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I'd like to join the GISH club please! GT: Flerps Also, do messages get deleted after a certain amount of time? Some of mine are missing. 
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I'd appreciate a GISH or SAEG invitation as well. GT: Snowbir (region europe)
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Oct 15, 2011 17:51
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Sorry to the people's game invites I ignored. Addicted to rivals atm!
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Oct 15, 2011 18:07
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Could use an invite to any accepting clubes. GT: WeeBairns
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Oct 15, 2011 18:21
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Day Man posted:When I have raced the AI cleanly, they give me plenty of room. I've actually been incredibly impressed with how realistic it is sometimes. When I start pushing them around, though, they don't hesitate to start using me as a brake. This is definitely true, and I'm starting to wonder if this isn't cumulative/transfers to online (private) races? In my career, I always restart a race if I push my way into a place unfairly vs the AI, and I do my utmost to avoid hitting their cars unless it's a racing incident. I was playing with some friends last night in their private race lobby, we had professional AI and that poo poo was like Burnout - the AI cars would just sideswipe/hipcheck you as you went by, with no regard for it being a racing move or trying to get on the line. Turns out this guy drives his career quite aggressively and uses the AI to brake his car through turns etc. all the time. Then we switched to my lobby, and the professional AI on the same track was just fast, they weren't noticeably aggressive. I suppose it could have been our imagination/confirmation bias once we had come up with the theory, but two or three people noticed it when we first started out and thought I'd turned the difficulty down because the AI cars suddenly became much more reasonable. They were still plenty quick and capable, but they seemed to stop doing random belligerent swerves as you went by minding your own business.
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Oct 15, 2011 18:43
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I'm incredibly impressed with the whole game so far. The physics and especially graphics, but also sound is fantastic. It's beyond fantastic, really. I'm just gobsmacked. Some things confuse me though. Can you change the AI difficulty in any way? I've just been doing world tour for now, with break-lines and manual without clutch as the only help (not running wheel / pedals yet), but I can't find any way to change the AI skill level. Am I just lost in the new menues, somehow? Oh, and how do I get Clarkson to say semi-funny stuff about cars in autovista-mode? I just had the 458 in there, and Clarkson didn't really want to inform me about anything regarding that car. Will try to get some online-time later. I somehow never went online with Forza 3, so I'm pretty hyped about the online scene, as long as I don't get rammed too much ...
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Oct 15, 2011 18:51
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I can confirm that AI ramming being reactionary isn't true, since I race incredibly clean and I've had the AI mindlessly ram me a fair few times. It seems to be as the difficulty in the career increases more than anything, their aggressiveness gets toned up the more you win races. It's particularly bad on corners after long straights, such as the first corners of Catalunya and Indianapolis, the AI will just blindly ram you regardless of how clean and contact-free your driving is. I'm not too keen on how fake and goofy the AI mistakes look either, where they go screaming off the track on corners. It's a shame they couldn't get it looking as believable as the AI whoopsies in Shift or GT5. That's a minor complaint though I guess, it's just the senseless ramming that cheeses me off.
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Oct 15, 2011 18:56
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hreple posted:I'm incredibly impressed with the whole game so far. I asked the AI question earlier and was told that is "adapts" with you, so becomes better the more you win, that being said I still win ALMOST all of my races against the AI, just by less of a margin than I did in Forza 3. As for the Autovista, Clarkson only gives a little vignette for each car. You activate it by selecting the Top Gear logo usually located at the front bumper/hood of the car. All other details are covered by the other dude.
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Oct 15, 2011 18:56
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ElwoodCuse posted:Does it have the BDR 529 Illinois plate? GhostDog posted:As far as I can tell there's no way to add a plate
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Oct 15, 2011 18:58
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It's fairly obvious, but for anybody who's a complete novice, here are two money-making protips: 1) When you do rivals challenges and you beat your opponent, quit out and collect money. Don't continue driving. You only get money for beating that opponent. If you continue driving, you set a faster lap time, and earn a tougher rival, but with no monetary gain. 2) When you are beating your rival's ghost by A COUNTRY MILE then start sandbagging the lap. If you have a better time in you, save it for a harder rival. Remember, each one you beat is another 50k in the pocket.
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Oct 15, 2011 19:00
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Wait, Rivals gives out 50k a win? That's a relief, the career was turning into a grind so I'll check that out 
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Oct 15, 2011 19:05
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Bentai posted:You should be able to make a license plate vinyl pretty easily of that old IL license plate. Hell I can give it a crack after I get home from work late tonight if it hasn't already been done. It won't be dead on accurate, but it'll do the trick. The problem is you can't put it on the car in the place where a license plate would be. That area is just not workable
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Oct 15, 2011 19:08
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I think there are some bugs on Sedona Club Circuit (maybe on all versions of Sedona) that makes clean laps become dirty for no reason. The first bug is at the corner at the orange arrow. I have taken that corner 100% cleanly (none of my wheels even rode up onto the rumble strip, when I know for a fact most corners let you go "dirtier" than that and still get a clean rating) and yet my lap has still been marked dirty. I found you have to take that corner extremely wide (a terrible line) to stay clean. Later in the lap, at the pink arrow (a straight section of track!), I had kept a lap clean up to that point by taking the orange arrow corner stupidly wide, but then on that pink arrow straightaway my lap was marked dirty for no reason. I'm in the middle of the road, just cruising along, and from out of nowhere my lap timer gets the little "!" flashing next to it. No collisions, no rewinding (other than to inspect what the hell could possibly have been dirty once I saw the flashing "!"). I reproduced the clean-but-still-marked-dirty laps over and over while trying to figure out exactly what was going on and I just don't understand how it could be happening other than some weird bugs.
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Oct 15, 2011 19:12
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siig posted:I think there are some bugs on Sedona Club Circuit (maybe on all versions of Sedona) that makes clean laps become dirty for no reason. I get laps marked dirty for seemingly no reason at all, and I can't figure out why. I don't follow motorsport at all, but I've put hundreds of hours combined into FM2 and 3. I thought there might be something I'm missing. On a lot of tracks I'll be going on a straight, or into/ out of a turn, with no one around and see the ! Flashing. This also happens a lot when going past the start finish line, the lap will just become insta-dirty for no reason that I can tell. Regardless, this game is amazingly fun, I just got a Shelby Daytona Le Mans car as a level 30 reward and the thing is a blast. Sounds great, fast as hell and so much grip. When it lets go, its just so manageable, I was drifting around the Bernesse Alps like it was no bodies business. I don't know if LLJK is still full, but I put in a request. GT : Molgandhi.
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Oct 15, 2011 19:23
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Is it possible to buy the VIP car pack separate if you didn't get the LCE?
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Oct 15, 2011 19:26
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Bentai posted:You should be able to make a license plate vinyl pretty easily of that old IL license plate. Hell I can give it a crack after I get home from work late tonight if it hasn't already been done. It won't be dead on accurate, but it'll do the trick. Yeah the plate in the movie was really plain. The vinyl should be super easy. 
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Oct 15, 2011 19:28
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MUFFlNS posted:I can confirm that AI ramming being reactionary isn't true, since I race incredibly clean and I've had the AI mindlessly ram me a fair few times. It seems to be as the difficulty in the career increases more than anything, their aggressiveness gets toned up the more you win races. It's particularly bad on corners after long straights, such as the first corners of Catalunya and Indianapolis, the AI will just blindly ram you regardless of how clean and contact-free your driving is. What level are you at? I'm only level 34 and have lost one race in world tour so far, but have not had any issues with the AI in my career mode whatsoever unless I'm doing something unpredictable.
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Oct 15, 2011 19:34
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Just got the game and holy poo poo is it purty for a console game! I didn't see anyway to join a club ingame, so could someone please add me to LLJK or if that's full GISH ? GT: Hamare
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Oct 15, 2011 19:38
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WienerDog posted:I get laps marked dirty for seemingly no reason at all, and I can't figure out why. I don't follow motorsport at all, but I've put hundreds of hours combined into FM2 and 3. I thought there might be something I'm missing. On a lot of tracks I'll be going on a straight, or into/ out of a turn, with no one around and see the ! Flashing. This also happens a lot when going past the start finish line, the lap will just become insta-dirty for no reason that I can tell. Something I just learned recently is, drafting causes a dirty lap. I'm definitely not a motorsports expert, but I guess it's because it's considered aggressive driving?
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Oct 15, 2011 19:41
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Dirty Laps have nothing to do with aggressive driving. Dirty laps indicate laps in which you gained some unfair advantage to improve your lap time. Here are some of the causes of dirty laps: - Contact, whether with walls or cars - Cutting courses. If your center of the car is over the edge of the course, you get invalidated. Some courses are different whether they include the rumble strips or not in this calculation - Draft. You get invalidated laps for being roughly ~1 second behind a car or in front of a car if your speed is 100mph or above. Each of these can be exploited for an unfair advantage for improving lap times, whether increasing speed by bumpdrafting, drafting, or improving lap times by cutting the course. Avoid these and you get a clean lap for the leaderboard. L_Harrison fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Oct 15, 2011 |
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Oct 15, 2011 19:47
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GreatGreen posted:Is it possible to buy the VIP car pack separate if you didn't get the LCE? Not right now, but eventually, yes.
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Oct 15, 2011 19:56
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Alright guys here's the deal, I'm going to shoot for some actual dice racing tonight at 7 pm est. I'm sure it's a little soon for tuned cars in every class so we'll be driving showroom cars. gt is bentron, let's get crazy tonight!
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Oct 15, 2011 19:59
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So I am loving the hell out of this game, Just like I did forza 3. I seem to fall in love with heavy rear-wheel drive cars that I throw out on every corner for some reason. I never really run into anything, I just fear it is hurting my lap times. Does anyone have tips on how to drive a rear-wheel properly? On a slightly different note, Is there a guide somewhere to what tuning actually effects? I know the simple ones like tire pressure/aerodynamics. But am completely lost when it comes to softening/Stiffening roll cages and such. Maybe if I make a tuning file I can stop throwing it out on every corner.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:00
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Ether Frenzy posted:Fanatec's recommended Forza 4 settings are these:  . Feels good getting rid of that buyer's remorse that threatened to ruin my weekend. If anyone's interested, I'm now using following settings:SEN: 720 FF: 70 Sho: 10 ABS: 99 Dri: 3 Lin: 0 Dea: 0 Spr: 0 Dpr: 0 After getting over yesterday's disappointment and getting more used to the way Forza does things I managed to regain my speed and actually got a new PB! Now sittin' on rank 840 with a Zonda time of 1:41.106 
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Oct 15, 2011 20:01
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L_Harrison posted:
1) Contact and cutting corners I had figured, but holy gently caress I never would have guessed drafting makes laps dirty. The game rates your drafts! It's like, "4/4 Good Job drafting, man! ...But that's illegal." 2) How can you avoid drafting then? If a car is ~one second faster then yours, what's a guy to do? if I slow, the gap will increase so I won't get penalized, but his car is faster then mine. If I let up he's gunna dust me, and if I could be faster then him, well, there wouldn't be this issue.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:09
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 Doing a career race, testing out an M3 with manual gears, when I overtake an R34 GT-R CPU car down the straight. As I'm slowing, the GT-R comes flying past, mad that I passed him or something, and proceeds to smash right into the car in front. Also, glowing front brake discs. I love this game.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:10
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Has this game been out long enough for anybody to do a good solid "GT5 vs F4" review yet?
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Oct 15, 2011 20:11
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Worst race so far is the Class B race in Sebring Club course. AI in Mustangs and Camaros are impossible to pass without running them off the course, and I get brake checked and rammed non stop. I built 3 different cars to try and beat it cleanly to no avail.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:14
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Ether Frenzy posted:What level are you at? I'm only level 34 and have lost one race in world tour so far, but have not had any issues with the AI in my career mode whatsoever unless I'm doing something unpredictable. I'm not as high level as you, I'm somewhere in the 20s (forget what number exactly). GreatGreen posted:Has this game been out long enough for anybody to do a good solid "GT5 vs F4" review yet? You'll never see a good comparison because people will always have bias towards one game or the other. The best you can do is play both and decide for yourself.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:17
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WienerDog posted:2) How can you avoid drafting then? If a car is ~one second faster then yours, what's a guy to do? if I slow, the gap will increase so I won't get penalized, but his car is faster then mine. If I let up he's gunna dust me, and if I could be faster then him, well, there wouldn't be this issue. SirViver fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Oct 15, 2011 |
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Oct 15, 2011 20:17
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Can I get into SAEG? GT is Gunrun247.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:18
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L_Harrison posted:Dirty Laps have nothing to do with aggressive driving. Dirty laps indicate laps in which you gained some unfair advantage to improve your lap time. Here are some of the causes of dirty laps: Haven't encountered it myself, but I spend a lot of time tuning to make sure my suspension never fully compresses so that may be why.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:23
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SirViver posted:Does it actually matter? As far as I understand the dirty indicator only affects you if you want to hotlap for the leaderboards or rivals mode, and in neither should you have AI cars around (that race you). If drafting didn't invalidate the lap you could gain an unfair advantage - for laptime comparison - by having someone else (or coaxing the AI into) letting you draft them on straights that would offset an otherwise crippling downforce or power penalty for example. That makes sense, if people want to run the leaderboard, they shouldn't have the advantage of drafting to help. I guess it just pisses me off because it makes me think I'm doing something wrong. SirViver posted:That said, I don't have the full version yet, do you actually get bonus points for "clean" laps? No. Not in world tour, anyway.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:34
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Would love a club invite or some new friends: Swervebot 3000
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Oct 15, 2011 20:38
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pvax posted:Awesome I went and grabbed the build and I still couldn't beat you, I had you going into turn 4 a couple times but either slipped off course or just got on the brakes a little too hard. I think the closest was a couple tenths....don't worry, I am practicing, I'll be back! EDIT: Fair warning, I hope to be online tonight and given my day spent BBQ-ing some pulled pork and watching football, I'm likely to be "impared" when I'm online. That means three things.....I'll accept your invite, I will talk (about my java homework) on my mike, and I'll probably crash somebody because 42 year old people aren't good at video games. wernox fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Oct 15, 2011 |
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Oct 15, 2011 20:40
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ElwoodCuse posted:Yeah the plate in the movie was really plain. The vinyl should be super easy. The vinyl itself is easy, but a lot of the older cars have big chrome bumpers that you can't put stickers on, or the flat plate holding area just isn't modeled, so you'd have some weird plate that conforms to the bumper.
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Oct 15, 2011 20:55
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OK, so I'm just starting the Masters series of World Tour, and I goto the event list to see how things are coming along there, and certain races you do in world tour don't transfer over to the event list. We've established the reason for this is that in world tour, it will offer you an event on a specific track, but on the Event list, that event never takes place on that track. Is there any way to avoid doing races in world tour that aren't on the event list? You can understand what a pain in the rear end it would be if say, you do four races of the North America Tour A in the World Tour, then you go to the event list, and you have do that entire series again, on four different tracks. There's SO MANY races in the event list, why would they present you options in world tour that aren't on the event list?
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Oct 15, 2011 21:04
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Wow, I've now for the first time actually fired up F3 since I got the CSR and the fact that Forza by default has a tiny steering deadzone configured - even for wheels - gives me hope that that's exactly the issue I'm experiencing in the F4 demo currently. Removing that and taking my 627 hp/ton Datsun 510 around a few laps on the ring has been an absolute blast. Cars in general seem to feel much more alive and a lot of the cars tuned for general oversteer necessary for the controller are extremely twitchy now. Guess I'll get a few more hours out of F3 after all. Speaking of which, are there any non-DLC cars to get for the F4 profile import? I'm already lvl 50 so that base is covered. Just wondering if there's anything I can invest my leftover 3.5 million in.
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Oct 15, 2011 21:06
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Can I get an invite to SAEG please -GT : JoyChi Think I got missed before
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I added a request, it might have been lost in the Live tubes. GT: xultxforcex
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