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kalvick posted:This poo poo depends on the dealer you take it too. I posted a while back, that a Ford Racing supercharger, installed by Ford certified mechanics at a Ford dealership, where you purchased a N/A mustang, would not be warrantied. I don't get it, but there you go. The Ford supercharger keeps the warranty the powertrain for 36,000 miles if I installed by a Ford dealer. It's not like you "install" a tune you literally plug it in and go. I'll be by the dealership later this week so I'll just ask the tech's myself. Also, Bama/AM claims they'll warranty any tune they've sold for the value of the motor which is around 8 grand. It'd be stupid if Ford can't do the same.
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I just came in this thread to say I got next to an '11 5.0 in ~my e55~ today and gave it a friendly blip of the throttle. It gave a friendly roar of exhaust back. God that motor sounds so good. I really want Ford to supercharge that 5.0 and drop it in the Taurus for an AMG / M5 / Jag XFR competitor.
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Nait Sirhc posted:I really want Ford to supercharge that 5.0 and drop it in the Taurus for an AMG / M5 / Jag XFR competitor. Can the 5.0 fit in a transverse application?
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kimbo305 posted:Can the 5.0 fit in a transverse application? The Lincoln Continental had a transverse 4.6L DOHC engine: 
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kronix posted:However, how come nobody can tell me if the FRPP tune is completely immune and Ford will honor the warranty. I guess it's because the TSB that Ford put out basically said "Aftermarket mods/tuning = bye bye warranty".
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Jul 25, 2011 05:47
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kronix posted:The Ford supercharger keeps the warranty the powertrain for 36,000 miles if I installed by a Ford dealer. It's not like you "install" a tune you literally plug it in and go. I'll be by the dealership later this week so I'll just ask the tech's myself. Where are you reading the warranty for powertrain? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=12409 Warranty is 1 year/12k miles for the supercharger, why would they care to warranty your engine for 3 years/36k miles.
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Jul 25, 2011 06:51
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kronix posted:http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/2011-mustangs-354/786520-cause-8-a.html If you want to read about this with actual info from people in the know, go read this thread instead.
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kronix posted:The Ford supercharger keeps the warranty the powertrain for 36,000 miles if I installed by a Ford dealer. It's not like you "install" a tune you literally plug it in and go. I'll be by the dealership later this week so I'll just ask the tech's myself. I dont know if I believe this. If a ford tech installs a supercharger they are gonna use a canned tune. its not like dealers have dyno's. I do agree that there is a warranty on the supercharger and there is a warranty on the car. but putting the two together mutually terminates the warranty. If the engine goes, was it the super chargers fault? if the super charger goes is it the cars fault? then the dealer will poo poo on you and just void out the warranty and say pay us alot of dollars and we will fix it. In all, Im just saying the Ford dealers are really hit or miss, you may get a dealer that will be Mod friendly, or you may get a dealer that only likes dealing with 100% stock cars. kalvick fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jul 25, 2011 |
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kalvick posted:I dont know if I believe this. If a ford tech installs a supercharger they are gonna use a canned tune. its not like dealers have dyno's. 12 month /12,000 mile warranty (when installed by a Ford or Lincoln dealer) You basically exchange your 36 month/36,000 mile powertrain warranty for a 12 month/12,000 mile powertrain warranty once the dealership installs the supercharger. You'd have a pretty cut and dry case of false advertising and bait and switch if Ford denied your warranty if your engine pops under warranty with their supercharger kit that was installed by your dealer.
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frozenphil posted:12 month /12,000 mile warranty (when installed by a Ford or Lincoln dealer) The powertrain warranty is 5 year/60k miles so I was wrong assuming that you'd get 3/5 of the warranty instead of 1/5 when you had the supercharger installed. My mistake. Either way, any warranty on the supercharger is pretty good, you certainly won't get an engine warranty anywhere else but I have to imagine that it's going to cost a lot of money to have the dealer install the supercharger.
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Well I guess I've decided against installing a new top myself. Anyone happen to know a good place around Phoenix AZ to get a top installed on an '03?
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Lowclock posted:Well I guess I've decided against installing a new top myself. Anyone happen to know a good place around Phoenix AZ to get a top installed on an '03? I cant picture it being that hard to install? is the convertable frame broken or something?
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kalvick posted:I cant picture it being that hard to install? is the convertable frame broken or something? No, the top is just tearing and shrinking from being in the AZ sun without even being cleaned, let alone conditioned. I've looked at some youtube videos and it just seems like a pain in the rear end since you have to use staples and poo poo to make sure it's adjusted correctly. If I hosed it up I would be SOL and just out the money for it, while if I get it done professionally it will have a warranty from the shop and manufacturer. I did find one place called "Auto Spa" or something, who said they would do an OEM (Robbins?) top, installed with a 3 year warranty for $750. That's the cheapest I've found and with the warranty and being OEM it seems like an alright deal, unless someone else knows a better place I can't find.
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Yea I see what you mean. if you mess up just a little you get rain in your car. Google searching Robbins, it seems to be a convertable top specialist. http://www.robbinsautotopco.com/ looking at Robbins distributors I found this http://www.topsonline.com/inner.html?mode=deptmake&make=27&dept=1 For a 99-11 mustangs the price seems to be in the upper $500's or $600's for a complete Robbins cloth, glass, & defroster kit. So it looks like $750 would be a fair price. for the parts + 2 or 3 hours to install it.
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 I really wish I had found a Boss at a deal:http://www.speedsportlife.com/2011/08/02/track-tested-2012-ford-mustang-boss-302/ Makes it sound so awesome.
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quote:After a couple of warm-up laps, Michael was able to set a fast lap of 1:46.6 in the M3. Yes, the Mustang Boss 302 beat the gold standard of German performance by over a full second, and that’s without the help of the optional Boss 302 TracKey that provides an even more aggressive software tune.
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kimbo305 posted:
There's an orange one with all the options literally across the street from my apartment. I can see it while sitting on the couch in my living room, taunting me.
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kalvick posted:Google searching Robbins, it seems to be a convertable top specialist. They're an aftermarket convertible top manufacturer - they sell shitloads of Miata tops, and are usually considered the best in that market (I liked my Robbins top better than the OEM '99 Mazda top). When I needed to get the top on my Miata replaced, I took it to a Miata-specific shop that I highly doubt would touch a Mustang convertible top. That said, they charged about $1000 for that job - insurance had paid me $1500 for it so I didn't mind - and I don't know if the Mustang top is more or less complex. Possibly look for a good body shop? Where in Phoenix are you trying to look?
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It's $52,000 for a Boss 302 up here in Canuckistan... I still really want one. Maybe if I land a massive-rear end contract soon...
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kimbo305 posted:
From that article: quote:Exhaust gasses escape the Boss 302’s engine by way of an all-new quad exhaust system. This new exhaust system features two pipes that exit from the rear of the car, while two pipes exit just aft of the doors below the rockers. A not-so-secret secret of the Boss 302’s exhaust system is that the side exhaust pipes have removable baffles that can further uncork the sound of the 5.0. That is the coolest damned thing... I want to see one in person! Definitely gonna be test driving these when I'm car shopping.
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IOwnCalculus posted:They're an aftermarket convertible top manufacturer - they sell shitloads of Miata tops, and are usually considered the best in that market (I liked my Robbins top better than the OEM '99 Mazda top). I'm over in Glendale so a bit NW of actual downtown Phoenix. I didn't know if Robbins is the OEM on Mustangs, that's just what is on there now and I don't know if it was replaced or not. They were throwing around the words original and OEM. I should probably call just to confirm on what brand it is. Good to know it seems like an alright price as long as it's a good brand though. It's not my car it's actually for my father's birthday, so I want to be sure it's done well. If you know a good body shop around Phoenix somewhere I'd love to hear it. All I can seem to find are lovely volume insurance shops or some uninsured Mexicans spraying house paint in an unlit garage.
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Lowclock posted:If you know a good body shop around Phoenix somewhere I'd love to hear it. All I can seem to find are lovely volume insurance shops or some uninsured Mexicans spraying house paint in an unlit garage. The one I like is Gateway Autobody, but as I feared it's about as far from Glendale as it gets - it's near Queen Creek.
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frozenphil posted:There's an orange one with all the options literally across the street from my apartment. I can see it while sitting on the couch in my living room, taunting me. I want one in Yellow Blaze Tri-coat so bad I can taste it... As an aside, it looks like the new GTs are already showing up as unmarked patrol cars. Louisville Metro here in Kentucky is running three unmarked GTs now.
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MrSaturn posted:That is the coolest damned thing... I want to see one in person! Definitely gonna be test driving these when I'm car shopping. Here's the exhaust setup from below:  Here's the "baffle" that's between the side dumps and the main pipe:  If you've ever seen an exhaust cutout before then you'll recognize the shape. Ford designed this thing to be removed.
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frozenphil posted:Here's the exhaust setup from below: Taking those off technically makes you non-street legal right?
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shodanjr_gr posted:Taking those off technically makes you non-street legal right? Why? It's after the cat.
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Some states limit spl of exhausts (california mainly), of course for some reason i dont think it applies to fuckers on their harleys easily pushing 150db at their exhaust
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Noise? I think there are federal and/or state standards for stock exhaust volume levels that pulling those baffles out would potentially violate (i.e. same reason given for why the Corvette's factory cutouts aren't just open all the time)
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frozenphil posted:Why? It's after the cat. I don't think the cops would care why your pipes are setting off car alarms.
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RockSmart posted:I don't think the cops would care why your pipes are setting off car alarms. Sans mufflers with a cat isn't really that loud.
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frozenphil posted:Why? It's after the cat. Why would Ford have those restrictors on in the first place then?
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shodanjr_gr posted:Why would Ford have those restrictors on in the first place then? so you can do free mods! and also to remove extra weight!
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shodanjr_gr posted:Why would Ford have those restrictors on in the first place then? There are federal noise standards, but they only apply to OEMs. I guess I've just never lived in a state where they care about how loud your car is. Besides, they honestly aren't that much louder with the restrictors removed. With: http://youtu.be/9LhSoI12PVA Without: http://youtu.be/h4RxkdyiDJc
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I'm thinking about getting a 2012 Mustang and I saw there is a glass roof option. I've never seen this in person, does anyone have any opinions?
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frozenphil posted:Here's the exhaust setup from below: quote:
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HiddenReplaced posted:I'm thinking about getting a 2012 Mustang and I saw there is a glass roof option. I've never seen this in person, does anyone have any opinions? Adds weight, lets sunlight in, costs a lot. I dont see the point.
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frozenphil posted:There are federal noise standards, but they only apply to OEMs. I guess I've just never lived in a state where they care about how loud your car is. FRPP has an exhaust which is 49 state legal i think, and thats because of california noise restrictions. http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/M5230MGTLA/2011-Mustang-Gt-50L-Ford-Racing-Sport-Axle-Back-Exhaust-Kit http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/M5230MGTCA/2011-Mustang-Gt-50L-Ford-Racing-Touring-Axle-Back-Exhaust
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Personally I'd wait until what Ford does in 2013, since I think the GT500 refresh will be in that model year. I know Nurbbubrubrurrbgubrgring times must be taken with huge grains of salt but according to some guy who watched the run the red prototype Ford had running out there ran a 7:30. Not bad for a $50k car, and much faster than the Camaro.
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HiddenReplaced posted:I'm thinking about getting a 2012 Mustang and I saw there is a glass roof option. I've never seen this in person, does anyone have any opinions? If you like it, get it. I have it on my Shelby and it's nice. Yeah, it costs extra but you can always haggle to make up the difference, and the tinting on the glass blocks out something like 96% of UV, and 90% of IR rays so the interior doesn't really get any hotter.
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Q_res posted:As an aside, it looks like the new GTs are already showing up as unmarked patrol cars. Louisville Metro here in Kentucky is running three unmarked GTs now. Ft. Carson has had one since basically right after they hit street, whenever a soldier does enough damage that they can't pay the brand new spent-all-my-deployment-money car is the first thing the MPs try to take, and they actually have some white hot unmarked cars.
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