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fnordcircle
Jul 7, 2004

PTUI

NC-17 posted:

Matt Cassel looked like a bumbling retard in most of his preseason showings and was worth a 2nd round pick eventually. So ergo Hoyer is worth two 1st's at least.

Ok I get that people get amped up for preseason heroes (and also that you are joking) but man, I can't believe people are already talking about when Mallett takes over for Brady in 2015 and what we can get for Hoyer in a trade.

At this rate by the 3rd preseason game people will be debating which fingers Mallett will be wearing his rings on.

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tk
Dec 10, 2003

Nap Ghost
In this post, we demonstrate a poor understanding of both the world and statistics.

quote:

If you put the odds at PSU landing either Urban Meyer, Tony Dungy, or Jon Gruden at about  a 1 in 8 chance, or say 12-15% for each of them . . .  . . . when you add it all up statistically, you get pretty close to 40-60 / 50-50 for landing one of them.

All three of them will at lease have the conversation w/ PSU when that time comes . . .


Just saying.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
It never ceases to amaze me.

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

MorningView posted:

Last year I only kept this open because it made *entry removed* mad.

Beautiful Ninja
Mar 26, 2009

Five time FCW Champion...of my heart.

tk posted:

In this post, we demonstrate a poor understanding of both the world and statistics.

That's on the verge of Steiner Math there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI&feature=watch_response

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

tk posted:

In this post, we demonstrate a poor understanding of both the world and statistics.
My god, realistically there's a 2-3% chance of any current NFL head coach going there, meaning it's practically 100%!!

Larch
Dec 20, 2004

BEE LOVER

MorningView posted:

Last year I only kept this open because it made Pop Dog mad.

Yes, aggravating his negative tendencies towards angryposting. Enjoying his rants and raves. What did he get banned for again?

RustySeabutter
Nov 11, 2000

Puncho!
shhh we're not allowed to talk about it

HeroOfTheRevolution
Apr 26, 2008

DO YALL WANT A HAM posted:

"Get me Brian Hoyer!!!!" - many an NFL GM

You laugh, but acquiring Brian Hoyer as the QB of the future was actually part of Michael Lombardi's pitch to the 49ers when he was interviewed as a GM candidate.

dubdrome711
Mar 10, 2007

by angerbeet

Patsfans posted:

Call me a homer if you want, but the biggest challenger to the Patriots is Themselves. There better then the other 15 teams in the AFC. Our 2nd and 3rd units would be a playoff contending club.

oh is that so

B.F. Hoodrich
May 16, 2006
welp

tk posted:

In this post, we demonstrate a poor understanding of both the world and statistics.

:stare:
dear god

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

tk posted:

In this post, we demonstrate a poor understanding of both the world and statistics.

Casinos and state lotteries love this guy. :pseudo:

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass

dubdrome711 posted:

oh is that so
Looks like support for the theoretical existence of a level above "homer".

FeedingHam2Cats
Nov 10, 2009

AdamD posted:

shhh we're not allowed to talk about it

I demand he be unbanned! Right now!

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass

MorningView posted:

Last year I only kept this open because it made Pop Dog mad.
The 2011 version would be the ultimate parachute account trap.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
I was kidding, you dummies.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

A PFT post about the potential for women officials. What could possibly go wrong?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/13/female-officials-coming-soon-to-the-nfl/

quote:

I’ll be honest and say I really can’t stand the idea of women in the NFL. I am personally sick of the myriad female commentators. Every network has a bunch of them, and they talk out their @sses in my opinion. Why do women have to feel they need to infiltrate every conceivable male bastion. I watch the NFL to find an escape from the yammering, know-it-all females that dominate the world. I couldn’t care less if you want to outlaw the stupid cheerleaders, too. That whole bit is asinine. The fans don’t need “help” to know when to cheer or boo.

I wish women would frikken let men have at least one or two things where we can escape from them. I mean it. I’m sorry if this makes me a dinosaur, but for the love of God- I am so sick of this PC world. In TRUTH, do you really think someone like Erin Andrews is actually BETTER (more well-versed in football knowledge, more eloquent, etc.) than the one thousand males who would give anything to have that job? Truthfully? She is there because the honchos think some tart with blonde hair and a nice rack will mean more fans. I kind of doubt even the lowest knuckle-dragging neanderthal actually watches one NFL broadcast over another because they trot out some less-qualified chick out in front of the cameras. Gimme a break.

If the NFL really does FORCE female officials down the public’s throats, they should be ashamed of themselves. Women have, like minorities of all types, been able to steal jobs from many far more qualified men, ever since all this affirmative action crap started. I personally know highly educated, and vastly superior, qualified professionals who got passed over because the college where I worked HAS to hire far less qualified minorities. Where is the justice in that? And the students suffer, through no fault of their own. Really makes sense.

It’s one thing if someone is TRULY the MOST qualified. Then, I say hire them. But do not tell me there are women refs out there who are honestly superior in qualifications to the hundreds of male candidates who want that job just as badly. It seems to me that men let women walk all over them in this country. And we hold them and other minorities to a much lower standard, which has made our country even weaker. Makes me sick.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Where is that quote from? It's not in the article or the comments.

balancedbias
May 2, 2009
$$$$$$$$$

You heard it here first, folks: Women are the minority of the planet :psypop:

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Yes it is. I can't link directly to the comment.

Robert Chandler says:
Aug 13, 2011 6:21 PM

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Ozu posted:

Yes it is. I can't link directly to the comment.

Robert Chandler says:
Aug 13, 2011 6:21 PM

Oh, I guess the page hadn't fully loaded when I searched for some of it :sweatdrop:

But in return.. you can link directly to the comment if you know of secret ancient URL tricks:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/13/female-officials-coming-soon-to-the-nfl/#comment-1195171

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

quote:

Many people will use this as yet another tired excuse to (yawn) rail against the inequities of the NCAA system itself. These people simply miss the point entirely. Spare me. The players know the rules. They know the conditions that they voluntarily agree to work under. They chose this life. If they also chose to violate their agreements, then that is not somehow the NCAAs fault. As draconian as the rules appear, the rules exist because this sort of thing would only be worse if the rules were less strict.
We also do not at this point know the allegations are true. On the one hand, we have the word of a convicted felon who is doing 20 years – essentially for lying. So how do we know he’s not lying now? On the other hand, to be honest, the allegations do not have the ring of bullshit. I wish they did. They don’t.
We also will have a large group of people who will take disproportionate glee in seeing Miami, of all programs, fall. The outrage will be louder, longer, and certainly much more shrill simply because it’s the Hurricanes. Stories need heroes and villains. In college football, Notre Dame and Penn State go out of their way to be the old-fashioned, milk-drinking hero in the white hat. Penn State pulls it off. Notre Dame simply come off as sanctimonious assholes. On the other side of the spectrum, the hero is boring without a great villain, and NOBODY plays a better villain than the University of Miami. We’re everything class-warfare salivates over – a small wealthy, elite private school (and worse, one who is unashamed to promote black athletes) who comes into your house and beats you. You used to hate the Oakland Raiders. You hate Duke Basketball. You hate the Philadelphia Flyers. You hated the Boston Celtics in the 80s and the Miami Heat today. Why? Because they wear the black hat. But it means that when a program like that falters – the fans will take disproportionate glee in its demise. Sports Illustrated will give you comfort while they snipe at us. They’re just mad that some other publication got the scoop, not them. But they’ll take their shots like they always do. You love to hate us and the college football landscape is a more boring place when we’re not on top.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


NC-17 posted:



Honest to god until this point I never knew Miami was private :psyduck:

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass

Ozu posted:

A PFT post about the potential for women officials. What could possibly go wrong?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/13/female-officials-coming-soon-to-the-nfl/

Sports face-off: this guy vs. Jackie MacMullan.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

quote:

Where can I find a Power Rankings with the Bills not #30, #31, or last

Thank you

:smith:

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass

Tremendous Taste posted:

:smith:

2008 wasn't that long ago so there must be archived power rankings from then; weren't they 5-1 at one point?

That was cruel, I'm sorry :(

Serisothikos fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Aug 17, 2011

The Big Jesus
Oct 29, 2007

#essereFerrari
There is nothing I'd like to see more than a white boy (not just any white boy but a ginger!) in the backfield running all over defenses. Unfortunately, in modern football, that just doesn't happen with 211 lb white boys. ~230 lbs is where it's at for whitey (see Jacob Hester and Toby what's his face) because size/power is the only way to make up for a lack of pure speed/shiftiness. I don't know if a white RB under 220 lbs in the past 10+ years has ever started for any BCS team (excluding BYU, etc) and there is a reason for that: The position of the belly button.


I thought people at my school (GT) were supposed to be smart :(

venutolo
Jun 4, 2003

Dinosaur Gum

The Big Jesus posted:

...and there is a reason for that: The position of the belly button.


I thought people at my school (GT) were supposed to be smart :(

It was probably a Management major. I really don't understand what position of the belly button has to do with anything, so I'm baffled.

Oodles of Wootles
Nov 8, 2008

safe

The Big Jesus posted:

I don't know if a white RB under 220 lbs in the past 10+ years has ever started for any BCS team (excluding BYU, etc) and there is a reason for that: The position of the belly button.

I'm sorry, what?

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Oodles of Wootles posted:

I'm sorry, what?

That's a new one to me too. A google search for belly button racism revealed (maybe :nws: due to a picture) this.

quote:

French medical anatomist Etienne Serres really did argue that black males are primitive because the distance between navel and penis remains small throughout life, while white children begin with small separation but increase it during growth—rising belly button as a mark of progress.

Were they referencing that?

e: Or is it common knowledge of some sort that black guys have low belly buttons? I can honestly say I've never paid any attention to anyone's belly button position.

Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 17, 2011

venutolo
Jun 4, 2003

Dinosaur Gum

Grittybeard posted:

e: Or is it common knowledge of some sort that black guys have low belly buttons? I can honestly say I've never paid any attention to anyone's belly button position.

I've only lived in the South for 13 years, so I'm not completely studied up on all racist claims, but that is completely new to me.

The Wild Man of YOLO
Apr 20, 2004

A little cross-country, gentlemen?

THE ANSWER TO THE GREAT BELLY BUTTON CONUNDRUM

news.discovery.com posted:

Scientists have found the reason why some athletes dominate on the running track and others in the swimming pool: It's in their belly buttons, a study published Monday shows.

What's important is not whether an athlete has an innie or an outie but where his or her navel is in relation to the rest of the body, says the study published in the International Journal of Design and Nature and Ecodynamics

The navel is the center of gravity of the body, and given two runners or swimmers of the same height, one black and one white, "what matters is not total height but the position of the belly button, or center of gravity," Duke University professor Andre Bejan, the lead author of the study, told AFP.

It so happens that in the architecture of the human body of West African-origin runners, the center of gravity is significantly higher than in runners of European origin," which puts them at an advantage in sprints on the track, he said.

Individuals of West African-origin have longer legs than European-origin athletes, which means their belly buttons are three centimeters (1.18 inches) higher than whites', said Bejan.

That means the black athletes have a "hidden height" that is three percent greater than whites', which gives them a significant speed advantage on the track.

And so forth: http://news.discovery.com/human/belly-buttons-sports-athletes.html

e: Apparently this means white people are better swimmers? v:shobon:v

The Wild Man of YOLO fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Aug 18, 2011

The Big Jesus
Oct 29, 2007

#essereFerrari

venutolo posted:

It was probably a Management major. I really don't understand what position of the belly button has to do with anything, so I'm baffled.

Yeah I've never heard of the belly button thing before in my life and I've lived in the south for 23 years now...

Also good guess on that. His username is "HelluvaMGTmjr"... This guy has always posted against any white player and has been insisting this whole offseason that our starting running back is white just to make our black backups work harder because our coach is trying to make a point (or something along those lines).

He just keeps convincing himself that our current starter isn't good at all, despite the coaches and defensive players saying he hits the hole the hardest, which is his primary function.

venutolo
Jun 4, 2003

Dinosaur Gum

The Big Jesus posted:

Also good guess on that. His username is "HelluvaMGTmjr"...
Ha. That made my day.

The Wild Man of YOLO
Apr 20, 2004

A little cross-country, gentlemen?

The Big Jesus posted:

Yeah I've never heard of the belly button thing before in my life and I've lived in the south for 23 years now...

See my post above. It's not necessarily a slur (well, maybe the way it was used, I suppose it sorta could be).

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Yeah I'm a white protestant multi-generation Southerner who's family tree might be closer to a straight line and I've never heard of the belly button thing before...

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

DJExile posted:

Honest to god until this point I never knew Miami was private :psyduck:
Obviously you never watched The U. It's an extremely rich, white private school in an extremely rich, white area with a football team that matched it until Schnellenberger came along.

ChickenMedium
Sep 2, 2001
Forum Veteran And Professor Emeritus of Condiment Studies

Chimeric posted:

THE ANSWER TO THE GREAT BELLY BUTTON CONUNDRUM


And so forth: http://news.discovery.com/human/belly-buttons-sports-athletes.html

e: Apparently this means white people are better swimmers? v:shobon:v

I like how they mention that blacks statistically have longer legs than whites, but still it's the belly button thing that gives them the advantage?

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The Wild Man of YOLO
Apr 20, 2004

A little cross-country, gentlemen?

ChickenMedium posted:

I like how they mention that blacks statistically have longer legs than whites, but still it's the belly button thing that gives them the advantage?

Well the belly button is representing the center of gravity, which is apparently the important thing. Leg length just serves to raise or lower that. So if you put a black athlete next to a white athlete of identical height but the black athlete has slightly longer legs (compared to the white athlete's slightly longer torso), he'll also have a slightly higher center of gravity. So it's not about having longer legs, it's about having proportionally longer legs. At least, that's how I interpret it.

Or maybe it's all a big racist thing, I don't know, I'm pretty tired right now

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