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Wiz posted:Games journalism is completely in bed with the large game companies since they are dependent on the game companies for access and advertising. Game companies getting good reviews on a site leads to them putting more money into ads for that site and giving that site exclusive access on their next AAA title, and so the cycle feeds itself. Furthermore, due to money and time issues there's a lot of cribbing scores off each other, so you get a positive feedback loop for titles like DA2 and a negative one for titles like AP. That, and it seems like most modern reviews don't play a game for more than an hour before reviewing it. Its pretty obvious the people reviewing AP didn't get past Saudi Arabia, despite the promo pictures from other areas they've embedded into the articles.
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gohuskies posted:Intel on people - always buy I bought everything. 
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Oct 3, 2011 19:44
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Role Play McMurphy posted:Has there been a single publication that's written any sort of mea culpa about this game? Not in public, no, but ask any Obsidian dev about journalists who contacted them about AP six months after their initial review for some sad/hilarious raging.
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Oct 3, 2011 20:53
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Picked this up release day, full price on 360 and loved it. Played it twice and then saw it for £1.50 on Steam last weekend, which is insanely good value so I'm currently on my third playthrough and for this one it's Psychopath Mike Thorton specialising in SMGs, pistols and CQC. I'm having a blast!
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Oct 3, 2011 21:19
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Just beat the game! That chopper is an rear end in a top hat. And it's weird I never ran across Marburg again after all the posturing over round two and the taunting through the fights and Heck exploding half the facility. Never saw Scarlet again either. Shooting Leland in the head was remarkably brutal too. Slightly disappointed there was no wrap-up like with the Fallout games beyond a paragraph or two, but I see why they didn't. That is a LOT of variables. And I said it already, but I really like how the game never sits down and tells you what's going on. You either find out who people are and what they're doing, or you don't. I have no idea what Albatross and G22 was or wanted, but we got off on the wrong foot after I shot Sis (and at the end those assholes lied and said they were going to support me and didn't! That's so lovely of them!). RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Oct 3, 2011 |
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Oct 3, 2011 23:06
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RBA Starblade posted:Just beat the game! That chopper is an rear end in a top hat. And it's weird I never ran across Marburg again after all the posturing over round two and the taunting through the fights and Heck exploding half the facility. Never saw Scarlet again either. Shooting Leland in the head was remarkably brutal too. You must have missed the news report playing over the credits.
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Player 2 posted:I'm having a blast! This is the best thing 
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Hank Morgan posted:You must have missed the news report playing over the credits. gently caress! The game booted me back to the main menu after them. Maybe I can reload my checkpoint and look again.
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Oct 3, 2011 23:13
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RBA Starblade posted:I have no idea what Albatross and G22 was or wanted, but we got off on the wrong foot after I shot Sis (and at the end those assholes lied and said they were going to support me and didn't! That's so lovely of them!).
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Oct 3, 2011 23:16
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Dick Trauma posted:I bought everything. I buy everything except sniper rifles because they are rear end.
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Oct 3, 2011 23:23
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RBA Starblade posted:Slightly disappointed there was no wrap-up like with the Fallout games beyond a paragraph or two, but I see why they didn't. That is a LOT of variables. I like how basically doing everything that seems like Halbech has won instead changes because of new variables and Halbech ends up in a worst place because of it. Let the bombing in Rome go uninterrupted? Halbech has to deal with Madison bent on not letting the kind of policy Halbech wanted be created. Let Sung dies? The protection of chinese people in Taïwan by his police forces and the death of the one guy really bent on declaring independence leads to relations between the two country going back to the statu quo. It asks for a lot of cynicism on the player's part though.
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Oct 3, 2011 23:36
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So this seems to run counter to what I've been reading in this thread: ChrisAvellone: @NoBullet Obsidian doesn't have rights to AP, SEGA does, and a sequel is unlikely with any other publisher.  http://twitter.com/ChrisAvellone/statuses/120945556787970048
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Oct 3, 2011 23:56
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devoir posted:So this seems to run counter to what I've been reading in this thread: In all honesty, making a similar game but ditching the names and locales associated with the game wouldn't get them into all that hot water.
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evilmiera posted:In all honesty, making a similar game but ditching the names and locales associated with the game wouldn't get them into all that hot water. "The organisation was originally under a different name, but we'd have caught too much attention using it a second time."  vvv Oh my god Thorton clown suit mission. poptart_fairy fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Oct 4, 2011 |
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Oct 4, 2011 00:04
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It could be a bit like that Sean Connery Bond film Never Say Never Again where all the basic elements are there but everything is just a bit off and disconcerting.
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Oct 4, 2011 00:06
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Imagine a fallout game without the fallout license. Except not bad like whatever the name was of that german (I think) one. It'd essentially be like what Doom clones used to be like. Except actually made by id software and called Bloom. Or Tragedy, I guess. As for mods, again, I think I heard someone was doing something with the idea, but I've no idea how far they have or did progress.
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GetWellGamers posted:Not in public, no, but ask any Obsidian dev about journalists who contacted them about AP six months after their initial review for some sad/hilarious raging. I've been tweeting nonsense at rope kid for months now and no luck
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Oct 4, 2011 00:47
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Does anyone else think the graphics blow? The other RPGs I've been playing, Witcher 2 and Deus Ex HR look much better. This reminds me of Mass Effect 1 graphics.
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Hey, now. We've been using the term 'spiritual successor' for this exact concept for years.
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Dominoes posted:Does anyone else think the graphics blow? The other RPGs I've been playing, Witcher 2 and Deus Ex HR look much better. This reminds me of Mass Effect 1 graphics. I'm not sure if you are trolling or not...but the graphics are fine. No they arent Witcher 2 quality but they are more than adequate and the game mechanics more than make up for any perceived flaws in the graphics.
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Oct 4, 2011 01:15
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Yeah, not to be one of those guys, but I honestly really don't care about graphics. Graphics aren't fun. I had fun playing Alpha Protocol, and very little of that had to do with how it looked.
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Oct 4, 2011 01:18
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Dominoes posted:Does anyone else think the graphics blow? The other RPGs I've been playing, Witcher 2 and Deus Ex HR look much better. This reminds me of Mass Effect 1 graphics. Yeah I think the graphics are outdated. In particular, the art direction is a too retro and low contrast, and it never manages to 'pop' particularly well. On the other hand, the facial animations are far beyond those other games, DXHR especially. There's a lot of facial emoting the characters in AP do that you have to base your split-second responses to.
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Dominoes posted:Does anyone else think the graphics blow? The other RPGs I've been playing, Witcher 2 and Deus Ex HR look much better. This reminds me of Mass Effect 1 graphics. A game built on the same engine as Mass Effect looks like Mass Effect? And that looks worse than one of the most graphically demanding/one of the most stylized games available? I agree that AP is average looking at best but what do you expect by comparing a game that came out early last year with The Witcher 2?
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It looks great maxed out, not as sharp and clean as the Witcher 2 but it's definitely no slouch. I think the most egregarious lack of graphical polish is in the enemies themselves who are strangely blocky but the main character and environments are really nice.
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Scorchy posted:Yeah I think the graphics are outdated. In particular, the art direction is a too retro and low contrast, and it never manages to 'pop' particularly well. The view form the Rome safehouse 'popped' remarkably well considering it's sort of an extraneous thing.
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X_Toad posted:I don't think it's so much the variables rather than using a newscast for a modern world game made sense, and obviously, they can't know everything since much of what we did was covered up. Yeah, I also liked how a lot of things don't play out how Thorton expects them to. I let Shaheed go and got somewhat chummy with him and his group and beat Halbech down in Moscow, so the result was that Russia's weapons companies went into overdrive and the Middle East got the poo poo terrorist-bombed out of it. Still have no idea why Marburg didn't end up as a boss fight at the end, though, but I think he liked me too much, even after I attacked him for killing Madison. Yancy on a minigun was hilariously easy after the chopper too, one c hainshot and three criticals later and he was down. I didn't even leave the cover I started in or do anything else. Especially funny since that gave me "Real Men Don't Hide" when I was trying to be stealthy the whole game. 
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Oct 4, 2011 02:10
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Is this game moddable?
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Dick Trauma posted:I bought everything. I always give myself a raise use the Cheatengine program. A top secret spy should have more resources.
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Sam. posted:Is this game moddable? You can change some game settings by editing the .ini files listed in the OP. Also, it might be possible to change/add some game textures using Texmod.
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RBA Starblade posted:Yeah, I also liked how a lot of things don't play out how Thorton expects them to. I let Shaheed go and got somewhat chummy with him and his group and beat Halbech down in Moscow, so the result was that Russia's weapons companies went into overdrive and the Middle East got the poo poo terrorist-bombed out of it. Still have no idea why Marburg didn't end up as a boss fight at the end, though, but I think he liked me too much, even after I attacked him for killing Madison. Yancy on a minigun was hilariously easy after the chopper too, one c hainshot and three criticals later and he was down. I didn't even leave the cover I started in or do anything else. Especially funny since that gave me "Real Men Don't Hide" when I was trying to be stealthy the whole game. About Marburg He can show up as a boss fight during the part where Parker is trying to purge the computers at AP. I'm not sure what all triggers it. Marburg not showing up for you might have something to do with you getting Yancy as the final boss.
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Torsade de Pointes posted:About Marburg He can show up as a boss fight during the part where Parker is trying to purge the computers at AP. I'm not sure what all triggers it. Marburg not showing up for you might have something to do with you getting Yancy as the final boss. Or simply the fact that you kill him off in the Rome hub so he doesn't cause trouble later?
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etalian posted:Or simply the fact that you kill him off in the Rome hub so he doesn't cause trouble later? I fought him there, but he retreated before I could finish him off. He said hi after I got myself captured on purpose to get back in, though. I threatened him and he offered me another chance to join VCI. BTW, what happens if you accept anyone's job offers? Does the game end or do you play them for fools or what? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Oct 4, 2011 |
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Oct 4, 2011 04:51
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RBA Starblade posted:I fought him there, but he retreated before I could finish him off. He said hi after I got myself captured on purpose to get back in, though. I threatened him and he offered me another chance to join VCI. You still have to go through the final level but by signing up you will have option to either join Leeland as his new lap dog or dick him over in a hilarious way.
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Hannibal Smith posted:Doing the latter leads to the best ending in the game by a good amount, if you ask me. The former is surprisingly kind of badass as well. I was never able to bring myself to join Halbech and not betray Leland until my last playthrough, but it felt like a very fitting way to end the game for my amoral freelancer Thorton. Especially when Mike reaches peak smugness after handing Leeland a remote mine
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Oct 4, 2011 05:04
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etalian posted:
Well I guess I know what I'm doing with my crazed gunman recruit run now.
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Some might call it cheap, since you don't get to be involved in the planning, but screw 'em, I say the moments where Mike suddenly goes "Oh, I totally planned for this event ahead of time (without the player's knowledge) and now I'm gonna do something badass" are awesome.
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devoir posted:So this seems to run counter to what I've been reading in this thread:
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Torsade de Pointes posted:About Marburg He can show up as a boss fight during the part where Parker is trying to purge the computers at AP. I'm not sure what all triggers it. Marburg not showing up for you might have something to do with you getting Yancy as the final boss.
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Dominoes posted:Does anyone else think the graphics blow? The other RPGs I've been playing, Witcher 2 and Deus Ex HR look much better. This reminds me of Mass Effect 1 graphics. It looks a little dated in terms of art direction and such, but I think the characters/faces/emotions etc look fantastic.
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