, Patriarch in Mass Effect 2 and Duncan the Horse in the Simpsons. Awesome.

EDIT: OH MY GOD LOOK AT HIS AMAZING WEBSITE: http://www.jimjcummings.com/splash/index3.html Warning: Sound.

He voiced Jeremy Irons. Like, the actual human being, Jeremy Irons. Took over halfway through Irons' song in The Lion King. And he did the same thing to Christopher Lee.

Bloodcider
Jun 19, 2009

Category Fun! posted:

What the gently caress :psyduck:

Even better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmF_MB6oUKc

That show sucked.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Oxxidation posted:

He voiced Jeremy Irons. Like, the actual human being, Jeremy Irons. Took over halfway through Irons' song in The Lion King.

When Irons's voice gave out that is, not in some kind of body snatching thing

Scorchy
Jul 15, 2006

Smug Statement: Elementary, my dear meatbag.
Oh crap, he was Darkwing Duck. 9 year old me loved that show.

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Scorchy posted:

Oh crap, he was Darkwing Duck. 9 year old me loved that show.

Oh, man. I haven't been this surprised about video game/film-and-TV voiceactor crossovers since I found out that Freespace 2's Admiral Aken Bosch is Robocop's Dick Jones :monocle:

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Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
I'm just finishing up Taipei, my last hub, on my hard run and, upon checking my achievement list, saw that the 360 has NO achievement for hard mode. gently caress, you guys weren't kidding about how difficult the minigames were on this mode. I have both integrated circuitry mods and the second difficulty reduction skill for the minigames and I still have to use emps! On normal, even without sabotage or mods I only had to use EMPS if I didn't feel like waiting a few seconds to hack or whatever.

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