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Celebrations ongoing in Benghazi. This must be a pretty proud moment for the Libyan rebels. Quite inspiring. I'm moved.
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AJA is now reporting mortars being fired into the Tajoura district by Gaddafi forces. If you've not seen it, here's my twitter list of journalists in Libya.
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Aug 21, 2011 00:57
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Brown Moses posted:AJA is now reporting mortars being fired into the Tajoura district by Gaddafi forces. If you've not seen it, here's my twitter list of journalists in Libya. Is there a reason why AJE's coverage seems to be so different?
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I find AJA has a somewhat less strict editorial policy than AJE.
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Brown Moses I just wanted to join in with the people thanking you for all your work in this thread. Incredible job.
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At least this should all be over before my wife gives birth.
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From Twitter:quote:Caller from Tripoli to BBC Confirms Soug al jum'a, one of the largest districts of Tripoli is under their control quote:barrages of sustained gunfire and sporadic explosions can be heard in the distance in Tripoli.
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Brown Moses posted:At least this should all be over before my wife gives birth. Hey, congratulations!
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Brown Moses posted:At least this should all be over before my wife gives birth. The fact that you are the person to go to for this along with that makes your job even more impressive. You're doing a hell of a job. You should do this for a living.
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Been  ing this thread all night.Watching history being made owns.
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Man, the defected guy Jalloud is on TV right now and he is angry as hell.
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Xandu posted:Man, the defected guy Jalloud is on TV right now and he is angry as hell. Who was he again? I'm terrible with names both inside and outside of everyday life.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/20/abdel-salam-jalloud-defection-libya Used to be really important in the Gaddafi government and helped bring him to power.
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Speaking of flags, the Israeli flag hanging out of the embassy in Giza, Egypt has been removed. Some guy climbed up 8-10 stories with no equipment and removed it, to wild cheers from the crowd below. Protest/sit-in is still in full-swing at the embassy with somewhere between 6000-10000 people right in front of it. More protests all over Egypt over the death of the 5 Egyptian soldiers by Israeli fire. In another twist, the government has definitely decided to recall it's ambassador from Israel. The protests all over Egypt are calling for the Israeli ambassador to be expelled from Egypt as well. This situation is getting a lot hotter.
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Gadaffi forces have retaken an area of Besra, according to the rebels.quote:Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 04:36 - Libya They're not quite dead yet
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Saif al-Gaddafi is speaking right now.
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Namarrgon posted:Isn't the whole idea of codenames for operations so that you can't figure out what they are about from the name alone? Code Names just aren't what they used to be. Back in WWII you had Operation Super Gymnast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gymnast . The invasion of Nicaragua? Operation Just Cause? (Hey guys, our cause is just) (Why are we doing this? Just 'cause http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coalition_military_operations_of_the_Iraq_War#2003 Then in OIF you had "Operation Northern Delay". C'mon...I mean a more competent army would've manhandled any forces who'd telegraphed their plans beforehand. Although "Operation All-American Tiger" was pretty  As far as I see it, the rebels are people fighting to overthrow a mad tyrant who'd neglected many of them for decades, but a lot of the TNC are opportunistic, privatization-hungry neoliberal scum of the kind who'd jump a sinking ship only to say to the captain of the rescue vessel "I've taken the liberty of drafting you a new economic plan". They're not the leaders of the rebellion, they just like acting like it. If that makes me LF as gently caress, so be it. e: what's Saif saying? I'd love to see this end Reservoir Dogs style with Saif, Moammar and Khamis, Zappatista fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Aug 21, 2011 |
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What's Saif saying? CNN is showing boring footage of earlier today and I don't know what else to watch for decent news.
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Ham posted:Speaking of flags, the Israeli flag hanging out of the embassy in Giza, Egypt has been removed. Some guy climbed up 8-10 stories with no equipment and removed it, to wild cheers from the crowd below. Protest/sit-in is still in full-swing at the embassy with somewhere between 6000-10000 people right in front of it. More protests all over Egypt over the death of the 5 Egyptian soldiers by Israeli fire. The last thing the world needs is a poo poo show between Egypt and Israel right now. If Egypt and Israel go to war, the Palestinians can kiss whatever state they want goodbye, and a poo poo ton of Israelis and Egyptians will die for nothing.
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empiricus posted:What's Saif saying? CNN is showing boring footage of earlier today and I don't know what else to watch for decent news. Normally I'd say watch Al Jazeera, but they aren't covering it right now. Edit: Still seriously go to http://english.aljazeera.net
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AJE's been weird today. They spent a long time focusing on the hikers in Iran and seem to have barely covered Libya.
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Xandu posted:AJE's been weird today. They spent a long time focusing on the hikers in Iran and seem to have barely covered Libya. They're covering it now, though they have only mentioned Saif's speech in passing so far. Edit: And as soon as I post they go to Somalia. Not that covering Somalia is inappropriate.
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Xandu posted:AJE's been weird today. They spent a long time focusing on the hikers in Iran and seem to have barely covered Libya. They were way better than CNN/MSNBC while I was watching, but still cut away to regular programming documentary blocks and an extended thing about some rugby and cricket matches or something. I remember AJE being a lot better during the height of the Egypt revolts.
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Taerkar posted:All that I can think of when I read your posts is this. How old and tattered is your Che shirt that you're wearing while you spout this stuff? I'm sorry man... I really am. I majored in political science and I was introduced to western Imperialism. Should I be getting a refund from my university? This is devastating for me, I didn't know that my university would lie to me. Should I be burning up my Noam Chomsky books? He must be an evil anti-humanitarian Nazi who made up the mythical tale of western imperialism so oppressed peoples all over the world won't be saved by MERICA.
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IRQ posted:They were way better than CNN/MSNBC while I was watching, but still cut away to regular programming documentary blocks and an extended thing about some rugby and cricket matches or something. I remember AJE being a lot better during the height of the Egypt revolts. They kind of hosed up at the beginning of the Tunisian revolt too. It seems that sometimes AJE gets blindsided and it takes them a day or so to realize what earth shattering development they should follow. As I said, after covering Libya they cut to the famine in Somalia, which is hardly unimportant. While I would prefer they not cover sports events while fighting has broken out in an important national capitol, it can be hard to retool shows on a moments notice, especially after they've worked hard to get content. There's no excuse for CNN though. These days it seems they just grab their news off the internet.
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KashiMane posted:I'm sorry man... I really am. I majored in political science and I was introduced to western Imperialism. Should I be getting a refund from my university? This is devastating for me, I didn't know that my university would lie to me. Should I be burning up my Noam Chomsky books? He must be an evil anti-humanitarian Nazi who made up the mythical tale of western imperialism so oppressed peoples all over the world won't be saved by MERICA. Ya your just a dick kid, got anything to add to the current events beyond your bullshit that you put in the thread?
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KashiMane posted:I'm sorry man... I really am. I majored in political science and I was introduced to western Imperialism. Should I be getting a refund from my university? This is devastating for me, I didn't know that my university would lie to me. Should I be burning up my Noam Chomsky books? He must be an evil anti-humanitarian Nazi who made up the mythical tale of western imperialism so oppressed peoples all over the world won't be saved by MERICA. Which Political Science department did you attend? What country?
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THE HORSES rear end posted:Which Political Science department did you attend? What country? State ran university in FLORIDA and this was taught in an entry level class (Dynamics of world politics), so... I guess I'll be turning in my university for going rogue, could they be tied with Al'Qaida maybe? What do we do about Noam Chomsky, he's a big believer in western imperialism, should we turn him in too? Darth123123 posted:Ya your just a dick kid, got anything to add to the current events beyond your bullshit that you put in the thread? I went to a university, so not only am I better than you, smarter than you, better looking than you, maybe even a couple inches longer down there than you, but your childish insults don't work on me. On a serious note though, try reading a Noam Chomsky book until it hurts too much. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Love that video of the kid using the green flag to wipe down cars on AJE. I hadn't been following the conflict that closely lately, but I was stunned after reading that the Nafusa group had annihilated regime resistance throughout the west, and then was equally stunned after they captured and actually held the cities & towns surrounding Tripoli. I like how the NTC was saying they were settling in for a siege while simultaneously (maybe, unconfirmed) smuggling in weapons for a general uprising. I thought I misread the BBC article today when they were saying there was major combat inside the city. That's way more organization than I would have thought possible on the rebel side.
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KashiMane posted:On a serious note though, try reading a Noam Chomsky book until it hurts too much. Do you think you're the first person in this thread to read Chomsky or something? Not everyone here is aching for a NATO-driven post-Gaddafi Libya, you know. That said this thread is one of the most up-to-date resources on an under-reported major global issue.
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MothraAttack posted:Do you think you're the first person in this thread to read Chomsky or something? Not everyone here is aching for a NATO-driven post-Gaddafi Libya, you know. I'm the first person to read Chomsky WHILE attending my university WHILE it was being infiltrated by Al'Qaida. Beat that. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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KashiMane posted:I'm the first person to read Chomsky WHILE attending my university WHILE it was being infiltrated by Al'Qaida. Beat that. You're really not contributing anything at all, please stop.
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How are u posted:You're really not contributing anything at all, please stop. Fine, I'll just come back to collect my apologies later. Humanitarian missions are awesome though, I totally feel for you guys. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Grumperfish posted:Love that video of the kid using the green flag to wipe down cars on AJE. Yeah, it looks like Gaddafi and his thugs were taken completely by surprise by the fairly well-organized 5th column that the rebels have in Tripoli. I hope that they can make the most of it and seize the capitol in the confusion.
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Arkane posted:Why do we have 24 hour news stations if none of the news stations are covering incredibly important world events? Celebrity weddings, bullshit American political pissing contests, reality show results. You know, the important stuff.
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