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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:I'd also recommend you completely skip Oblivion and just play Nehrim. Nehrim gets you the good parts of Oblivion and fixes most of the bad parts. It's probably worth firing up Oblivion just to play through the Shivering Isles expansion. I got a real Planescape-y vibe from the environments, particularly in the Dementia half of New Sheoth and the rather unpleasant root system "dungeons". Anyway, if you liked Gothic 1+2 it's probably worth adding Risen to the pile. While it flags (badly) as it heads into the endgame, the first few chapters which comprise mostly of exploring the island are absolutely wonderful. It has that good old Gothic progression (read: brutal difficulty), too; you start out fleeing in terror from random wildlife and finish the game as an all-powerful force of nature. Definitely worth a shot, especially since you already know what you're getting into.
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DA II isn't on either list? I haven't played it and it seems the opinion is split on the game. I would be interested in getting it, now that it's less expansive. So what's the general opinion on the game? I liked it better when you could chose your race and your guy didn't talk but making the game more story driven doesn't bother me.
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You may want to give Arx Fatalis a shot. It has many things in common with Ultima Underworld. The source code was released earlier this year, as well, but I don't know if anything was done with that. Since you mentioned Avernum, Avadon - The Black Fortress came out not too long ago and is by the same developer.
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I hated DA2 and couldn't get through it. Awful characters, awful story and pacing, and otherwise OK gameplay ruined by the inexplicable design decision of waves of enemies in combat.
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Ulio posted:DA II isn't on either list? I haven't played it and it seems the opinion is split on the game. I would be interested in getting it, now that it's less expansive. So what's the general opinion on the game? I liked it better when you could chose your race and your guy didn't talk but making the game more story driven doesn't bother me. It's not very good, although to be fair goons dislike it more than would be usual because the developers lied a lot/seemed really unpleasant and SNAKES N CAKES made a 3 month thread ripping the piss out of it. Personally I did buy it, but took it back 2 days later. It just wasn't worth the time spent playing it.
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(DA2)TJO posted:It's not very good, although to be fair goons dislike it more than would be usual because the developers lied a lot/seemed really unpleasant and SNAKES N CAKES made a 3 month thread ripping the piss out of it. Yeah. I found it to be ... playable, I would even go as far as to say that when I got to the final chapter and the story really started moving I even highly enjoyed it, even if I'd been grumbling about the pacing throughout the earlier parts. The reusing of the same city locale without overland exploration, I actually like on a conceptual plane--but the reused dungeons, that's just stupid. What it isn't, is anywhere near as good as DAO, on several points. In total I do not regret playing it but it would come down to a treshold of how good something has to be to be worth your time.
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I don't know if anyone here plays these games but I've read a couple of reviews of Atelier Totori and they generally seem to say that Totori is like Rorona but better in just about every way. I had Rorona and liked it but didn't get too far because the schedule seemed a little too tight for all the tasks you had to complete and it just made it not as fun. Is this any better in Totori? Assuming any/all of that is fixed, am I going to miss out on a lot in Totori story-wise if I didn't finish Rorona?
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Some of the characters return in Totori, but I strongly doubt you'll miss much - though I'm still only two-thirds through Rorona at the moment, it isn't exactly a plot-packed game. Rorona can be very overwhelming at first, but you do actually get a lot of time to do things; if you're particularly thorough you can end the first year with some people maxed out on trust, and then you start getting an assistant and the ability to register new items in shops for mass purchase, both of which drastically help.
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poo poo, that's right, Totori is coming out soon. Well, whatever, Dark Souls comes first. I'll get it later.Stelas posted:Rorona can be very overwhelming at first, but you do actually get a lot of time to do things; if you're particularly thorough you can end the first year with some people maxed out on trust, and then you start getting an assistant and the ability to register new items in shops for mass purchase, both of which drastically help. Wait, you can max people out in the first year? My God, I don't think I got halfway on any single person by the end of my first year. Then again, I blew away a lot of time in Rorona dicking around in dungeons, so hey. I may love Gust's mainline franchise, but damned if I'm not terrible at them.
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Yeah, I maxed out Etsy, Cordelia and Iksel first year, mostly by being religious and checking Etsy every single day. She has a lot of front quests where you can just buy the items outright from a shop - you won't net much profit per quest, but you'll save a lot of time.
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Stelas posted:Some of the characters return in Totori, but I strongly doubt you'll miss much - though I'm still only two-thirds through Rorona at the moment, it isn't exactly a plot-packed game. Yeah, I know the story isn't too complicated, haha. I just wonder if the interactions with the characters will be really loaded with references to the first game (in-jokes, relationships I don't understand, etc.) that I won't catch. Oh well, I'm probably just going to jump into Totori anyway as it sounds like a better game overall.
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I went into Rorona expecting something simple and light-hearted but it was seriously once of the most stressful games I've ever played. My experience was similar to HondaCivet's; I really liked the game but I was constantly freaking out about one deadline or another. Maybe I was just bad at the game but I'm hoping Totori is a little more loose regarding time management.
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Troffen posted:I went into Rorona expecting something simple and light-hearted but it was seriously once of the most stressful games I've ever played. My experience was similar to HondaCivet's; I really liked the game but I was constantly freaking out about one deadline or another. Maybe I was just bad at the game but I'm hoping Totori is a little more loose regarding time management. If I'm reading the reviews correctly it sounds like the game basically has no deadlines, or they're incredibly long, so you can kind of just do stuff in any order and however you'd like to do it. One reviewer complained that this made it hard to know what to do next sometimes, but overall it sounds like a huge improvement to me. And yeah, I didn't really understand how everyone called Rorona relaxing. 
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Rorona may be a stressful game, but compared to Annie, the game sets a leisurely pace. I don't dislike the game, but holy poo poo, all the stuff you had to go through to properly build revenue was just mind-boggling. Managing properties, doing property-specific quests, doing normal adventurer's guild quests, party member quests, Assignments, managing and upgrading the store, gathering ite- Also, the whole colored armor/weapons thing can go straight to the depths of hell. That was so loving annoying.
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The reviews for Totori are trickling in and they've mostly been pretty glowing. If I wasn't on my phone I'd link to a few. Pretty pumped for this animu simulator. Has anyone ever made an Atelier thread or would it be a waste of time? Not sure how many goons play the series and I am new to it myself.
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HondaCivet posted:The reviews for Totori are trickling in and they've mostly been pretty glowing. If I wasn't on my phone I'd link to a few. Pretty pumped for this animu simulator. I just read the GamrReview review (god that's an awful name) and it really does sound pretty nice. I might just have to pick it up along with ICO/SotC Collection 
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HondaCivet posted:
I've been playing Atelier since Atelier Iris on the Ps2 (Although I bought, but still haven't played Atelier Iris 3) so I'm not exactly new to it all. But I don't see myself investing the same way I did making the Xenoblade OP. Is there much demand for one anyway? I think probably only a handful of people here play em.
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The Black Stones posted:I've been playing Atelier since Atelier Iris on the Ps2 (Although I bought, but still haven't played Atelier Iris 3) so I'm not exactly new to it all. But I don't see myself investing the same way I did making the Xenoblade OP. It's hard to say but I'm kind of surprised at how many people responded to my post so there are more than I thought at least, haha. A thread would attract new players too. The game might be too anime for goons to handle though. I wad kinda hoping Amazon was going to ship it a day early like they sometimes do with preorders but nothing so far. :/
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I just recently started a game of Breath of Fire 3, and I'm wondering, about when do I hit the time skip and become an adult? I've just picked up Momo and I'm in the Dump cave.
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Heath posted:I just recently started a game of Breath of Fire 3, and I'm wondering, about when do I hit the time skip and become an adult? I've just picked up Momo and I'm in the Dump cave. A while yet; you'll need to go all the way east before it happens.
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About what percentage of the overall game is it? I think I'm about 9-10 hours in.
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Heath posted:About what percentage of the overall game is it? I think I'm about 9-10 hours in. I'd say you're halfway to the time skip, depending on how much you need to grind for a couple of upcoming roadblocks. The time skip itself is somewhere between the one-third and halfway point of the game, again depending on how much time you spend frigging around with masters and such.
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OK, so I'm taking the plunge and buying a big memory stick for my PSP and planning to catch up on all the PSone RPGs I've missed out on. So far I've picked up: Suikoden Parasite Eve Alundra Legend of Mana Front Mission 3 Grandia Xenogears And from the JP store, I'll be getting: King's Field 1/2/3 Shadow Tower Saga Frontier 1/2 Brigandine Langrisser IV/V Final Any other essentials? I've played FF7/8/9/Tactics already. I'm a big fan of solid ARPGs and SRPGs, and I've got a certain affinity for first-person dungeon-crawlers. Any suggestions, particularly on the first-person dungeon tip, are very welcome!
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On the subject of alchemy based RPGs, anyone know anything about Noora's Chamber of Time? It looks pretty nice and the music is really good, but I haven't managed to find much info about it at all. Doesn't seem to have gotten announced for an English release yet either. Also don't think I saw it mentioned, but Grand Knight's History is confirmed to be heading to US.
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Fermata Forever posted:Here's a list of the computer RPGs I've played and ones I'm thinking about (though I probably won't get the ones near the bottom of the list). Anything else that I should add to the list? While they're already on your list I cannot recommend New Vegas enough. I didn't really dig 3 too much but I have sunk unending hours into F:NV with no regret. And if you dig a more arcade-y/action-y game Divinity 2 isn't bad at all while still retaining some fun RPG styling.
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thorsilver posted:OK, so I'm taking the plunge and buying a big memory stick for my PSP and planning to catch up on all the PSone RPGs I've missed out on. Why is Vagrant Story missing from this list 
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Krad posted:Why is Vagrant Story missing from this list OK OK! Consider it done What else you got? I got me some sweet, sweet PSN credit to burn over here.
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thorsilver posted:OK OK! Consider it done Disclaimer: I don't have a PSP/PS3, so I have no idea if all these games are available on PSN. Breath of Fire 3 Breath of Fire 4 Wild ARMs Wild ARMs 2 Lunar: SSSC Lunar: EBC If you only pick one, pick BoF 3. It's one of my favorite RPGs on any system (desert notwithstanding).
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Krad posted:Why is Vagrant Story missing from this list I wish I could get into VS. Every once in a while I pick it up again, only to set it back down a few hours later. I can't get over the combat/weapon upgrade system. Just feels really tedious and I suck at the timed combos.
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Arc the Lad is still on PSN, right? Get AtL I/II and then carry your party from backwater hoodlums to gods of death saving the planet.
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Captain Vittles posted:Disclaimer: I don't have a PSP/PS3, so I have no idea if all these games are available on PSN. Listen to the Captain here, he speaks true. BoF3 is one of the best JRPGs of that generation. Just get an FAQ or something when you get to the desert of death though. That area was really tedious and poorly thought out.
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thorsilver posted:OK OK! Consider it done If you like action RPGs there is Threads of Fate, though I still wish they would release Musashi already.
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Arc the Lad is still on PSN, right? Get AtL I/II and then carry your party from backwater hoodlums to gods of death saving the planet. Holy poo poo, it is? I need to get some US PSN points post-haste. And your LP is entirely to blame; I've been wanting to dig out my US PS2 since it went up.
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Yeah, I assume they're still there, I don't know Sony's policy on removing titles. I just know I bought both day-one because there was some kerfluffle about "if we don't get X sales of these I can't get the next game up" at the time from Victor Ireland. I don't know if they ever got past II/Arena though. I should check later.
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I'm not too fussed on 3. The only redeeming point about it is it's a fluff way to pass the time, but it's kind of lacking challenge or plot or much in the way of fun.
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I feel that BoF4 is pretty much just superior to 3 in every way. Especially in characters, plot, and combat mechanics, which are all REALLY good in BoF4. Only serious problem with BoF4 I have is that section of game around the 3/4 mark where nothing really happens for about 5 hours. Edit: Which is not to say BoF3 is bad or anything, if you like the series you should definitely get it as well. Gwyrgyn Blood fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Sep 27, 2011 |
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Captain Vittles posted:Disclaimer: I don't have a PSP/PS3, so I have no idea if all these games are available on PSN. BoF 3 came out on PSP re-release here in the UK Have a copy on UMD already but have yet to crack it open. BoF 4 is available as a PSone Classic too.Lunar Silver Star Harmony (I think that's the title) was released on PSP also, and is available for download... thanks for the reminder! Spuzzz posted:If you like action RPGs there is Threads of Fate, though I still wish they would release Musashi already. Threads of Fate, I did spot that one. What's it play like? Syrg Sapphire posted:Arc the Lad is still on PSN, right? Get AtL I/II and then carry your party from backwater hoodlums to gods of death saving the planet. Yep, all 3 of them are still up! Is 3 terrible, why didn't you include that one?
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thorsilver posted:Is 3 terrible, why didn't you include that one? It's not terrible so much as it's so inoffensively bland that there's basically no substance to it. Someone decided that AtL2 had too much plot in it and was too hard, so they shortened the non-random-missions part of the game to maybe two hours long, put in more grinding, then removed any challenge from the battles.
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thorsilver posted:BoF 3 came out on PSP re-release here in the UK 3 is bland and very easy. Not a whole lot happens and by the time it does you don't really know what any of it had to do with anything. Not exactly bad, just not good. The ps2 games, on the other hand, are loving terrible.
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