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worlds gayest baby posted:So wait, do you have to use Mina as your handler for most of the game or was there some way to change them that I missed? Whenever I got a dialogue option or whatever, I'd go with someone who wasn't Mina, but can you just ditch her from the get go? They were planning on letting you have either Mina, Darcy, or Westridge as your handler for the entire game, but they had to cut it seeing as it would require a LOT of work to do.
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Red_Fred posted:Well I can survive it fine and have hit it with six rockets but can't find anymore and it's still flying around! Eventually I die looking for the seventh fabled rocket. Can I shot it with my pistol? The pistol is basically the best weapon in the game, due to Chainshot and corner criticals. I'm planning on going for a shotgun run next, and I suspect it's actually going to be a lot more difficult.
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Jul 18, 2011 13:55
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BSAKat posted:In Taipei In the Triad Base mission, is there a way to get into Eric Chung's room without tripping an alarm? I can get to the back of the room to close the sluice gates and open the safe, but if I so much as glance at the window there are three assholes looking in and immediately spot me/rush through the door/sound the alarm. There are only 3 or 4 missions that can be completed without setting off alarms. Saudi Air Field CIA Listening Post Taipei Warehouse and Moscow spoiler Molotek, but only if you make a deal with Surkov. If you choose to fight him it's an auto alarm.
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Jul 18, 2011 14:23
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Soonmot posted:There are only 3 or 4 missions that can be completed without setting off alarms. The Nasri mission is another possibility too. The last part where you have to neutralize his bodyguards is loving hard though, but it's doable.
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Jul 18, 2011 14:34
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Smol posted:The Nasri mission is another possibility too. The last part where you have to neutralize his bodyguards is loving hard though, but it's doable. I can do this non-lethally with melee takedowns without using shadow operative on Hard. I'm not really proud of this, it took a shitload of tries and relies on AI quirks
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Jul 18, 2011 14:45
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Smol posted:The Nasri mission is another possibility too. The last part where you have to neutralize his bodyguards is loving hard though, but it's doable. If you don't fire the missile at the castle when you play that level, you're doing it wrong. 
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Jul 18, 2011 15:14
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Scorchy posted:I remember doing it without tripping the alarm. That computer in front of the window - it's designed to be used by those with Remote Hacking. Or shadow agent/emp, or just shadow agent if high enough rank
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Jul 18, 2011 15:15
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The perk for getting through 5 missions with no alarms and fewer than 5 kills was way easier for me to get than that One with the Shadows perk, which is also an achievement. Getting through 3 missions without being spotted at all and fewer than 5 kills is pretty tough cause there are so few missions where it's doable. The no alarms is much easier cause you can just take everyone out before they raise the alarm or shoot the alarm itself before it goes off.
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Jul 18, 2011 15:48
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Jul 18, 2011 15:58
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Torsade de Pointes posted:The perk for getting through 5 missions with no alarms and fewer than 5 kills was way easier for me to get than that One with the Shadows perk, which is also an achievement. Getting through 3 missions without being spotted at all and fewer than 5 kills is pretty tough cause there are so few missions where it's doable. The no alarms is much easier cause you can just take everyone out before they raise the alarm or shoot the alarm itself before it goes off. How exactly do alarms work? Sometimes people just seem to radio instantly, other times They will never radio in.
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Jul 18, 2011 16:05
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the_american_dream posted:wait whoa stop. You can shoot alarms? Yeah, and if an alarm panel is disabled, enemies can't use it to sound the alarm.
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Jul 18, 2011 16:23
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You can also remote-hack which won't prevent them from activating it but will allow you to turn it on and off at your leisure afterward.
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Jul 18, 2011 16:37
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Rascyc posted:Also I feel really bad for whoever designed and animated Sis ... despite being the most expressive character in the entire game, she ends up only appearing in a select handful of scenes it seems? Agreed, it bugged me that despite even being on the cover of the game, Sis's character felt like a big cut-down storyline. One time was the thing with her giving Thorton the St. George locket, which Albatross and Thorton can have this big thing over, but just ends up leading to a big dead end. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jul 18, 2011 |
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Jul 18, 2011 17:11
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Supporting characters being interesting doesn't oblige them to tell you their life's story.
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Jul 18, 2011 17:18
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the_american_dream posted:wait whoa stop. You can shoot alarms? 
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Jul 18, 2011 17:21
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the_american_dream posted:wait whoa stop. You can shoot alarms? Even better, you can sneak up to it and set an incendiary grenade by one, then sneak back to the start and run in, guns blazing. The first unfortunate soul to get to that alarm gets set on fire. Ninja rear end in a top hat Thorton is awesome.
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Jul 18, 2011 17:44
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Soonmot posted:If you don't fire the missile at the castle when you play that level, you're doing it wrong. That's truth right here.
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Jul 18, 2011 17:47
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Doc Hawkins posted:Yeah, and if an alarm panel is disabled, enemies can't use it to sound the alarm. This changes everything. Can some badguys just use personal radios though?
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Jul 18, 2011 17:54
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ShineDog posted:This changes everything. They alert other nearby guards, but not the whole level.
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Jul 18, 2011 18:04
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Soonmot posted:They alert other nearby guards, but not the whole level. Is this different in the training area? if the guy in parkers training sees you it just goes off, even if he doesn't hit the button.
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Jul 18, 2011 18:11
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Man, I bought this game back when it came out but never really got around to play it. Anything I should know before diving in?
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Jul 18, 2011 18:39
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Syvere posted:Man, I bought this game back when it came out but never really got around to play it. Anything I should know before diving in? Everything in the OP and the second post with all the hints and tips.
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Jul 18, 2011 18:41
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ChuckDHead posted:Everything in the OP and the second post with all the hints and tips. I meant story-wise. Any recommended allies and such for the first playthrough?
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Jul 18, 2011 19:01
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Syvere posted:I meant story-wise. Any recommended allies and such for the first playthrough? Seriously, do whatever feels right. There's not really a way to go wrong, and the story will make good sense regardless of what you choose.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:06
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Syvere posted:I meant story-wise. Any recommended allies and such for the first playthrough?
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Jul 18, 2011 19:08
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Syvere posted:I meant story-wise. Any recommended allies and such for the first playthrough? Mina gets mad when you act in perfectly legitimate self-defense against people who are shooting at you, so I'd say gently caress her. Figuratively, of course. Also Heck owns too much to not have.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:21
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Hannibal Smith posted:Just pick whichever options feel natural, and let the story flow. This game pretty much rewards every option, both gameplay and storywise, so it's best to just go with whatever for the first playthrough. Yeah, it's kind of amazing how organic the story feels, even when you choose options almost at random.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:26
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worlds gayest baby posted:Mina gets mad when you act in perfectly legitimate self-defense against people who are shooting at you, so I'd say gently caress her. Figuratively, of course. As a stealth videogame protagonist, it is completely within your power to not kill the pixels shooting at you, especially when they're not terrorist pixels. Don't blame the fictional victims for your lack of restraint.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:29
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Syvere posted:I meant story-wise. Any recommended allies and such for the first playthrough? No because the point of the game is its reactive story
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Syvere posted:I meant story-wise. Any recommended allies and such for the first playthrough? That's what's so great about this game, no matter who you choose as your allies or enemies, you'll get an interesting playthrough and ending. Though personally I recommend any course of action that involves as much of Steven Heck as possible. That said, I guess if you want to be a violent lunatic, your friends are more likely to be Heck and SIE, while a stealthier, lower-death-count approach means that Mina and G22 will be more likely to favour you. But seriously, just do whatever feels right. Piss off or befriend whoever you want and see what happens. Unlike every other time in your life that you'll be told this, there is no wrong answer.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:33
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I still can't believe the game lets you do this at the Rome chateau party. http://steamcommunity.com/id/scorch/screenshot/540648201821806274/ Murderous psychopath Thorton strikes again.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:35
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Doc Hawkins posted:As a stealth videogame protagonist, it is completely within your power to not kill the pixels shooting at you, especially when they're not terrorist pixels. Don't blame the fictional victims for your lack of restraint. Like gently caress if I'm going to reload the last checkpoint just because some trigger happy cop decides to instantly start shooting at me. Rushing him would be suicide, and besides, such a reckless and irresponsible officer is a danger to the community anyway! Don't hate me for taking a trigger happy psycho out of the good city of Taipei before he blasts some kids for stealing candy. worlds gayest baby fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jul 18, 2011 |
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worlds gayest baby posted:Like gently caress if I'm going to reload the last checkpoint just because some trigger happy cop decides to instantly start shooting at me. Rushing him would be suicide, and besides, such a reckless and irresponsible officer is a danger to the community anyway! You have tranq bullets for the pistol and yes, you can just rush him and punch him to unconsciousness.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:52
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worlds gayest baby posted:Like gently caress if I'm going to reload the last checkpoint just because some trigger happy cop decides to instantly start shooting at me. Rushing him would be suicide, and besides, such a reckless and irresponsible officer is a danger to the community anyway! Sorry you're not used to your actions having consequences, dude.
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Crappy Jack posted:Sorry you're not used to your actions having consequences, dude. Protip: I was just kidding. It would have been nice to have a handler who didn't flip the gently caress out when I returned fire at someone, though.
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Stabbing Rent-A-Cops is what good spies do.
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worlds gayest baby posted:Protip: I was just kidding. If you're using pistols, then Tranquiliser bullets don't count as kills, even if you aim for a critical headshot. That's probably the only reason Mina still liked me by the end of the game, since my approach to stealth is more "leave nobody awake" than "let nobody know you were there". Oh, and rather obviously, when sneaking up on someone, use the silent takedown instead of the utterly brutal knife kill.
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worlds gayest baby posted:Don't hate me for taking a trigger happy psycho out of the good city of Taipei before he blasts some kids for stealing candy. Wellll, that's a good point, unless you were visibly armed and dressed like a paramilitary terrorist? But it's not like the NSA and the US Marines are suddenly purely blameless organizations. The complete effective capture of Alpha Protocol by American business interests pissed some of my Thortons off quite mightily.
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Jul 18, 2011 20:14
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Huh, the end game sniper tower door is not bashable again. I have both EMPs and martial arts skill.
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Soonmot posted:Huh, the end game sniper tower door is not bashable again. I have both EMPs and martial arts skill. Seriously, what is up with that? To do it the easy way, just hide behind the rocks at the very furthest point from the tower and shoot where the target marker is.
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