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I wish I got one of those emails. I'm not up for renewal until January and I'm itching to get the Prime if/when it's released.
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So after trying a few different things to get my data connection working again, Verizon offered to send me a brand new Thunderbolt as a replacement. Whether it comes brand new or as a factory refurb we'll see. Wanted to know a few things: 1. Am I allowed to just sell the brand new one and use the money to buy a Bionic off contract? 2. Will I get into trouble with Verizon if I do so? Would they even give a poo poo? They told me that I would get the unit and would go and activate it to make sure it worked right and I would use that from here on out, so I assume it's a permanent thing, rather than a loaner. They obviously have the ability to look at my phone and see what model I'm using, and I'd need to get the Bionic activated with my SIM anyway, so do you think they will pitch a fit if I do that?
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Just because the phone was a warranty replacement doesn't mean it doesn't belong to you; it's yours to sell. The replacement is provided for under the warranty and even if you sell your TB you're still "paying off" the subsidy for it on your monthly bill for the rest of your contract, so it's not like Verizon's getting screwed.
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I really like the size of the iphone4; however, I really want a phone with the android marketplace. Are there any good android phones that have a size similar to that of the iphone? Edit: Or are there any phones coming out soon that would suit what I'm looking for? ROOMBA floorvac fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Oct 1, 2011 |
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Oct 1, 2011 13:47
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Droid Incredible, Droid Incredible 2. The DroidInc1 is available super cheap secondhand and runs the poo poo out of CyanogenMod, so I like it
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Oct 1, 2011 15:46
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For what it's worth, my mom has a Droid Incredible 2 and gets 2-3 days battery life out of it. I have no idea how she does this, but hey, it owns.
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Seconding the Inc/Inc2 recommendation. The original stands up pretty nicely to some phones being released today, and it looks so similar to the iPhone that people frequently look at it and ask if I like my iPhone. And like this guy ^^^^, I know someone with the Inc2 who gets ridiculous battery life out of it. Neither phone is exactly a powerhouse, but they're both solid choices and should be pretty cheap.
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Oct 1, 2011 23:29
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I purchased the 3500 mah seidio extended battery for my thunderbolt. While it adds quite a bit of heft to the phone, its nice being able to run 4G and not be required to charge every 8 hours. I'm currently at 9 hours off charger and at 65%. This is with 4G being active the entire time and moderate use (display has been on for over an hour). After calibrating, I should be easily pushing 24 + hours with constant 4g and heavy use according to what i've read.
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Oct 1, 2011 23:31
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JayKay posted:I purchased the 3500 mah seidio extended battery for my thunderbolt. While it adds quite a bit of heft to the phone, its nice being able to run 4G and not be required to charge every 8 hours. Hopefully VoLTE's introduction and the dismissal of the CDMA/Ev-DO radio from new handsets will rectify things.
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If the Droid Charge is "comically gigantic" to you, thickness-wise, then what in the god-fearing hell do you want? It's only 14mm at its thickest. (going off Wiki's dimensions for it)
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JayKay posted:I purchased the 3500 mah seidio extended battery for my thunderbolt. While it adds quite a bit of heft to the phone, its nice being able to run 4G and not be required to charge every 8 hours. For what it's worth, my phone just died. I had over 3 hours of display on, Bluetooth running for the majority of it, and I was streaming the Phillies game today. Didn't quite get 24 hours of 4G but I'm still in the calibration/break in period. Overall I'm pretty happy
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Kyrosiris posted:If the Droid Charge is "comically gigantic" to you, thickness-wise, then what in the god-fearing hell do you want? It's only 14mm at its thickest. (going off Wiki's dimensions for it) I'm not saying I don't understand it; it's a necessary growing pain. It would just be nice to see the sizes on these things go back in the other direction.
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Maybe it's just part and parcel of my attachment to phones with keyboards, but any time I've handled a thinner phone (than my D2G), I felt like I was going to snap the drat thing like a twig. The 14mm thickness mark (Droid 2/Global, the Charge at its thickest, etc.) is pretty much perfect.
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Kyrosiris posted:Maybe it's just part and parcel of my attachment to phones with keyboards, but any time I've handled a thinner phone (than my D2G), I felt like I was going to snap the drat thing like a twig. The 14mm thickness mark (Droid 2/Global, the Charge at its thickest, etc.) is pretty much perfect. The thickness of a lot of 4G Android phones doesn't bother me that much really. I just don't care for how wide/long it is. I have had an LG Dare the past 3 years and I would like something relatively the same size. The Incredible 2 sounds like the phone I should get, but I just want to make sure there aren't any other phones coming out soon that I should wait for.
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porno for the deaf posted:Saw this a few weeks ago, which might have something to do with it: Chalk me up for another one that had an upgrade moved up. I moved to Verizon and bought a Droid X when they came out last July, and my account page says that I'm eligible for a subsidized upgrade now.
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Weird. Looks like my primary line (my phone) got bumped up, as well. I wasn't eligible until 5/30/12, but when I looked today, it says my line is eligible now. Took a look at the available phones, and everything shows 2-year pricing. If I hold out until May, though, I'll be able to use my final NE2 discount, even though it's not that much anymore.
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I have a question about the family plans that Verizon offers. Currently, my fiancee is on her Mom's family plan with her Droid1. I'd like to make the switch to Verizon from AT&T for the 4gs on the 14th - just how exactly do I do this, and can I do this since I'm not technically a family member yet? Can I just walk in the store with my fiancee, or do I need the person with me who is the main account holder?
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Oct 4, 2011 19:45
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WaffleStomp posted:I have a question about the family plans that Verizon offers. Currently, my fiancee is on her Mom's family plan with her Droid1. I'd like to make the switch to Verizon from AT&T for the 4gs on the 14th - just how exactly do I do this, and can I do this since I'm not technically a family member yet? You don't need to be an actual family member to get on a family plan. You will, however need the primary account holder available when you port your line into their plan.
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That's what I thought, thanks!
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I think that Android is poised to pick up alot of frustrated 3GS users who were expecting the 5 to drop today. Especially with the new powerhouses coming to nearly every carrier.
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I have 2 friends who were expecting bigger screens on the new iphone. They're both invested monetarily in ios but are now gonna switch to android on sprint for bigger screens, unlimited data and 4g. It was only a matter of time before apple fell behind their own hype and was forced to release an underwhelming product.
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tismondo posted:I have 2 friends who were expecting bigger screens on the new iphone. They're both invested monetarily in ios but are now gonna switch to android on sprint for bigger screens, unlimited data and 4g. It was only a matter of time before apple fell behind their own hype and was forced to release an underwhelming product. Yeah well people thought the same thing when they announced the 3Gs and than welp the iphone 4 happened so yeah. It's not like it's that big of a problem or something like that.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Yeah well people thought the same thing when they announced the 3Gs and than welp the iphone 4 happened so yeah. It's not like it's that big of a problem or something like that. He didn't say Apple was dying. At least the 3GS was a speed upgrade for a device that desperately needed it. The 4S doesn't offer all that much for iPhone 4 owners. The 4S is still a crappy release regardless of what the 5 will offer in the future. 3.5" screen in today's market is freaking ridiculous.
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Cozmosis posted:He didn't say Apple was dying. At least the 3GS was a speed upgrade for a device that desperately needed it. The 4S doesn't offer all that much for iPhone 4 owners. The 4S is still a crappy release regardless of what the 5 will offer in the future. I didn't say he said that. Also, I think it's quite clear that the verizon iPhone release kinda hosed things up for apple. I wonder if they would have radically changed the design, or if this is just apples plan all along (maybe there gonna go forward with the "every 2 years change it up, year in between take a little break with a relatively minor bump"). E: Psyker posted:It would be ironic if 3GS users didn't expect a 4S. This is pretty much what I meant. It's remarkable how much foresite apple had with the scheme there running now. Cozmosis posted:3.5" screen in today's market is freaking ridiculous. Are you willing to eat those words when the 4s sells a shitload of units like iPhone's always do? bull3964 posted:The iPhone 4s is a classic example as to why Apple's tight design guidelines can be a straight jacket to innovation. Again, what exactly is the problem with this if they continue to sell a shitload of them? If they sell a lot, it shows that people still want the product despite what you seem to think are problems and that they are succeeding in what they're trying to do. chocolateTHUNDER fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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Bobx66 posted:I think that Android is poised to pick up alot of frustrated 3GS users who were expecting the 5 to drop today. Especially with the new powerhouses coming to nearly every carrier. It would be ironic if 3GS users didn't expect a 4S. As a 3GS user, i'll be getting my 4S. It's a gigantic leap for me, and my 3GS has been falling behind for a while now.
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Cozmosis posted:3.5" screen in today's market is freaking ridiculous. Why the gently caress do people keep spewing this bullshit? Screen size is preference, end of story. If you like a bigger screen and subsequently a bigger phone, you should go get one. There's a ton on the market right now. gently caress it, why don't you get a tablet phone hybrid because bigger is better right?
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The iPhone 4s is a classic example as to why Apple's tight design guidelines can be a straight jacket to innovation. a) Screen Size You can't change the screen size without maintaining or improving the DPI. That leads to... b) Screen Resolution There is a single option for the next iPhone as I see it, 1152x768. That maintains the same aspect ratio while increasing to pseudo HD levels. It would allow the display to increase in size while maintaining DPI. The proplem is, retina apps won't look as sharp and upscaling won't be a simple pixel doubling like older apps do now. There probably wasn't a 4" panel at that pixel density that was up to snuff this round to be used so size stayed the same. c) LTE Simply not possible to have this right now and keep Apple's physical design aesthetic and the level of battery life they want and it won't be included until that happens. Honestly, Apple releases have become as predictable as the sun right now. I called all the 4s specs as soon as the iPad2 and the Verizon iPhone came out. It's pretty simple to call 2012 as well. The iPad 3 will launch in Q2 with a retina display, quad core, and with an LTE option. iPhone 5 will launch in the fall with that same quad core, resolution similar to what I said above, and finally, LTE that was refined through the iPad release. To expect any more from Apple isn't likely because it would upset their whole house of cards. About the only deviation I can see is the iPhone 5 releasing a bit earlier.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:E: Can you please not quote posts below yours. It makes the thread confusing as gently caress to read, and the people you're quoting don't have any indication someone responded to them.
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Well here's what I predict for the future of android devices: More plasticy, rushed, imprecise, sluggish devices by the boatload. A bunch of stupid worthless features that only drain battery on an operating system and a user interface so bad and flawed that people have to root their loving phones in order for it to work correctly and not die after 3-4 hours. More security flaws and more spyware on the market. Quad core processors and increased ram implemented simply to brute force a poorly programmed OS. More updates coming to fix one thing and open a backdoor simultaneously. Let's see how right I am.
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You need to recognize the distinction between Nexus devices and "literally any other random poo poo that Google unwisely allows its hardware partners to poo poo into the marketplace." The vast majority of your complaints stem from carriers and hardware partners failing to do the operating system justice. Since Verizon still doesn't have a Nexus device and it's unlikely that too many folks in this thread spent time with a GSM Nexus One -- a beautiful device for its time that easily trumped its iPhone competitor, was slim and made of metal, and ran fast as hell -- it only seems fair to hold back some of the venom until we have a Nexus device on Verizon. Alternately, try a DroidInc1 running CyanogenMod. It's basically a Nexus One with a rubbery construction after you replace its horrible stock software. Unfortunately it's pretty dated now, but it was probably Verizon's most impressive phone relative to its release date. It's really unfortunate that unemployed nerds developing software out of their parents' basements have to do the work fixing these products while lovely bottom feeders like HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile all get rich by figuratively defecating all over the industry.
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Gaza posted:Well here's what I predict for the future of android devices: More plasticy, rushed, imprecise, sluggish devices by the boatload. A bunch of stupid worthless features that only drain battery on an operating system and a user interface so bad and flawed that people have to root their loving phones in order for it to work correctly and not die after 3-4 hours. More security flaws and more spyware on the market. Quad core processors and increased ram implemented simply to brute force a poorly programmed OS. More updates coming to fix one thing and open a backdoor simultaneously. Let's see how right I am. I'm really not sure what you found so inflammatory that you needed to lash out like this. You like the iPhone. That's fine. But you can't deny that Apple is not in the driver's seat anymore when it comes to hardware innovation. They excel at making a very nice hardware/software package that works well as a whole, but that comes at the expense of agility. Their ecosystem requires iterative, predictable updates to ensure that it remains stable and easy to use. Case in point. Apple simply can't make an LTE iPhone right now. They would have to compromise too much on design and that would betray their core principles for the device. Once that changes, either through their own R&D or outside efforts like Qualcomm releasing the 2nd generation chipsets, then they will be on board. However, that means that they don't have cutting edge radio technology on Verizon right now. If Verizon had to rely solely on the iPhone for their smartphone sales, they would be in serious trouble. EVDO can't compete with even 14.4 HSDPA+. Coverage is nice, but that only gets you so far when you are rocking under 2Mbps in city centers while AT&T could potentially be 7 times that. NFC is another example. Apple most likely isn't including the technology in their phones until they have an end to end solution for mobile payments that's native to iOS. However, the likes of Mastercard, American Express, and all the major carriers don't want to wait and are moving forward. All of these things make it pretty easy to see what direction Apple is going to go with their current devices as far as hardware specs go. Fortunately for Apple, that's only half the package and they are really doing a lot of good work with their software for their devices that make them a very cohesive product. There's nothing wrong with desiring that for a device just the same as there's nothing wrong with wanting faster network speeds, a larger display, or an HD display. On a personal level, you couldn't force me to go back to an EVDO device. The difference in usability of data is that pronounced on Verizon. On AT&T, it's not as big of a deal.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Again, what exactly is the problem with this if they continue to sell a shitload of them? If they sell a lot, it shows that people still want the product despite what you seem to think are problems and that they are succeeding in what they're trying to do. I don't think that's what it shows at all, actually, but hey.
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It's not a problem as long a some other entity exists that's not as risk adverse that brings new innovations to the market. I'm not sure why you think what I wrote was some sort of judgement on the product rather than a simple observation. The release today couldn't have been anything BUT what Apple released, the evidence has been on the wall for half a year now. It was basically a response to those who thought something different was going to be announced today. Anything a supposed iPhone5 would have needed to incorporate to make it better spec'd than the iPhone4s and still make it recognizable as a iPhone either doesn't exist or is too cost prohibitive to actually use. It's the same deal as all the retina rumors for the iPad 2. The technology didn't exist to make panels of the resolution required, at the cost required, in the quantity required. Logic trumped rumors. Apple's supply line is too large now to keep anything really revolutionary under wraps long before a release anymore.
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Couldn't find this in the OP or the last few pages, so... Does anyone know if you can keep a grandfathered unlimited data plan when moving from an Android to an Iphone? I want to upgrade my original Incredible (which after 18 months will blow through a battery in less than 3 hours of light use) to a 4s, but I'm not sure it's worth losing my unlimited data.
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Don Corleone posted:Couldn't find this in the OP or the last few pages, so... Yes. It's a smartphone data plan, not an Android/iPhone/Blackberry plan. Gaza posted:Why the gently caress do people keep spewing this bullshit? Screen size is preference, end of story. If you like a bigger screen and subsequently a bigger phone, you should go get one. There's a ton on the market right now. gently caress it, why don't you get a tablet phone hybrid because bigger is better right? Agreed, to a point. I think that screen size is fine and Apple wants you to buy an iPad to compliment your iPhone, so they're not inclined to bump up the size. That said, "there are other pones on the market" is a pretty poor excuse. It's poor logic that we've seen fail. Motorola had a giant hit with the RAZR, didn't innovate, and wound up losing ground to smartphones and other featurephones because they didn't adapt.
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My wife is switching back to Verizon for an iPhone. She's had insurance through Sprint before and had to use it because her Pre broke. We were looking at plans, and we didn't know if we need the Verizon insurance or AppleCare+. What are the differences? She's clumsy, but hasn't really broken anything yet (besides the Pre, which broke on its own). She works in a high-theft area.
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Rastor posted:She doesn't want to wait 1 week for the iPhone 4S? Sorry, I meant the 4S. She's been waiting to dump her piece of crap Pre all summer.
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Cozmosis posted:3.5" screen in today's market is freaking ridiculous. Agreed, I'm waiting for the new HTC Jupiter: 
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