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So I played DXHR and basically I can say that the only thing it has over this is Michael McCann, music and ambience was fan-loving-tastic. Yeah it did combat gameplay a lot better (that is, cover and standard deus ex drag/throw crates, bodies) but I did not find the places you go to all that memorable. The potential it depicts within the scenery just made me wish "yeah, tell me why I can't go over there?  ". If there's something that both games take up the mantle in unison, it's that pistols are complete beatsticks.  It's funny how our memories tend to gloss over the bad or detracting details of some nostalgic wossums but since I played AP 7 times I think I remember to think that this was a diamond in the rough not without it's own flaws. I think my dream espionage game would involve the reactivity in dialogue of AP combined with the third person combat of HR with grappling hook and RDX friendly levels. Delacroix fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Sep 24, 2011 |
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STEVE HECK always prefers suave responses. Bosom bros in sociopathy!
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Sep 24, 2011 12:15
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Just picked this up for $2 on Steam today, for that price, I'll give anything a shot.
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Sep 24, 2011 14:50
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I think Darcy is the one who appreciates suave the most. That's what "suave" is people.
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Sep 24, 2011 15:04
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Pharmaskittle posted:Just picked this up for $2. I look just like this now on my first assignment, minus the Tom Selleck 'stache. I haven't fully committed to doing the rear end in a top hat (suave) response to everything though, since I figured sucking up to at least a couple of people will afford me benefits later. One highlight though was on one of the "find the arms dealer" assignments. I told the guy I was from Canada, and he didn't buy it so I cold-cocked him and his buddy and slaughtered the other guards with my twin uzis. gently caress... yes.
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Sep 24, 2011 15:09
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Pharmaskittle posted:Just picked this up for $2. I just realized I first heard about Archer by reading AP threads. Another thing I owe the game. Obsidian 
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Sep 24, 2011 15:22
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Nucular Carmul posted:There's also a conversation that both Mina and Scarlet are involved in, if you actively flirt with Scarlet it will annoy Mina, and later in the same convo Mike tells Scarlet to distract a certain guard or something, and if you tell her to be sexy (as opposed to having her try to talk to him like an actual journalist) it will piss BOTH of them off Oh I definitely remember that scene from my all-suave playthrough, it was great. I just don't otherwise recall Mina reacting poorly to suave except for the occasional "yeah okay Mike  ." But she consistently liked me through the game so that might have been why.
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Sep 24, 2011 17:54
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I like that new people are buying this game and they are playing it in the true spirit of AP, which is to try and play as Archer.
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Sep 24, 2011 18:17
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Regarding differences in a Veteran playthrough, can you get both the data and save Albatross at the mansion? I remember I chose the data on my recruit playthrough and wasn't given an option to save Albatross after it and vice-versa on my normal playthrough.
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Sep 24, 2011 22:21
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Mike_V posted:Regarding differences in a Veteran playthrough, can you get both the data and save Albatross at the mansion? I remember I chose the data on my recruit playthrough and wasn't given an option to save Albatross after it and vice-versa on my normal playthrough. Yes. Having enough Technical Aptitude (I think it's 8 ranks?) will also work.
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Sep 24, 2011 22:24
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thepopstalinist posted:STEVE HECK always prefers suave responses. Bosom bros in sociopathy! Steven.  Vlad Antlerkov posted:Yes. Having enough Technical Aptitude (I think it's 8 ranks?) will also work. The funny thing about that is Technical Aptitude actually gives a reasonable way to save both the data and Albatross (rerouting security, etc). Veteran is just like "Yeah, I'll save both of them" and pulls it off, because that's how great Veteran Mike is.
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Sep 24, 2011 22:49
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Solomonic posted:Steven. This is the best thing.
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Sep 25, 2011 00:01
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Is Awareness (Basic) bugged, the one at stealth level 2? When I upgrade to it, my awareness skill just stops working. I press the button, the little icon pops up for a second, then vanishes, doesn't trigger the cooldown or anything. I thought maybe it was just the mission so I waited and tried upgrading it on the next mission, no dice.
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Sep 25, 2011 02:36
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AceSnyp3r posted:Is Awareness (Basic) bugged, the one at stealth level 2? When I upgrade to it, my awareness skill just stops working. I press the button, the little icon pops up for a second, then vanishes, doesn't trigger the cooldown or anything. I thought maybe it was just the mission so I waited and tried upgrading it on the next mission, no dice. Pretty sure that's a bug, since it happened to me too. I believe that it sorts itself when you stick another AP into stealth to get to level 3.
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So hey I'm playing as a Recruit for my first run-through before my Sterling Archer Veteran game, and the number of Recruit dialogue options appears to have dropped off really sharply after leaving the Grey Box. I mean I only just finished Saudi Arabia so it's not like I'm far in, I was just wondering whether they come back in force or not (I hope they do)
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Sep 25, 2011 05:14
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quote:- Recruit is not a difficulty setting! Playing as a Recruit means you start with less AP, and everyone in Alpha Protocol thinks you're kind of a chump. Don't play Recruit on your first time (And for god's sake, don't play Recruit on Hard difficulty). Why? I'm doing this, and it's not especially difficult. This sounds like a good thing, because many modern RPGs let you specialize in everything, taking away the fun (ie Mass Effect, Deus Ex HR)
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Sep 25, 2011 05:25
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I did recruit my first time through. Just make sure to play on easy, playing on the higher difficulties is dumb as heck.
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Sep 25, 2011 05:49
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Kitfox88 posted:I did recruit my first time through. Just make sure to play on easy, playing on the higher difficulties is dumb as heck. I'm doing a recruit run on the hardest difficulty, I'm putting all my points into stealth and pistols. I'm still in Saudia Arabia though.
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Sep 25, 2011 05:55
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Speaking of Recruit, is there a cheat/hack/save/whatever to unlock Veteran on the PC version? I already beat the game (several times) on my Xbox and unlocked it there, but I have since lost my copy and bought it again for PC during the steam sale. But I still want my sweet, sweet Veteran mode reward...
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Sep 25, 2011 06:37
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Doctor Fatty posted:Speaking of Recruit, is there a cheat/hack/save/whatever to unlock Veteran on the PC version? You could probably just download an endgame save as recruit. I'm not sure what you'd need to edit to enable veteran.
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Pharmaskittle posted:So hey I'm playing as a Recruit for my first run-through before my Sterling Archer Veteran game, and the number of Recruit dialogue options appears to have dropped off really sharply after leaving the Grey Box. I mean I only just finished Saudi Arabia so it's not like I'm far in, I was just wondering whether they come back in force or not (I hope they do)
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It's worth noting that even if you don't have specific options, some NPCs will still mention your backstory (Marburg and Leland, maybe others). I know Marburg will speculate that bringing in a greenhorn was some sort of strategic move by the gov't. Thorton will also correct him and state that he is a (whatever "specialization class" you chose after Saudi).
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Sep 25, 2011 07:28
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I've been playing deus ex:HR lately and this looks fun as hell. $2 on steam this weekend meant it was impossible to resist. Now to wait out the interminable download cycle so I can become Sterling Archer. Hell yeah!
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Sep 25, 2011 07:50
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Finished the game for the first time last night. The game was a blast with the exception of that final loving mission, argh. I managed to find Mina during the final mission but there was no sign of Scarlet, even though Leland mentioned that they had captured her. Did I miss something or did the game bug out? Speaking of bugs, I had trouble with Westridge and his drat turret, I think I died something like five times during that section. On my final attempt, he somehow teleported right outside the upstairs door and just stood there while I shot him in the head . Best 2 euros I've spent in a while.
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Sep 25, 2011 08:26
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Are there any chances for a sequel to this, or did the game really tank that bad?
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Eel hovercraft posted:Finished the game for the first time last night. The game was a blast with the exception of that final loving mission, argh. I managed to find Mina during the final mission but there was no sign of Scarlet, even though Leland mentioned that they had captured her. Did I miss something or did the game bug out? It didn't bug out - there are two really easy to miss doors in the final mission and at least you managed to find one! I've been saying this should be in the OP forever since tens of people have posted about the same problem. libersyber posted:Are there any chances for a sequel to this, or did the game really tank that bad? It tanked pretty terribly and the brand is probably poisonous due to the bullshit terrible reviews it got, but I don't think a spiritual sequel is too much to hope for.
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Sep 25, 2011 08:55
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Role Play McMurphy posted:It didn't bug out - there are two really easy to miss doors in the final mission and at least you managed to find one! I've been saying this should be in the OP forever since tens of people have posted about the same problem. Welp, time to start a new playthrough, I guess .
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Eel hovercraft posted:Welp, time to start a new playthrough, I guess You should have an auto-save from the safehouse, you could try just the last mission again. A chance to meet up with Scarlet as well as try out some other options. Granted, the final mission isn't the best, and you might as well get started on the inevitable second playthrough, but still.
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Role Play McMurphy posted:It didn't bug out - there are two really easy to miss doors in the final mission and at least you managed to find one! I've been saying this should be in the OP forever since tens of people have posted about the same problem. Yeah, I got caught by this. There are a few doors in the final mission that immediately shut right after you pass through them, with no warning and no way to go back. That especially bothered me because I like to take my time to explore an entire mission map, and this prevented me from doing so--not to mention missing a major optional objective.
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Role Play McMurphy posted:It didn't bug out - there are two really easy to miss doors in the final mission and at least you managed to find one! I've been saying this should be in the OP forever since tens of people have posted about the same problem. Well, it sold ok, but Sega didn't think it sold enough to want to start talking about putting money up for another game in the series. And yeah, the review shitstorm probably didn't help.
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It doesn't matter was Sega thinks, though. They don't own the IP. If Obsidian want to do another game then it's just a matter of convincing another publisher to pony up money for the sequel to their less than stellar first game.
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Sep 25, 2011 11:00
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Not only did it sell ok, but most reviews weren't even that bad either. It has a metacritic rating of 72. Publishers (Sega) just don't want to put money behind anything that isn't 80+. Game development is too costly to risk money on niche titles, and I guess less than 80 is "niche" these days. 10 years ago, this game would have been considered a good success and a fairly likely candidate for a sequel.
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Okay, finally started playing this game. Despite going with level 2 Stealth and Pistol/Chain Shot, I completely blow on the orientation runs (save the Gadget/Grenade area) and the first Saudi mission (Nasri). It seems any attempt at stealth fucks up, I have to go through at the four big open area setpieces with the guards on heightened alert, including one where I managed to stealth all the way through, only to have a guard appear once my Awareness expired and alert everyone to my presence. For the first mission, it seems that the only good weapon are my fists, as I have to mag dump my pistol into someone to potentially kill them and the SMG can't hit the broadside of a barn. I just run screaming into the guys and beat the poo poo out of them. Also, the deactivate alarm and computer hacking minigames frustrate the hell out of me. Second mission, the detention camp, was a lot easier because I used the rifle, getting crit shots on everything in the big open area. I got the Limited Bloodshed perk, which added 10 to my Endurance. I managed to figure out how to work Chain Shot and, man, does that make things poo poo loads easier (my best one was killing two guards at once with it) and I desperately either want to find something that will decrease the cooldown or increase the number of shots chained. Also, I used Radio Mimic to shut down alarms. Is there a way to continue to improve my experience with this game, like certain equipment to find? I'm wondering if the map purchases are worth it, since, on the Nasri mission, the map was loving useless and got me into more trouble than I wanted to. Also, is there way to buy addition customization options. I really want black Razors shades instead of those bright orange ones.
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For the pistols, wait for the Critical Hit to line up, always. Nasri, can't help you there, but I don't remember enemies popping in suddenly at the end of an era. Personally, I always fire Awareness up for one 'wasted' shot at the beginning of each to be sure of how many enemies are in the vicinity. thepopstalinist posted:STEVE HECK always prefers suave responses. Bosom bros in sociopathy! X_Toad fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Sep 25, 2011 |
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Hannibal Smith posted:I'm pretty sure there aren't any recruit options after you leave the Grey Box. There are some Veteran ones throughout the game, but they're still fairly rare. That's good though because otherwise you'd be railroaded into taking those ones (unless you wanted to play recruit again) which goes against what's so good about the game.
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I dunno, I really woulda liked to have seen more recognition of your special-game status. Grigori, I think, would have been great for recruit/veteran stuff. Like, I can imagine on Veteran: "Hey Grigori." "Ah, Mr. Thorton. We meet again." "Yeah, I know that whole Stalingrad thing wasn't the best time, but..." "Think nothing of it. The warlord's cache was enough to recoup my losses. Let us call it, what do you say, a wash." So, you know, still basically starting the conversation in a fresh, neutral state such that paling around and bottle-smashing are both equally sensible outcomes, but still referencing the "I've saved the world once already, we've met, let's get on with it" nature of the Veteran run.
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I've begun my veteran play through specialising in shotguns and martial arts and giving as many Aggressive answers as possible. rear end in a top hat Thornton is awesome and charging through the levels doing the flying kick thing then blowing away bad guys is the best thing after sneaking around taking my time being careful and precise. What's this about being able to do everything in the mansion? Is it just an option when you get there?
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Got this during the steam sale and it worked fine at first, but then I upgraded my computer, replaced the mobo and processor, and now it refuses to start. I've tried a bunch of fixes suggested online but nothing seems to work.
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NoneSuch posted:Got this during the steam sale and it worked fine at first, but then I upgraded my computer, replaced the mobo and processor, and now it refuses to start. I've tried a bunch of fixes suggested online but nothing seems to work. Did you actually wipe your hard drive after you upgraded the mobo and processor?
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vulgey posted:Did you actually wipe your hard drive after you upgraded the mobo and processor? Yea I did. I'm going to try and reinstall the game and apply all the possible fixes, with any luck it'll work this time. I might of missed something when I uninstalled it earlier when it wasn't working.
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