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KariOhki posted:I never really liked the battle system, it was such a bitch to get the correct item drops. This. If they had done away with the break system for farming monster parts, it would be great combat. Once you have all the skills you want, it does have great combat, but before then, it's often a hassle, which is unfortunate  It's also unfortunate that you couldn't equip Alicia with a bow, cause everyone knows Lenneth with a bow in VP1 was the best  poo poo. My PS2 is stored at my parent's house. Now I'm going to have to go get it at Thanksgiving and play this drat game again.
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I enjoyed the game quite a bit and the combat is definitely really cool. It's unfortunate the game pulls a lot of stupid BS on you in regards to the characters. That being, that Rufus is the only character who actually sticks with you the entire game. You even lose Alicia by the end of the game. Uhg. There's also the fact that Chapter 3 is almost half the game, and absolutely nothing interesting happens during it until the end.
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I started playing Two Worlds II multiplayer (by myself ) and it's pretty fun!
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al-azad posted:About 3 hours into the first Persona remake on PSP. Good god is this game ugly with a horrid font that's annoying to read. Is this thing as short as I think it is (only a handful of dungeons it seems)? I probably won't ever touch Snow Queen based on how frustrating I hear it is. If Persona is anything, it's not short. Some of the later dungeons in the game get absurdly long (I'm looking at you Deva Yuga and the final dungeon) and take upwards to a few hours to get through, with very few save points in them. To top it all off, the Snow Queen quest is even longer.
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sexual rickshaw posted:If Persona is anything, it's not short. Some of the later dungeons in the game get absurdly long (I'm looking at you Deva Yuga and the final dungeon) and take upwards to a few hours to get through, with very few save points in them. To top it all off, the Snow Queen quest is even longer. I played Persona PSP like a year ago and somehow managed to divine the correct route through Deva Yuga in ten minutes. Just ran from every battle and walked around randomly, suddenly I was at the boss door. The loving final dungeon, though... 
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I swear, Radiant Historia is like the Chrono Trigger sequel I should have got 10 years ago. Unfortunately I jumped out of a timeline before a new node was created so I gotta repeat a good hour plus a tough battle before getting to the same spot I was. Crap.
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KariOhki posted:I got to right before chapter 3 back when the game came out, and learned that there were still new mechanics to learn, and stopped playing. Plus the guide I was using was rewritten and changed a lot of strategies for parts I had already been through, like with what characters to pick from those dead bodies. I never really liked the battle system, it was such a bitch to get the correct item drops. Loved the first and the DS SRPG, though. You really don't need item drops, and if you really want them, there are very specific and easy ways to get them. I must imagine the FAQs you were using were pretty bad if they didn't give you those.
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casual poster posted:I trust Melvin's advice, just ordered from amazon. You won't be sorry. This game is so good I have two copies. One sealed and one opened that I use to play. Going to play it again today in fact.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:
As much as I hated Chapter 3, I gotta say that last dungeon in the Chapter really made up for it. Its easily my favorite dungeon in the game.
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People are always saying how Trails in the Sky 2 is an unlikely candidate for North American release because it's impossible to put dual UMD games on the PSN. Well, Final Fantasy Type 0 is doing it, so there goes that. http://rpgfan.com/news/2011/2149.html
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So I'm finally getting around to playing my PS3 games, the first one in my queue being Valkyria Chronicles. Enjoying it quite a bit, finding the missions even early on to be well balanced in terms of challenge and alternate methods to be cleared. All in all, a good time. And then I get to Chapter 7 
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I wrote a small walkthrough for that chapter a little earlier in the thread, which may be able to help.Cake Attack posted:Yeah sure, I'll see what all I can get across in text. First of all, you want mainly bring lancers, with along with Alicia and Rosie for extra Command Points. An engineer would probably be helpful as well. You want to start of with using your lancers to take out the turrets on the tank. There should be two lancers near where the tank is; using them you should be able to take out around 2 of the turrets. I can't guarantee anything, but using the button that changes targets to aim rather than auto-aiming seems to give better accuracy. Over the next couple of turns you should focus on using your lancers to take out all the turrets. If one or two die, it's no big deal, just try to get a unit next to them so they can retreat instead of permanently dying. While you're doing this, you should also be focusing on keeping the Edelweiss safe. It's hard to get down exactly, but I think you want to be parallel to the Batomys, with your rear around at the middle of the Batomys. Whenever you end up moving the Edelweiss, take the chance to shoot down one of the ruin walls.
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I remember doing that mission in such a roundabout, crazy way. If you place a sniper and an engineer near the big tank at the start and run them right across its front, you stand a decent chance of allowing your sniper to climb one of the ladders in the side, snipe off half of the upper ledges' soldiers, get restocked by the engineer, and snipe off the other half. It can go a long way towards making the fight managable.
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It got pretty down to the wire but I finished the mission with maybe one or two turns before the Batomys would have driven over my base. The start is pretty easy; I just whittled the turrets down to nothing with a team of the Edelweiss, two lancers, and an engineer. The others (Alicia and a team of shocktroopers) ravaged the remaining units on the map in the meantime. You can actually set a trap with 2-3 shocktroopers next to eachother on the ramp near one of your starting trenches...all of the enemies will simply rush into these troopers out in the open and get gunned down without a sweat. Finally for the radiators, instead of taking them out one at a time I elected to whittle down all three so one hit would take them out. When I was down to one, I repositioned everyone to prepare for the reinforcements. Finally took out the second and third radiator (after the second, everyone at the main base quickly snuck behind Selvaria's men to ensure they wouldn't be a problem, then came retreated). Then it was just a matter of whether I could blast the bastard before he got to my base... Whew.
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That's pretty much the hardest mission in the game, the game remains challenging but nothing of that level. Also, the radiators go out in one hit if you use a grenade.
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I didn't want to have too many units on the west side of the map (actually keeping the two lancers and one engineer alive was difficult enough as it were), so I elected to not utilize scouts/grenades. I mean I would've had lancers in the area already for the turrets, and if they'll go down in one hit it's all the same anyway. Actually I artificially made it more difficult than I had to I think because there were at least 2 or 3 rounds where the Batomys wouldn't move forward because the Edelweiss was too close or something (and instead just blasted it with its rear canon). Had I moved my tank around better I probably could have saved myself a little bit of trouble and gotten it to put out its stupid radiators quicker.
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So I've never played an SRPG for longer than about 1-2 hours max (FF Tactics). Reading everything here and in a few other threads has piqued my interest. I'm wondering where I should start. I own FF Tactics on the psx, but I've heard the PSP version is the one to get, should I repurchase it to play as a handheld or stick with the psx version? And is FF Tactics the game to start with or will it not matter too much where I start? Disgaea and Soul Nomad sound very interesting to me as well. If this was already asked somewhere, sorry about that. Thanks!
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I'd start with FFT, if you play a newer one first and then go back you might find the game mechanics a bit outdated/aged perhaps. Or maybe it got revamped a bit in the PSP remake, idk I haven't played it
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War of the Lions is better because the translation actually does the excellent story justice. Disgaea and Soul Nomad are radically different games as are most of NIS' strategy games. They play similar but each have their own mechanics. It doesn't really matter where you start because most of the strategy games are based on timeless formula.
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vencha posted:So I've never played an SRPG for longer than about 1-2 hours max (FF Tactics). Reading everything here and in a few other threads has piqued my interest. I'm wondering where I should start. I own FF Tactics on the psx, but I've heard the PSP version is the one to get, should I repurchase it to play as a handheld or stick with the psx version? And is FF Tactics the game to start with or will it not matter too much where I start? Disgaea and Soul Nomad sound very interesting to me as well. I was in the same boat as you, always trying to get into srpg's but just never being able too. FFT is what eventually got me into the genre (however I've only played that game) and I think I might pick up diseaga 4, too try some more.
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vencha posted:So I've never played an SRPG for longer than about 1-2 hours max (FF Tactics). Reading everything here and in a few other threads has piqued my interest. I'm wondering where I should start. I own FF Tactics on the psx, but I've heard the PSP version is the one to get, should I repurchase it to play as a handheld or stick with the psx version? And is FF Tactics the game to start with or will it not matter too much where I start? Disgaea and Soul Nomad sound very interesting to me as well. FFT is a very good starting point for SRPGs I'd say. It's actually rather simple compared to the mindboggling complexity of some other SRPGs, and it doesn't hurt that the game is classic Square at their best. Since you seem to have a PSP I would also recommend Jeanne d'Arc or Tactics Ogre. Tactics Ogre is a classic old game that's a bit more complex than FFT but not a lot harder. Unlike TO and FFT, Jeanne d'Arc is a modern game designed with modern sensibilities which may make it easier to enjoy for a first time SRPG player. Disgaea is most definitely not a good starting point, I haven't played Soul Nomad but its also by Nippon Ichi so I'd probably skip it. Nippon Ichi games like Disgaea are basically for people with Asperger's and have lovely anime plots and really obsessive gameplay. It's good for some people but not as your first SRPG. Lets Fuck Bro fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 15, 2011 |
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al-azad posted:War of the Lions is better because the translation actually does the excellent story justice. Disgaea and Soul Nomad are radically different games as are most of NIS' strategy games. They play similar but each have their own mechanics. It doesn't really matter where you start because most of the strategy games are based on timeless formula. How is Soul Nomad, anyway?
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If you find the game overwhelming or just too convoluted I'd recommend FF Tactics Advance. Mechanically simpler, with less on screen characters, but containing all the fundamentals of sRPGs. It isn't too hard and breakable in a number of ways but its dangerously addicting (since you're rewarded for additional grinding). The story's also, surprisingly, subtly poignant. Absolutely worth a look whether or not you deicide to continue with FFT. You'll need a GBA or a backwards compatible DS (i.e., phat or lite).
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Cool. I guess I'm going to order War of the Lions and see where that takes me. Jeanne d'Arc and Tactics Ogre look pretty neat too. Last time I played Tactics I was 12 I think and expected it to be like the other Final Fantasy games I'd played so I never gave it much of a chance. Hopefully it catches my attention this time, it seems like there are lots of cool games in the genre if I can get into them.
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When I first played FFT, I loved the art, the story, and the numbers-go-up aspects of it. For some reason I really like the job system at the beginning of the game more than at the end, perhaps because it's more simple and you're not dealing with a bunch of extra story characters in your party.
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Tae posted:How is Soul Nomad, anyway? The game is pretty funny and it has some potential, but I had lots of issues getting the room setups I wanted and ended up never finishing it. Like Disgaea, Soul Nomad has an Item World style system where you can level up your rooms. I just don't like that type of gameplay, but I know others do.
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Lets gently caress Bro posted:Disgaea is most definitely not a good starting point, I haven't played Soul Nomad but its also by Nippon Ichi so I'd probably skip it. Nippon Ichi games like Disgaea are basically for people with Asperger's and have lovely anime plots and really obsessive gameplay. It's good for some people but not as your first SRPG. Yeah, after I put a few hours into it I started thinking that way. Why would I want to level up a item I'd only use once? That part definitely was not for me. I might give it all another go though, just not do the ridiculous side things.
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vencha posted:So I've never played an SRPG for longer than about 1-2 hours max (FF Tactics). Reading everything here and in a few other threads has piqued my interest. I'm wondering where I should start. I own FF Tactics on the psx, but I've heard the PSP version is the one to get, should I repurchase it to play as a handheld or stick with the psx version? And is FF Tactics the game to start with or will it not matter too much where I start? Disgaea and Soul Nomad sound very interesting to me as well. The original FFT is how I got into SRPGs, and it is an absolutely fantastic game, but if you do use that as your starting point, note that there are areas in the game where you can permanently screw yourself over and have to start a new game to proceed if you don't keep a number of save files at one time. Mainly, any multi-part story mission that lets you save in between can gently caress you over big time if you do so. After that, Tactics Ogre is a great game, as well, and, for the most part, is similar to FFT but with significantly more content. As for Disgaea and Soul Nomad, both are worth picking up, but not until you've spent a decent amount of time with the genre. NIS games have, with very little exception, an absurd amount of optional content and complexity, and the main story serves more to wean you into the rest of the game's content, rather than being the main content itself. Also, expect to grind a lot in any game developed by NIS. Some of the content in Disgaea requires characters whose levels are in the thousands, and a big part of the game is about abusing the mechanics to break the game in increasingly ridiculous ways to level up at an absurd rate. Miijhal fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Sep 16, 2011 |
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I'm torn when recommending a version of FFT, because while the PSP version has lots of new content and a way better translation, slow-down aside the problem I have with it is that it's just a whole lot grindier. In the PSX version I found that I unlocked classes at a more natural pace, whereas in War of the Lions I really had to grind in classes I wasn't going to use just to get my characters on the right path. If possible, I'd throw the PSX disc in your computer, make an ISO, patch it with that patch that puts the new translation into the old version, and play PSX Final Fantasy Tactics, which is more or less the easy-type version of the game, only now you have a better translation. Edit: And I'm told that the PSP version of Tactics Ogre is the definitive one and actually better than FFT. I wish I could tell you for myself, though.
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FFT on PSX all the way. You can break that game so hard (you can break Disgaea also and that's kind of the point of that game) that I was able to do a Ramza only solo run after a few normal playthroughs. Fun game and great intro to the genre.
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Tae posted:How is Soul Nomad, anyway? I'd say it's one of the better games NIS has created. The room system is rather weird but it works well once you get used to it, and it has a decent story with some fantastic characters. Especially on the Demon path.
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Ni no Kuni confirmed for America! Here's hoping that we'll be getting more console JRPGs next year.
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3D Budgie posted:Ni no Kuni confirmed for America! :bearcat: I don't care jRPG or otherwise, just give me more stylish games like this. Literally have been waiting for more stuff like this since Dragon Quest VIII/Wind Waker. Okami was solid. What else was there? Whatever, it hasn't been nearly enough. gently caress this photorealism. I want my art to imitate art!
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3D Budgie posted:Ni no Kuni confirmed for America! But does it come with the book?
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vencha posted:So I've never played an SRPG for longer than about 1-2 hours max (FF Tactics). Reading everything here and in a few other threads has piqued my interest. I'm wondering where I should start. I own FF Tactics on the psx, but I've heard the PSP version is the one to get, should I repurchase it to play as a handheld or stick with the psx version? And is FF Tactics the game to start with or will it not matter too much where I start? Disgaea and Soul Nomad sound very interesting to me as well. The new Vandal Hearts game is an excellent introduction to SRPGs. It's easy and accessible.
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Douche Bag posted:The new Vandal Hearts game is an excellent introduction to SRPGs. It's easy and accessible. It's also a sack of poo poo that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemies.
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3D Budgie posted:Ni no Kuni confirmed for America! YES YES YES Hey look yet another JRPG Nintendo didn't want us in the States to play.  Too bad Xenoblade's developer is owned by Nintendo or maybe that could've been ported too.
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Amppelix posted:But does it come with the book? The PS3 version doesn't require it like the DS version. It's kind of dissapointing because I would pay a premium for a "Magic Master" edition but you literally can't get past the first 30 minutes of the DS game without the book. Lose the book? Please send proof of purchase and $40 to Level-5 corporate and wait 6-8 weeks. But this is drat good news, I love me some JRPGs.
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FZeroRacer posted:I'd say it's one of the better games NIS has created. The room system is rather weird but it works well once you get used to it, and it has a decent story with some fantastic characters. Especially on the Demon path. It's an unusual beast because unlike any other NIS game it's worth playing mainly for the story, the gameplay itself is a bit lacking compared to the Disgaea series, though it has its fair share of customisation, but it makes up for it by having two distinct paths to play through, some genuinely brilliant (and brilliantly evil) moments in the story and it's pretty cool visually. I suppose it's the Nier of SRPGs
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The White Dragon posted:It's also a sack of poo poo that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemies. I liked it Although I've never played the original so I don't that that to compare it to.
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